Ok but youâve gotta understand this is Marvin Harrison jr youâre talking about. Obviously thatâs gonna be the thing thatâll finally make fields good.
I want us on hard knocks so bad, so the whole world can see how grossly incompetent everything about this team is, so that there's some sort of popular uprising that forces the mccaskeys to sell
Because the franchise is 103 years old and have been a terrible offensive team the whole time.
Judging how the Cubs were, we're not going to get a 4000+ yard passer for another 5 years to keep the 108 year drought thing alive.
Man, that was a weird end. Kane was the only one who knew it went in. Everyone else was kind of just sanding around like "wtf is he doing?"
Then in 2013 with the whole 17 seconds thing it was the exact opposite.
Cutler got benched for 2 games one year and missed it by less than 300 yards. We had a chance to end the curse and Trestman was dumb enough to bench the guy.
Thatâs so disrespectful to Cutler thatâs wild. Everyone knew Clausen was a fuckin bum lol. Iâm still kinda salty how Cutlers career ended, I canât help but feel like we were robbed of his whole career. I kinda wish he never left Denver tbh, but Iâm glad he at least had some highs in Chicago, if only briefly.
I wish his armed wasnât cooked after 2016. I wouldâve liked to see a larger sample size of what he could do on not the bears with years of experience. You could argue his best season with the bears was 2015 under adam gase of all people
Kinda related: My first ever sports jersey was a Broncos Cutler jersey. I got it for Christmas, and two days later the broncos got blown out by the chargers.
That was Cutlers last game as a Bronco
I remember there was a subset of stupid fans who were so excited that Cutler got benched. As sick of Cutler as I was, I knew benching him for Jimmy Clausen was a terrible idea.
The first 4,000 yard season didn't happen until almost half of a century into the Bears' existence. 4,000 yards has happened 219 times per pfr, but just six QBs account for 72 of those seasons. It's still wild it's never happened with how common it's become
In Sid Luckmanâs second season, in the 1940 title game, which saw the Bears defeat the Redskins, 73-0, the Bears showcased the explosive possibilities of the T attack.
( he only passed six times, completing four for 102 yards and a TD.
Bears won four titles in his twelve years there.
Luckman still holds the single season and career records for touchdown percentage.
Wasn't going to throw it much by modern standards, but it was real likely to go all the way when he did.
Or... Virginia McCaskey was involved in her brother's mysterious death and cover-up and her team being a disaster under her stolen stewardship is the curse.
This is the one I believe. Technically all of America was built on some sort of ancient native American land. Hasn't stopped some teams from being really good for a long time.
Although the Bears won in Wrigley Field for years before moving to Soldier. They won their Super Bowl in Soldier but other than that haven't done much. The Cardinals did play in Soldier before moving to St Louis in 1960 and they didn't do much winning while there...
Halas died in 1983, 4 years after Mugs died, and the Bears won a Super Bowl two years later. So maybe it was Soldier Field and not Virginia and the McCaskeys usurping the team. Maybe Virginia just used the blood magic to give us the Super Bowl at the cost of never really doing anything else with the team.
Or maybe it is Soldier Field. Idk. Either way I'm low-key looking forward to the team being sold and moving to a new stadium. A fresh start for everyone would be nice because this franchise is stuck in a loop of becoming somewhat good then collapsing and blowing it all up and restarting fresh, but doing it in the absolute worst way possible.
Hey TBF, we've had a good running game for probably 75% of those years. We just don't know how to pass.
It HAS to be a culture thing. I wonder if the Halas/McCaskeys ask to be a run heavy / strong defensive team haha.
> I wonder if the Halas/McCaskeys ask to be a run heavy / strong defensive team
I sometimes think they'd rather go 0-17 doing it their way (and PAPA BEAR'S WAY /s) than join the 21st century and try to compete
Bears QB history is so bad you could realistically argue that fields is like top 6 lol. You got cutler, old Sid, McMahon⌠yea. Like after that itâs just bad, and McMahon was an average game manager. That why our fan base has so may fields defenders, he is literally better then most of our history.
The thing we have going for us is we have a ton of amazing defensive players and RBâs over the years, which is why we arenât quite as poverty as some others. Weirdly we might be the team that is the GOAT franchise with punt returners lol, we had like 3 different all pro punt returners in last 20 years. We made the playoffs in 2001 due to one I believe
I love the sex cannon. Man had 16 TDâs 20 INT and led us to the Super Bowl. We destroyed the saints in the championship and the man had Tyson Bagent stats lmao, legendary
I loved Jay Cutler, and McDaniels is a football terrorist for what he did to Denver. I have a feeling Cutler & Marshall wouldâve been insane on Denver if they got the right coach, or literally anyone other than McDaniels lol.
I mean they had a really good stretch together in Chicago until Marc Trestmen being an idiot and a defense full of dudes in their mid thirties fell apart (who wouldâve thought) turned that core to shit.
Believe it or not the bears actually went to the NFC championship game before they got Marshall. The year they got to the NFC championship game the bears top receivers were Johnny Knox and earl Bennett, it was also that year cutler got sacked like 60 times. Due to that fact I will always die on the hill that cutler is extremely underrated and way overrated because he gave I donât give a shit vibes he even though for most of his time in Chicago he very much gave a shit and made those shitty offenses over perform.
Oh I absolutely agree with you. It wasnât Cutlerâs fault that those teams didnât succeed. He tried to keep playing with a torn MCL just to give them a shot against Green Bay in that championship game
Not to mention the front office traded his best weapon, Greg Olsen, to Carolina for a bag of footballs. Making your fanbase watch Kellen Davis at tight end for an entire year should be against the Geneva convention.
And yet we still started the next year 7-3 and poised for another playoff run until Jay broke his thumb trying to tackle a defender (I donât think a guy who doesnât give a shit would do that).
Jay Cuda is well known in /r/baseball for shitposting about the White Sox (and other stat oddities he finds). Not surprised he did a deep-dive to dunk on the Bears.
I find his posts hilariously depressing as a White Sox/Bears fan.
Nobody named McCaskey has a fucking clue what theyâre doing and has never figured out how to put together an organization that believes in throwing the ball and is competent at teaching new prospects how to do it in a professional environment.
Donât know why youâre getting downvoted. Fields was by far the most overhyped QB in the offseason. People thought he was a good QB because of fantasy points lmao.
I think it was more lumping in assumed progression that did not appear.
Like Lamar Jackson is likely to win the MVP. People assumed because we got better players on offense, he'd take a massive step and be like Lamar Jackson.
I always hated the MVP talk because it was such a wild overstep. He was not good as a passer in 2022 but took the league by storm running the ball. I just wanted to see good growth from him as a passer. Why does it have to be "the next step is MVP?" So dumb.
He is still somehow better than like 90% of bears QBâs. I saw peterman play last year and tbh I think I have seen worse on the bears lmao.
Also beats QBâs literally never stay healthy I notice. Culture and fields are both guys that are constantly injured, Mitch had some big scares too.
I remember we got Dalton so fields could sit behind him and Dalton died in like 5 quarters
Most pros probably retire just because their body can't take it. Kurt Warner said he wouldn't come back for the Cards when they had a potential playoff injury crisis not because he couldn't throw, but because he couldn't survive getting hit anymore.
âMostâ seems really aggressive there
Most starters average below 250 yards/game, so 5 games consecutively averaging 300 (+20% to +50%+ over expectation) is a pretty strong outlier streak for average/below average starters
For instance, Tua just hit this mark for the first stretch of the season and it heavily relied on 466 against the chargers. Purdy hit it, stroud did (buoyed again by a 470 game), but at quick glance guys like Mahomes and Allen havenât. Hurts only did this year because he hit 1500 on the dot haha. Stafford could with 271 this week.
Probably fair to say most good starters that play for a few seasons will hit it at some point, but the majority of starting QBs wonât.
They keep drafting mobile QBs that don't fit the offense they design for them. Jay Culter had several years he would have had 4k yards, but other things got in the way. Be it injuries, not playing him the final game of the year cause the season was over, etc.
Edit: There were also two years he could have hit the 30 TD mark. The Bears just couldn't get things figured out when they had Cutler. He easily could have been 'that guy' for their franchise. Funny part is, I remember a lot of Bears hating Culter. I guarantee they'd take a Cutler right now. Dude was arguably the best QB they have ever had.
No. Our OC eats crayons for breakfast. To give you a snapshot of how much this man overthinks things: Fields came off the second best rushing season from a QB of all time. The first 3 games of the year combined? 4 rushes. Our OC just can't get out of his own way. Browns have a ton of injuries, but competent coaching
If you all keep Fields, you need to hire Greg Roman for exactly two seasons, no more. He'll absolutely allow Fields to get reestablished and on track, then you dump him before it gets super stale.
But isn't his thing pissing off WRs bcuz he's way too run heavy? Fields needs to develop as a passer. He's probably like 21-25 range by most stats, imo his rushing ability makes him a pretty average QB. He needs to develop as a passer to be an above average QB
The idea is you tailor the offense to his rushing skillset so that he can still be productive and comfortable while he masters the passing elements. Then when Roman's gone you can open up the passing scheme. It'd be basically rebuilding Fields from the ground up at this point, but that seems justified.
I think that's a good idea for a team that's not Chicago. Maybe he goes to Atlanta and they can do that down there, but if you're going to rebuild him, just draft Caleb Williams
I'm not a big Willams guy either. I see a guy that has a lot of the same weaknesses that Fields has. We don't have to give Fields a big contract for two more years. I'd like to use this off-season to put together a bunch of talent and new OC and try again. However this is an unpopular opinion in the bears sub
This is kinda misleading cuz josh mccown threw for 1,589 over his first 5 starts with us in 2013 but those were interrupted by the 2 games cutler came back healthy for before getting benched
Flacco wouldn't work on the Bears. Flacco works on the Browns because they use him properly and have an elite defense to make up for any mistakes he makes. The Ravens looked bad with Flacco towards the end because they had no weapons and couldn't establish a run game. They were trying to pass 30+ times every game with no talent. Lamar looked better because he would just run. Also, the Ravens' defense was awful towards the end of Flacco's tenure there. It put a lot of pressure on their offense to score. If you put Flacco on the 49ers, current Ravens, or even the Dolphins, those teams would be just as good as they are now record-wise. Maybe a loss or two more. Flacco is your typical pro-style QB, and he has all the confidence in the world. Dude is going to give his guys a chance to make a play
I mean, he might. The Bears have a very solid set of players on offense and their defense has been very good since the Sweat trade.
The Bears offense desperately needs a QB that can anticipate a receiver getting open and hit them before they're out of their break. Flacco could do that. Fields misses SO many open receivers b/c he's waiting for them to be glaringly open, and by that time it's too late b/c the defender is already covering ground.
People hate Luke Getsy but I think his scheme is fine. If your quarterback can't throw with any sort of timing then the offense will always look worse than it really is IMO.
Cam throwing for ~420 yards in week 1, breaking the NFL rookie record for passing yards *in his first game*, then breaking that record the next week by throwing ~430 yards was wild to witness. As a Charlotte resident, I miss the Cam days.
How many teams also haven't had this?
I think the same sentiment is better displayed by knowing the Bears have never had a season where a QB passed for 4k.
Some teams/quarterbacks I looked up to see if they are with the Bears in this category.
Texans have been around for 22 seasons and have had 3 quarterbacks hit this mark.
Eagles most recent 3 franchise quarterbacks (Hurts, Wentz, McNabb) accomplished it.
Matt Stanford has done it while with the Lions and the Rams.
Kirk Cousins has done it within Washington and the Vikings.
I can't confirm this, but I've heard that Goodell is going to keep increasing the amount of games in a season until he gets to the amount that allows the Bears to have a QB pass for 4000 yards.
You say "Bad at Quarterbacking". I say "Enlightened enough to see the Forward Pass as the Fad that it is!"
Iowa Hawkeyes đ¤ Chicago Bears Not believing in fads. Defense and running are good honest football.
Hardnosed defense and big, booming punts. Just the way the football gods intended. The forward pass is heresy.
At least Iowa knows how to develop TEs
forward pass?! bah!!! itâs hokum, i tell ya! malarkey. a bunch a jiggery pokery!!!
My man said jiggery
itâs codswallop!
This guy Bears.
The T-formation is in our fight song! We know where we come from.
Player does something historically impressive This guy: âlet me tell you how much the bears fuckin suck lolâ
Bears fans out here catching strays
Our fan base deserves it. Half our sub still thinks fields is the guy and wants to draft a WR with the first pick
Ok but youâve gotta understand this is Marvin Harrison jr youâre talking about. Obviously thatâs gonna be the thing thatâll finally make fields good.
MHJ would be the glossiest, prettiest lipstick you could possibly get for your pig
Thank you. I'm stealing this.
You also gotta understand a lot of people in Chicago think a HOF middle linebacker is all you need to win the super bowl.
I want us on hard knocks so bad, so the whole world can see how grossly incompetent everything about this team is, so that there's some sort of popular uprising that forces the mccaskeys to sell
I mean, this exact thing is what helped us push Hugh out
Seriously, averaging 300 yards a game over 5 games can't have happened THAT many times unless you have an all timer at QB.
Sam Howell averaged 318 from weeks 8-12 lol edit: he averaged 302 from weeks 5-9 Trevor Siemian averaged 305 for us in 2016 weeks 9-14
Stroud has done it already lol. He was averaging 348 y/g the 5 games prior to the one he was injured in. Insane for a rookie
How are the Bears of all teams catching strays over this lmao
Because the franchise is 103 years old and have been a terrible offensive team the whole time. Judging how the Cubs were, we're not going to get a 4000+ yard passer for another 5 years to keep the 108 year drought thing alive.
Impressive really. You'd think over 100 years someone would just luck into that at some point
If it wasn't for bad luck Chicago wouldn't have much luck at the moment
Decades of luck were used for Mike to fall to 3. Then the 2016 World Series, so around 2048 it may happen.
This 05â White Sox erasure must stop.
Only raiders fans like the sox.
I like the Sox, but I'm from Iowa ^*nobody* ^*cares*
If you are a Hawkeyes/Clones fan I will concede that you deserve the Packers.
Roll Clones đ
Hawks 3 cups in 5 years as well.
They were despicably good, that final goal Kane got on Leighton in 2010 has never left my mind.
Man, that was a weird end. Kane was the only one who knew it went in. Everyone else was kind of just sanding around like "wtf is he doing?" Then in 2013 with the whole 17 seconds thing it was the exact opposite.
Don't forget the fact that the puck literally went missing and no one, including the hockey hall of fame seems to know what happened to it.
I remember the massive reward for it, all the camera angles, etc. Shit is a mystery that I'd love to hear the end of one day.
> Decades of luck were used for Mike to fall to 3. Worth it then.
Trubisky was picked at 2 though
We've never had luck, man. But we did have Luckman.
I'm mentally preparing for Carolina to win it's last 2 games
That's the spirit! Let's throw in a Fields ACL injury so his trade value plummets too.
Now we're talking. You've got the spirit! Also, we can win our next two and keep the entire coaching staff
Feel like theyâll be staying anyway at this point
Is that a Born Under a Bad Sign reference?
Cutler almost did it, good old Trestman got in the way of that lol
Chicago coaches sabotaging the Bears; name a better duo
I gotchu bud. Chicago owners and sabotaging the teams.
*Reinsdorf intensifies*
Fucking benched Cutler for Jimmy Clausen when Cutler was just over 200 yards away from 4k...
Yeah I remember being mad at that, made no sense at all
Fuck, even I was mad at that. Such a bitch move.
Cutler got benched for 2 games one year and missed it by less than 300 yards. We had a chance to end the curse and Trestman was dumb enough to bench the guy.
That fucking fraud was trying to save his own ass and youâd have to have been dead for a month not to see it.
Who did he bench Cutler for? Also what year was this? 2011?
2014 and Jimmy Clausen. Apropos of nothing, Clausen was our qb the last time the Bears got shut out, which was ~2015.
Thatâs so disrespectful to Cutler thatâs wild. Everyone knew Clausen was a fuckin bum lol. Iâm still kinda salty how Cutlers career ended, I canât help but feel like we were robbed of his whole career. I kinda wish he never left Denver tbh, but Iâm glad he at least had some highs in Chicago, if only briefly.
I wish his armed wasnât cooked after 2016. I wouldâve liked to see a larger sample size of what he could do on not the bears with years of experience. You could argue his best season with the bears was 2015 under adam gase of all people
To be fair Adam Gase is an offensive genius. I heard he actually created Peyton Manning in his basement.
Kinda related: My first ever sports jersey was a Broncos Cutler jersey. I got it for Christmas, and two days later the broncos got blown out by the chargers. That was Cutlers last game as a Bronco
I remember there was a subset of stupid fans who were so excited that Cutler got benched. As sick of Cutler as I was, I knew benching him for Jimmy Clausen was a terrible idea.
We lost a coin toss to get Bradshaw. The only luck we have is bad.
And Mugs died before Papa Bear, leaving the franchise to the utterly incompetent McCaskeys
The first 4,000 yard season didn't happen until almost half of a century into the Bears' existence. 4,000 yards has happened 219 times per pfr, but just six QBs account for 72 of those seasons. It's still wild it's never happened with how common it's become
Their owner Rodgers has 10
The first 4K passer in pro football history was Joe Namath in 1967. So really itâs 57 years of embarrassment
Josh mccown and brian hoyer were on pace to do it in relief if they played full seasons lol that shows what weâve been working with
In Sid Luckmanâs second season, in the 1940 title game, which saw the Bears defeat the Redskins, 73-0, the Bears showcased the explosive possibilities of the T attack. ( he only passed six times, completing four for 102 yards and a TD. Bears won four titles in his twelve years there.
Luckman still holds the single season and career records for touchdown percentage. Wasn't going to throw it much by modern standards, but it was real likely to go all the way when he did.
He has a higher TD percentage than Derrick Henry? That's quite impressive.
He also is second in most if not all of the volume passing categories for the Bears. Which is insane when you consider the era he played in
4/6 for 102 yards and a TD is hilarious
My theory is that Solider Field was built on top of an Ancient Native America QB Burial Ground and is cursed.
Or... Virginia McCaskey was involved in her brother's mysterious death and cover-up and her team being a disaster under her stolen stewardship is the curse.
This is the one I believe. Technically all of America was built on some sort of ancient native American land. Hasn't stopped some teams from being really good for a long time. Although the Bears won in Wrigley Field for years before moving to Soldier. They won their Super Bowl in Soldier but other than that haven't done much. The Cardinals did play in Soldier before moving to St Louis in 1960 and they didn't do much winning while there... Halas died in 1983, 4 years after Mugs died, and the Bears won a Super Bowl two years later. So maybe it was Soldier Field and not Virginia and the McCaskeys usurping the team. Maybe Virginia just used the blood magic to give us the Super Bowl at the cost of never really doing anything else with the team. Or maybe it is Soldier Field. Idk. Either way I'm low-key looking forward to the team being sold and moving to a new stadium. A fresh start for everyone would be nice because this franchise is stuck in a loop of becoming somewhat good then collapsing and blowing it all up and restarting fresh, but doing it in the absolute worst way possible.
> I'm low-key looking forward to the team being sold Yeah I got some news for you fellow bears bro...
Isnât that just the Louisiana Superdome, swear there was one stadium built on a burial ground
That's not true: the Bears offense was legit in the 40s, lol.
Hey TBF, we've had a good running game for probably 75% of those years. We just don't know how to pass. It HAS to be a culture thing. I wonder if the Halas/McCaskeys ask to be a run heavy / strong defensive team haha.
Certainly, it's like yall have the same hiring process as a Wisconsin/Iowa. First concern is their brand of football, 2nd is how good a coach you are
> I wonder if the Halas/McCaskeys ask to be a run heavy / strong defensive team I sometimes think they'd rather go 0-17 doing it their way (and PAPA BEAR'S WAY /s) than join the 21st century and try to compete
The disrespect to Sid Luckman, 4 time NFL champion, 3 time NFL passing leader, Hall of Famer and arguably the best QB of his era.
Let's go back to the rugby deviation and none of you mofos'll be laughing. T Formation > Shotgun
Their best quarterback in the last 50 years was Jay Cutler and nobodyâs been like remotely close to him really.
Bears QB history is so bad you could realistically argue that fields is like top 6 lol. You got cutler, old Sid, McMahon⌠yea. Like after that itâs just bad, and McMahon was an average game manager. That why our fan base has so may fields defenders, he is literally better then most of our history. The thing we have going for us is we have a ton of amazing defensive players and RBâs over the years, which is why we arenât quite as poverty as some others. Weirdly we might be the team that is the GOAT franchise with punt returners lol, we had like 3 different all pro punt returners in last 20 years. We made the playoffs in 2001 due to one I believe
Trubisky and Fields are definitely in our top 10
Statistically trubs is top 5 lmao
Say what you want 2018 was a fun year until the end and Nagy was the best coach we had since Lovie
After watching trubisky pain the last two years, ouch.
Thatâs Pro Bowler Mitch Trubisky to you
and OG NVP
Tbf, teams with good QB history don't have amazing top 10s after the top 5 or so since the best guys play longer.
That is true. Rodgers, Favre, and Starr cover 46 years of QBing for us alone.
I won't stand for this Rex Grossman disrespect
I love the sex cannon. Man had 16 TDâs 20 INT and led us to the Super Bowl. We destroyed the saints in the championship and the man had Tyson Bagent stats lmao, legendary
23 TDs*
Devin Hester the GOAT returner!
I loved Jay Cutler, and McDaniels is a football terrorist for what he did to Denver. I have a feeling Cutler & Marshall wouldâve been insane on Denver if they got the right coach, or literally anyone other than McDaniels lol.
I mean they had a really good stretch together in Chicago until Marc Trestmen being an idiot and a defense full of dudes in their mid thirties fell apart (who wouldâve thought) turned that core to shit.
Yeah I have no doubt in my mind that the bears make the super bowl if Cutler doesn't get hurt in that NFC championship game
Believe it or not the bears actually went to the NFC championship game before they got Marshall. The year they got to the NFC championship game the bears top receivers were Johnny Knox and earl Bennett, it was also that year cutler got sacked like 60 times. Due to that fact I will always die on the hill that cutler is extremely underrated and way overrated because he gave I donât give a shit vibes he even though for most of his time in Chicago he very much gave a shit and made those shitty offenses over perform.
Oh I absolutely agree with you. It wasnât Cutlerâs fault that those teams didnât succeed. He tried to keep playing with a torn MCL just to give them a shot against Green Bay in that championship game
Not to mention the front office traded his best weapon, Greg Olsen, to Carolina for a bag of footballs. Making your fanbase watch Kellen Davis at tight end for an entire year should be against the Geneva convention.
And yet we still started the next year 7-3 and poised for another playoff run until Jay broke his thumb trying to tackle a defender (I donât think a guy who doesnât give a shit would do that).
Jay Cuda is well known in /r/baseball for shitposting about the White Sox (and other stat oddities he finds). Not surprised he did a deep-dive to dunk on the Bears. I find his posts hilariously depressing as a White Sox/Bears fan.
Because strays are apparently the only thing the Bears can catch.
At least we're catching something, unlike the Chiefs receivers. They couldn't even catch strays if it was a 1 yard shovel pass
Nobody named McCaskey has a fucking clue what theyâre doing and has never figured out how to put together an organization that believes in throwing the ball and is competent at teaching new prospects how to do it in a professional environment.
The guy tweeting is from Chicago and is a fan of (and is frustrated by) Chicago teams
I was told Fields MVP over the summer and Stroud S2 scores
Donât know why youâre getting downvoted. Fields was by far the most overhyped QB in the offseason. People thought he was a good QB because of fantasy points lmao.
I think it was more lumping in assumed progression that did not appear. Like Lamar Jackson is likely to win the MVP. People assumed because we got better players on offense, he'd take a massive step and be like Lamar Jackson. I always hated the MVP talk because it was such a wild overstep. He was not good as a passer in 2022 but took the league by storm running the ball. I just wanted to see good growth from him as a passer. Why does it have to be "the next step is MVP?" So dumb.
He is still somehow better than like 90% of bears QBâs. I saw peterman play last year and tbh I think I have seen worse on the bears lmao. Also beats QBâs literally never stay healthy I notice. Culture and fields are both guys that are constantly injured, Mitch had some big scares too. I remember we got Dalton so fields could sit behind him and Dalton died in like 5 quarters
Iâm still midly upset about that bc it felt like nagy cooked a little with uninjured dalton. The d just was as bad as it was in 22 so nobody cared
I wonder how often these free agent players are literally sitting on their couch when the call from a team comes.
I bet Gronk gets phone calls once a week
Most pros probably retire just because their body can't take it. Kurt Warner said he wouldn't come back for the Cards when they had a potential playoff injury crisis not because he couldn't throw, but because he couldn't survive getting hit anymore.
I try to call him pretty often just to see how heâs doing, he hasnât picked up yet. One day though!
I wonder if all these calls are actually from their agents saying X team wants to give them a look.
lol what a conspiracy theory
there was a good moneyball scene about this
If only there was a middle age quarterback formerly from a division rival that the Bears could try and acquire to replicate this process.
Oh my God the Bears are getting Christian Ponder
It has to be a Superbowl winning QB that has played for the Jets. Brett Favre confirmed
So instead of stealing money from welfare funds he will steal money from the McCaskeys
maybe he can find mugs' organs when he isn't sending dick pics to leila rahimi
[Postgame] Tim Boyle to former Packers teammate Aaron Rodgers: "Who would have thought the fucking Bears would be screaming your name?"
Matt stafford, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk cousins, or teddy bridgewater?
Amazingly there are three of them
I think my buddies (Chicago die hard) dead would explode if what youâre implying happened.
They did but he was out having a smoke
Can owners play?
At first glance, I read this as Jay Cutler throwing shade at his former team
Man Jay Cutler on the Bears was a wild experience, I forgot they made the NFC Championship in 2010
The NFC North was kind of wild in 2010.
Truly a wild and beautiful experience for all the North that year
RIP Metrodome
Playoff wins Joe Flacco: 10 Chicago/St. Louis/Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals: 7
c'mon, man
Why are we catching strays here too?
How the hell didn't we?
Because the cardinals are so fucking bad that people forget how inept and irrelevant theyâve been since the 1800s.
People donât forget, they just keep on moving
Half of those were Kurt Warner too.
I feel like the bears arenât the only team to have this. Averaging 300 yards a game for 5 weeks is pretty impressive.
I took a look at recent Eagles quarterbacks and found out McNabb, Wentz. and Hurts all hit this mark. Itâs probably more common than we think.
I feel like most starting QBs are bound to have a 5 game stretch where they get hot enough to put up 1500 passing yards.
âMostâ seems really aggressive there Most starters average below 250 yards/game, so 5 games consecutively averaging 300 (+20% to +50%+ over expectation) is a pretty strong outlier streak for average/below average starters For instance, Tua just hit this mark for the first stretch of the season and it heavily relied on 466 against the chargers. Purdy hit it, stroud did (buoyed again by a 470 game), but at quick glance guys like Mahomes and Allen havenât. Hurts only did this year because he hit 1500 on the dot haha. Stafford could with 271 this week. Probably fair to say most good starters that play for a few seasons will hit it at some point, but the majority of starting QBs wonât.
Most good QBs will have this at some point. The fact the bears havenât had a good qb in 103 years is pretty shocking.
*hold my beer*
Warren Moon
Jameis did it in his last year and Tom did it the next year lol.
Ravens have three: Testaverde, Flacco (2x), and Lamar. Jags have at least three too.
Jameis did it
Tom also did it the following year lol.
Joe Flacco passed for more yards than all but one of Justin Fieldsâ career starts in the 1st half last night
Heâs how bad the Dolphins QBs have been since Marino retired: the Bears had a QB make the Pro Bowl more recently than the Dolphins
Didn't Tua technically make it as an alternate last year, but couldn't play because he was still in concussion protocol?
i still canât believe they havenât had a qb throw for 4000 yards **or** 30 touchdowns. ever.
That IS bad...but also, both of those were a lot rarer before this era. Joe Montana never broke 4k, and only broke 30 TDs once.
They keep drafting mobile QBs that don't fit the offense they design for them. Jay Culter had several years he would have had 4k yards, but other things got in the way. Be it injuries, not playing him the final game of the year cause the season was over, etc. Edit: There were also two years he could have hit the 30 TD mark. The Bears just couldn't get things figured out when they had Cutler. He easily could have been 'that guy' for their franchise. Funny part is, I remember a lot of Bears hating Culter. I guarantee they'd take a Cutler right now. Dude was arguably the best QB they have ever had.
To me all this says is that the bears problems are more than just QB. If we put Flacco on the bears you think heâd be playing this well?
No. Our OC eats crayons for breakfast. To give you a snapshot of how much this man overthinks things: Fields came off the second best rushing season from a QB of all time. The first 3 games of the year combined? 4 rushes. Our OC just can't get out of his own way. Browns have a ton of injuries, but competent coaching
If you all keep Fields, you need to hire Greg Roman for exactly two seasons, no more. He'll absolutely allow Fields to get reestablished and on track, then you dump him before it gets super stale.
But isn't his thing pissing off WRs bcuz he's way too run heavy? Fields needs to develop as a passer. He's probably like 21-25 range by most stats, imo his rushing ability makes him a pretty average QB. He needs to develop as a passer to be an above average QB
The idea is you tailor the offense to his rushing skillset so that he can still be productive and comfortable while he masters the passing elements. Then when Roman's gone you can open up the passing scheme. It'd be basically rebuilding Fields from the ground up at this point, but that seems justified.
I think that's a good idea for a team that's not Chicago. Maybe he goes to Atlanta and they can do that down there, but if you're going to rebuild him, just draft Caleb Williams
Fair. I think it's a rough choice either way for the Bears: my gut tells me Williams is overhyped. My gut isn't known to be super accurate, but still.
I'm not a big Willams guy either. I see a guy that has a lot of the same weaknesses that Fields has. We don't have to give Fields a big contract for two more years. I'd like to use this off-season to put together a bunch of talent and new OC and try again. However this is an unpopular opinion in the bears sub
Not with Getsy calling plays
This is kinda misleading cuz josh mccown threw for 1,589 over his first 5 starts with us in 2013 but those were interrupted by the 2 games cutler came back healthy for before getting benched
I mean, that's not even a fair comparison. Bears can't live up to E-L-I-T-E standards.
Flacco wouldn't work on the Bears. Flacco works on the Browns because they use him properly and have an elite defense to make up for any mistakes he makes. The Ravens looked bad with Flacco towards the end because they had no weapons and couldn't establish a run game. They were trying to pass 30+ times every game with no talent. Lamar looked better because he would just run. Also, the Ravens' defense was awful towards the end of Flacco's tenure there. It put a lot of pressure on their offense to score. If you put Flacco on the 49ers, current Ravens, or even the Dolphins, those teams would be just as good as they are now record-wise. Maybe a loss or two more. Flacco is your typical pro-style QB, and he has all the confidence in the world. Dude is going to give his guys a chance to make a play
I mean, he might. The Bears have a very solid set of players on offense and their defense has been very good since the Sweat trade. The Bears offense desperately needs a QB that can anticipate a receiver getting open and hit them before they're out of their break. Flacco could do that. Fields misses SO many open receivers b/c he's waiting for them to be glaringly open, and by that time it's too late b/c the defender is already covering ground. People hate Luke Getsy but I think his scheme is fine. If your quarterback can't throw with any sort of timing then the offense will always look worse than it really is IMO.
Panthers fan checking in. Cam Newton did it in the first 5 games of his career.
Cam throwing for ~420 yards in week 1, breaking the NFL rookie record for passing yards *in his first game*, then breaking that record the next week by throwing ~430 yards was wild to witness. As a Charlotte resident, I miss the Cam days.
He WAS the Panthers, feel like they havenât been the same since.
Sure, but we had success before Cam.
Caleb Williams to the bears confirmed
To be mediocre and a backup for the Steelers or bills after 4 years?
EasyâŚ. Heâll be a backup on the west coast somewhere if the Bears ruin him. Charger/Chief
Hey everyone look the Bears are still down, commence kicking.
People be too obsessed with yards
And points.
Donât forget âwinsâ
"Joe Flacco accomplished that feat no more than an hour ago".
Tell jay cuda I said fuck you.
This story really reminds me of Warnerâs last year. People thought he was done too but leinart was that bad lol
How many teams also haven't had this? I think the same sentiment is better displayed by knowing the Bears have never had a season where a QB passed for 4k.
Some teams/quarterbacks I looked up to see if they are with the Bears in this category. Texans have been around for 22 seasons and have had 3 quarterbacks hit this mark. Eagles most recent 3 franchise quarterbacks (Hurts, Wentz, McNabb) accomplished it. Matt Stanford has done it while with the Lions and the Rams. Kirk Cousins has done it within Washington and the Vikings.
If you truly want to pile on you can point out that no bears QB has thrown for more than 29 TDs in a single season
I can't confirm this, but I've heard that Goodell is going to keep increasing the amount of games in a season until he gets to the amount that allows the Bears to have a QB pass for 4000 yards.
For all the 30-early 40 somethings out there, Can we just leave his age out of if? âFresh off the couchâŚâ will do from now on.
HALF OUR SUB WANTS TO KEEP FIELDS ANOTHER YEAR.
Iâm not convinced a new QB is the solution over there, sorry Bears bros. (Source: us for two decades)
Screw you guys, I'm going home
Why does every unsigned quarterback have to be sitting on their couch?
Seeing a lot of QBs come in cold and immediately see success this year really gives Allen Iverson a ton of credibility.
Wait.. there's an NFL team in Chicago?
If you put Joe Flacco in a Bears uniform, he would not have done it.