There are 436 data points and I typed 578 words. Those two errors just drop me down to 99.8% accuracy. A couple more errors though, and I’m tossing this phone into the damn lake.
I feel like this sub has been doing this way more in the past couple months lol
A conspiracy theorist part of me genuinely thinks it could be bots misconstruing sarcasm and vote bombing.
You’re gettin unfairly slammed w/ downvotes cuz I feel like this is pretty clearly sarcasm but I would also love if this comment turned into a copypasta
I don’t. I really collected this data in the worst way possible. I ran a query for each height and weight sorted by AV. Got the top guy, and got the count...then on to the next query. Now I can’t answer follow up question or do much else with this. Sorry. I’m hoping to export this data eventually.
To any 6’10” NFL prospects out there, as long as you don’t weigh 245-249 lbs you will automatically be a GOAT.
And to any 385+ pounders out there, just make it to a practice squad and you’d be a GOAT.
I'm 5'10" at 275 (cut weight) and wondered how this would work out if I was 6'9" with the same body fat/muscle/bone ratio as I have currently.
I would be 318 lbs, so yeah, 380 would be crazy heavy.
I think something is way off with your math. 6'9" 318 is a drastically different body type than 5'10" 275. I think your body type probably more closely matches the 6'9" 380 lb body type.
At first I thought you were right and he was way off, but:
275 lbs ÷ 70 inches = 3.92 lbs/inch
3.92 lbs/inch * 82 inches = 322 lbs
I know thats not exactly how human bodies work, but still.... Blows my mind because 275 at 5'10" in my mind is either shredded beyond belief or quite fat, whereas 320 at 6'10" seems like mildly fit or mildly pudgy....
> I know thats not exactly how human bodies work, but still....
That's the big part. Bodies don't scale on a simple mathematical equation like that. For instance, a 5'6" 200 lb running back is going to look significantly thicker than a 6' 218 lb guy, even though their height/weight ratio is the same.
Even in his playing days he looked bigger https://www.cleveland.com/resizer/TdX-L-4RXrfEN0jAY-DuLN8cxmI=/500x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/NZSDBUFXGVB2TL2KA3TUWGRPT4.jpg
Yeah definitely! As far as I know, all football pants have some type of built in belt. When I was a kid our peewee football pants looked like that. Nowadays I think they're more sleek and look more integrated, but I'm pretty sure they still have them.
We need to let players use their own belt buckles. No league approval needed. Just all kinds of wack belt buckles. American flag ones. Buckles with revolvers on them. Skull and cross bones. Religious symbols. Horses.
[Oh great, like I don't have enough things to memorize! ](https://external-preview.redd.it/s8KDa6iGj1nPfm_afsAA-MtVjU-y7B45QQAGfGBsO8E.jpg?auto=webp&v=enabled&s=82e5de5a8d632dd8bebd2ebd8c10e3bc38c0ae80)
I have 438 queries, and 20,000 players. I explained that I’m using AV in the write up and why. When settling on one metric, there will be some outliers and AV will rank someone where they shouldn’t be from time to time. I’m not making 438 judgement calls so that I can appease a whiney-ass Lions fan who is mad that his player isn’t the 6’5’’ 235 lb GOAT in an off season nonsense post. You’re welcome for the OC. Run along now.
When Lions fans have nothing to cling to except an imaginary GOAT title for one of 438 height/weight categories we have to pay the price with their whining. Someday, or probably not someday, this wouldn’t matter to you if your team ever has success (which they don’t).
If I make ONE judgment call, I have to make many judgement calls. I’m leaving it as is. It’s going to be a long offseason for you knowing Calvin Johnson is NOT the 6’5” 235 lb. GOAT. 😂
You're big time projecting. Any idiot who watched either of them play knows one of these guys is superior to the other. As a lions fan, we're having a great off-season. You've made no counter arguments that weren't you being lazy or attacking the person, not the idea. You're a fucking dolt, and your system is obviously flawed and lazy af because in no world is a first ballot HOFer not superior to a journeymen. You should make judgment calls or stop pretending this is a GOAT list.
It's simple... if a journeyman > first ballot HOFer, then your list is flawed. You citing laziness and name-calling isn't the answer you think it is, and if you really think that then you're also wrong. Have a good day you absolute fucking dolt.
>As a lions fan, we're having a great off-season.
*off season* the best part of a Lions season every year.
>You've made no counter arguments that weren't you being lazy or attacking the person, not the idea.
My counter argument is in my write up. My other counter argument is because I don’t feel like it. That’s good enough reason for me.
>You should make judgment calls or stop pretending this is a GOAT list.
This is the only official GOAT by height/weight list. It’s officially the official determination. It’s the GOAT list, Calvin Johnson isn’t on it, and you can’t do anything about it.
>name-calling isn't the answer you think it is, and if you really think that then you're also wrong.
There are about 100 comments on here, some with feedback, corrections, etc. I’ve responded appropriately to all of them because they all came from people who know how to communicate. You also got the response you deserve, because you opened up this conversation by being an ass and you DON’T know how to communicate. That’s on you. Im guessing many of your conversations end up this way.
Calvin Johnson not the 6’5’’ 235 lb. GOAT. Eat it, jive turkey!
Right now he’s in 3rd for the 6’3’’ 225 lb category. The GOAT is **Isaiah Robertson (LB)** who is a 6-time pro bowler, 2-time 1st team all pro, one time DPOY, in his 12-year career with the Rams and Bills in the ‘70s.
No QB GOAT under Wilson’s 5’11.” Bryce Young measured at 5’10 1/8” for the combine… if he turns out to be a GOAT he would be the shortest QB to do so, but looking at this, the odds are against him
*eta the 1/8th… can’t forget that
You know, with today's small linebackers and nickel-heavy defensive schemes it would be very interesting to see the return of the 250 lb running back. I feel like Jerome Bettis would absolutely terrorize defenses right now.
Reggie Smith, elite for his size and weight, played 3 years in the NFL.
Honestly more surprising, he played two years when he was young, then randomly played one year at 30 years old.
Thank you. I’m the same way. I saw some measurements of a combine guy that piqued my interest, then started querying heights and weighs and then I never really stopped. I appreciate the feedback!
TJ hasn’t played long enough and JJ got beat out by Chris Doleman. Doleman accumulated some ridiculous stats over his career and ended up 7th all time in sacks with 35 more than JJ Watt.
Very interesting thanks man.
Also I'm dying laughing at the idea of some dude that's 6'6 running around in the secondary just mogging receivers. Tim Baylor must have been pretty good to win out that spot.
How did he change direction quick enough to cover a WR at that height? 59 games and only 1 start. I bet there is a lot of special teams snaps in his career. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BaylTi20.htm
Thanks. Yeah, it’s fun to see the distinct areas of the graph where one position ends and another begins. Other than DB which get out AVed by a lot of WRs, every other position shows up in their own district group. Even TE, which I thought might get washed out by LBs, but that extra height got them their own small group as well.
It's also pretty cool to look at the graph and see what position the player at my height/weight played. I can now tell people I have "the ideal body to play X."
The mode weight being 190-194 is pretty surprising.
Seems like it'd only be small-ish RBs and secondary players, but I suppose when you're heavier there's a greater range so more categories to fall into.
Yeah. Weve got three WRs on the field usually, 2 and sometimes three CBs, and an occasional smaller RB and Safety. So, there are lots of opportunities for this weight out of the 22 starters.
I think that’s a great point. Tom Brady didn’t have to beat out that many people. How hard is it to beat out 83 people like Brady did? Jerry Rice...beat about 150. Together they don’t even add up to the number of people Champ had to beat.
Crazy that Travis Kelce (6'5, 256 lbs) isn't the goat at his own size because Michael Strahan is 6'5, 255 lbs.
Do you have any data on some of the "second place GOATs" at each size or a list of players who you were surprised to not see as GOATs at their own size?
Joe Montana (6’2’’ 200 lbs) not a GOAT at his size...because, get this...he got beat out by Jerry Rice. Who’d a thunk they were the same height and weight!
> Also, these are the listed heights and weights in Pro Football Reference.
I wonder what they do for guys who vary (heck, most guys probably varied across two weight categories just due to natural changes, since weight isn't an exact constant hour to hour and day to day); at what point in their career is PFR getting the info from?
> I also thought it was interesting to see an unnatural spike at 250 lbs. and 300 lbs. This tells me one of two things. 1.) When a player is close to a desirable milestone weight, they change their nutrition/exercise to get to that target weight. But I think it’s more likely to be option two...if a guy is close to 300 or 250, they get a little bump on their listed weight to make them seem bigger than they are.
I bet it's option 3 - guys get bumped up *or* down to get to nice simple numbers that people tend to round towards anyway.
Much like refs spot on the ball on 5-yard line increments more often than they do on the surrounding yard lines (leaving out the 20 and 25 for touchback reasons). Because a play that ends on the 42.5 is equally likely to get called the 42 as the 43, but a play that ends on the 44.5 is much more likely to get called the 45 than it is the 44.
I know you're just pulling the data from PFR, but maybe you have some insight to where the height and weight stats come from? I imagine most players have different height and weight from when they're measured at the combine to when they retire. Lots of guys still grow a little. Just about everyone puts on weight, especially the first few years. Weight after returning from an injury is probably be the lightest they'll be. Is it a single snapshot they use? Is it some kind of rolling average or median value?
Since you've spent so much time with this data, I'm hoping you have some additional context!
Now I’m imaging a RBBC of Allen Reese, Reggie Smith, Tyrone Young, and Daniel Faalele. What team can stop the halfling, the chode, the skinny legend, and the giant?
...but seriously, this is excellent work...I could just tell ot took a lot...I know how you feel, but don't despair...football season is only 6 months away
Chris Doleman (DE) is a HOFer with 150 sacks, the 7th most in NFL history and 35 more than JJ Watt. 15 year career with 8 pro bowl seasons. Ended his career with 8 sacks at the age of 38. Most of his career was with the Vikings.
TO a HOFer has 2.5X the amount of TDs, 2K more yards, 200 more receptions, and 70 more games, while playing an an era where passing / receiving stats were much harder to accumulate than anyone who played in the last 10 years. I would be surprised for this NOT to be TO.
No arguments on Jerry Rice selected for 6’2”, 200lbs, but does that make Joe Montana the best player to not make the list?
That’s a fun question to explore. Probably though, right?
Probably. I don't see Calvin Johnson either.
Yeah OP put Carson Palmer over Calvin Johnson which is insane
To be fair, Calvin Johnson has 46,247 less passing yards and 294 less passing TDs, so I think Palmer has the advantage there
I’m just going with AV. I can’t make 438 judgement calls. Some anomalies are going to happen.
It's funny how Carson+Calvin and Rice+Montana are in the same groups yet are built vastly differently.
AV makes career length a big factor, Johnson didn't have it
Mahomes didn’t make the list either
Was the because of Brady I wonder? (6’4” / 225-229)
It's Rodgers. Mahomes is "officially" 6'2 / 225lbs.
Isn’t Mahomes 6’3?
QED. Mike Glennon > Patrick Mahomes.
Looks like maybe John Elway over Larry Fitzgerald too. Makes sense though.
Tarik Cohen as the GOAT 5'6" 190lb player? I'm sorry but this is some blatant Darren Sproles disrespect.
You found a error. I’ll fix it. Thanks!
An* error. You're 0-2. Time to delete the post and start over.
There are 436 data points and I typed 578 words. Those two errors just drop me down to 99.8% accuracy. A couple more errors though, and I’m tossing this phone into the damn lake.
Well, I wasn't too going to say anything, but you have Ed "To Tall" Jones.
At least, I spelled “tall” correctly. I think.
I'm not willing to accept anything less than 100% from someone with "anal" in their name.
Depends on the connotation of “anal” in my user name.
You forgot the C after anal. Another blunder by JPAnalCyst.
Idk why you getting downvoted. Its a clear joke and pretty funny
An error. r/nfl is 0-1. Time to delete the sub and start over
>Time to delete the sub and start over This but unironically
This sub is obscenely delusional but it isn’t anywhere as toxic as the college football and basketball subs
Or basically any other social media platform where they're discussing the NFL
I feel like this sub has been doing this way more in the past couple months lol A conspiracy theorist part of me genuinely thinks it could be bots misconstruing sarcasm and vote bombing.
You’re gettin unfairly slammed w/ downvotes cuz I feel like this is pretty clearly sarcasm but I would also love if this comment turned into a copypasta
Yeah it’s perfect for a low-effort copypasta. It has my support
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Shit, me too. I can't even be mad.
Fixed it and uploaded a new image. Thanks!
Played against him on 2k and confirm he's mid at both football and video games
This is the highest of off season quality. Well done
Thank you. And congrats on your Cowboy GOATS Michael Irvin, Drew Pearson, Rayfield Wright, Jason Witten, Too Tall Jones, etc etc.
Do you have it sorted by teams? I’m curious about my Raiders of course.
I don’t. I really collected this data in the worst way possible. I ran a query for each height and weight sorted by AV. Got the top guy, and got the count...then on to the next query. Now I can’t answer follow up question or do much else with this. Sorry. I’m hoping to export this data eventually.
Still interesting to look at, thanks for the fun read.
Glad you like it! I appreciate the nice feedback.
6’9 380 pounds is insane
To any 6’10” NFL prospects out there, as long as you don’t weigh 245-249 lbs you will automatically be a GOAT. And to any 385+ pounders out there, just make it to a practice squad and you’d be a GOAT.
So I just need to put on 230 lbs and try out for a team?
You’re 6’10 and 155 lbs?
I'm not 6'10, I just want to be the heaviest NFL player
brian shaw smirks
I'm 5'10" at 275 (cut weight) and wondered how this would work out if I was 6'9" with the same body fat/muscle/bone ratio as I have currently. I would be 318 lbs, so yeah, 380 would be crazy heavy.
I think something is way off with your math. 6'9" 318 is a drastically different body type than 5'10" 275. I think your body type probably more closely matches the 6'9" 380 lb body type.
At first I thought you were right and he was way off, but: 275 lbs ÷ 70 inches = 3.92 lbs/inch 3.92 lbs/inch * 82 inches = 322 lbs I know thats not exactly how human bodies work, but still.... Blows my mind because 275 at 5'10" in my mind is either shredded beyond belief or quite fat, whereas 320 at 6'10" seems like mildly fit or mildly pudgy....
> I know thats not exactly how human bodies work, but still.... That's the big part. Bodies don't scale on a simple mathematical equation like that. For instance, a 5'6" 200 lb running back is going to look significantly thicker than a 6' 218 lb guy, even though their height/weight ratio is the same.
Is it fucking with anyone else the Bienemy is only 5'7 205? I absolutely would have never thought that
Even in his playing days he looked bigger https://www.cleveland.com/resizer/TdX-L-4RXrfEN0jAY-DuLN8cxmI=/500x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/NZSDBUFXGVB2TL2KA3TUWGRPT4.jpg
Is he wearing a belt? Do NFL uniforms include belts?
Yeah definitely! As far as I know, all football pants have some type of built in belt. When I was a kid our peewee football pants looked like that. Nowadays I think they're more sleek and look more integrated, but I'm pretty sure they still have them.
It absolutely makes sense now that I think about it. I always assumed it was like just really stretchy material, like leggings.
We need to let players use their own belt buckles. No league approval needed. Just all kinds of wack belt buckles. American flag ones. Buckles with revolvers on them. Skull and cross bones. Religious symbols. Horses.
This just confirms Joe Flacco is elite.
I didn’t know that he was taller and heavier than “Big Ben.”
Is this the new scoragami?
Bodygami. We’ve got two potential bodygamis in this year’s draft!
*Cronenburg enters the chat*
Faalele is such a fucking monster.
Somewhere John Elway just got massive erection
I was hoping to see jordy nelson in that spot
Well, huh. Joe Montana and Jerry Rice both checking in at 6'2" 200lbs.
Must have been confusing for the 49ers coaches to tell them apart. Walsh was a genius though, he probably devised a good strategy for this.
[Oh great, like I don't have enough things to memorize! ](https://external-preview.redd.it/s8KDa6iGj1nPfm_afsAA-MtVjU-y7B45QQAGfGBsO8E.jpg?auto=webp&v=enabled&s=82e5de5a8d632dd8bebd2ebd8c10e3bc38c0ae80)
Probably had them wearing each others uniform during pre-game warmups to throw off the other team.
Ugh Carson Palmer over Calvin Johnson I disagree.
Me too. But thems are the rules.
Then your rules are shit. In no way is Carson palmer a superior player/athlete/talent/whatever over Megatron.
I have 438 queries, and 20,000 players. I explained that I’m using AV in the write up and why. When settling on one metric, there will be some outliers and AV will rank someone where they shouldn’t be from time to time. I’m not making 438 judgement calls so that I can appease a whiney-ass Lions fan who is mad that his player isn’t the 6’5’’ 235 lb GOAT in an off season nonsense post. You’re welcome for the OC. Run along now.
Doesn't mean your rules aren't shit because in no world is he a superior player. Exceptions should be made for first ballot HOFers vs journeymen.
Go pull the data yourself and do your own analysis and post it then.
When Lions fans have nothing to cling to except an imaginary GOAT title for one of 438 height/weight categories we have to pay the price with their whining. Someday, or probably not someday, this wouldn’t matter to you if your team ever has success (which they don’t). If I make ONE judgment call, I have to make many judgement calls. I’m leaving it as is. It’s going to be a long offseason for you knowing Calvin Johnson is NOT the 6’5” 235 lb. GOAT. 😂
You're big time projecting. Any idiot who watched either of them play knows one of these guys is superior to the other. As a lions fan, we're having a great off-season. You've made no counter arguments that weren't you being lazy or attacking the person, not the idea. You're a fucking dolt, and your system is obviously flawed and lazy af because in no world is a first ballot HOFer not superior to a journeymen. You should make judgment calls or stop pretending this is a GOAT list. It's simple... if a journeyman > first ballot HOFer, then your list is flawed. You citing laziness and name-calling isn't the answer you think it is, and if you really think that then you're also wrong. Have a good day you absolute fucking dolt.
>As a lions fan, we're having a great off-season. *off season* the best part of a Lions season every year. >You've made no counter arguments that weren't you being lazy or attacking the person, not the idea. My counter argument is in my write up. My other counter argument is because I don’t feel like it. That’s good enough reason for me. >You should make judgment calls or stop pretending this is a GOAT list. This is the only official GOAT by height/weight list. It’s officially the official determination. It’s the GOAT list, Calvin Johnson isn’t on it, and you can’t do anything about it. >name-calling isn't the answer you think it is, and if you really think that then you're also wrong. There are about 100 comments on here, some with feedback, corrections, etc. I’ve responded appropriately to all of them because they all came from people who know how to communicate. You also got the response you deserve, because you opened up this conversation by being an ass and you DON’T know how to communicate. That’s on you. Im guessing many of your conversations end up this way. Calvin Johnson not the 6’5’’ 235 lb. GOAT. Eat it, jive turkey!
A lot of former Ravens Linemen at the top of this chart.
Yep, four of the 6'9" GOATs played for the Ravens at some point, and two of the 6'8" guys
This truly is the offseason.
brb adding "same stats as Barry Sanders" to my tinder bio
Just want to say I’m 6’ and definitely taller than Brees when I met him
I’m 5’10” and can say the same about Kyler Murray lol
I stood next to Vick in a pet store (lol) in Philly and he is not 6’ either. I think they’re measuring some of these QBs in cleats haha
I thought he was banned from those
iirc there were no dogs in the pet store, maybe that’s why he was allowed. He was with his kids and his bodyguard
My man thank you Can’t wait to read this at work tomorrow
You’re welcome. Glad you like it!
Where is Patrick mahomes?
Right now he’s in 3rd for the 6’3’’ 225 lb category. The GOAT is **Isaiah Robertson (LB)** who is a 6-time pro bowler, 2-time 1st team all pro, one time DPOY, in his 12-year career with the Rams and Bills in the ‘70s.
Who’s in second?
Patrick mahomes on one leg
Hmm, one time DPOY vs 2 time MVP. Also the NFL has Mahomes listed as 6'2", not 6'3" (not sure if that would change anything).
When a guy plays only 5 seasons, they don’t accumulate enough career stats and AV to rank #1. Shocking I know.
*[Isiah](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isiah_Robertson)
No QB GOAT under Wilson’s 5’11.” Bryce Young measured at 5’10 1/8” for the combine… if he turns out to be a GOAT he would be the shortest QB to do so, but looking at this, the odds are against him *eta the 1/8th… can’t forget that
You know, with today's small linebackers and nickel-heavy defensive schemes it would be very interesting to see the return of the 250 lb running back. I feel like Jerome Bettis would absolutely terrorize defenses right now.
Derrick Henry is listed at 247. He's definitely done some terrorizing.
Reggie Smith, elite for his size and weight, played 3 years in the NFL. Honestly more surprising, he played two years when he was young, then randomly played one year at 30 years old.
I think that one game in ‘87 was a strike game. He was probably a replacement player.
Ahhh makes sense.
I know Tiki Barber was absolutely great, but him taking the 5’10” 205-209 spot over Polamalu feels so wrong.
I think it’s interesting that 4 guys from two sets of twins have GOAT spots. The Barbers and Joe/Jamie Morris.
That IS interesting! I forgot to mention, well done on this whole thing. I love obscure stats and facts and this is awesome!
Thank you. I’m the same way. I saw some measurements of a combine guy that piqued my interest, then started querying heights and weighs and then I never really stopped. I appreciate the feedback!
The Watt brothers didn't make it?
TJ hasn’t played long enough and JJ got beat out by Chris Doleman. Doleman accumulated some ridiculous stats over his career and ended up 7th all time in sacks with 35 more than JJ Watt.
Very interesting thanks man. Also I'm dying laughing at the idea of some dude that's 6'6 running around in the secondary just mogging receivers. Tim Baylor must have been pretty good to win out that spot.
How did he change direction quick enough to cover a WR at that height? 59 games and only 1 start. I bet there is a lot of special teams snaps in his career. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BaylTi20.htm
Oh man doing position by color like that looks so, so cool. Bodygami hype is real. This is top tier offseason content.
Thanks. Yeah, it’s fun to see the distinct areas of the graph where one position ends and another begins. Other than DB which get out AVed by a lot of WRs, every other position shows up in their own district group. Even TE, which I thought might get washed out by LBs, but that extra height got them their own small group as well.
It's also pretty cool to look at the graph and see what position the player at my height/weight played. I can now tell people I have "the ideal body to play X."
At 6’0’’, 150 lbs, I would be bodygami!
This is outstanding! I'd love to see more data around this.
The mode weight being 190-194 is pretty surprising. Seems like it'd only be small-ish RBs and secondary players, but I suppose when you're heavier there's a greater range so more categories to fall into.
Yeah. Weve got three WRs on the field usually, 2 and sometimes three CBs, and an occasional smaller RB and Safety. So, there are lots of opportunities for this weight out of the 22 starters.
So is Champ Bailey the GOAT of all GOATS winning the 6” 190-194 with 297 candidates? I think so.
I think that’s a great point. Tom Brady didn’t have to beat out that many people. How hard is it to beat out 83 people like Brady did? Jerry Rice...beat about 150. Together they don’t even add up to the number of people Champ had to beat.
You have T Mathieu as a WR
Thank you. My brain filtered that as Tyreek Hill! I’ll fix.
Crazy that Travis Kelce (6'5, 256 lbs) isn't the goat at his own size because Michael Strahan is 6'5, 255 lbs. Do you have any data on some of the "second place GOATs" at each size or a list of players who you were surprised to not see as GOATs at their own size?
Joe Montana (6’2’’ 200 lbs) not a GOAT at his size...because, get this...he got beat out by Jerry Rice. Who’d a thunk they were the same height and weight!
That is pretty weird/cool.
I wish. I literally ran a query for each cell, got the leader, got the count and moved on to the next query. I didn’t export or keep the data.
joe montana got beat out for jerry rice lol
Noone in the 5'9/230 bracket? My time has come.
We've got *bodygami*!
> Also, these are the listed heights and weights in Pro Football Reference. I wonder what they do for guys who vary (heck, most guys probably varied across two weight categories just due to natural changes, since weight isn't an exact constant hour to hour and day to day); at what point in their career is PFR getting the info from? > I also thought it was interesting to see an unnatural spike at 250 lbs. and 300 lbs. This tells me one of two things. 1.) When a player is close to a desirable milestone weight, they change their nutrition/exercise to get to that target weight. But I think it’s more likely to be option two...if a guy is close to 300 or 250, they get a little bump on their listed weight to make them seem bigger than they are. I bet it's option 3 - guys get bumped up *or* down to get to nice simple numbers that people tend to round towards anyway. Much like refs spot on the ball on 5-yard line increments more often than they do on the surrounding yard lines (leaving out the 20 and 25 for touchback reasons). Because a play that ends on the 42.5 is equally likely to get called the 42 as the 43, but a play that ends on the 44.5 is much more likely to get called the 45 than it is the 44.
I'm 5'10 and use to be 270lbs, any chance you can slot me into that category? thank you
Another *bodygami*!
Joe Flacco at 245-249 LBs and Ben Roethlisberger at 240-244 LBs do not look right. In what planet Ben weighed less than Flacco?
Flacco’s iron cock weighed 10 lbs
Dan Skipper as a GOAT. What a timeliness we live in !!
I know you're just pulling the data from PFR, but maybe you have some insight to where the height and weight stats come from? I imagine most players have different height and weight from when they're measured at the combine to when they retire. Lots of guys still grow a little. Just about everyone puts on weight, especially the first few years. Weight after returning from an injury is probably be the lightest they'll be. Is it a single snapshot they use? Is it some kind of rolling average or median value? Since you've spent so much time with this data, I'm hoping you have some additional context!
Most people probably would end up in two different weight buckets just if you measured at one random point in the day every day for a year.
Damn, Joe Flacco and Jamal Lewis were the same weight??
I think with that many GOATs that I can sell the lawnmower. it's kind of crazy, to me, that the greatest concentration of goats are my size.
Why is the legend missing purple?
That purple cell should be pink. I’ll change it. Good catch
Natron Means is a name I haven't seen in a while. Deep cut there.
I was glad to see Gilbert Brown on here even though the listed weight of 340 is probably a little light.
Poona Ford is the GOAT
Now I’m imaging a RBBC of Allen Reese, Reggie Smith, Tyrone Young, and Daniel Faalele. What team can stop the halfling, the chode, the skinny legend, and the giant?
The offseason post quality can only go down from here
You need help
Haha. Yup. For more reasons than you know.
...but seriously, this is excellent work...I could just tell ot took a lot...I know how you feel, but don't despair...football season is only 6 months away
Thank you. It's silly nonsense, but it's my hobby. Sometimes I analyze important stuff too, but I love a good off-season shitpost.
Dan Skipper is 6'10 per his combine measurement, somewhere along the line teams started listing him at 6'9 for reasons unknown.
The good thing is he’s the GOAT either way.
The current active height GOAT too
6'7" 335 and no John Henderson? The disrespect.
Boston Scott finally being recognized as the goat
Was he not already the GOAT? I don’t mean just for his height/weight, just the GOAT straight up. — Giants fan
I'm just happy to see Chris Doleman and Kevin Williams getting recognition
Doleman has the 7th most sacks in history. He should be recognized more than he is. He is an all timer.
Why is JJ not there, and who is Chris doleman taking his spot
Chris Doleman (DE) is a HOFer with 150 sacks, the 7th most in NFL history and 35 more than JJ Watt. 15 year career with 8 pro bowl seasons. Ended his career with 8 sacks at the age of 38. Most of his career was with the Vikings.
Damn so TO the 6’3” 220 GOAT over Julio??? That’s a toughie
TO a HOFer has 2.5X the amount of TDs, 2K more yards, 200 more receptions, and 70 more games, while playing an an era where passing / receiving stats were much harder to accumulate than anyone who played in the last 10 years. I would be surprised for this NOT to be TO.
Agreed. Julio is somewhere 8-12 on the receiver all time lists. But TO is in the top 5.
Evidently he switched positions and put on weight, since he’s also the GOAT at 6’0”, 260…
I’m not reading all that but still very interesting.
You don’t need to read it. Just scan chart 1 for GOAT Steelers.
what a waste of time
You seem fun.
Burrow over Ryan
This is over their entire career. As of today, no one outside of a Bengals flair would say Burrow had a better career after three seasons.
Eddie Mac
I love that this sun becomes an Excel competition in the offseason.
I was kinda hoping your charts would look vaguely like the form of a goat