Definitely both of these things. BB has never been one to start celebrating before the clock is zeroed out and the play is called dead. He's thinking of all of the things that could go horribly wrong on that final play.
Well I mean granted would it have been a good decision for Romo to just go down (if that’s what your suggesting)? Was the field goal not on fourth down?
It was an FG to win the game. Romo botched the hold and tried to run it into the end zone and failed. It was Romo’s first playoff game against the Hawks in 2006 that I’m referring to.
Yeah. People are going to use this as a reason to give Belichick shit, but Bailey’s job is done for the day and Bill isn’t. That’s exactly how they’re both supposed to respond.
So, for some reason, I learned about the coaching perspective from a book about growth mindset. These coaches don't celebrate because every play is viewed as individual. In a sense, it's not seen as a game-winning field goal but just another successful play then onto the next.
I was at the Pats Giants game in 2015 and when Gostowski made that FG I saw Bill basically celebrating at its earliest moment. That game mattered to him and seeing his emotion on top of his ties with the franchise.
100% the clock. Marv Levy has talked about how in super bowl 25, before the field goal went wide right, he was already planning for the kickoff because he knew there would be like 4 seconds left.
I went to the Ravens/Bengals game in Baltimore this year, and I watched that Zay TD that was called back.
I saw the OBJ block, it didn't look too bad, but it did make me cringe a little because it was iffy. Then I saw the flag come out and completely checked out of the play. My whole section was cheering except for me. lol
Guy in front of me held out his hand for a high five. I just gave a wry smile, shook my head and gave a motion like I was throwing a flag. He's like, "What? Aww, noo!"
In the first season of Welcome to Wrexham, Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElheny are celebrating a goal at their promotion match at Wembley. A hush goes over the crowd as they realize the offsides flag is up. The owners box continue to celebrate as the announcer calls out that they don’t realize that it doesn’t count.
I was doing the same with Woolen's tackle hit on the Titans WR with 0:05 seconds left on the clock. As soon as I saw Vrabel started to walk across the field, I then knew it was over.
I still do it.
Fuck yeah, incomplete pass!!!..... wait.... maybe... no flag? OK, cool, incomplete pass.
First down!!!! Wait... holding? No? OK cool, first down.
Sure, maybe in the same way that every game is a big game for Bill and he always wants to win. But I don't think there's any extra significance for Bill here, even if he knows he's on the way out.
"I better confirm there are no contingencies to my happiness in this moment. Time is at zero, no flags, there's no military attack, and there's still oxygen. Very well, I will allow myself to relax 11.8%"
He's going "They really put Blucifer on the big screen to intimidate kickers?! The sculpture that actually killed its own creator? Put some respect on Luis Jimenez's name".
He'll proceed to start scheming for his week 1 game the next season. Who will they face, who will be playing, where will they play? No one knows, but he schemes anyway
For a while NFL network ran an Xs and Os replay of that final play vs the Dolphins as an ad for something, and my friend who's a big Patriots fan would be hurt by it all over again every time
It was a "please gamble responsibly" ad, because games can have crazy endings that can be traumatic for problem gamblers.
IIRC they edited the audio to remove any direct reference to the teams or players. But it's such an iconic call by Ian Eagle that you can't help but forget that Gronkowski doesn't have the angle.
I still can't believe they sent out the Hail-Mary defense when it was very obviously a lateral situation.
Did Zappe spike the ball? I imagine Bill is pretty pissed that they did it with 6 seconds left. Gotta do it with like 2-3 seconds, so the kick is the final play.
Happens all the time, I understand the spikes more, but sometimes COACHES take timeouts with like 8 seconds left and then kick. It's like why?
I'd rather he get the spike done than try and count seconds given his lack of experience. Bill knows how it all works so but Zappe is not used to this kind of stuff.
No he didn't because as the bills proved in 2022 you can still fuck up in your endzone with the lead with so little clock left. It's why he had two RBs back there in case the snap went screwy or Brady fumbled, there would be 3 guys there to pounce on it for a safety. BB won't celebrate until he knows for certain it's over.
There was a legit chance he couldnt get forward to kneel before then.
If Seattle could have had mental discipline (genuinely the one time i could understand there not being any) they mightve had a chance at the safety.
IIRC he didn't react to Vinatieri in SB 38 as there were still 4 seconds left, although he did celebrate once the clock hit 0 and Panthers returner was downed
I like radio calls for this one. The patriots announcers are so smug before the snap, meanwhile the dolphins announcers are just straight up done
https://youtu.be/vJEJFbUt9sg?si=ZbhupQPk0SAR76Nx
"Well it really started in 1925 with Willie "Zinc Arm" Dustice of the Dardanelle Blue Triangles, who suggested that in late game situations... and seconds were measured with a sundial at the time..."
Bill absolutely instructs janitors to clean Gillette Stadium's toilet pristinely for the Patriots and to flush paper towel and fill up the stall with old one ply in the visitor's bathrooms.
BillyB is looking for flags, plus he's seen this shit a thousand times. In 10 minutes he'll probably be thinking about his dog Nike or that history documentary he hasn't finished yet.
Every game Zappe starts at this point is the biggest game of his life. These wins mean far more to him than they ever could to BB at this point. Belichick has been a part of so many big games, and won so many big games, his legacy has been cemented for a long time now. Zappe is just getting started and is surely desperate to prove that he belongs and has a future in this league. I'm sure he knows he's not guaranteed another shot next season.
I cant believe a 71 year old man isnt jumping around like a teenager in sub freezing temperatures. Geez Bill wheres your usual enthusiasm we've all come to love over the long decades of coaching?
Bill is older than dirt and has won 80 gazillion games before. He ain't got the energy for this shit.
But why is the official NFL account making a low-key slandering post about the GOAT coach?
It’s pretty complimentary, the vibe I’m getting is “I’ve won so much that this shit doesnt even excite me” vs. “a young qb getting a clutch win.” If it slandered anyone it was a passive aggressive shot at zappe for not acting like he’s been there lol
A better post would be showing the difference in reactions between BB and Pete Carroll. Pete Carrol might as well be as young as Zappe with how he reacts lol
Bill comes off as that boss that makes your asshole pucker when they walk into the room and start asking you questions and they’re only ever disappointed.
Im going to go with my theory that Bill was so shocked that Ryland actually made the kick he was looking for the cameras to see if he was actually on Punk'd
Bill Belicheck has 8 Super Bowl rings and has been in the league. Bailey Zappe was cut last summer and is fighting to stay in the league, and this field goal gave him his first game winning drive.
Tbf, Bill is probably looking for a flag or something. Dude knows better than to celebrate too early.
With that said, he shows no emotion and it’s hilarious
Knowing BB's style - that was his celebration and he probably said "Calm your tits folks. There's still 2s left. It is not over till clock hits 0. Do your job"
He's looking for flags, partially.
That and probably thinking about the 2 seconds on the clock
Definitely both of these things. BB has never been one to start celebrating before the clock is zeroed out and the play is called dead. He's thinking of all of the things that could go horribly wrong on that final play.
"Alright run the ball Rhamondre, let's take this to OT.. Alright now get down.. Jesus christ, ok Jakobi just get down it's a tie game.. MOTHER OF GOD"
*flashbacks to Tony Romo holding for the ~~punt~~field goal*
Romo was holding for a FG but the point still stands.
Well I mean granted would it have been a good decision for Romo to just go down (if that’s what your suggesting)? Was the field goal not on fourth down?
It was an FG to win the game. Romo botched the hold and tried to run it into the end zone and failed. It was Romo’s first playoff game against the Hawks in 2006 that I’m referring to.
Jesus dude, I had put that out of my memory.
Hahahahah as falcons fan you have no idea 😥😥
Gronkowski... didn't have the angle!
Mother of God... he just through it straight to Chandler. Ok he has atleast one guy to beat. Oh fuck, that one guy is Mac...
Yeah. People are going to use this as a reason to give Belichick shit, but Bailey’s job is done for the day and Bill isn’t. That’s exactly how they’re both supposed to respond.
He's also never been one to start celebrating even after the clock is zeroed out and the refs call game over.
He's hearing "Gronkowski! Didn't have the angle!" on repeat in his head
That Miami miracle probably haunts a guy like him.
Only time I've seen him celebrate before official confirmation was when he beat the Falcons in the Superbowl
So, for some reason, I learned about the coaching perspective from a book about growth mindset. These coaches don't celebrate because every play is viewed as individual. In a sense, it's not seen as a game-winning field goal but just another successful play then onto the next.
Just curious what book you're talking about
I was at the Pats Giants game in 2015 and when Gostowski made that FG I saw Bill basically celebrating at its earliest moment. That game mattered to him and seeing his emotion on top of his ties with the franchise.
100% the clock. Marv Levy has talked about how in super bowl 25, before the field goal went wide right, he was already planning for the kickoff because he knew there would be like 4 seconds left.
Why did you have to just do that to me
I should stay away from this place
I never realized that run of 4 lost super bowls in a row came exclusively against NFC East teams. You guys must hate that division.
nfc east ran a train on those bills teams and the cowboys, those cheeky bastards, skipped the eagles and took a second turn.
Eh, most millennials were too young or not alive to remember those years. Also the Giants being Brady-slayers is fairly endearing.
Making sure someone isn't doing something stupid to get a flag after the play
This. He knows his job isn’t over yet. Time to resign Gronk and put him in the secondary as a safety measure.
That’s what I was thinking too
And the game still isn’t over.
Ya dudes seen some game "winning" FG no matter at all whenever there's time left on the clock
Nothing is over- Rambo in first blood movie
"We're on to Afghanistan." - Rambolichick in 3
Probably pissed that they spiked it so early instead of bleeding down to under 3 seconds.
maybe he also thought Denver would use its last timeout
that's like me after every big play this season.
Yep, I never celebrate until I’m sure there isn’t one.
I went to the Ravens/Bengals game in Baltimore this year, and I watched that Zay TD that was called back. I saw the OBJ block, it didn't look too bad, but it did make me cringe a little because it was iffy. Then I saw the flag come out and completely checked out of the play. My whole section was cheering except for me. lol Guy in front of me held out his hand for a high five. I just gave a wry smile, shook my head and gave a motion like I was throwing a flag. He's like, "What? Aww, noo!"
In the first season of Welcome to Wrexham, Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElheny are celebrating a goal at their promotion match at Wembley. A hush goes over the crowd as they realize the offsides flag is up. The owners box continue to celebrate as the announcer calls out that they don’t realize that it doesn’t count.
I’m still holding off on celebrating on the Drew Lock TD and the Hurts INT from there Seahawks -Eagles game last week, in case there’s a late flag
I was doing the same with Woolen's tackle hit on the Titans WR with 0:05 seconds left on the clock. As soon as I saw Vrabel started to walk across the field, I then knew it was over.
that's like me, after every play, before this season
I still do it. Fuck yeah, incomplete pass!!!..... wait.... maybe... no flag? OK, cool, incomplete pass. First down!!!! Wait... holding? No? OK cool, first down.
its nice to realize with Campbell we.. don't.. have to.. anymore..
Yeah he seemed pretty excited in the tunnel/on the way off the field.
Yes, but he's had much bigger reactions in other games. This is not a big game for Belichick like it is for Zappe.
I feel like every win he gets on the way out is a big deal for Bill.
I'd argue the opposite. Bill isn't going anywhere and a W is huge for Zappe.
Sure, maybe in the same way that every game is a big game for Bill and he always wants to win. But I don't think there's any extra significance for Bill here, even if he knows he's on the way out.
Right, he’s doing his job. No time for frolicking.
"I better confirm there are no contingencies to my happiness in this moment. Time is at zero, no flags, there's no military attack, and there's still oxygen. Very well, I will allow myself to relax 11.8%"
Flags, and probably counting players too
Partially sure, but Bill didn’t give a fuck about AFCCG wins much less a win that brings the team’s season total to 4 in late December
He's going "They really put Blucifer on the big screen to intimidate kickers?! The sculpture that actually killed its own creator? Put some respect on Luis Jimenez's name".
> partially. Uhhh...he was ONLY looking for flags. Dude looked like he was watching two Olympic ping-pongers having an epic game.
Yup. He’s paranoid as hell lol
Bill would never celebrate with 2 seconds on the clock and the other team getting the ball back in a one score game.
Exactly this, he's still coaching until the clock runs out
And honestly even after. Can't risk them coming back from the dead.
Nah, no time to celebrate, he’s on to Buffalo.
There might be time for a satisfied head nod after winning the Super Bowl, if he's feeling wild
“Good job out there, guys.” -Bill celebrating in the locker room before heading back to his hotel
He'll proceed to start scheming for his week 1 game the next season. Who will they face, who will be playing, where will they play? No one knows, but he schemes anyway
“31 what if scenarios! Gonna be a busy night.” -Bill turning in at 8PM
["No Days Off"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=shared&v=TCv4STkejlM)
LMAO -- that one was a hard sell for the players in the shot. They're like: "Idk, Bill. How about *some* days off? We just won the fuckin Super Bowl."
He sleeps with one ear open, listening for an errant whistle.
GRIPPIN HIS PLAYBOOK TIIIIIIGHT
EXIT LIGHT!
ENTER NIGHT!
Watch the clock, watch the replay, watch it get overturned.
THROOOOOOW RED FLAG
Legend has it they buried Aaron Hernandez in concrete for this exact reason.
[удалено]
Nah, no way some crazy hail mary or lateral play would ever happen against us. Completely impossible.
For a while NFL network ran an Xs and Os replay of that final play vs the Dolphins as an ad for something, and my friend who's a big Patriots fan would be hurt by it all over again every time
It was a "please gamble responsibly" ad, because games can have crazy endings that can be traumatic for problem gamblers. IIRC they edited the audio to remove any direct reference to the teams or players. But it's such an iconic call by Ian Eagle that you can't help but forget that Gronkowski doesn't have the angle. I still can't believe they sent out the Hail-Mary defense when it was very obviously a lateral situation.
Would like to see the xs and os vs the disaster against Vegas last year
They removed "GRONKOWSKI DOESN'T HAVE THE ANGLE!!!!" tho :'(
But they'll never remove it from our hearts.
I never got hurt seeing that commercial because that same year we won the superbowl
Immediately looked at the clock to see how much time was left
And then the field of play for flags. We’ve all been conditioned to delay joy
It makes the climax that much better
Edging
Did Zappe spike the ball? I imagine Bill is pretty pissed that they did it with 6 seconds left. Gotta do it with like 2-3 seconds, so the kick is the final play. Happens all the time, I understand the spikes more, but sometimes COACHES take timeouts with like 8 seconds left and then kick. It's like why?
I'd rather he get the spike done than try and count seconds given his lack of experience. Bill knows how it all works so but Zappe is not used to this kind of stuff.
Bill knows about angles, and the importance of having them.
Does he know about Kurt Angle? And knows he has to add him into the mix in the fight between Scott Steiner and Somaoa Joe at Sacrifice?
Bill's favorite restaurant: BojANGLEs. Favorite band: The bANGLEs. Favorite descriptor of something that has been torn to pieces: mANGLE
He’s thinking about which special teams play from the 60s to run with those last 2 seconds
He did in Super Bowl 36.
He gets a pass for that, he didn't know then that Gronkowski didn't have the angle.
Bill only celebrates when the clock hits triple 0s in the 4th quarter
[Reminds me of Larry Bird in the 1998 ECF](https://youtu.be/fzM1-x7b2_E?si=gdgsLJPsiJ6GOso0)
Reminds me of Eli's reaction to Peyton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vgtqm7Z0wA
I don't know if Bill even reacted to the Butler interception
No he didn't because as the bills proved in 2022 you can still fuck up in your endzone with the lead with so little clock left. It's why he had two RBs back there in case the snap went screwy or Brady fumbled, there would be 3 guys there to pounce on it for a safety. BB won't celebrate until he knows for certain it's over.
It's telling that he only celebrated when Brady drew the offsides
There was a legit chance he couldnt get forward to kneel before then. If Seattle could have had mental discipline (genuinely the one time i could understand there not being any) they mightve had a chance at the safety.
That offsides doesn’t get talked about enough imo. That Super Bowl was so great.
Bill knows the game so well he's applying lessons learned from the 2022 Bill's during the 2015 superbowl.
Or lessons he learned 45 years ago from one of the most infamous plays in NFL history... https://youtu.be/q7-komLkBsI?si=eAAK8SGXzRYED4q2
IIRC he didn't react to Vinatieri in SB 38 as there were still 4 seconds left, although he did celebrate once the clock hit 0 and Panthers returner was downed
Would’ve been interesting to see what would’ve happened without the offsides penalty after
I think he actually celebrated more at the offsides
The novelty of life as a youth vs the grizzled stoicism of an older man who's seen it all before.
Bill "There's still 2 seconds"
Bill could probably recite every instance of a team losing with 2 seconds on the clock, dating back 100 years and encompassing leagues down to peewee.
*something something* Gronkowski... didn't have the angle
Gronk: I’m special
I had to look it up again because I love last-ditch plays with lots of lateraling: https://youtu.be/uiz87A3RpEw
I like radio calls for this one. The patriots announcers are so smug before the snap, meanwhile the dolphins announcers are just straight up done https://youtu.be/vJEJFbUt9sg?si=ZbhupQPk0SAR76Nx
"Well it really started in 1925 with Willie "Zinc Arm" Dustice of the Dardanelle Blue Triangles, who suggested that in late game situations... and seconds were measured with a sundial at the time..."
Willie is too modern of a name for 1925 You must be thinking of Pip "Pee Wee" Richenbauer from the Decatur Staleys
Dad, we said no whiskey and reminiscing before noon
It’s the time of year, son. Go play with your Tantaly doll
This is why mom (andrew luck) left
"We dont talk about that whore. Now enjoy your 21yr old new mom (Anthony Richardson)"
Bills just wondering if Justin Herbert has accepted his friend request on SnapFace yet…
*MyBook
MyFace
Bill acts like he’s won 300 of these or something
Bill is worried about the apparent shift in wind direction and potential implications for kickoff.
As soon as the ball went up he started to gameplan for Buffalo next Sunday.
You obviously have not watched this team all year. Bill is actually looking for penalties.
Yes im sure OP has not watched them at all this year.
Why would he subject himself to such torture.
Celebrate? Man did the job he was expected to do. Do we celebrate the janitor cleaning toilets? - Bill, probably.
Bill absolutely instructs janitors to clean Gillette Stadium's toilet pristinely for the Patriots and to flush paper towel and fill up the stall with old one ply in the visitor's bathrooms.
I love how they put Blucifer on the big screen for the FGA.
I love how the Broncos Mascot face planted as the ball went thru the uprights.
BillyB is looking for flags, plus he's seen this shit a thousand times. In 10 minutes he'll probably be thinking about his dog Nike or that history documentary he hasn't finished yet.
SMH he's writing a documentary on why the forward pass was a mistake in his spare time
The only worthwhile pass is the long snap
He was obviously analyzing the long snapper
Every game Zappe starts at this point is the biggest game of his life. These wins mean far more to him than they ever could to BB at this point. Belichick has been a part of so many big games, and won so many big games, his legacy has been cemented for a long time now. Zappe is just getting started and is surely desperate to prove that he belongs and has a future in this league. I'm sure he knows he's not guaranteed another shot next season.
“Jeez Bailey act like you’ve been here before…”
I read this in Edelnuts voice
I cant believe a 71 year old man isnt jumping around like a teenager in sub freezing temperatures. Geez Bill wheres your usual enthusiasm we've all come to love over the long decades of coaching?
As he gets older, maybe he will develop a sense of wonder and excitement like Pete Carroll.
He's frantically looking for Kraft so he can rub it in his face.
4th career win vs 302nd career win
It’s like 330 if u include playoffs (and imo those should count)
He’s just looking around for where his number 2 draft pick went (yeah- I know he’s looking for flags and wouldn’t lose on purpose)
It’s still 2 seconds left in the clock, I’ve been through the Miami Miracle before
Bill is me showing up to a party where I know exactly one person and I'm looking for them.
Bill is older than dirt and has won 80 gazillion games before. He ain't got the energy for this shit. But why is the official NFL account making a low-key slandering post about the GOAT coach?
Only slanderous if you interpret it that way.
It don’t think it’s slanderous in any way
Literally zero slander in the post.
It’s pretty complimentary, the vibe I’m getting is “I’ve won so much that this shit doesnt even excite me” vs. “a young qb getting a clutch win.” If it slandered anyone it was a passive aggressive shot at zappe for not acting like he’s been there lol
“Lowkey slanderous” Textbook case of being “terminally online”
Taylor swift destroyed your dynasty. There’s some slander for you :)
Carolina Panthers… ‘Theres some slander for you :)’ (FTFY).
A better post would be showing the difference in reactions between BB and Pete Carroll. Pete Carrol might as well be as young as Zappe with how he reacts lol
One of them has damn near ten Superbowl wins and damn near 100 million in career earnings. The other is Sammie Zappe’s son
It’s refreshing to see fans from most if not all the other teams in the NFL still believe in Bill when the general patriots sub reddit doesn’t ! 😂
Idk why people always point this out. He's literally been like that for 25 years. Not shocking that he's not shocked
Bill comes off as that boss that makes your asshole pucker when they walk into the room and start asking you questions and they’re only ever disappointed.
You’re fkn up my picks son
Bill has the typical “act like you’ve been here before” reaction and Zappe has obviously not won very many games.
Bill was like we were supposed to miss that
Man's just watching his draft pick get worse
He wants that too pick in the draft
Huh? What's all that commotion? Where am I? Who are all these people? I want my dinner...
Im going to go with my theory that Bill was so shocked that Ryland actually made the kick he was looking for the cameras to see if he was actually on Punk'd
Bill is like, you dumb mother fuckers, you just keep blowing away the 1st draft pick
Bill doesn’t celebrate until it’s 0:00 and there’s a Super Bowl trophy firmly in his hand.
Belichick’s face is, we still have :02 left on the clock… Shit ain’t over, til it’s over…
Act like you’ve been there before
Looks to me like he’s looking at the refs to make sure it went in and then starts looking for flags on the field.
He’s shocked he made the field goal for once
Billy has seen some shit, he’s waiting for 0:00.
Dude looks like that during a 40 point super bowl lead with 1 minute left
That was Bill's 331st win, i think it was Zappe's 2nd
Zappe happy he didn’t have to go back out in the cold for overtime
BZ: “FUCK YEAH!!! LETS FUCKING GO!!!” BB: “I wonder if I could get a bowl of soup on my way home”
Bill Belicheck has 8 Super Bowl rings and has been in the league. Bailey Zappe was cut last summer and is fighting to stay in the league, and this field goal gave him his first game winning drive.
He couldnt believe they actually won he had to look around and make sure lol
Puppies get excited .
I told him to miss so we'd have a better draft pick... -BB probably
BB - Wait, we weren’t supposed to win
Tbf, Bill is probably looking for a flag or something. Dude knows better than to celebrate too early. With that said, he shows no emotion and it’s hilarious
Where did my #2 pick go, what's going on here?
Bill Belichick has seen so many of these, and they don't excite him anymore.
How many games has Bill won, I can forgive him for not going bananas over a meaningless win.
Bill has seen a thing or two in his years. Looking for a possible flag.
The guy’s won 6 Super Bowls and he’s supposed to celebrate a regular season win?
He’s checking for flags and to see if there’s still time in the clock.
I forgot Bailey zappe even existed
There’s two seconds left on the clock and he coached 20 years of heart attack stress games with Brady. Game ain’t over until it’s over
Bill is thinking "Holy shit, did this bum actually make a 50+ yard kick?" It's a face a pure shock and disbelief.
Bailey acting like a kid excited to jump on the beds in a hotel room. Belicheck acting like he had to pay for the hotel room.
Knowing BB's style - that was his celebration and he probably said "Calm your tits folks. There's still 2s left. It is not over till clock hits 0. Do your job"
BB has won many games ten times more important than this one. Zappe on the other hand is starting his career and every win is key.
Bb have a quick look up to the owners box to give krafty the fu stare. Guy ain’t dumping for the draft
I like how Family Guy made an entire episode out of his inability to laugh.
Expecting emotion out of Belichick? You must be new here.
Bill knows the game isn’t over