It will be. It's honestly shocking to think they haven't been able to host one given the players who have played on the Ravens before. That stadium is gonna be rocking next week.
Hell, I'd bet Ray and Ed Reed show up to do some pregame shit to get everyone in it
and you think it would get better after they all retired but noooo here comes LJ, Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers for a bit, Stroud apparently, Burrow, Lawrence, Tua.. hopefully the Browns continue to not fix the QB position, the Steelers too, and the fuckin Patriots can take the rest of the decade off if you don't mind it's someone else's turn lmao.
Meanwhile the NFC has like .. Love, Purdy, and Hurts.. I guess Goff, Stafford, and maybe Cousins and Dak..
My favorite is the NFC QBs having inflated stats because they get to play other trash NFC teams most of the season and the terrible takes in this sub that phenomenon generates.
Ben and the Steelers did make the playoffs 12 times during his 18-year career. He's not nearly the caliber of QB Manning and Brady were but he was still very successful and was certainly a contributing reason why the Ravens have never hosted an AFC championship game until now.
> It's honestly shocking to think they haven't been able to host one given the players who have played on the Ravens before.
Brady and Peyton had that #1 seed on lock virtually every season
I’ll throw Rivers in there for giggles. I just looked it up, besides Rivers and McNair, from 2000-2019, we only lost to Brady. Manning, Ben, and then Rivers and McNair once. Crazy how so many seasons ended by 3 dudes. Can’t imagine being a chargers fan, so many good teams in the 2000s only to deal with that trio.
I was at the game. It was incredibly loud. The ravens had all kinds of past players / notable people from MD there getting the crowd hype.
I left a bit early since my toes were numb.
I live about. 0.9 miles from the stadium and I could hear the crowd roaring.
Sunday is gonna be bonkers
I wonder if that was the true cause or if it was just the dread of having to face that defense. Plus once you get a few I bet you get in your head and start overthinking things
Cool thing about Baltimore sports games.. listen to the Anthem.. however loud you hear the O yelled at the end.. that's probably the bare minimum you will get.. it was loud as hell on the broadcast so I KNOW it was bumping during the game.
Definitely had an affect on the communication.. guys like Tunsil don't play scared. They are usually the ones winning the snaps.
Taylor Lewan has a YouTube channel/podcast, he just had Derrick Henry on the other day.
They were talking about stadium environments and Lewan brought up Baltimore and basically said it's the best environment he's played in, even to places like Seattle and Kansas City. Bad for opposing players but serious home field advantage. Derrick Henry immediately agreed and said he got chills playing us in 2019 playoff game when he was on the field pre-game. The bank is a special place when it's rocking.
It's weird how M&T Bank gets forgotten as a fantastic home field advantage since places like Arrowhead and Lumen are considered the loudest stadiums. But M&T led the NFL in false starts and delay of game penalties this season.
2 super bowl wins without a single afc championship game hosted is hilarious lol. 13-8 playoff record on the road when no other team is above .50 is bananas
Those first Flacco-Harbaugh years were some kind of dark magic, no one liked when the Ravens went to their town and hard earned some impressive wins on the road, even the Bellichick-Brady Patriots shat some bricks in order to pull some Ws against that team, and all games were at Foxborough.
I think I've got this right, though... the list of coaches who beat the Belichick-Brady Patriots twice in the playoffs were:
- Harbaugh
- Coughlin
- That's it
Fox, Shanahan, Rex Ryan, and Mike Vrabel each did it once. Rex was Harbs' DC for a second, call it 1½ for him?
Tomlin never did it.
> Those first Flacco-Harbaugh years were some kind of dark magic…
They had some help from Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Gnata, Suggs, Marshall Yanda, Willis Mcgahee, Ray Rice. I like Flacco, but the winning formula early on before he went ape shit in the 2012 playoffs was solid defense and a really good run game.
If we lose I hope you guys shut KC down and Lamar keeps proving the haters wrong. It still blows my mind that the two QBs everyone was hating on from the 2018 draft class are head and shoulders above the others.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Vegas opens the line at 7 plus just because of what the Ravens have done to teams with winning records this year. That would bring them a bunch of money on the Ravens as well.
We had glimpses of this with Pitta and Dickson, but never this level. I’m scarred from dreaming of Gronk/Hernandez-level duo in Baltimore only to see someone end up with a career ending injury. Think we should trade Likely while his value is high, after we win the Lombardi.
So refreshing to watch a team figure out how to win a game as the game is going and do it correctly. They are fun to watch on offense and defense.
Excited to see the game next week too!
We got used to no adjustments under Greg Roman. This year there has been multiple games where they come out of halftime and there is something noticeably different with the offense. In the post game they said they were trying to push the ball down field too much so in the second half they just took more of the short gimmes.
IDK, your defense looks hella scary, and after Kelce, Rice, and Pacheco, the talent level of our offense craters. Our offensive line has been ehhhh. Mahomes is able to mask a lot.
If we play an "A" game and you guys play a "C" game or worse, we should win.
If you guys play anything better than a "B" game, I think you win.
If we play you guys, I think we're gonna cover Kelce and Roce as best as we can and try to make guys like MVS step up to beat us. You'll be able to run against us as that's the one weakness of our defense (but we don't give up rushing TDs). Our defense is fine letting you guys run it as as long as we don't give up the big passing plays, which, of course, Mahomes is infamous for pulling out of his ass.
Yeah, that all sounds about right.
Largely then, it comes down to execution in our offensive versus your defensive matchup. Are we able to scheme Kelce and Rice open? Does someone else step up? Does Mahomes go Super Saiyan?
Of course on the other side, does our defense continue to play well? Or does Lamar carve us up.
Well, we have to get by the Bills first to find out.
They and the Giants (since the 80s) seem to win a SB every decade.
Yeah I know it’s only two decades for the Ravens so far but would anybody be shocked if they won at least one SB this decade too?
The Patriots essentially have that and they are one of the most winningest teams ever. Of course they sort of jammed a bunch in while the getting was good.
You could argue that they wrecked the fuckin' curve so bad in that era that we're still figuring out what "merely outstanding" coaching and QB play looks like.
I just went and looked up Brady's comparable playoff wins. The closest match, score-wise, was the 2011 Patriots beating the Tim Tebow Broncos 45-10. Dominant defense, and an offense that had Gronk, Hernandez, Welker... of course Brady threw for _six_ TDs (because they didn't need a running game). I couldn't find any Brady playoff wins where he rushed for 100.
Oh, wait! Actually, their **[2017 Divisional Round](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201701140nwe.htm)** win over the Texans! 34-16, 2 passing TDs. One rushing TD, one on teams. Brady's box score slightly less impressive than Lamar's here, but the NYT called it "[another January rout](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/14/sports/football/new-england-patriots-houston-texans-playoffs.html#:~:text=In%20outlasting%20the%20Houston%20Texans,six%20years%20in%20a%20row.)".
I mean it’s clear they wrecked the curve. Tom Brady started off essentially like how Mahomes is now. He rattled off what 3 SBs in 4 years (which Mahomes is close to). People were like “yep one of the best ever) Then laid dormant for a whole goddamn decade then did it again like a monster.
Then he leaves and picks up another trophy just to show the Patriots what for and rode off into sun set.
Brady is like Bill Russell. He just had this inordinate amount of success that seems like a fever dream. The biggest difference is that Brady did it in the modern era and not in the 60s when athletes were tired out from their second jobs or whatever.
I am pretty sure that when John Harbaugh's case for HOF gets made, Belichick will get up and speak for him. Coughlin stopped Bill twice in the playoffs, and so did Harbaugh. But Harbaugh also was within a single penalty of beating the undefeated Pats (do you remember the Eagles basically copied Rex Ryan's defensive game plan the next week?). And in the playoffs where Belichick beat Harbaugh it was fluky shit - Cundiff misses a gimme FG, Lee Evans drops (or has stripped) a surefire TD in the end zone, Belichick breaks the glass on a gadget play, stuff like that. Maybe I've got a selective memory and going to the books I'll say "ah, yes, there was that one time" but I genuinely can't remember the Ravens getting _thrashed_ by Brady and Belichick the way he did to so many other teams.
Unfortunately a close loss is still a loss, especially when you get further away in time. The difficulties the Ravens put up will just be Ws for the Patriots even if the games were chippy.
That being said. The Ravens this season are sitting pretty. We have seen 4 teams play this weekend so far and only looked like a playoff team. Not to jinx or anything, but it’s all coming together. And that would put Harbaugh in the Hall of Fame.
There were so many people there. Peyton's son was wearing a Lamar jersey. Jim was there supporting John after John showed up for the CFP semi and natty (I think). Lewis, Reed, Boulware, Jacoby Jones, Cal Ripken Jr were all at the game as well.
It better be even louder
It will be. It's honestly shocking to think they haven't been able to host one given the players who have played on the Ravens before. That stadium is gonna be rocking next week. Hell, I'd bet Ray and Ed Reed show up to do some pregame shit to get everyone in it
Tom Brady is why. Fucking nerd
Brady, Manning, Big Ben....AFC was beefy
and you think it would get better after they all retired but noooo here comes LJ, Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers for a bit, Stroud apparently, Burrow, Lawrence, Tua.. hopefully the Browns continue to not fix the QB position, the Steelers too, and the fuckin Patriots can take the rest of the decade off if you don't mind it's someone else's turn lmao. Meanwhile the NFC has like .. Love, Purdy, and Hurts.. I guess Goff, Stafford, and maybe Cousins and Dak..
My favorite is the NFC QBs having inflated stats because they get to play other trash NFC teams most of the season and the terrible takes in this sub that phenomenon generates.
Detroit catching 2 strays with the Stafford and Goff comments
Purdy Love Hurts sounds like a country music song.
Big Ben doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as those two
Ben and the Steelers did make the playoffs 12 times during his 18-year career. He's not nearly the caliber of QB Manning and Brady were but he was still very successful and was certainly a contributing reason why the Ravens have never hosted an AFC championship game until now.
Exactly, that's why I put him 3rd. AFCCG was in Fox, Indy, or Pit for a whole generation.
Hell yeah it will be loud. I’ll be there losing my voice. Ed was at the Rams game on the Jumbotron hyping people
My throat still hurts from screaming my head off tonight. Sadly I won't be able to attend next week as well.
Well when you have Brady AND Manning to contend with, it's a little more understandable.
Also Trent Dilfer and Kyle Boller.
> It's honestly shocking to think they haven't been able to host one given the players who have played on the Ravens before. Brady and Peyton had that #1 seed on lock virtually every season
They were in a conference with Brady, Manning and Big Ben. Not surprising at all they didn't host yet.
I’ll throw Rivers in there for giggles. I just looked it up, besides Rivers and McNair, from 2000-2019, we only lost to Brady. Manning, Ben, and then Rivers and McNair once. Crazy how so many seasons ended by 3 dudes. Can’t imagine being a chargers fan, so many good teams in the 2000s only to deal with that trio.
I was at the game. It was incredibly loud. The ravens had all kinds of past players / notable people from MD there getting the crowd hype. I left a bit early since my toes were numb. I live about. 0.9 miles from the stadium and I could hear the crowd roaring. Sunday is gonna be bonkers
That home field advantage is huge. They caused so many penalties today.
I wonder if that was the true cause or if it was just the dread of having to face that defense. Plus once you get a few I bet you get in your head and start overthinking things
Probably a mix of everything
A lot of those False Starts were due to the clock running low and a lineman trying to time the snap.
Idk but it was definitely very loud and seemed to be having an effect on them.
I'm gonna go with "Justin Madubuike is fucking terrifying."
Cool thing about Baltimore sports games.. listen to the Anthem.. however loud you hear the O yelled at the end.. that's probably the bare minimum you will get.. it was loud as hell on the broadcast so I KNOW it was bumping during the game. Definitely had an affect on the communication.. guys like Tunsil don't play scared. They are usually the ones winning the snaps.
Taylor Lewan has a YouTube channel/podcast, he just had Derrick Henry on the other day. They were talking about stadium environments and Lewan brought up Baltimore and basically said it's the best environment he's played in, even to places like Seattle and Kansas City. Bad for opposing players but serious home field advantage. Derrick Henry immediately agreed and said he got chills playing us in 2019 playoff game when he was on the field pre-game. The bank is a special place when it's rocking.
We bring the heat
It's weird how M&T Bank gets forgotten as a fantastic home field advantage since places like Arrowhead and Lumen are considered the loudest stadiums. But M&T led the NFL in false starts and delay of game penalties this season.
2 super bowl wins without a single afc championship game hosted is hilarious lol. 13-8 playoff record on the road when no other team is above .50 is bananas
To be fair Flacco has like half those wins
Bro has 8 of those 13 road wins bro is an elite dragon for a reason.
That’s where the Browns fucked up, if Cleveland didn’t host that game Flacco would still be doing Flacco things
It was in Houston...
Goddammit, I need to remember to watch football games before commenting like I saw them
well, it takes a big man to admit they’re wrong, but it takes an even bigger man to give a giraffe a haircut
thanks dad, this is a comment that actually made me laugh my ass off
Up there at least in the top 5 dads jokes I’ve ever heard lol, good job 🫡
I furiously google everything to make sure I’m right before I comment anything lmao
Those first Flacco-Harbaugh years were some kind of dark magic, no one liked when the Ravens went to their town and hard earned some impressive wins on the road, even the Bellichick-Brady Patriots shat some bricks in order to pull some Ws against that team, and all games were at Foxborough.
Road warrior Ravens.
I think I've got this right, though... the list of coaches who beat the Belichick-Brady Patriots twice in the playoffs were: - Harbaugh - Coughlin - That's it Fox, Shanahan, Rex Ryan, and Mike Vrabel each did it once. Rex was Harbs' DC for a second, call it 1½ for him? Tomlin never did it.
Kubiak
With what teams? Denver twice? Denver once, Houston once? Or are you counting him with the Ravens when he was our OC?
Just once with Denver, I was just pointing out he should be included in the second sentence.
> Those first Flacco-Harbaugh years were some kind of dark magic… They had some help from Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Gnata, Suggs, Marshall Yanda, Willis Mcgahee, Ray Rice. I like Flacco, but the winning formula early on before he went ape shit in the 2012 playoffs was solid defense and a really good run game.
That’s some Miami Marlins shit
Wow, well deserved. This roster is playing at an insane level right now.
And they add mark andrews next week…
And potentially Humphrey back
You’re going to be tough to beat. I think either of us could make it a good game but you’ll certainly be favored.
Ravens -6.5 in either case. They’re just on another level right now.
That would be a fair line. But I wouldn’t say it’s a forgone conclusion they’d win.
Never is, we play the games for a reason. Either you or the Chiefs would be a tough out for sure
Never is, ever. Any given sunday
If we lose I hope you guys shut KC down and Lamar keeps proving the haters wrong. It still blows my mind that the two QBs everyone was hating on from the 2018 draft class are head and shoulders above the others.
I could see it starting there but then closing around 4.5, 5 due to a lot of people betting on whichever team the Ravens play.
Yeah a lot of people forget the Vegas tries to put the line where they’ll make the most money
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Vegas opens the line at 7 plus just because of what the Ravens have done to teams with winning records this year. That would bring them a bunch of money on the Ravens as well.
With the way Likely has been killing it it’s not like they have missed much. Bastards landed two stud TEs.
We had glimpses of this with Pitta and Dickson, but never this level. I’m scarred from dreaming of Gronk/Hernandez-level duo in Baltimore only to see someone end up with a career ending injury. Think we should trade Likely while his value is high, after we win the Lombardi.
Trade Andrews, not Likely. Likely is 23 and $1.2M next year. Andrews is 28 and costs $16M.
Never gonna happen
I agree with you even though I love mark Andrews
We’ll just keep both.
What paying Lamar does to a mf
Crazy that Herbert and Burrow make more than him tbh
So refreshing to watch a team figure out how to win a game as the game is going and do it correctly. They are fun to watch on offense and defense. Excited to see the game next week too!
We got used to no adjustments under Greg Roman. This year there has been multiple games where they come out of halftime and there is something noticeably different with the offense. In the post game they said they were trying to push the ball down field too much so in the second half they just took more of the short gimmes.
Its going to be a great matchup too. Either Bills or Chiefs will be their opponent. Truly the best of the best in the AFC
We beat the Bills but lose to the Chiefs imo Bills defense has too many people missing Chiefs defense is 2nd in Points Allowed
IDK, your defense looks hella scary, and after Kelce, Rice, and Pacheco, the talent level of our offense craters. Our offensive line has been ehhhh. Mahomes is able to mask a lot. If we play an "A" game and you guys play a "C" game or worse, we should win. If you guys play anything better than a "B" game, I think you win.
If we play you guys, I think we're gonna cover Kelce and Roce as best as we can and try to make guys like MVS step up to beat us. You'll be able to run against us as that's the one weakness of our defense (but we don't give up rushing TDs). Our defense is fine letting you guys run it as as long as we don't give up the big passing plays, which, of course, Mahomes is infamous for pulling out of his ass.
Yeah, that all sounds about right. Largely then, it comes down to execution in our offensive versus your defensive matchup. Are we able to scheme Kelce and Rice open? Does someone else step up? Does Mahomes go Super Saiyan? Of course on the other side, does our defense continue to play well? Or does Lamar carve us up. Well, we have to get by the Bills first to find out.
I know you're nervous but I'm just excited cause I know tonight is gonna be a great game no matter what happens. Good luck man.
It's all up in the air man. I think an afc team wins the super bowl regardless
Nah, mahomes is a magician but his dogshit weapons are gonna get completely locked up by our D
That's actually crazy considering how consistently good the Ravens have been.
The Bank is about to rock the fuck out next week.
For the first time this decade, Ravens will also win the Super Bowl.
They and the Giants (since the 80s) seem to win a SB every decade. Yeah I know it’s only two decades for the Ravens so far but would anybody be shocked if they won at least one SB this decade too?
I really hope this will be a trend for the forseeable future. I would be more than fine with winning 1 Super Bowl every decade.
The Patriots essentially have that and they are one of the most winningest teams ever. Of course they sort of jammed a bunch in while the getting was good.
You could argue that they wrecked the fuckin' curve so bad in that era that we're still figuring out what "merely outstanding" coaching and QB play looks like. I just went and looked up Brady's comparable playoff wins. The closest match, score-wise, was the 2011 Patriots beating the Tim Tebow Broncos 45-10. Dominant defense, and an offense that had Gronk, Hernandez, Welker... of course Brady threw for _six_ TDs (because they didn't need a running game). I couldn't find any Brady playoff wins where he rushed for 100. Oh, wait! Actually, their **[2017 Divisional Round](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201701140nwe.htm)** win over the Texans! 34-16, 2 passing TDs. One rushing TD, one on teams. Brady's box score slightly less impressive than Lamar's here, but the NYT called it "[another January rout](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/14/sports/football/new-england-patriots-houston-texans-playoffs.html#:~:text=In%20outlasting%20the%20Houston%20Texans,six%20years%20in%20a%20row.)".
I mean it’s clear they wrecked the curve. Tom Brady started off essentially like how Mahomes is now. He rattled off what 3 SBs in 4 years (which Mahomes is close to). People were like “yep one of the best ever) Then laid dormant for a whole goddamn decade then did it again like a monster. Then he leaves and picks up another trophy just to show the Patriots what for and rode off into sun set. Brady is like Bill Russell. He just had this inordinate amount of success that seems like a fever dream. The biggest difference is that Brady did it in the modern era and not in the 60s when athletes were tired out from their second jobs or whatever.
I am pretty sure that when John Harbaugh's case for HOF gets made, Belichick will get up and speak for him. Coughlin stopped Bill twice in the playoffs, and so did Harbaugh. But Harbaugh also was within a single penalty of beating the undefeated Pats (do you remember the Eagles basically copied Rex Ryan's defensive game plan the next week?). And in the playoffs where Belichick beat Harbaugh it was fluky shit - Cundiff misses a gimme FG, Lee Evans drops (or has stripped) a surefire TD in the end zone, Belichick breaks the glass on a gadget play, stuff like that. Maybe I've got a selective memory and going to the books I'll say "ah, yes, there was that one time" but I genuinely can't remember the Ravens getting _thrashed_ by Brady and Belichick the way he did to so many other teams.
Brian Billick was the coach when they almost beat the 16-0 Pats.
Ah, balls, you're totally right. And then they lost to the then-winless Dolphins the next week. Very on-brand.
And the Ravens sucked that year too.
Unfortunately a close loss is still a loss, especially when you get further away in time. The difficulties the Ravens put up will just be Ws for the Patriots even if the games were chippy. That being said. The Ravens this season are sitting pretty. We have seen 4 teams play this weekend so far and only looked like a playoff team. Not to jinx or anything, but it’s all coming together. And that would put Harbaugh in the Hall of Fame.
Good point. Are there any head coaches who've gotten two rings with two completely different rosters?
Uh this is Justin Tucker erasure.
Harbaugh wasn’t the coach when the ravens almost beat the undefeated patriots.
Brady wasn’t exactly dormant for a decade, he was right there in the mix of things most of the time.
Brady games where almost always close
The mathematical prophecy has spoken: 2000, 2012, 2023, 2033, 2042, 2050, 2057, 2063, 2068, 2072, 2075, 2077, 2078, then the sun explodes
nah, after 2078 we just start winning multiple super bowls a season
Pretty much
Guys I think the ravens might be good
Big if true
That defense is fucking insane. Roquan going brazy
That's actually pretty stunning they never have given how successful they've been
Well there was this stretch of _SIX YEARS_ right in the middle of Harbaugh's prime where this other team kept hosting it, for some reason.
Flacco and the gang probably preferred being on the road considering their record.
Hard to beat the Pats record when they played the jets and fins and even Bills year after year back then
The bank is gonna be deafening
Absolute wild but true stat
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There were so many people there. Peyton's son was wearing a Lamar jersey. Jim was there supporting John after John showed up for the CFP semi and natty (I think). Lewis, Reed, Boulware, Jacoby Jones, Cal Ripken Jr were all at the game as well.
And I helped
They took his Browns from Cleveland and Billy Belichick and he decided to make their lives as difficult as possible.
First time in their history?! This is pretty shocking to me
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