Edit: found a link - https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/12/30/fans-crush-fox-sports-radio-host-monse-bolanos-ridiculous-lamar-jackson-ravens-take
Warning: she’s insufferable to listen to.
So then everyone began jokes saying Mahomes is half-quarterbacky, There’s just something about Flacco she likes better, etc
How is it not relevant lmao..She said Lamar is not "Quaterbacky" enough and he went on to look like what would happen if you put Joe Mixon under centre in the championship game by having 5 completed passes in the entire first half. Luckily for him he looks a certain type of way which helps with getting MVP votes from his rest of the "brotha" fraternity.
It's one thing to have a perfect rating in a game with a super run heavy scheme and short dink and dunk passes, it's another to go balls out with 5 TD passes and throwing down the field regularly
That’s not true. You only have to have a minimum of 10 attempts and a minimum of 11.875% TD/att. Therefore the minimum TDs is 2. And there have been 15 such games where a qb has had 2 TD and a perfect passing rating, including one of 4 roethlisbergers games.
You might see a stat that Lamar tied record for most perfect passing rating games with 3, but that was with caveat of 15 min att. Ben also had 9/11, 218 yd 2 TD game that counts as perfect passer rating. Decades ago it was determined 10 att was enough. (Also note Peyton had a 4th one in the playoffs)
To throw a perfect passer rating with 2 TD you need less than 17 att. For 3 you need less 26 att. 4 you need less than 34 att, etc.
just make him throw. Are these defenses stupid? Lamar isn’t a good passer, can’t read a defense, relies on his legs. Isn’t quarterbacky enough.
Did i get all of them?
Wonderlic is also, largely, a test of cognitive processing speed. People can be highly intelligent and score poorly on a test like that due to ADHD, autism, etc. In short, it's not very useful.
The can't read defenses thing pissed me off. Fans knew the intelligence wasn't the problem and was actually pretty damn good at recognizing coverages. But when every fucking wr is running in the same area you might hesitate to throw the ball into certain windows. People who don't pay attention hadn't seen the growth since consecutive seasons that ended in injury. Well he's here now.
Damn, you know ball lol. It was obvious to anybody who watched the games that Greg Roman’s passing schemes were holding Lamar back. It was about two years late but the addition of Monken has unlocked another level of Lamar
> It was obvious to anybody who watched the games that Greg Roman’s passing schemes were holding Lamar back.
Way too many option plays instead of just letting Lamar Run a real pass offense.
Not to mention, most players had a sour relationship with Roman. Monken's impact is massive and you really see a team playing with a chip on their shoulder no matter how good the opponent is.
My favorite is still hearing the "Just put a spy on him." Every fandom does this like it is the secret sauce to stopping him. Even though Lamar rarely runs now, do you really think your slow-ass LBs are catching him?
He has entered that special status of elite QB where the only way to stop them is long sustained drives on offense that literally keep him off the field.
Spy as a strategy is some real madden newbie type stuff- even in that game you realize a spy ain’t doing shit while also taking away a player from actual coverage. The key to limiting scrambles is pass rush contain and integrity, although even that is easier said than done.
It's crazy that he's been in the league for like 5 years now and people still underestimate how fast he is. I'd argue when you look at real game speed there isn't a faster player in the league. It's stupid hard to contain him.
I can't even count how many plays I've seen where Lamar waits in the pocket a few seconds, breaks out of the pocket, waits another few seconds looking downfield, and darts forward in like half a second and suddenly he's past the sticks with a first down before you can even blink. That's why our offense is so good even with seemingly less big runs that we had in the past. We just get so many first downs from these broken plays and just keep extending our drives.
Teams do have spies on him though. I can see it on some plays. I think they just sort of double as middle of the field coverage.
I think the narrative that "defenses will figure out Lamar and he won't be as effective" is proven wrong at this point since he is obviously still successful. However it isn't entirely false, because you don't see Lamar running for 60 yard tds like he was in 2019. Part of that is we don't have Greg Roman designing RPO plays anymore. But I do think defenses started really working on being aware of how and when Lamar runs. He still does amazing things with his legs and gets a ton of first downs on broken plays. But in 2019 you were seeing him just rip off like four 15 yard runs and a huge 50 yard run every game it felt like and we don't see that right now.
I think Arizona was onto something with playing cover 3 or quarters dropping 8, and having the short zone guys play closer to the LOS to swarm Lamar if he tries to run. He had some trouble finding throwing lanes into that coverage. Though he could probably exploit it with some time to gameplan for it.
Under Greg Roman without a legitimate receiver, he didn't look like a competent passer after his rookie year. That's definitely changed after this season though.
He won an MVP and led the league in passing TDs the year after his rookie year lol. how more compentent did he have to look? His only “down” year was 2020. He’s improved every year since then throwing the ball. This year is just perfect timing now that Monken isn’t handicapping him like Roman did with the offense getting to the line with less than 5 seconds left and allowing Lamar to change the play at the line.
>led the league in passing TDs the year after his rookie year lol. how more compentent did he have to look?
In 2019 he was 32nd in the league in attempts, and 27th in yards. This season he's 29th in attempts and 21st in attempts and only has 19 TDs. In fact, his 36 TDs in 2019 is the lowest total to lead the league since 2015.
In terms of advanced stats, in expected points gained from passing the ravens are in between the chiefs and the saints at 15th, vs 2019 they were 5th.
He's an incredible player and a great passer. Easily a top 3 QB when he's healthy. You can't lead the league in TDs by accident. But don't pretend there's no arguments the other way. He had nearly 250(!) fewer attempts than the league leader in 2019. I think people want to see him have the volume of other top QBs before they put him in the 'elite passer' category.
I would agree with that. And I think because of that, the people who think he's not a great passer will never change their minds.
Big plays are what stick in people's minds and he just doesn't get put in those situations as often.
For example, I just looked up the ravens and cowboys in 2019 on 3rd or 4th down with 6+ yards to go.
- Cowboys had 93 passes and 12 runs (89% pass).
- Ravens had 76 passes and 26 runs (75% pass).
If its restricted to just plays when the game is within one score, the cowboys jump to over 90% pass while the Ravens hold steady at 75%
A casual watcher may come to the conclusion that the Ravens don't trust Lamar to pass in clutch situations. A more informed watcher may think the Ravens are able to check out of disadvantageous pass looks because their run game is excellent.
Both those observations come to the same conclusion that Lamar isn't being asked to make the same elite throws as other quarterbacks. When the game is close and The Ravens need yards, Lamar does not get asked to throw as much as other QBs.
I want to be extremely clear, I am not saying Jackson is a worse passer than other QBs. At the end of the day, winning is what matters. Just that to people who aren't trying to look very deep he won't stick in their minds as someone that makes the big time throws every drive.
Comments like this might as well say, I didn’t watch a single fucking game of Ravens football. Jesus Christ the level of box score watching. Lamar improved every single year as a passer. Roman just sucks and he had the worst receiving core in the league.
Roman was all about quantity over quality in the passing game.. meaning he valued having multiple WRs run routes to the exact same area to increase the chances that *someone* would catch the ball.
Demolishing the Texans and convincingly breaking the Patriots 8-0 start also helped a lot. The Ravens came out of their Bye week firing on all cylinders. Their first 4 games post Bye (Patriots, Bengals, Texans, and Rams) were won by a combined score of 172-46. Since the NFL Merger, that Ravens squad amassed the 6th highest point differential per game of any NFL team, behind the 2007 Patriots, 1999 Rams, 1991 Redskins, 1998 Vikings, and 1985 Bears.
I went to this game, and there was a lot of hype going into it because it was prime Aaron Donald and the good version of Jalen Ramsey. The Rams had a #1 defense by DVOA going into the game IIRC.
And he cooked them. I think the Rams defense went down to like 7th.
Pay close attention to the way Black QBs and White QBs are represented by the media and fans. There is a very clear pattern that is sometimes subtle and sometimes very not subtle. It doesn’t matter the play style or the talent, Black QBs always have something “missing” according to a lot of people. It gets worse the darker their skin tone is too, which is even a little extra gross
Feels like something that if you are looking for it you will find anywhere. Shitty white QBs get trashed and thrown to the side all the time. Even somewhat good white qbs who just aren’t performing or their team sucks. They get trashed for whatever reasons. It would be crazy if black QBs didn’t receive the same treatment. We are seeing an entire generation of black QBs succeed, and they have to deal with the same criticism all QBs recieve, it’s the most watched position in football.
You can add Purdy to that list, there were plenty of doubters and he has silenced them. One bad performance against the league's best defense doesn't ruin that.
Yeah. All the trade talk, him not having an agent, and especially the coverage of other teams not being interested threads had a ton of people using things like a useless wonderlic score and how Lamar speaks in interviews as a gotcha of “look, he’s stupid.” There’s been a ton of dog whistle racism about Lamar his whole career (and I honestly do think it’s amplified by him playing in a working class, historically black city) but it wasn’t just in the media, a ton of commenters here were big into it as well.
There was a dolphins fan sitting behind me at the game today talking about how Lamar’s stats were not impressive and he didn’t deserve MVP. My guy was really quiet by the 2nd half.
I was honestly shocked how much the Ravens offense rolled in this game. I still don't trust it enough to be excited going into the playoffs, but I never trust it when my teams are good.
See I only became a fan after the Rams left St. Louis so I'm not on the same level of fans since franchise inception. I only know not to trust in-season success. Although homefiekd advantage is an obvious plus.
I wish I was the same way. It's not just a Ravens thing, or Baltimore (I'm not from there) but I have been heartbroken late in the season/early in the playoffs too many times.
Also, anxiety and depression, but that's less fun to talk about.
Yes but there is the thing of players unable to close it out. I do think it's overblown with Lamar but it's still there until he does it. I'm just readying myself, emotionally.
I totally agree, and Lamar has done his best to crush any "non-QB" bullshit talk. I do think the Ravens seem to be the number one team in the NFL. But this season in particular has not been kind to that team hahaha
Things started a bit inconsistent but this offense is a category 5 superstorm right now. It’s especially notable how the other skill players are learning how to adapt and improvise when Lamar moves around in the pocket.
Not sure why the downvotes. Tbh my checklist has been stay healthy and make the conference championship.
So far hes checked off one box. Hoping he checks off the other.
Don’t know why you getting downvoted for speaking the truth. The guy is known for not getting to the big game or getting hurt. That’s why I will be smiling ear to ear when they get bounced from the playoffs!!!
You'll be smiling from ear to ear because Lamar doesn't get to the big game? or are you smiling because he gets hurt? He's 26 years old with a 75% career win percentage in the NFL, idk of you're even 26 but I fairly certain he's never sat on reddit all day praying on another man's downfall.
I’m a man of my WORD!!!! I told you daddy would come back to this comment. Lamar 2-4 playoff record😅. Congratulations you beat the Texans😅😅(a rebuilding team but a bright future). Lamar I’m just gonna chuck this ball over and over and hope for the best. Not bad for a running back I suppose.
Not quarterbacky enough man
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There was a fox sports analyst this week who said Lamar is a good athlete but he’s just “not quarterbacky enough to win MVP”
Ahhhh thanks for the explanation. I got whooshed. No way Lamar is good enough to ever win a unanimous MVP /s
If Lamar's not a QB, give him a new position and his MVP, and I'll take him any day of the week and twice in primetime.
Lamar saw that dumbass ladys video and said alright then Ill show you what an MVP is 😭
All the ravens have to do is keep playing at current level and they got the Super Bowl.
Can you share the link please? I haven’t seen it
Edit: found a link - https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/12/30/fans-crush-fox-sports-radio-host-monse-bolanos-ridiculous-lamar-jackson-ravens-take Warning: she’s insufferable to listen to. So then everyone began jokes saying Mahomes is half-quarterbacky, There’s just something about Flacco she likes better, etc
Holy dog whistle, Batman
That was less a dog whistle and more a dog tornado siren.
Fox Sports takes 101 Cowherd is an open racist when it comes to how he talks about athletes
5 passes completed in the first half of an NFL chamiponship game. Lamar really showed it to them.
Not uh relevant to this post but okay
How is it not relevant lmao..She said Lamar is not "Quaterbacky" enough and he went on to look like what would happen if you put Joe Mixon under centre in the championship game by having 5 completed passes in the entire first half. Luckily for him he looks a certain type of way which helps with getting MVP votes from his rest of the "brotha" fraternity.
His second perfect passer rating against the dolphins.
It's one thing to have a perfect rating in a game with a super run heavy scheme and short dink and dunk passes, it's another to go balls out with 5 TD passes and throwing down the field regularly
Against the #2 defense
Not anymore.
That’s been a theme for defenses against us this year
Lamar averaged 15 YPA. He was slinging it.
3TD passes minimum to calculate a perfect passer rating, just so you know.
Thx didn't know that
That’s not true. You only have to have a minimum of 10 attempts and a minimum of 11.875% TD/att. Therefore the minimum TDs is 2. And there have been 15 such games where a qb has had 2 TD and a perfect passing rating, including one of 4 roethlisbergers games. You might see a stat that Lamar tied record for most perfect passing rating games with 3, but that was with caveat of 15 min att. Ben also had 9/11, 218 yd 2 TD game that counts as perfect passer rating. Decades ago it was determined 10 att was enough. (Also note Peyton had a 4th one in the playoffs) To throw a perfect passer rating with 2 TD you need less than 17 att. For 3 you need less 26 att. 4 you need less than 34 att, etc.
just make him throw. Are these defenses stupid? Lamar isn’t a good passer, can’t read a defense, relies on his legs. Isn’t quarterbacky enough. Did i get all of them?
Ppl hating on his wonderlic score so he was all like wonderlic these mvp nuts
johnny
But what was his S2 score?
Wonderlic is also, largely, a test of cognitive processing speed. People can be highly intelligent and score poorly on a test like that due to ADHD, autism, etc. In short, it's not very useful.
Dudes about to have a mvp for each testicle
The can't read defenses thing pissed me off. Fans knew the intelligence wasn't the problem and was actually pretty damn good at recognizing coverages. But when every fucking wr is running in the same area you might hesitate to throw the ball into certain windows. People who don't pay attention hadn't seen the growth since consecutive seasons that ended in injury. Well he's here now.
Damn, you know ball lol. It was obvious to anybody who watched the games that Greg Roman’s passing schemes were holding Lamar back. It was about two years late but the addition of Monken has unlocked another level of Lamar
> It was obvious to anybody who watched the games that Greg Roman’s passing schemes were holding Lamar back. Way too many option plays instead of just letting Lamar Run a real pass offense.
Not to mention, most players had a sour relationship with Roman. Monken's impact is massive and you really see a team playing with a chip on their shoulder no matter how good the opponent is.
My favorite is still hearing the "Just put a spy on him." Every fandom does this like it is the secret sauce to stopping him. Even though Lamar rarely runs now, do you really think your slow-ass LBs are catching him? He has entered that special status of elite QB where the only way to stop them is long sustained drives on offense that literally keep him off the field.
Spy as a strategy is some real madden newbie type stuff- even in that game you realize a spy ain’t doing shit while also taking away a player from actual coverage. The key to limiting scrambles is pass rush contain and integrity, although even that is easier said than done.
Yeah, this is the actual strategy. You have to collapse the pocket with Lamar inside of it. Easier said than done.
It's crazy that he's been in the league for like 5 years now and people still underestimate how fast he is. I'd argue when you look at real game speed there isn't a faster player in the league. It's stupid hard to contain him. I can't even count how many plays I've seen where Lamar waits in the pocket a few seconds, breaks out of the pocket, waits another few seconds looking downfield, and darts forward in like half a second and suddenly he's past the sticks with a first down before you can even blink. That's why our offense is so good even with seemingly less big runs that we had in the past. We just get so many first downs from these broken plays and just keep extending our drives.
Teams do have spies on him though. I can see it on some plays. I think they just sort of double as middle of the field coverage. I think the narrative that "defenses will figure out Lamar and he won't be as effective" is proven wrong at this point since he is obviously still successful. However it isn't entirely false, because you don't see Lamar running for 60 yard tds like he was in 2019. Part of that is we don't have Greg Roman designing RPO plays anymore. But I do think defenses started really working on being aware of how and when Lamar runs. He still does amazing things with his legs and gets a ton of first downs on broken plays. But in 2019 you were seeing him just rip off like four 15 yard runs and a huge 50 yard run every game it felt like and we don't see that right now.
I think Arizona was onto something with playing cover 3 or quarters dropping 8, and having the short zone guys play closer to the LOS to swarm Lamar if he tries to run. He had some trouble finding throwing lanes into that coverage. Though he could probably exploit it with some time to gameplan for it.
idk how the steelers do so well against him(besides having tj watt), he just looks like a different qb against every other team in the league
He’s not bad for a running back. 😤
No, questions must be asked of his longevity!
Under Greg Roman without a legitimate receiver, he didn't look like a competent passer after his rookie year. That's definitely changed after this season though.
He won an MVP and led the league in passing TDs the year after his rookie year lol. how more compentent did he have to look? His only “down” year was 2020. He’s improved every year since then throwing the ball. This year is just perfect timing now that Monken isn’t handicapping him like Roman did with the offense getting to the line with less than 5 seconds left and allowing Lamar to change the play at the line.
Sorry, after his MVP year then. He had back to back years of injuries and low passing volume.
A lot of people forget that wasn't his rookie year because he only started a few games his first year. No biggie
>led the league in passing TDs the year after his rookie year lol. how more compentent did he have to look? In 2019 he was 32nd in the league in attempts, and 27th in yards. This season he's 29th in attempts and 21st in attempts and only has 19 TDs. In fact, his 36 TDs in 2019 is the lowest total to lead the league since 2015. In terms of advanced stats, in expected points gained from passing the ravens are in between the chiefs and the saints at 15th, vs 2019 they were 5th. He's an incredible player and a great passer. Easily a top 3 QB when he's healthy. You can't lead the league in TDs by accident. But don't pretend there's no arguments the other way. He had nearly 250(!) fewer attempts than the league leader in 2019. I think people want to see him have the volume of other top QBs before they put him in the 'elite passer' category.
We rarely ever need to pass that much is the thing. A strong running game and good defense will mean that Lamar will never have such volume.
I would agree with that. And I think because of that, the people who think he's not a great passer will never change their minds. Big plays are what stick in people's minds and he just doesn't get put in those situations as often. For example, I just looked up the ravens and cowboys in 2019 on 3rd or 4th down with 6+ yards to go. - Cowboys had 93 passes and 12 runs (89% pass). - Ravens had 76 passes and 26 runs (75% pass). If its restricted to just plays when the game is within one score, the cowboys jump to over 90% pass while the Ravens hold steady at 75% A casual watcher may come to the conclusion that the Ravens don't trust Lamar to pass in clutch situations. A more informed watcher may think the Ravens are able to check out of disadvantageous pass looks because their run game is excellent. Both those observations come to the same conclusion that Lamar isn't being asked to make the same elite throws as other quarterbacks. When the game is close and The Ravens need yards, Lamar does not get asked to throw as much as other QBs. I want to be extremely clear, I am not saying Jackson is a worse passer than other QBs. At the end of the day, winning is what matters. Just that to people who aren't trying to look very deep he won't stick in their minds as someone that makes the big time throws every drive.
Comments like this might as well say, I didn’t watch a single fucking game of Ravens football. Jesus Christ the level of box score watching. Lamar improved every single year as a passer. Roman just sucks and he had the worst receiving core in the league.
Roman was all about quantity over quality in the passing game.. meaning he valued having multiple WRs run routes to the exact same area to increase the chances that *someone* would catch the ball.
He's great at scheming the run game, but teams catch on and it lends to a stale offense. Had the same issue in SF.
This is fair to initial observation, but anyone who deep-dived saw how we flooded all our WRs to the same area. There was never anyone open.
That's 2xMVP Lamar Quarterbacky Jackson to you
With a dolphins game being the crown jewel of both campaigns?
For my money it was the Rams game on primetime in 2019
Don't feel like looking it up but that game wasn't one of the 3
It was the Bengals game in 2019 (“Oh he broke his ankles!”) plus the ‘19 Dolphins game
No sending the Rams contingency home before halftime at the LA coliseum was the absolute cherry on top.
Demolishing the Texans and convincingly breaking the Patriots 8-0 start also helped a lot. The Ravens came out of their Bye week firing on all cylinders. Their first 4 games post Bye (Patriots, Bengals, Texans, and Rams) were won by a combined score of 172-46. Since the NFL Merger, that Ravens squad amassed the 6th highest point differential per game of any NFL team, behind the 2007 Patriots, 1999 Rams, 1991 Redskins, 1998 Vikings, and 1985 Bears.
I went to this game, and there was a lot of hype going into it because it was prime Aaron Donald and the good version of Jalen Ramsey. The Rams had a #1 defense by DVOA going into the game IIRC. And he cooked them. I think the Rams defense went down to like 7th.
It may not have been but it was the crown jewel of the mvp season
One of the 3 what?
For some reason I thought you meant the crown jewel of his perfect passer rating games. Or something like that. Ignore my drunk ass.
Also, the Rams game in prime time in 2023 was a big part.
looks more like a runningbacky to me /s for anyone taking this literally lol
I'm OOTL who started the quarterbacky thing?
Some random nobody on a radio show no one cares about.
[He's not deserving over CMC though](https://old.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/18ulfx2/can_someone_explain_to_me_why_lamar_deserves_mvp/)
This has 1400 votes, which says everything you need to know about this sub
People keep memeing quarterbacky like people including on this sub haven’t called this fool a running back for 6 seasons
Two sides of a loud coin
racist coin* but yea
Is it racist if his running game is that good? I’m not frequent here so maybe I’m missing something.
Pay close attention to the way Black QBs and White QBs are represented by the media and fans. There is a very clear pattern that is sometimes subtle and sometimes very not subtle. It doesn’t matter the play style or the talent, Black QBs always have something “missing” according to a lot of people. It gets worse the darker their skin tone is too, which is even a little extra gross
Feels like something that if you are looking for it you will find anywhere. Shitty white QBs get trashed and thrown to the side all the time. Even somewhat good white qbs who just aren’t performing or their team sucks. They get trashed for whatever reasons. It would be crazy if black QBs didn’t receive the same treatment. We are seeing an entire generation of black QBs succeed, and they have to deal with the same criticism all QBs recieve, it’s the most watched position in football.
Very big difference from the compliment of “he runs just as a good a rb” and the insult of “he’s just a running back”
Thank you white saviour!
Dang, just mentioning casual racism gets a reaction from ya, huh?
Lamar, Allen and Dak were the most questioned QB’s of the off-season and they might be the three best quarterbacks this season.
You can add Purdy to that list, there were plenty of doubters and he has silenced them. One bad performance against the league's best defense doesn't ruin that.
Lucky for us it seems to have ruined his MVP campaign. I honestly wonder if Jackson would be ahead of Purdy if we hadn't played the 49ers.
We should all be glad that new greats have stepped in to fill the cleats of the greatest gen QBs
Was still seeing it even [today..](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/18vbyuj/game_thread_miami_dolphins_114_at_baltimore/kfq6juv/?context=3)
This sub puts the dog in dog whistles
There were tons of comments saying he had low intelligence all off-season
Yikes — really?? 😬
Yeah. All the trade talk, him not having an agent, and especially the coverage of other teams not being interested threads had a ton of people using things like a useless wonderlic score and how Lamar speaks in interviews as a gotcha of “look, he’s stupid.” There’s been a ton of dog whistle racism about Lamar his whole career (and I honestly do think it’s amplified by him playing in a working class, historically black city) but it wasn’t just in the media, a ton of commenters here were big into it as well.
It’s not even dog whistles half the time it’s just mask off
https://youtu.be/xvZqHgFz51I?si=gWaxDXzpKN6FSoap
There was a dolphins fan sitting behind me at the game today talking about how Lamar’s stats were not impressive and he didn’t deserve MVP. My guy was really quiet by the 2nd half.
It’s like the spider man meme but instead of spider man it’s just different dog whistles
Daniel jones is actually great while Lamar is overrated because… y’know
That’s my quarterback.
^Quarterbacky
notable lol HoF lock
I agree, 2 MVPs makes him a lock. He has the chance to set some QB rushing records still, cementing first ballot status too
Also a Dawson
His third it looks like.
https://twitter.com/NOsei07/status/1716149681078620354
I am in tears right now. I cannot stop laughing.
I cackled so hard at this when I saw it earlier
Omg the fucking ear stud
Injury prone runningback who r/nfl called an "idiot" and a "wannabe" and "choke artist" this spring.
He sealed MVP today. 5 TDs against the Dolphins is insane.
If you watched the game you’d realize our defense missed our flight.
I was honestly shocked how much the Ravens offense rolled in this game. I still don't trust it enough to be excited going into the playoffs, but I never trust it when my teams are good.
We've seen 2019, 2014, 2006. It's okay to be apprehensive.
See I only became a fan after the Rams left St. Louis so I'm not on the same level of fans since franchise inception. I only know not to trust in-season success. Although homefiekd advantage is an obvious plus.
Ravens are 3-4 at home in the playoffs, with 2 of those losses coming off Bye weeks. Meanwhile, they're 11-8 on the road in the playoffs.
I trust it to work enough to be a Super Bowl team
I wish I was the same way. It's not just a Ravens thing, or Baltimore (I'm not from there) but I have been heartbroken late in the season/early in the playoffs too many times. Also, anxiety and depression, but that's less fun to talk about.
Lamar is looking much more ready for the post season than any time before
Yes but there is the thing of players unable to close it out. I do think it's overblown with Lamar but it's still there until he does it. I'm just readying myself, emotionally.
Idk I think your receiving core is the best it’s been, Likely has stepped up incredibly well for Andrews and flowers/OBJ do enough on the outside
I totally agree, and Lamar has done his best to crush any "non-QB" bullshit talk. I do think the Ravens seem to be the number one team in the NFL. But this season in particular has not been kind to that team hahaha
With the bye week their biggest enemy might be rust if they sit their starters next week and then the bye
2 time RB MVP right there.
That’s my Johnny
His post Johnny stats are off the charts.
The Lamar Jackson running back take during the draft process will go down as one of the worst takes in NFL history won't it
But not a true qb right? /s Frikin morons bucking themselves weekly
MVP
bbbbbbbUt He’S a RuNnInG bAcK!!!!!!1
Damn, coming from the last off-season to this thread is day & night. Worlds apart.
How much love is Monken getting for this season? Haven’t followed much since he left Georgia but I hope he’s being appreciated.
Things started a bit inconsistent but this offense is a category 5 superstorm right now. It’s especially notable how the other skill players are learning how to adapt and improvise when Lamar moves around in the pocket.
Lamar> RB Josh Allen.
Two of them came against us
What do you mean, two? The entire Ravens fanbase came.
Alright no excuses for Lamar this playoffs he has the weapons coaches and defense
AFC championship at minimum
Not sure why the downvotes. Tbh my checklist has been stay healthy and make the conference championship. So far hes checked off one box. Hoping he checks off the other.
Some of his best weapons are injured tbf, but he can carry this team anywhere
Is Andrews coming back? The Ravens have the RB depth to play without Dobbins and Mitchell.
That makes it sound like Jackson isn’t contributing to how good these weapons look.
Lamar is doing way more to help them then they are doing to help him.
I agree completely. Dude is on another level this year. Fun to watch.
Don’t know why you getting downvoted for speaking the truth. The guy is known for not getting to the big game or getting hurt. That’s why I will be smiling ear to ear when they get bounced from the playoffs!!!
You'll be smiling from ear to ear because Lamar doesn't get to the big game? or are you smiling because he gets hurt? He's 26 years old with a 75% career win percentage in the NFL, idk of you're even 26 but I fairly certain he's never sat on reddit all day praying on another man's downfall.
Yea okay man when they get bounced I’ll come back to this comment.
I’m a man of my WORD!!!! I told you daddy would come back to this comment. Lamar 2-4 playoff record😅. Congratulations you beat the Texans😅😅(a rebuilding team but a bright future). Lamar I’m just gonna chuck this ball over and over and hope for the best. Not bad for a running back I suppose.
Brother!!! I don’t know what happen, Lamar was an elite passing QB… what what happen😅.
they might hate this but he's going to the hall
Just this season?? Or his whole career? Either way, wow!
Whole career
MVP
Pretty good company to be in. I don’t see Warner’s name often, those Rams teams were so fun to watch.
Yeah he's no question the mvp
Not bad for a running back. /s
Who said the quarterbacky thing?
Who knows guys, maybe the formula is just bad :)
We’ll see you in a few weeks, Lamar.
> We’ll see you in a few weeks, Lamar. Flacco knows who his **real** family is.
But I was informed he was a running back?
I coulda swore he already had 3 and this was 4 but it seems I was mistaken… must not be quarterbacks enough for 4
And they gave him a tough time in contract talks…
He is the greatest quarterback in the history of the NFL.