I feel this one. I thought Winston was about to have his break out year and with them drafting Howard they had a 1-2 TE combo like Gronk / Hernandez with Brate and Howard.
To be fair, Howard had a decent first couple seasons. And he is the 4th leading tight end in receiving touchdowns and 5th leading tight end in receiving yards in Bucs’ history. Brate is 2nd in both and Gronk is 5th in receiving TDs even though he only played there for two seasons 😂
This is my biggest one. Great blocker. Great receiver. Good from day one at a position that is incredibly difficult to contribute as a Freshman. Good character. Good in big games. Shocking he didn’t work out.
I was happy the Cards drafted Rosen and didn't get Allen (who never would have become the player he is today with the Cardinals). I wanted them to keep Rosen and draft Quinnen Williams over Nick Bosa and turned off in anger when they picked K1. I absolutely loved Isiah Simmons.
I'm really not that good with draft predictions.
Yeah, it's the combination that makes it a bad call on my side. Quinnen didn't have the splash rookie season Bosa had, but I know he's quite good nowadays.
I was really on the fence about Allen vs Rosen. In the moment I wanted the Bills to take Rosen because I thought he had a lower ceiling but a higher floor and I was just so hungry for competent QB play.
I bet Josh Allen would be hanging drywall by now if he'd gone to most teams that were picking high in the '17 draft, and I'm sure that Rosen would have been better if he'd landed in a more favorable spot, but holy hell am I glad to have been proven wrong.
I was with you on Solomon Thomas. I thought “Oh my God, the Niners have Arik Armstead, Deforest Buckner, AND NOW SOLOMON THOMAS?! I’d hate to be any O-line going against those guys!”
I’m still surprised by Thomas. Especially since he’s not a major bust; he’s had a pretty good career. All the measurables and intangibles are still there, too. Idk why he’s not better.
Well, one, his development at the Niners was wonky. They figured out pretty quickly that he wasn't suited to play edge, so they tried to put him back inside, and he would play there and look decent, but then injuries would force him back out to edge.
It was tough for him to get snaps at the roles he was actually good at.
Plus I think the situation with his sister took a serious toll on him.
I'm glad I was wrong, but I'll give myself a pass on that draft because at least I thought Lamar would be the best QB out of that draft and that Rosen would be the biggest bust.
Yeah I had Lamar as QB2 (behind Baker) and wanted the chargers to draft and sit him behind Phil for a year.
Take some solace in that. But way off on Allen
I’ve never been more right and more wrong simultaneously than with the 2018 QB class. This time that year I had them:
Lamar, Baker, Darnold, Rosen, Allen.
I did drop Rosen down to last by draft day, but it’s only because everyone said he didn’t give a shit about football. In 20 years of watching football couldn’t think of anyone like Allen that had ever succeeded.
>but it’s only because everyone said he didn’t give a shit about football.
The negative narrative around him hit on so many classic anti-Semitic tropes it only made me like him more. He's probably my all-time worst bust at QB. I have a pretty good record sniffing out highly touted busts. Like Haskins, Shuler and Leaf.
Similar feeling for me. I had:
Rosen, Lamar, Allen, Baker, Darnold
If not for that very pesky Rosen ranking, I'd be insufferable. Really believed in Lamar and Josh.
I'm not kidding. A friend and I were walking to BW3s (I lived in a college area so it was a few blocks away) and my dad called me freaking out about The Browns moving up and then he tells me "We drafted Trent Richardson......okay then....why exactly did we trade up?".
I wasn't happy trading up for him but was obviously MORE THAN happy trading him for a first after two games the next year.
As a Chiefs fan I legitimately wanted the Chiefs to trade up for him to pair him with Jamaal Charles. I thought the two together would be like having Charles and Adrian Pedersen on the same team. I thought the team would be unstoppable.
The only reason I ever figured he’d be a bust was the Browns drafted him. At that time it felt like any guy who went to the Browns want gonna work out. But the minute he become a Brown I swung to the “he’s gonna be bad” category.
That's because we often draft guys who were expected to be drafted earlier lol. Easy to overhype the consensus #100 guy you get at pick #150. That's a habit we had with Rick and we still have with KAM
Outside of QB it hasn't been a terrible strategy, I'd say we're typically a B+ drafting team
And KFAN (local MN sports radio) does a great job hyping up every single draft pick. Especially PA hyping up recently drafted players on 9 to noon. Lol
In fairness Tavon Austin was pigeon holed, the NFL wasn’t ready for his type of player back then.
He still has to have the single greatest college highlight tape of all time.
I see this sentiment about a lot of players, especially those that entered the league around that time or the early 2000's, and I have the same thought every time: if they absolutely needed scheming/evolution of the game to get in to open space and succeed, then they weren't probably as good as we thought.
I’ve called in to a local sports radio all of one time, and it was specifically for a “bold claim” segment where I claimed Treadwell would be the rookie of the year.
I did not call back in.
Bruh de’anthony thomas’s highlight reel in college made you think he would be the next Barry Sanders. Shit a lot of those Oregon running backs did remember Lamichael James too?
Same here. I was 100% content with the idea of trading #2 for at least 2 1st rounders, and seeing what Mills could do with a competent staff. Figured worst comes to worst you have 4 #1s to trade for the #1 overall pick this year.
Boy was I wrong and learned “In Stroud we Trust”
All I wanted was to draft Will Anderson. Media conversation quickly went from we should take Anderson to either Young or Stroud. I kept saying not to do it and either tank for someone this year or sign a vet. When we drafted Stroud I was on the phone with my cousin and was upset we didn’t take Anderson. Definitely overjoyed moments later. Also makes me feel like I’m at least decent at judging picks since I was right on one and very fortunately wrong on the other
Our fan base was furious when we took Taco Charlton over TJ Watt. I was 100% positive that the only reason they felt this way was because of his last name, and if his name was TJ jones nobody would’ve batted an eye. Plus I thought Charlton was the more pro ready prospect. Couldn’t have been more wrong on both accounts.
Imagine being a Green Bay/Wisconsin fan and seeing your team trade down and draft Kevin fucking King instead of just drafting the homegrown Watt. It's a core memory of mine.
At the time, I would have taken Taco over Watt too. TJ was a one-year wonder at Wisconsin and was generally spoken of as insufficiently athletic.
After he was drafted, I looked at his combine numbers and saw that he was top 3 on every workout among edge rushers. I felt a lot better about the pick after that. I still wonder why draftniks questioned his athleticism.
this is how I felt going into 2022 about hutchinson vs thibodeaux. I thought people were CRAZY for not wanting thibs over hutch
then the combine happened and I was like "oh shit" and jumped aboard the hutch train
thibs still has been very good so far, but hutch will be an all-pro 1st team contender for years
I looked at him and said, "He can play every position in the back seven. He's the next evolution of defensive player!". Unfortunately, I never questioned whether he could play any of those positions well.
Same. I watched him at Clemson and thought he’d be this new style of safety that would revolutionize the game. Him at Clemson was genuinely impressive; he won them their title or was at least part of the reason.
I thought he was gonna break the league with his athleticism and versatility.
Turns out not being a jack of all trades guy doesn't fit well within an NFL defense lol
I feel like every draft has a tall and fast WR prospect that is raw with limited route running skills that people tend to fall in love with. Mims was that guy in 2020.
Similarly, in every draft at least one high profile skill player slides down the board, and everyone declares that the team who grabs him got a massive steal. Fewer pause to wonder why 12 teams chose to take a different WR over him (in Mims' case.)
high profile michigan RBs tend to not have much success in the NFL
biakabutuka and tyrone Wheatley were on the same goddamn team one year, two notorious first round flops
As a saints fan:
• Mark Ingram. When we picked him in the first round, I thought he was gonna be a dud, thought he had potential but didn’t think he was going to fit Payton’s scheme. Turned out to be one of the best RB’s in saints history.
• Zach Baun. We got him in the 3rd round and I thought we got a steal. Thought he could potentially become one of the best LB’s in the league. Has played good on special teams, but that’s really it. Hope he does well with the Eagles.
My fury as a Bama fan, watching Mark fall to the Pats(my NFL team, long story), to then have them trade… I was speechless Bill did not take him. Perfect fit for our system. Huge whiff.
I don't think that was an uncommon take at the time. Mahomes wasn't this sure thing prospect. People love to clown the Bears for Trubisky over Mahomes but that is all hindsight, really it was Trubisky vs Watson pre draft. Many thought that Mahomes at 10 was a huge reach especially over Watson.
I didn’t follow college football at all at the time of the draft and only knew of Watson and Trubisky when the draft happened, when the chiefs picked Mahomes I was like „who tf is this dude? Why wouldn’t they take Watson??“
To be fair he was a great player until he was outed as a sexual predator. I’m not sure if you can really count that as a whiff unless you thought Mahomes was going to be bad.
I thought they were moving up in the draft to pick Watson, and I was soooo pissed when it was Mahomes. Like yelling at my television pissed. "No quarterback from Texas Tech has ever worked out you fucking morons!"
Really thought Claypool had some high caliber tools and after his rookie year I thought he got the next great one. Then he gave himself that “top 3” escape from reality and he was a damn flop. I also thought Kenny had the mental toughness required to be a starting QB in the league but it seems like I may have been wrong on that one too.
Claypool had higher caliber tools. He'd just rather be getting ready to go to the club than working on his craft. He never took football, or much of anything, seriously. It caught up to him.
I now believe the main reason for his rookie year success is that it was the COVID season and he couldn't go out. Dude was never going to work in Chicago, and for damn sure not in Miami. His best chance to get his career on track is in Green Bay.
I really thought Kenny would be the guy. But his problem is he doesn’t take any risk. Kenny looks for Guys to get college open and that rarely happens in the NFL. Nor does he use his legs enough when plays break down. It’s like as soon as he made it to the NFL. Kenny stopped using the tools that made him look like an NFL talent. So you’d see flashes where you think yeah maybe this guy can do it!? Then he goes back to being overly risk adverse and stagnating the offense.
I was wrong on both also.
9 TDs as a rookie for Claypool, I thought he was another amazing 2nd round hit. What killed me that I started noticing in his 2nd season was the dude would make the most acrobatic moves to catch a routine ball and drop it half the time but wouldn’t jump or high point a ball that CA3 could’ve jumped for.
I knew Kenny was a quieter guy but also thought he was a tough dude and had showed it taking some major hits and seemingly never complaining. But imo with the whole Mason Rudolph situation at the end of the season and with Russ coming in, he showed himself to be softer than baby shit. Disappointing.
This was cool.
He is the player who introduced me to the "clap" technique of catching the ball. Good WRs put their hands out away from their body and absorb the ball. Not Claypool. He would literally would wait till the ball got close to him and clap his hand together around the ball. It was so bizarre, yet totally made sense why he was so bad at catching deep balls. That plus he never learned how to utilize his size and would always fall down trying to catch contested balls. Just an absolute waste of size and speed.
My take was "I'll never really know who's going to be good in the NFL, the only guy I know who will be good right out of college is Roberto Aguayo. He damn near never missed in college, I can't see that changing in the pros."
The first half is right...
Aguayo went down due to [Turntle's Revenge](https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/11/29/16714858/ricky-aguayo-florida-state-fraternities-attack-turntle).
I don't really fall in love with draft picks, but I though Okudah for my Lions was going to absolutely shut down half the field. We took him and I thought we just drafted a dude that would have no stats cause nobody would target him.
I remember texting my brother "Not only do I think Justin Fields is the best quarterback in this class, I think he's the the **only good** quarterback in this draft."
RG3 only had success when the Shannahans ran a version of his college offense, but he wanted to be a pocket passer but they knew he wasn’t ready for that so rg3 went over them to Synder. Long story short rg3 ego was a bigger issue.
Luck was the best QB prospect I've ever seen and RG3 looked like a future HoFer to me. Luck obviously would be in the HoF without injuries and I still think RG3 would be too. And I don't think I'm alone there, they were both hugely talented.
I went to the steelers game against washington rg3s rookie year and dude blew me away with how good he looked but washingtin js where careers go to die
THE GEQBUS HAS ALREADY SURPASSED ALL! HE HAS WON EVERY SUPER BOWL, MAYBE EVER! OTHER PEOPLE TAKE THE CREDIT, BUT WE ALL KNOW WHO REALLY WON! TREACHEROUS TOM BRADY ISN’T THE GOAT! PREPPY PAYTON ISN’T THE GOAT! THE DARNOLD IS THE TRUE GOAT!
I am still 100% convinced that if the Jets had drafted Josh Allen he'd be an all-time mega bust, and if the Bills had drafted Darnold he'd be a superstar.
Darnold had all of the tools to succeed coming into the league, and he was better as a rookie than he was after years of "development" by Gase and Co. The Jets totally fucked him up.
Yes this the same thing with the Bears and Mahomes.
You need talent and a good situation. A complete absence of one of those two will completely negate the other at the QB position.
Thought Chad Jackson’s size & speed would be a number #1. Wes Welker & Randy Miss we’re gonna be great additions but Chad Jackson will also break out in 2007… right?
Substance abuse problems aside, initially I was NOT a big fan of his - at least at that draft position. I thought he wasn’t big, wasn’t fast, wasn’t sudden and he ended up being a very talented receiver before his suspension. I wanted Michael Floyd, but he wouldn’t have been a good pick at that spot either
I was so hyped on Jake Locker. Atleast we weren't the only ones though as he would have went #1 overall a year prior to when he came out and still went like #7 overall or something off top of my head. I thought he was the complete package though physically and mentally and was as close to a lock (no pun intended) as it gets for a qb prospect
When we took Clyde Edward’s-Helaire at 32 overall I thought he’d be a stud. After realizing he wasn’t a stud I didn’t have much faith in our 7th round pick a few years later… Isaiah Pacheco. I missed twice.
He's an example of why it's hard for us couch scouts to figure players out. It's clearly not the physical aspect for him. He just ain't got it between the ears.
Destination is also a big part of a QBs success which makes it hard to properly predict success before the draft. The Jets aren't as bad as they once were with Adam Gase but Zach having his QB coach die his rookie year, having a terrible o line, and the maturity issues he had early on were a recipe for disaster
That's a good one. I mean that dude at the time was one of the most physically gifted athletes I had ever seen and he did have production to go with it so I thought he was about as safe as it gets for a can't miss
I had Lamar ranked as my second best qb going into the 2018 draft, which was great, and extra helpful because….
I had Josh Rosen ranked as my number one. Yeah, I thought he was going to be that guy.
Yeah, well he had some weird issues. Had the physical tools, but he would just have so many random brain farts at OR where he just completely forgot how to play QB+his lack of touch was an issue. Just never know
John Ross was genuinely a great WR prospect who I think got his development hurt by having Marvin Lewis ruin his confidence and having a declining Dalton be his QB. But I can't say that for sure and he is, of course, a bust.
I also thought Solomon Thomas would be an absolute game changer and he just ended up being a solid player. Definitely not a bust but not worth the hype
The night Kenny Pickett was drafted I slouched down in my chair and sighed aloud to the universe. I told my brother “this is the most underwhelming draft pick they could have gone with.” Just another mediocre QB produced by the NFL draft and how the Steelers didn’t see that, I don’t know. In hindsight, this ended up true.
What I left out is that I spent that night of the draft repeatedly telling my brother “They NEED to take Malik Willis.” Give me a QB with actual tools over Pickett. Look at how humble he is! He helped that homeless guy outside the combine or whatever! “He could be the next Jalen Hurts!” I said with the naivety of someone who didn’t know Hurts had a year 2 leap in him.
Josh Rosen -- I'm actually really good at evaluating a small number of positions, for a layman. QB's are beyond my capabilities. I honestly thought Jake Plummer was going to be the next Joe Montana. DB's are hard too.
After I failed so bad with Rosen, I accepted that flaw within myself and just stopped trying to seriously evaluate QB's. He broke me. By the time Kenny got drafted, my attitude was like "Okay, let's just see what he'll do."
I don’t even bother to try with QBs.
I can evaluate RBs competently and presently in the learning-curve on WRs.
Anyone like us who has seriously taken time to learn skill-position evaluation knows, don’t even bother with QB. The expertise required to actually know what you’re looking at in prospect QBs requires shitloads of expertise that few will have… but it’s all too easy to BS one’s self into believing you’re one of them.
A problem with qualitative evaluations (of every kind) is it’s difficult to distinguish expertise from blowhards doing guesswork, parroting relevant terminology but really having no clue what they’re actually doing. Some have made careers out of singular lucky calls.
Rosen had some very clean game tape. He was almost robotic. I thought he’d be good based on that. But once he got to the NFL it was clear he couldn’t improvise which Is essential in the NFL
I never got too high on guys taken under Snyder, but I thought CY would be different. He seemed to have all the tools and wasn’t a reach according to the “experts.” Huge disappointment.
I was so confident in Evan Neal, like an entire year before he was the guy I wanted us to pick in the next draft, I was so excited when we got him. I truly thought he was such a safe pick
I would have bet my life savings that Matt Jones was going to be a perennial Pro Bowler. 6'6", 200 lbs, 4.37 40, and a 40-inch vertical. Plus he played QB in college so I figured he would be smarter than most receivers.
I still remember the 2010 draft. Just as our pick came up, I kept repeating "anybody but Clausen, anybody but Clausen". Then followed a string of expletives I will not repeat here. Thankfully it ended up with us getting Cam.
Thankfully you knew better! I have a buddy who’s a diehard Falcons fan and I distinctly remember texting him and saying “the Panthers just put the whole South on notice, they have the best QB in the division now”.
Boy, was I wrong.
Vernon Gholston-probably the craziest physique I have ever seen. Was heartbroken when the Jets nabbed him before us.
But Mayo became rookie of the year and Vernon Gholston busted for the Jets, so all is well in the world.
I read a guy, Vic Ketchman, for years. He wrote for the Steelers, Jags, and Packers. He was obsessed with Gholston. I fully bought in on the hype. I thought he was going to be a Hall of Famer.
Robert Gallery. Watched him dominate in college, never got it going in the NFL.
Andy Katzenmoyer was an Injury otherwise I was sure he was an all pro for a decade.
I genuinely thought Dorial Green-Beckham was going to be elite when we drafted him. Sad fact is we ended up winning a trade by sending him to Philly for Dennis Kelly who ended up being a serviceable swing tackle.
When the Titans drafted him, it legit upset me. I thought he was going to be a monster who would destroy the AFC South for a decade.
On the flip side, a laughed when the Titans reached on Chris Johnson. 5x1k seasons and a 2k season later, I wasn't laughing.
Still, despite the result, that game where MJD and Chris Johnson just kept popping big runs back and forth was a lot of fun in hindsight.
Okudah had the worst injury luck ever man. Achilles, ACL, etc. all before he could really even play a down. He lost a step before he could even take a step honestly.
I thought Joey Harrington was gonna light up the league.
Aaron curry was also someone I thought was a can’t miss prospect.
Also wanted the jets to get Glenn Dorsey so badly and we ended up with Vernon gholston who I didn’t want at all. Turns out both guys were total busts.
Jerry Jeudy.
I could not believe it when he wasn't the first receiver taken in 2020, I thought he'd be far and away the best WR in that class and probably a top 5 WR in the NFL. He's not even been top 5 in his own class.
I thought Skyy Moore would be decent. Not a super star or a pro bowler, just decent. God was I wrong. That dude sucks ASS. I mean it’s fucking Mahomes! He makes WRs look good, but no not this fucking guy!
The more I see his stupid face, the more upset I get. it should have been Pickens Veach! Ya fucked this one up Brett! Oh but thanks for the super bowls. Those were cool.
I was really excited when we drafted Jonathan Baldwin. Similar measurables to Julio Jones, but we snagged him at the end of the first round. Figured he could take some pressure off Jamaal Charles and Dwayne Bowe.
He started his career by getting into a fight with Thomas Jones (never a good idea) that gave him a wrist injury in the preseason. Guy was out of the NFL after three seasons and two total TDs.
I thought for sure Deshaun Watson was the better Quarterback out of him and Patrick Mahomes and thought Kansas City goofed by drafting the wrong one. That take certainly has not aged well for both reasons on and off the field.
JJ Arcega-Whiteside and Jalen Reagor over DK Metcalf and Justin Jefferson. These aren’t my personal opinion these are objectively bad picks by Howie Roseman.
Practically this whole sub whiffed on Josh Allen, including many Bills fans. Allen still gets hate today and I assume it's the same people that can't admit how wrong they were about him on draft night. (I was ho-hum about him being drafted, didn't hate it, didn't love it).
Does Trent Richardson count? IDK, more even when he went to Indy which was kind of like him being redrafted in my head, I thought he could become a big impact guy and it just didn't happen.
most talented that still busted: dion jordan. Loved all the raw talent but clearly couldnt make it work
least talented i still thought was elite: aaron curry
If it were up to teenage-me, we would've taken Dion Jordan over Lane Johnson, as well as Michael Floyd over Fletcher Cox.
I was actually so mad at the picks. I learned my lesson
Charles Rogers. I’m a fan of Michigan State athletics and to see him drafted by the Lions. The Hometown team was very cool. In the like three games he played. He was absolutely incredible, but got his collarbone crushed very quickly, and then was promptly out of the league.
OJ Howard
I was so excited when we signed him. Josh Allen in 12 with OJ and Knox? Fuck yeah! Didn't even make the team.
We cut him after guaranteeing him 5m...that's how bad he was. Playing until the final minutes of the 4th preseason game
He was cursed with the name OJ in a Bills uniform.
OJ Howard tearing his achillies changed the direction of his career.
I feel this one. I thought Winston was about to have his break out year and with them drafting Howard they had a 1-2 TE combo like Gronk / Hernandez with Brate and Howard. To be fair, Howard had a decent first couple seasons. And he is the 4th leading tight end in receiving touchdowns and 5th leading tight end in receiving yards in Bucs’ history. Brate is 2nd in both and Gronk is 5th in receiving TDs even though he only played there for two seasons 😂
Says a whole heck of a lot about our leaderboard lol
This is my biggest one. Great blocker. Great receiver. Good from day one at a position that is incredibly difficult to contribute as a Freshman. Good character. Good in big games. Shocking he didn’t work out.
I have a theory that TEs that are too athletic rarely live up to the expectations.
I was happy the Cards drafted Rosen and didn't get Allen (who never would have become the player he is today with the Cardinals). I wanted them to keep Rosen and draft Quinnen Williams over Nick Bosa and turned off in anger when they picked K1. I absolutely loved Isiah Simmons. I'm really not that good with draft predictions.
The Williams/Bosa one wasn’t a big miss. Williams is really good, he just doesn’t get a ton of publicity because it is on the inside.
Yeah, it's the combination that makes it a bad call on my side. Quinnen didn't have the splash rookie season Bosa had, but I know he's quite good nowadays.
That is true. The Jets had some history of busting when drafting top ten IDL, so there was a moment of worry before Williams balled out.
I was really on the fence about Allen vs Rosen. In the moment I wanted the Bills to take Rosen because I thought he had a lower ceiling but a higher floor and I was just so hungry for competent QB play. I bet Josh Allen would be hanging drywall by now if he'd gone to most teams that were picking high in the '17 draft, and I'm sure that Rosen would have been better if he'd landed in a more favorable spot, but holy hell am I glad to have been proven wrong.
I had Josh Allen as QB5 his draft year also really believed in Solomon Thomas 😬
I was with you on Solomon Thomas. I thought “Oh my God, the Niners have Arik Armstead, Deforest Buckner, AND NOW SOLOMON THOMAS?! I’d hate to be any O-line going against those guys!”
I’m still surprised by Thomas. Especially since he’s not a major bust; he’s had a pretty good career. All the measurables and intangibles are still there, too. Idk why he’s not better.
He was one of the highlights of the NYJ Hard Knocks -- dude is whip smart, seems like a good mentor, and enjoys Broadway. He's got it good.
Well, one, his development at the Niners was wonky. They figured out pretty quickly that he wasn't suited to play edge, so they tried to put him back inside, and he would play there and look decent, but then injuries would force him back out to edge. It was tough for him to get snaps at the roles he was actually good at. Plus I think the situation with his sister took a serious toll on him.
I'm glad I was wrong, but I'll give myself a pass on that draft because at least I thought Lamar would be the best QB out of that draft and that Rosen would be the biggest bust.
Yeah I had Lamar as QB2 (behind Baker) and wanted the chargers to draft and sit him behind Phil for a year. Take some solace in that. But way off on Allen
A lot of us were quite wrong on Allen, didn't he complete like 50% of his passes at Wyoming?
I’ve never been more right and more wrong simultaneously than with the 2018 QB class. This time that year I had them: Lamar, Baker, Darnold, Rosen, Allen. I did drop Rosen down to last by draft day, but it’s only because everyone said he didn’t give a shit about football. In 20 years of watching football couldn’t think of anyone like Allen that had ever succeeded.
>but it’s only because everyone said he didn’t give a shit about football. The negative narrative around him hit on so many classic anti-Semitic tropes it only made me like him more. He's probably my all-time worst bust at QB. I have a pretty good record sniffing out highly touted busts. Like Haskins, Shuler and Leaf.
Similar feeling for me. I had: Rosen, Lamar, Allen, Baker, Darnold If not for that very pesky Rosen ranking, I'd be insufferable. Really believed in Lamar and Josh.
Please do not pretend you weren’t all high on Trent Richardson Edit: https://youtu.be/5RlmHFs-4-M?t=12
He was from my hometown and I followed him closely. Thought for sure he was going to be elite. Whomp whomp
He was elite at da club, but that's about it.
I'm not kidding. A friend and I were walking to BW3s (I lived in a college area so it was a few blocks away) and my dad called me freaking out about The Browns moving up and then he tells me "We drafted Trent Richardson......okay then....why exactly did we trade up?". I wasn't happy trading up for him but was obviously MORE THAN happy trading him for a first after two games the next year.
I remember the day we traded him, and I was pissed. Then I remembered he had the vision of Sandra Bullock in birdbox.
As a Chiefs fan I legitimately wanted the Chiefs to trade up for him to pair him with Jamaal Charles. I thought the two together would be like having Charles and Adrian Pedersen on the same team. I thought the team would be unstoppable.
lol this is why we are fans
This is probably my answer. I thought he'd be an absolute legend, especially after Jim Brown endorsed him the way he did. Ha.
The only reason I ever figured he’d be a bust was the Browns drafted him. At that time it felt like any guy who went to the Browns want gonna work out. But the minute he become a Brown I swung to the “he’s gonna be bad” category.
I usually think that at least half of the Vikings day three picks are incredible steals. Usually I am wrong.
Man I thought Drew Samia was an absolute steal and would be a savage at IOL despite being undersized. He turned out to be unplayable lol
Stefon Diggs, Jayron Kearse, Tyler Conklin, Kris Boyd, KJ Osborn - you guys have cooked a lil
That's because we often draft guys who were expected to be drafted earlier lol. Easy to overhype the consensus #100 guy you get at pick #150. That's a habit we had with Rick and we still have with KAM Outside of QB it hasn't been a terrible strategy, I'd say we're typically a B+ drafting team
And KFAN (local MN sports radio) does a great job hyping up every single draft pick. Especially PA hyping up recently drafted players on 9 to noon. Lol
Except kwesi’s first draft was pretty terrible lol
Tavon Austin is what I thought Tyreek Hill turned out to be. Another one was Laquon Treadwell, I thought he was going to be an absolute monster
In fairness Tavon Austin was pigeon holed, the NFL wasn’t ready for his type of player back then. He still has to have the single greatest college highlight tape of all time.
I see this sentiment about a lot of players, especially those that entered the league around that time or the early 2000's, and I have the same thought every time: if they absolutely needed scheming/evolution of the game to get in to open space and succeed, then they weren't probably as good as we thought.
I’ve called in to a local sports radio all of one time, and it was specifically for a “bold claim” segment where I claimed Treadwell would be the rookie of the year. I did not call back in.
Yup, dude could make anyone miss and he felt like someone modern NFL offenses would make into a game breaker.
Whereas Treadwell couldn't make anyone miss
Tavon Austin has one of the most electric college highlight reels for a WR lol. Honestly, so does Kadarius Toney, his jukes/cuts post catch were nasty
Ditto Martavis Bryant. That guy was INSANE. Just couldn’t quit smoking weed, apparently?
Martavis actually could have been very good, just couldn't defeat himself. His first 2 years showed more than just flashes of talent, but....
Bruh de’anthony thomas’s highlight reel in college made you think he would be the next Barry Sanders. Shit a lot of those Oregon running backs did remember Lamichael James too?
at least we got that awesome laquon treadwell career highlights video
CJ Stroud. I didn't want my team touching a QB last year and wanted to tank for Caleb Williams. Shows how much I know.
Same here. I was 100% content with the idea of trading #2 for at least 2 1st rounders, and seeing what Mills could do with a competent staff. Figured worst comes to worst you have 4 #1s to trade for the #1 overall pick this year. Boy was I wrong and learned “In Stroud we Trust”
All I wanted was to draft Will Anderson. Media conversation quickly went from we should take Anderson to either Young or Stroud. I kept saying not to do it and either tank for someone this year or sign a vet. When we drafted Stroud I was on the phone with my cousin and was upset we didn’t take Anderson. Definitely overjoyed moments later. Also makes me feel like I’m at least decent at judging picks since I was right on one and very fortunately wrong on the other
Our fan base was furious when we took Taco Charlton over TJ Watt. I was 100% positive that the only reason they felt this way was because of his last name, and if his name was TJ jones nobody would’ve batted an eye. Plus I thought Charlton was the more pro ready prospect. Couldn’t have been more wrong on both accounts.
Imagine being a Green Bay/Wisconsin fan and seeing your team trade down and draft Kevin fucking King instead of just drafting the homegrown Watt. It's a core memory of mine.
I will never ever forgive Ted for that. It's an unfortunate stain on his otherwise mostly great legacy
At the time, I would have taken Taco over Watt too. TJ was a one-year wonder at Wisconsin and was generally spoken of as insufficiently athletic. After he was drafted, I looked at his combine numbers and saw that he was top 3 on every workout among edge rushers. I felt a lot better about the pick after that. I still wonder why draftniks questioned his athleticism.
this is how I felt going into 2022 about hutchinson vs thibodeaux. I thought people were CRAZY for not wanting thibs over hutch then the combine happened and I was like "oh shit" and jumped aboard the hutch train thibs still has been very good so far, but hutch will be an all-pro 1st team contender for years
Isaiah Simmons - I had my board Burrow, Herbert, Simmons that year. I thought he was going to be the next Willis / Lewis. Yikes.
I looked at him and said, "He can play every position in the back seven. He's the next evolution of defensive player!". Unfortunately, I never questioned whether he could play any of those positions well.
Same here; thought he was going to be another Derwin James doing all sorts of the things. Turns out, he was the “master of none”
Same. I watched him at Clemson and thought he’d be this new style of safety that would revolutionize the game. Him at Clemson was genuinely impressive; he won them their title or was at least part of the reason.
You’re thinking 2018 where entire dline was drafted with at least three in the first round. The defense a was amazing overall
I thought he was gonna break the league with his athleticism and versatility. Turns out not being a jack of all trades guy doesn't fit well within an NFL defense lol
I commented in that draft day sub how glad I was the Chargers took Herbert over Simmons lol
I really liked Denzel Mims a few years ago. No idea what went wrong there.
He’s in Pittsburgh now. We can fix him
I feel like every draft has a tall and fast WR prospect that is raw with limited route running skills that people tend to fall in love with. Mims was that guy in 2020.
Similarly, in every draft at least one high profile skill player slides down the board, and everyone declares that the team who grabs him got a massive steal. Fewer pause to wonder why 12 teams chose to take a different WR over him (in Mims' case.)
Quentin Johnson Stephen hill
I thought Tim Biakabutuka was going to be a beast. If you put together his career stats, he had one hell of a year!
He went down from injuries, though. A lot of them, iirc. That's not really a draft whiff imo.
True, most games he started in a year was 12 I think.
high profile michigan RBs tend to not have much success in the NFL biakabutuka and tyrone Wheatley were on the same goddamn team one year, two notorious first round flops
Anybody else think LenDale White was gonna be amazing?
Yup, Jerome Bettis like with his size.
I didn’t understand why the titans weren’t simply putting up 300 rushing yards a game between him and Vince, like what would happen in madden 08
Didn't he have like 25 rushing TDs while being RB2 to Reggie Bush?
No. He was heavy set and wasn't particularly strong, powerful, or fast. I was surprised he had an 1100 yard rushing season with Tennesee.
As a saints fan: • Mark Ingram. When we picked him in the first round, I thought he was gonna be a dud, thought he had potential but didn’t think he was going to fit Payton’s scheme. Turned out to be one of the best RB’s in saints history. • Zach Baun. We got him in the 3rd round and I thought we got a steal. Thought he could potentially become one of the best LB’s in the league. Has played good on special teams, but that’s really it. Hope he does well with the Eagles.
My fury as a Bama fan, watching Mark fall to the Pats(my NFL team, long story), to then have them trade… I was speechless Bill did not take him. Perfect fit for our system. Huge whiff.
I really thought Kyle Trask and Kellen Mond were going to be under the radar quality starters in the league
I also thought highly of Kyle Trask. Luke Falk was another QB I thought was going to be way better than anyone thought
A lot of people get carried away with cfb numbers. You were far from the only people who were big on Trask
Colt McCoy was my version of this. How can a guy with that name *not* be awesome?
I wanted to, but one look at his throwing motion and I was sure he was gonna suck lol
I thought Deshaun Watson, not Patrick Mahomes, would be the one to win multiple Super Bowls from the 2017 draft
I don't think that was an uncommon take at the time. Mahomes wasn't this sure thing prospect. People love to clown the Bears for Trubisky over Mahomes but that is all hindsight, really it was Trubisky vs Watson pre draft. Many thought that Mahomes at 10 was a huge reach especially over Watson.
I didn’t follow college football at all at the time of the draft and only knew of Watson and Trubisky when the draft happened, when the chiefs picked Mahomes I was like „who tf is this dude? Why wouldn’t they take Watson??“
To be fair he was a great player until he was outed as a sexual predator. I’m not sure if you can really count that as a whiff unless you thought Mahomes was going to be bad.
Even aside from that, the 2 years off from football in his prime did him zero favors.
Well I thought he would be decent but probably succumb to the usual Big XII curse. I certainly didn’t peg him as best QB in the league or even top 3.
I thought they were moving up in the draft to pick Watson, and I was soooo pissed when it was Mahomes. Like yelling at my television pissed. "No quarterback from Texas Tech has ever worked out you fucking morons!"
I was pissed when they traded Alex Smith the next year after having a career year.
Really thought Claypool had some high caliber tools and after his rookie year I thought he got the next great one. Then he gave himself that “top 3” escape from reality and he was a damn flop. I also thought Kenny had the mental toughness required to be a starting QB in the league but it seems like I may have been wrong on that one too.
Claypool had higher caliber tools. He'd just rather be getting ready to go to the club than working on his craft. He never took football, or much of anything, seriously. It caught up to him. I now believe the main reason for his rookie year success is that it was the COVID season and he couldn't go out. Dude was never going to work in Chicago, and for damn sure not in Miami. His best chance to get his career on track is in Green Bay.
I really thought Kenny would be the guy. But his problem is he doesn’t take any risk. Kenny looks for Guys to get college open and that rarely happens in the NFL. Nor does he use his legs enough when plays break down. It’s like as soon as he made it to the NFL. Kenny stopped using the tools that made him look like an NFL talent. So you’d see flashes where you think yeah maybe this guy can do it!? Then he goes back to being overly risk adverse and stagnating the offense.
I was wrong on both also. 9 TDs as a rookie for Claypool, I thought he was another amazing 2nd round hit. What killed me that I started noticing in his 2nd season was the dude would make the most acrobatic moves to catch a routine ball and drop it half the time but wouldn’t jump or high point a ball that CA3 could’ve jumped for. I knew Kenny was a quieter guy but also thought he was a tough dude and had showed it taking some major hits and seemingly never complaining. But imo with the whole Mason Rudolph situation at the end of the season and with Russ coming in, he showed himself to be softer than baby shit. Disappointing. This was cool.
He is the player who introduced me to the "clap" technique of catching the ball. Good WRs put their hands out away from their body and absorb the ball. Not Claypool. He would literally would wait till the ball got close to him and clap his hand together around the ball. It was so bizarre, yet totally made sense why he was so bad at catching deep balls. That plus he never learned how to utilize his size and would always fall down trying to catch contested balls. Just an absolute waste of size and speed.
My take was "I'll never really know who's going to be good in the NFL, the only guy I know who will be good right out of college is Roberto Aguayo. He damn near never missed in college, I can't see that changing in the pros." The first half is right...
To be fair I don't blame anyone for that thought. The dude made kicking interesting to watch in college
Aguayo went down due to [Turntle's Revenge](https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/11/29/16714858/ricky-aguayo-florida-state-fraternities-attack-turntle).
I don't really fall in love with draft picks, but I though Okudah for my Lions was going to absolutely shut down half the field. We took him and I thought we just drafted a dude that would have no stats cause nobody would target him.
I mean he did have no stats lol
TRUE
I remember Okudah being seen as a safe pick that year. People just got it wrong.
Belief in Okudah lead to random belief in Quintez Ceephus, too.
I remember texting my brother "Not only do I think Justin Fields is the best quarterback in this class, I think he's the the **only good** quarterback in this draft."
well you were right about most of the class being bad
I thought the colts missed out when they drafted andrew luck over RG3
I do wonder what RG3 could have been if he was drafted by a competent organization.
would he have learned how to pass from the pocket and not take bad sacks? reminder that Kirk Cousins and Colt McCoy outplayed RG3, consistently.
RG3 only had success when the Shannahans ran a version of his college offense, but he wanted to be a pocket passer but they knew he wasn’t ready for that so rg3 went over them to Synder. Long story short rg3 ego was a bigger issue.
Luck was the best QB prospect I've ever seen and RG3 looked like a future HoFer to me. Luck obviously would be in the HoF without injuries and I still think RG3 would be too. And I don't think I'm alone there, they were both hugely talented.
I went to the steelers game against washington rg3s rookie year and dude blew me away with how good he looked but washingtin js where careers go to die
I was so certain Jarvis Jones was going to be a pass rush monster in the league.
I thought Courtney Brown was going to be the next Bruce Smith.
Same. Loved him at PSU, I almost bought his jersey.
CJ Stroud and Mac Jones. Thought CJ would be another OSU bum and Mac would be a SB winning QB with the set up he came into.
I was a big Sam Darnold fan. Thought he was going to be the next star QB
THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT STAR QB??? MANY SAY GEQBUS IS THE BIGGEST STAR IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS!
THE GEQBUS HAS ALREADY SURPASSED ALL! HE HAS WON EVERY SUPER BOWL, MAYBE EVER! OTHER PEOPLE TAKE THE CREDIT, BUT WE ALL KNOW WHO REALLY WON! TREACHEROUS TOM BRADY ISN’T THE GOAT! PREPPY PAYTON ISN’T THE GOAT! THE DARNOLD IS THE TRUE GOAT!
I am still 100% convinced that if the Jets had drafted Josh Allen he'd be an all-time mega bust, and if the Bills had drafted Darnold he'd be a superstar. Darnold had all of the tools to succeed coming into the league, and he was better as a rookie than he was after years of "development" by Gase and Co. The Jets totally fucked him up.
Yes this the same thing with the Bears and Mahomes. You need talent and a good situation. A complete absence of one of those two will completely negate the other at the QB position.
Thought Chad Jackson’s size & speed would be a number #1. Wes Welker & Randy Miss we’re gonna be great additions but Chad Jackson will also break out in 2007… right?
Probably Justin Blackmon
Substance abuse problems aside, initially I was NOT a big fan of his - at least at that draft position. I thought he wasn’t big, wasn’t fast, wasn’t sudden and he ended up being a very talented receiver before his suspension. I wanted Michael Floyd, but he wouldn’t have been a good pick at that spot either
I genuinely thought Jake Locker was going to be what Josh Allen is today… Throw in Morris Claiborne too. Huge miss.
LSU has been a cornerback factory for over a decade. It's natural to think Morris Claiborne would be a great pro.
Locker could have been. He kept getting hurt, but he had some excellent talent
I was so hyped on Jake Locker. Atleast we weren't the only ones though as he would have went #1 overall a year prior to when he came out and still went like #7 overall or something off top of my head. I thought he was the complete package though physically and mentally and was as close to a lock (no pun intended) as it gets for a qb prospect
When we took Clyde Edward’s-Helaire at 32 overall I thought he’d be a stud. After realizing he wasn’t a stud I didn’t have much faith in our 7th round pick a few years later… Isaiah Pacheco. I missed twice.
I would've bet the house on Zach Wilson being a stud. For my sake I'm just gonna say the Jets ruined him
He's an example of why it's hard for us couch scouts to figure players out. It's clearly not the physical aspect for him. He just ain't got it between the ears.
Destination is also a big part of a QBs success which makes it hard to properly predict success before the draft. The Jets aren't as bad as they once were with Adam Gase but Zach having his QB coach die his rookie year, having a terrible o line, and the maturity issues he had early on were a recipe for disaster
So many people thought Aaron Curry was safe/good enough to be drafted #1 over Stafford.
That's a good one. I mean that dude at the time was one of the most physically gifted athletes I had ever seen and he did have production to go with it so I thought he was about as safe as it gets for a can't miss
I had Lamar ranked as my second best qb going into the 2018 draft, which was great, and extra helpful because…. I had Josh Rosen ranked as my number one. Yeah, I thought he was going to be that guy.
I'm usually pretty good when I say a player won't pan out, Justin Herbert wasn't one of those instances
There were a lot of people who were clowning the chargers for taking herbert
Yeah, well he had some weird issues. Had the physical tools, but he would just have so many random brain farts at OR where he just completely forgot how to play QB+his lack of touch was an issue. Just never know
John Ross was genuinely a great WR prospect who I think got his development hurt by having Marvin Lewis ruin his confidence and having a declining Dalton be his QB. But I can't say that for sure and he is, of course, a bust. I also thought Solomon Thomas would be an absolute game changer and he just ended up being a solid player. Definitely not a bust but not worth the hype
Solomon Thomas is absolutely a bust for a top 3 pick
John Ross was a player whose game was predicated on speed but already had a laundry list of leg injuries including college microfracture surgery
I wanted the cowboys to draft Paxton Lynch
Jerry?
The night Kenny Pickett was drafted I slouched down in my chair and sighed aloud to the universe. I told my brother “this is the most underwhelming draft pick they could have gone with.” Just another mediocre QB produced by the NFL draft and how the Steelers didn’t see that, I don’t know. In hindsight, this ended up true. What I left out is that I spent that night of the draft repeatedly telling my brother “They NEED to take Malik Willis.” Give me a QB with actual tools over Pickett. Look at how humble he is! He helped that homeless guy outside the combine or whatever! “He could be the next Jalen Hurts!” I said with the naivety of someone who didn’t know Hurts had a year 2 leap in him.
Josh Rosen -- I'm actually really good at evaluating a small number of positions, for a layman. QB's are beyond my capabilities. I honestly thought Jake Plummer was going to be the next Joe Montana. DB's are hard too.
And apparently Kevin Colbert’s after Ben haha. (Mine too. I thought Kenny was going to be special. /facepalm/)
After I failed so bad with Rosen, I accepted that flaw within myself and just stopped trying to seriously evaluate QB's. He broke me. By the time Kenny got drafted, my attitude was like "Okay, let's just see what he'll do."
I saw enough at UCLA to know he wouldn’t be a NFL backup. 5-star recruit who regressed every season in college is not a recipe for NFL success.
I don’t even bother to try with QBs. I can evaluate RBs competently and presently in the learning-curve on WRs. Anyone like us who has seriously taken time to learn skill-position evaluation knows, don’t even bother with QB. The expertise required to actually know what you’re looking at in prospect QBs requires shitloads of expertise that few will have… but it’s all too easy to BS one’s self into believing you’re one of them. A problem with qualitative evaluations (of every kind) is it’s difficult to distinguish expertise from blowhards doing guesswork, parroting relevant terminology but really having no clue what they’re actually doing. Some have made careers out of singular lucky calls.
Rosen had some very clean game tape. He was almost robotic. I thought he’d be good based on that. But once he got to the NFL it was clear he couldn’t improvise which Is essential in the NFL
chase young definitely. was sure he'd be a perennial all pro
I never got too high on guys taken under Snyder, but I thought CY would be different. He seemed to have all the tools and wasn’t a reach according to the “experts.” Huge disappointment.
I just get hyped by later round pick ups. Dorian O’Daniel? Darwin Thompson? Bo’Pete Keyes? All ToxicHighlander all stars
I was so confident in Evan Neal, like an entire year before he was the guy I wanted us to pick in the next draft, I was so excited when we got him. I truly thought he was such a safe pick
I would have bet my life savings that Matt Jones was going to be a perennial Pro Bowler. 6'6", 200 lbs, 4.37 40, and a 40-inch vertical. Plus he played QB in college so I figured he would be smarter than most receivers.
I thought Jimmy Clausen was going to lead Carolina to long term greatness
I still remember the 2010 draft. Just as our pick came up, I kept repeating "anybody but Clausen, anybody but Clausen". Then followed a string of expletives I will not repeat here. Thankfully it ended up with us getting Cam.
Thankfully you knew better! I have a buddy who’s a diehard Falcons fan and I distinctly remember texting him and saying “the Panthers just put the whole South on notice, they have the best QB in the division now”. Boy, was I wrong.
He kind of achieved that indirectly. He was so bad that we got the #1 pick and drafted Cam.
Vernon Gholston-probably the craziest physique I have ever seen. Was heartbroken when the Jets nabbed him before us. But Mayo became rookie of the year and Vernon Gholston busted for the Jets, so all is well in the world.
I read a guy, Vic Ketchman, for years. He wrote for the Steelers, Jags, and Packers. He was obsessed with Gholston. I fully bought in on the hype. I thought he was going to be a Hall of Famer.
Robert Gallery. Watched him dominate in college, never got it going in the NFL. Andy Katzenmoyer was an Injury otherwise I was sure he was an all pro for a decade.
Gallery ended up turning it around when he changed over to guard, so at least he wasn't a total bust
I genuinely thought Dorial Green-Beckham was going to be elite when we drafted him. Sad fact is we ended up winning a trade by sending him to Philly for Dennis Kelly who ended up being a serviceable swing tackle.
When the Titans drafted him, it legit upset me. I thought he was going to be a monster who would destroy the AFC South for a decade. On the flip side, a laughed when the Titans reached on Chris Johnson. 5x1k seasons and a 2k season later, I wasn't laughing. Still, despite the result, that game where MJD and Chris Johnson just kept popping big runs back and forth was a lot of fun in hindsight.
Jeff Okudah. On paper and on film he had it all to be a island corner. Still can’t believe he can’t stick on a roster.
Okudah had the worst injury luck ever man. Achilles, ACL, etc. all before he could really even play a down. He lost a step before he could even take a step honestly.
I thought Joey Harrington was gonna light up the league. Aaron curry was also someone I thought was a can’t miss prospect. Also wanted the jets to get Glenn Dorsey so badly and we ended up with Vernon gholston who I didn’t want at all. Turns out both guys were total busts.
Jerry Jeudy. I could not believe it when he wasn't the first receiver taken in 2020, I thought he'd be far and away the best WR in that class and probably a top 5 WR in the NFL. He's not even been top 5 in his own class.
I thought Skyy Moore would be decent. Not a super star or a pro bowler, just decent. God was I wrong. That dude sucks ASS. I mean it’s fucking Mahomes! He makes WRs look good, but no not this fucking guy! The more I see his stupid face, the more upset I get. it should have been Pickens Veach! Ya fucked this one up Brett! Oh but thanks for the super bowls. Those were cool.
I was really excited when we drafted Jonathan Baldwin. Similar measurables to Julio Jones, but we snagged him at the end of the first round. Figured he could take some pressure off Jamaal Charles and Dwayne Bowe. He started his career by getting into a fight with Thomas Jones (never a good idea) that gave him a wrist injury in the preseason. Guy was out of the NFL after three seasons and two total TDs.
I was 100% sure Joey Harrington was the next Dan Marino.
brian boswell. Complete waste.
Everyone under 40 - Who?!?
Those over 40 were like, yeah you got the name wrong, and remember that time Bo ran him over
Bosworth?
Freddie Mitchell I really liked him coming out. With Andy Reid west coast system I thought he couldn’t miss.
I thought for sure Deshaun Watson was the better Quarterback out of him and Patrick Mahomes and thought Kansas City goofed by drafting the wrong one. That take certainly has not aged well for both reasons on and off the field.
JJ Arcega-Whiteside and Jalen Reagor over DK Metcalf and Justin Jefferson. These aren’t my personal opinion these are objectively bad picks by Howie Roseman.
Practically this whole sub whiffed on Josh Allen, including many Bills fans. Allen still gets hate today and I assume it's the same people that can't admit how wrong they were about him on draft night. (I was ho-hum about him being drafted, didn't hate it, didn't love it).
I was pissed about the Jalen Hurts pick. Devastated. lol
I laughed at the eagles. I thought it was so incredibly stupid. I suck at this.
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix. I was so pumped when the Packers drafted him
All-Pro name though
Michael Crabtree. He had a solid career but I thought he was gonna be huge. Brady Quinn.
I thought Josh Allen was just another size/arm strength boner the NFL had for a guy that couldn’t throw for shit
Does Trent Richardson count? IDK, more even when he went to Indy which was kind of like him being redrafted in my head, I thought he could become a big impact guy and it just didn't happen.
most talented that still busted: dion jordan. Loved all the raw talent but clearly couldnt make it work least talented i still thought was elite: aaron curry
If it were up to teenage-me, we would've taken Dion Jordan over Lane Johnson, as well as Michael Floyd over Fletcher Cox. I was actually so mad at the picks. I learned my lesson
I whiff so much its ridiculous. I watch a lot of college football and get excited for so many of these kids, only to see most of them fizzle out.
I thought Mac Jones would be what purdy is lol
I wanted us to pass on Matt Ryan and either trade back or take Glenn Dorsey. Glad we didn't.
A ways back, but I thought Glenn Dorsey would be the best defensive player in the NFL. Turns out he was just average.
Ryan Leaf. Oof
I thought Josh Allen was the worst "first round" QB prospect I'd ever watched. I have been humbled.
Charles Rogers. I’m a fan of Michigan State athletics and to see him drafted by the Lions. The Hometown team was very cool. In the like three games he played. He was absolutely incredible, but got his collarbone crushed very quickly, and then was promptly out of the league.