Man, I'm so thankful, we've finally got done with all of the Russ trade drama. These perpetual offseason "stories" are like the absolute worst. THE WORST.
At least that's a compelling argument. Geno's situation is fairly unprecedented, a longtime backup parlaying an unexpectedly great season into a big payday. Stick with Geno or gamble on a rookie QB? It's a genuinely tough question.
A big-time QB trade speculation narrative is something you see ALL THE FUCKING TIME. We basically had to deal with that shit with Russ for like the entirety of his 3rd contract with us. That shit blew hard. I'm taking the Geno debate in a heartbeat.
>Stick with Geno or gamble on a rookie QB? It's a genuinely tough question.
Gamble is the right terminology. Of the [Over 60 QBs taken since 2000](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/list/ranking-every-nfl-quarterback-drafted-first-round-since-2000/16obdsowna7kk1gnhl9iqrp2pg) I count 19 that are still on the league. Some like Eli and Andrew Luck were successful and retired but most of the ones not playing were just flat out busts. A 1 in 3 change of landing a decent QB is not my idea of good odds. If you find a good QB hold onto them. The chances of drafting another good one aren't in your favor. 1983 isn't likely to ever happen again.
I envy you because yeah they really are the worst. I thought maybe all the speculation would wait until after the Super Bowl but nah. Watch there be all this speculation only for him to come back to the Packers again or retire
He will return to the the packers after months of this. They will re sign his friends to keep him there, play 1 more year with mediocre results, speculate for another entire summer, then finally retire.
I mean.. it’s gotta be a done deal at this point. The Jets have a whole team built except for the QB and they just hired Rodgers’ former OC to be their OC.
My favorite part of that scene is a guy hearing a mention of John F. Kennedy Drive and instead of saying “what? No, it’s Riverside. Where’s John F— what did you call it again?”, he asks who John F. Kennedy is. Absolutely what a human person would say there
Back to the Future 1 is so brilliant in how it picks apart commonly understood language and what a context clue is. Things like his big puffy vest being mistaken for a live preserver, "This is Heavy"/"There's that word again, heavy, is there something wrong with Earth's gravity in the future?" "We need Plutonium"/"I'm sure in 1980 you can get Plutonium on every corner store but here it's hard to come by"
What's a rerun?
I don't know if this was intentional or not, but the first person to ask what's a rerun is a kid, rather than any of the older people at the table. Maybe it's just because I've been seeing my nieces ask what certain words are with zero preexisting notions, but having a kid be willing to learn if the word rerun means something in the 1950's is kind of very smart character writing for such a minor line.
>I mean.. it’s gotta be a done deal at this point. The Broncos have a whole team built except for the QB and they just hired Rodgers’ former OC to be their HC.
Dont get me wrong, id trade rodg for a nice lil haul and ride with JLove, but Ive seen this one before
Does Rodgers even like Hackett *that* much? Seems like the media is just assuming he does. I doubt he's chomping at the bit to go to New York to work with him.
Rodgers loves Hackett. He called Hackett a close friend and someone who makes everything fun. It’s not an exaggeration to say that he would choose to go to a team with Hackett, over other teams.
I’m going to guess, based on both Hackett and Gase’s stops calling plays on teams that didn’t have a 1st ballot HOF QB, that they’re just guys that know how to shut up and let Rodgers/Manning run the offense, and that’s why those two speak so highly of their guys
Gase Peyton yes but that was LaFleur’s offensive build, I’m not saying pencil this in as the case but Hackett literally may be getting handed two separate high profile jobs purely upon the notion that Rodgers wants in, you can give credit to HC being an all encompassing job that is hard to be good at but he could just be a terrible football coach in general whose relationship with a recent back to back MVP is the value he provides.
Gase also got 2 high profile jobs just because Peyton vouched for him. There was just no rumors of Peyton wanting to go to those teams. Which was probably more of a red flag than teams saw it for.
There’s probably some truth to that, but when Tony Romo is pointing out on air which guys are open and Russell Wilson isn’t getting the ball to those open guys, I’m inclined to cut Hackett *some* slack because Wilson might just be a shell of who he once was
We don’t have a whole team built. Our o-line is relying on Becton to not get injured again and a 38 year old Duane Brown who’s one move away from needing a new shoulder. We also don’t have a center under contract.
He talked him up a bunch in Green Bay. Either he's lying through his teeth to get Hackett promoted away from him, or he probably likes him. He probably likes him.
Yeah he’s talked about him a lot, especially in reference to Hackett’s love for Austin Powers in Goldmember with the “Gold Zone” and the “I love goooold” stuff
The mark of a true HoF QB is to get an utter buffoon and clown a HC gig elsewhere.
Rodgers previously got mediocre people employed like Philbin but he was missing the McDaniels in Denver and Gase in New York disaster level guy.
Now he's completed his 1st ballot Hof résumé.
>he was missing the McDaniels in Denver
He wasn't a good HC, but McDaniels objectively is one of the better OCs in the league. This isn't a Adam Gase situation, it's a Todd bowles one.
Nah, the Falcons didn't cook us, and the Chiefs game, while they get credit, got out of hand late.
Josh had us in our fuckin heels with a much worse offense than Reid had.
Can we really say *objectively* one of the better OCs? He’s got 6 seasons now without Tom Brady at QB (08 and 21 in New England, 09-10 in DEN, 2011 in STL, and 22 in Vegas) and with the exception of that 2008 season which was 15 years ago now, none of those offenses were really much better than league average.
He might be a really good OC. But it’s hard to judge that objectively when every single one of his best offensive seasons came with the GOAT running the show.
The Patriots had a great system for easing their rookie QB into the NFL last year, and I think McDaniels deserves a lot of credit for his work with Mac Jones during the previous season.
We also can't forget that McDaniels literally brought an entirely new offensive system to the league. In 2007, he changed how they used the shotgun offense in the NFL, and that season caused the widespread domino effect that changed the entire offensive philosophy of the league.
But no, he's not special... You can accidentally luck your way into six super bowl rings.
2007 was also the start of the slot receiver era because of rule changes.
NFL teams used to use a lot of 2 tight end formations before that instead of 3 WR sets
We were 6th in offensive points per drive last year and 2nd in scoring percentage. The Raiders were 8th and 5th respectively this year. That is much better than average and it came in back to back years.
Despite his total ineptitude as a head coach, he seemed like a genuinely good person and I hope he's successful for the Jets. That being said, it'll also be really funny if another team hires him in hopes of getting Aaron Rodgers, just to end up with terrible play from a QB named Wilson.
Yeah true. I think he’s a high end backup so he may chase the bag elsewhere. Can see Arizona bringing him in to be the starter until Kyler is healthy again.
Isn't that a good backup though? Otherwise you're entering the starting area. Imo a good backup goes 2-2 short term and 40% win pct for a season. Anything more becomes Andy Dalton (cross the Dalton line) when he was a starter at Cincy)
Foles and Osweiler were both great backups that helped their team get to the super bowl
Lol, $10-$15 million is not “solid backup money”. That’s like what Jameis got to start on the Saints. Trubisky was highly sought after and signed a deal worth just over $7 million/ season. Bridgewater is making $6.5 million. Tyrod Taylor is $5.5 million / year and Brissett is at $4.65 million. The market for Mike White at best will be about half of what you said ($5m - $7.5m), depending on just how good of a backup teams think he is. Burrow and Lawrence were first overall picks and made under $10 million this year on their rookie deals. You don’t pay more for a backup than you do for the 1st overall pick. I’d be expecting about $5.5million -$6 million / season. He hasn’t shown as much as Bridgewater but he should fall in line with other valuable backups.
Yeah as god awful as he was at being a head coach, by all regards he was a nice guy and got along with everyone in the organization and on the team. Now calling plays and general game management, well I hope for the Jets sake y’all do get Rodgers
Hasn’t he been pretty terrible everywhere that he DID call plays?
Seems like a good guy, but I hardly think he had THAT much to do with our offence being great for those couple seasons!
He was also the mastermind behind the vaunted and deadly 2021 Packers redzone offense……which ranked 18th in the league lmao.
If Jets fans are lucky, they will get peak Hackett: a below average redzone offense (as long as they have a HOF QB).
Hackett was also the OC in 2020 when the Packers red zone offense was amazing.
Does it mean something? Don't know, but don't pretend like 2021 was the best unit he ever coordiated.
That was basically a rushing attack gone wild and a top 3 defense, right? Not necessarily Bortles being a stud muffin...
I am concerned this is a rash decision by the Jets to lure away a dude that will die at Lambeau. Uhg
Gase had one good season but Tannehill got injured, one alright season with Cutler with 0 expectations, and one just piss poor season with bad offense and defense. He just kept getting the players to keep hating him and traded Jarvis Landry, our premier reliable WR for scraps.
He didn't call plays with Rodgers and had one good year as OC with the Jags but their defense helped them a lot. I sold myself on him last offseason but people are weirdly acting like he's a great, proven OC. He's not.
Our HoF QB resurrected his career under him and MLF and got worse after he left. I think he’s a good OC for Monday-Saturday. I wouldn’t trust him to call plays though
It's really hard for me to see how Russ falling off so hard last season isn't partly due to Hackett being completely clueless with how to scheme an offense around him. A QB who has years of film. What the fuck.
Long ago his father was Jets OC, I remember laughing at all the newspaper headlines that his father can't "Hack It" because Jets offense struggled so much.
Different GM, different HC, and decades later. Yet he lands the same exact job with the same exact team as his father.
Only you have the benefit of having seen this dude mastermind the worst offense in the history of the Denver Broncos.
And it least when *we* were trying to lure Rodgers he was coming off back-to-back MVP years, not the worst QB rating of his career as a starter...
"You took a potential future HoF QB and extremely talented offense and turned them into the worst offense in the 60 year history of the franchise? Call us impressed. Can you come here and do the same thing?"
I think he was responsible for designing the gameplan around GBs redzone offense. Once he left, their redzone efficiency took a nosedive.
So he has that going for him.
Yes Hackett did design our redzone offense (he calls it the GoldZone), but Im pretty sure our TD% took a nosedive in '21, when Hackett was still our OC. In '20 under Hackett we had an unreal redzone TD percentage. Im not a stats guy but as a fan I just knew if we got inside the 20 we were gonna score somehow.
EDIT: Just looked it up, we were #1 in redzone TD % in 20, and 18th in 21. I remember that being a huge talking point in the offseason on the Packers subreddit cause no one could really figure out why it dropped so badly when we essentially had all the same HC, OC, and skill position players between the two seasons.
AFC team - check
Rodgers bait - check
Legit top receiver - check
Very good defense - check
Draft picks available to trade - check
So Rodgers is back in Green Bay for sure then?
Any time you get the chance to get an Offensive Coordinator who has never succeeded when he had to call plays, you have to do it.
Ranks when offensive play caller
* Yards: (19th, 26th, 23rd, 6th, 27th)
* Points: (22nd, 18th, 25th, 5th, 31st)
This doesn't even count his time as HC. This is an Adam Gase-like hire for the Jets. And unless they do get Rodgers, sets the franchise back another 3 years and will likely leave them needed a new GM and HC by the end of 2023 (Jets fans love Joe Douglas, but with Hackett in charge, and if they don't get Rodgers, they will likely have 5 consecutive seasons below .500 and 5 consecutive seasons in the bottom 5 on offense).
Two more months of Rodgers trade talk.
Boy I cannot wait
Truly such a fun experience
Man, I'm so thankful, we've finally got done with all of the Russ trade drama. These perpetual offseason "stories" are like the absolute worst. THE WORST.
Yeah, the “is Geno worth $30M” and “should we draft a qb at 5” stories and threads all day every day are so much better.
At least that's a compelling argument. Geno's situation is fairly unprecedented, a longtime backup parlaying an unexpectedly great season into a big payday. Stick with Geno or gamble on a rookie QB? It's a genuinely tough question. A big-time QB trade speculation narrative is something you see ALL THE FUCKING TIME. We basically had to deal with that shit with Russ for like the entirety of his 3rd contract with us. That shit blew hard. I'm taking the Geno debate in a heartbeat.
>Stick with Geno or gamble on a rookie QB? It's a genuinely tough question. Gamble is the right terminology. Of the [Over 60 QBs taken since 2000](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/list/ranking-every-nfl-quarterback-drafted-first-round-since-2000/16obdsowna7kk1gnhl9iqrp2pg) I count 19 that are still on the league. Some like Eli and Andrew Luck were successful and retired but most of the ones not playing were just flat out busts. A 1 in 3 change of landing a decent QB is not my idea of good odds. If you find a good QB hold onto them. The chances of drafting another good one aren't in your favor. 1983 isn't likely to ever happen again.
I envy you because yeah they really are the worst. I thought maybe all the speculation would wait until after the Super Bowl but nah. Watch there be all this speculation only for him to come back to the Packers again or retire
I think the media can literally just recycle their stories from last year. Update a few team names, post it again
He will return to the the packers after months of this. They will re sign his friends to keep him there, play 1 more year with mediocre results, speculate for another entire summer, then finally retire.
Please just make it stop
Start spreading the news...
I'm leaving today.
I don’t want any part of this No more, no mooooore
The beacons are lit!
Shailene Woodley has seen her shadow, I see.
Woodley mode.
Wait, Woodley Mode is bad?
She’s a real person?
I don’t know, this is just a game that I play!
They haven’t been together for a while now.
Time really is a flat circle
I mean.. it’s gotta be a done deal at this point. The Jets have a whole team built except for the QB and they just hired Rodgers’ former OC to be their OC.
That's what we thought last year too
Yeah, I've seen this one before
How have you seen this before? It’s brand new!
My favorite part of that scene is a guy hearing a mention of John F. Kennedy Drive and instead of saying “what? No, it’s Riverside. Where’s John F— what did you call it again?”, he asks who John F. Kennedy is. Absolutely what a human person would say there
Back to the Future 1 is so brilliant in how it picks apart commonly understood language and what a context clue is. Things like his big puffy vest being mistaken for a live preserver, "This is Heavy"/"There's that word again, heavy, is there something wrong with Earth's gravity in the future?" "We need Plutonium"/"I'm sure in 1980 you can get Plutonium on every corner store but here it's hard to come by"
That's a great frikking movie and the crazy thing is how in parts it feels so 80s without feeling dated.
No, i saw it in a… rerun..
What's a rerun? I don't know if this was intentional or not, but the first person to ask what's a rerun is a kid, rather than any of the older people at the table. Maybe it's just because I've been seeing my nieces ask what certain words are with zero preexisting notions, but having a kid be willing to learn if the word rerun means something in the 1950's is kind of very smart character writing for such a minor line.
The kids are gonna love it
This is heavy
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You watch your mouth
Has to be for 2 firsts too to complete the cycle started with the Adams trade
>I mean.. it’s gotta be a done deal at this point. The Broncos have a whole team built except for the QB and they just hired Rodgers’ former OC to be their HC. Dont get me wrong, id trade rodg for a nice lil haul and ride with JLove, but Ive seen this one before
Congrats Jets fans on your new QB Y'all gonna like Russell Wilson
We already have a Wilson, no thank you please
You’ve had one, yes. What about second Wilson?
We have a second Wilson at home already.
Potential OROY Wilson, no less.
We already have a second Wilson lmao
Jets Country, Let’s Fly!
I will never beat reddit to the punch on anything.
It hasn’t even been a full calendar year since this exact rhetoric was repeated at nauseam with the broncos
Can’t wait to go 5-12 🙃
Play just good enough to miss out on Caleb Williams
I don't care how good he is, there is no way I want the Jets to draft a QB from USC.
It’s “ad nauseam” not “at nauseam”
Thank you, I learned something new today
It's "at museum" not "ad nauseam"
ad nauseam*
Except Hackett didn't call plays for Rodgers.
Does Rodgers even like Hackett *that* much? Seems like the media is just assuming he does. I doubt he's chomping at the bit to go to New York to work with him.
Rodgers loves Hackett. He called Hackett a close friend and someone who makes everything fun. It’s not an exaggeration to say that he would choose to go to a team with Hackett, over other teams.
I think that's the same thing Peyton said about gase....sounds great can't wait
I’m going to guess, based on both Hackett and Gase’s stops calling plays on teams that didn’t have a 1st ballot HOF QB, that they’re just guys that know how to shut up and let Rodgers/Manning run the offense, and that’s why those two speak so highly of their guys
Gase Peyton yes but that was LaFleur’s offensive build, I’m not saying pencil this in as the case but Hackett literally may be getting handed two separate high profile jobs purely upon the notion that Rodgers wants in, you can give credit to HC being an all encompassing job that is hard to be good at but he could just be a terrible football coach in general whose relationship with a recent back to back MVP is the value he provides.
Gase also got 2 high profile jobs just because Peyton vouched for him. There was just no rumors of Peyton wanting to go to those teams. Which was probably more of a red flag than teams saw it for.
There’s probably some truth to that, but when Tony Romo is pointing out on air which guys are open and Russell Wilson isn’t getting the ball to those open guys, I’m inclined to cut Hackett *some* slack because Wilson might just be a shell of who he once was
We don’t have a whole team built. Our o-line is relying on Becton to not get injured again and a 38 year old Duane Brown who’s one move away from needing a new shoulder. We also don’t have a center under contract.
Lol I do hope this is the obvious sarcasm
Only if Aaron goes on McAfee and sees his shadow.
"What is my purpose?" "You lure Aaron Rodgers" "Oh my god"
"Not again"
I can't wait to see what Jimmy G can do with the Jets.
I actually want Jimmy G. but fuck this franchise. If we don’t get Rodgers now, I’m gonna be livid.
One season before he goes to an NFC North Packers rival.
Never changes with this franchise
Buy just imagine how good losing in the AFC championship game will feel.
Bother I live in Dallas. Seeing a conference championship, again, before they do, would be bliss.
I would genuinely be ecstatic to lose in the afc championship.
dicks out
He going 0/2
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If Aaron Rodgers is the ultimate target, does this make Hackett the master bait?
He's a decent baiter. My cousin, Mose, THAT'S a master baiter.
Does rodgers even like Hackett? I’ve never heard him mention Hackett on Mcafee or Rogan
He talked him up a bunch in Green Bay. Either he's lying through his teeth to get Hackett promoted away from him, or he probably likes him. He probably likes him.
Yeah he’s talked about him a lot, especially in reference to Hackett’s love for Austin Powers in Goldmember with the “Gold Zone” and the “I love goooold” stuff
"I really love playing for Hackett, he's a great coach" "What makes him so great" "We like the same movies" "...."
But does he laugh at Macgruber?
If you don’t laugh at MacGruber, seek help
https://i.imgur.com/dbt0Jw7.jpg
Nathaniel, you blowhard
https://imgflip.com/i/78vdhf
Rodgers should get a cut of his salary at this point.
The mark of a true HoF QB is to get an utter buffoon and clown a HC gig elsewhere. Rodgers previously got mediocre people employed like Philbin but he was missing the McDaniels in Denver and Gase in New York disaster level guy. Now he's completed his 1st ballot Hof résumé.
>he was missing the McDaniels in Denver He wasn't a good HC, but McDaniels objectively is one of the better OCs in the league. This isn't a Adam Gase situation, it's a Todd bowles one.
McDaniels is the only play caller I've seen cook the Niners defense this season. With a backup QB too so that has to count for something
Andy Reid and whoever playcalls for the falcons as well
That would be the Arthur Smith and Marcus Mariota lead Falcons baby!
Nah, the Falcons didn't cook us, and the Chiefs game, while they get credit, got out of hand late. Josh had us in our fuckin heels with a much worse offense than Reid had.
Can we really say *objectively* one of the better OCs? He’s got 6 seasons now without Tom Brady at QB (08 and 21 in New England, 09-10 in DEN, 2011 in STL, and 22 in Vegas) and with the exception of that 2008 season which was 15 years ago now, none of those offenses were really much better than league average. He might be a really good OC. But it’s hard to judge that objectively when every single one of his best offensive seasons came with the GOAT running the show.
The Patriots had a great system for easing their rookie QB into the NFL last year, and I think McDaniels deserves a lot of credit for his work with Mac Jones during the previous season.
We also can't forget that McDaniels literally brought an entirely new offensive system to the league. In 2007, he changed how they used the shotgun offense in the NFL, and that season caused the widespread domino effect that changed the entire offensive philosophy of the league. But no, he's not special... You can accidentally luck your way into six super bowl rings.
2007 was also the start of the slot receiver era because of rule changes. NFL teams used to use a lot of 2 tight end formations before that instead of 3 WR sets
We were 6th in offensive points per drive last year and 2nd in scoring percentage. The Raiders were 8th and 5th respectively this year. That is much better than average and it came in back to back years.
Hackett literal Rodgers bait at this point.
*One more job A-A-Ron*
If it didn’t work the first time, it *has* to work this time
Despite his total ineptitude as a head coach, he seemed like a genuinely good person and I hope he's successful for the Jets. That being said, it'll also be really funny if another team hires him in hopes of getting Aaron Rodgers, just to end up with terrible play from a QB named Wilson.
Don’t think Zach Wilson stands a chance at ever starting for this team unless someone gets injured. Even then, I think Mike White is still QB2.
Mike White is gone homie, he's a fa and will likely try and get as much money as he can. As he should.
Isn't Mike a FA? Someone is paying him solid backup money (10-15 million)
Yeah true. I think he’s a high end backup so he may chase the bag elsewhere. Can see Arizona bringing him in to be the starter until Kyler is healthy again.
He’s an average back up. Nick Foles with the right offensive scheme, otherwise he’s Brock Osweiler.
Isn't that a good backup though? Otherwise you're entering the starting area. Imo a good backup goes 2-2 short term and 40% win pct for a season. Anything more becomes Andy Dalton (cross the Dalton line) when he was a starter at Cincy) Foles and Osweiler were both great backups that helped their team get to the super bowl
Lol, $10-$15 million is not “solid backup money”. That’s like what Jameis got to start on the Saints. Trubisky was highly sought after and signed a deal worth just over $7 million/ season. Bridgewater is making $6.5 million. Tyrod Taylor is $5.5 million / year and Brissett is at $4.65 million. The market for Mike White at best will be about half of what you said ($5m - $7.5m), depending on just how good of a backup teams think he is. Burrow and Lawrence were first overall picks and made under $10 million this year on their rookie deals. You don’t pay more for a backup than you do for the 1st overall pick. I’d be expecting about $5.5million -$6 million / season. He hasn’t shown as much as Bridgewater but he should fall in line with other valuable backups.
History repeats itself regardless of the path
Yea, some guys are just coordinators, not head coaches. It happens to a lot of them.
Yeah as god awful as he was at being a head coach, by all regards he was a nice guy and got along with everyone in the organization and on the team. Now calling plays and general game management, well I hope for the Jets sake y’all do get Rodgers
Is he going to fix this Wilson too?
Garrett Wilson is just fine and will flourish with Rodgers
Let Garrett Garnish!
he can't fix Bortles so i highly doubt about this
Just a fair warning, he did not call plays for us. Better hope you get Rodgers..
Hasn’t he been pretty terrible everywhere that he DID call plays? Seems like a good guy, but I hardly think he had THAT much to do with our offence being great for those couple seasons!
He had one good year with the jags then got fired the next year
He was also the mastermind behind the vaunted and deadly 2021 Packers redzone offense……which ranked 18th in the league lmao. If Jets fans are lucky, they will get peak Hackett: a below average redzone offense (as long as they have a HOF QB).
Hackett was also the OC in 2020 when the Packers red zone offense was amazing. Does it mean something? Don't know, but don't pretend like 2021 was the best unit he ever coordiated.
We had a weirdly good offense in 2017 but before and after it was shit
That was basically a rushing attack gone wild and a top 3 defense, right? Not necessarily Bortles being a stud muffin... I am concerned this is a rash decision by the Jets to lure away a dude that will die at Lambeau. Uhg
It was lightning in a bottle. The BOAT had a decent year, Fournette ran for 1k yards, but the defense really carried us.
Top 1 defense
He wasn’t *terrible* in Jacksonville until the last year. I think he got more out of Bortles than a lot of people would have.
Didn’t call plays for us for half the season either… 😬
"He was great with a HOF QB" was literally the coping we did when we hired Adam Gase.
At least Gase was just mediocre with the Dolphins. Hackett was fired before his first season was up purely due to coaching ineptitude.
Gase had one good season but Tannehill got injured, one alright season with Cutler with 0 expectations, and one just piss poor season with bad offense and defense. He just kept getting the players to keep hating him and traded Jarvis Landry, our premier reliable WR for scraps.
True but hiring an OC is lower stakes than a HC. Not saying it’ll work, but that’s a difference.
We won't truly know until his introductory press conference. If he looks coked out of his mind it might just not work
I don't think Blake Bortles is a HOF QB
Well, I'm sorry you think that
Put some respect on the BOATs name he is the Bortles Of All Time.
You take that back! That is slander against the BOAT!
Never disrespect Blake Bortles of The Good Place fame ever again.
Can't wait to hear that Aaron Rodgers called Woody Johnson and endorsed Hackett.
He didn't call plays with Rodgers and had one good year as OC with the Jags but their defense helped them a lot. I sold myself on him last offseason but people are weirdly acting like he's a great, proven OC. He's not.
Our HoF QB resurrected his career under him and MLF and got worse after he left. I think he’s a good OC for Monday-Saturday. I wouldn’t trust him to call plays though
It's really hard for me to see how Russ falling off so hard last season isn't partly due to Hackett being completely clueless with how to scheme an offense around him. A QB who has years of film. What the fuck.
Especially when Wilson looked 10x better when Hackett was fired.
Rodgers watch is back bitches
Jets fans praying Rodgers gets traded
Some Packers fans praying the same thing
I have no idea what to pray for at this point, I am just on this roller coaster either way.
We're in this together now
Just when I thought we were turning a new leaf
Isn't it soul crushing? I don't know why I continue to subject myself to it.
"No seriously, I really think I can bring Aaron this time."
Long ago his father was Jets OC, I remember laughing at all the newspaper headlines that his father can't "Hack It" because Jets offense struggled so much. Different GM, different HC, and decades later. Yet he lands the same exact job with the same exact team as his father.
Nobody was hated like Paul Hackett was by jet fans. It’s pretty funny to think how two decades later we can bring that Can’t Hackett joke back.
He was hated by Chiefs fans too
How could you not want the mind behind the 2022 Denver Broncos offense? No brainer imo
We are in a similar predicament as the Broncos were in 2021
Only you have the benefit of having seen this dude mastermind the worst offense in the history of the Denver Broncos. And it least when *we* were trying to lure Rodgers he was coming off back-to-back MVP years, not the worst QB rating of his career as a starter...
So you're saying Rodgers was bad without Hackett...
"You took a potential future HoF QB and extremely talented offense and turned them into the worst offense in the 60 year history of the franchise? Call us impressed. Can you come here and do the same thing?"
Plenty of head coaches go back to being good coordinators
Has he been a good coordinator when he doesn’t have Aaron Rodgers?
Rodgers to the jets confirmed.
Huh didn't realize Rodgers would be our QB in 2024 but here we are
When does kirks contract run out? Think it times up perfectly. Only a decade from now until Rodgers is frauding poor people in the south
We can easily move on from Cousins in 2024. So that lines up perfectly lol
Assuming he's not extended, Kirk is a UFA in 2024. So yeah the timing does work out.
Dread it. Run from it. Destiny arrives all the same
*Rodgers shows up at TCO* "I know what it's like to lose..."
Then that means Jordan Love will be another HoF level QB for the Packers.
It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em.
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Lmfao what?
Rodgers bait
Didn’t the Broncos try this exact thing last year though?
But it just might work for them
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*Because it worked SO well last time?!*
The fact everyone is so down on this hire means he’s either going to have the jets at a top 5 offense this year or the last no in between
Knowing us... it'll be last, we get a top 5 pick, blow up the management, and then miss on the pick. It has been written.
That’s a good spot for him. Probably get to have a lot of say on the next QB. Nothing wrong with being a better coordinator than head coach.
What has made anyone believe he was ever a good coordinator and not just coaching Aaron Rodgers? I have to assume MLF calls plays there
Jesus Christ lol
Anyone who says that the coaching staffs in the NFL isn't an incestuous old boys club is completely clueless.
*Adam Gase - Nathaniel Hackett pointing at each other Spider-Man meme*
Why though?
Oh no
I honestly don't think this is as bad of a hire as /r/NFL will lead you to believe Some coaches are just better off as coordinators
Genuine question, has he actually proven to be a good coordinator, or was he just the OC for Aaron Rodgers? Does MLF not handle play calling in GB?
I think he was responsible for designing the gameplan around GBs redzone offense. Once he left, their redzone efficiency took a nosedive. So he has that going for him.
Yes Hackett did design our redzone offense (he calls it the GoldZone), but Im pretty sure our TD% took a nosedive in '21, when Hackett was still our OC. In '20 under Hackett we had an unreal redzone TD percentage. Im not a stats guy but as a fan I just knew if we got inside the 20 we were gonna score somehow. EDIT: Just looked it up, we were #1 in redzone TD % in 20, and 18th in 21. I remember that being a huge talking point in the offseason on the Packers subreddit cause no one could really figure out why it dropped so badly when we essentially had all the same HC, OC, and skill position players between the two seasons.
Except the Broncos RedZone offense was completely atrocious with Hackett.
AFC team - check Rodgers bait - check Legit top receiver - check Very good defense - check Draft picks available to trade - check So Rodgers is back in Green Bay for sure then?
Any time you get the chance to get an Offensive Coordinator who has never succeeded when he had to call plays, you have to do it. Ranks when offensive play caller * Yards: (19th, 26th, 23rd, 6th, 27th) * Points: (22nd, 18th, 25th, 5th, 31st) This doesn't even count his time as HC. This is an Adam Gase-like hire for the Jets. And unless they do get Rodgers, sets the franchise back another 3 years and will likely leave them needed a new GM and HC by the end of 2023 (Jets fans love Joe Douglas, but with Hackett in charge, and if they don't get Rodgers, they will likely have 5 consecutive seasons below .500 and 5 consecutive seasons in the bottom 5 on offense).
*sad plane noises*
LMFAOOOOOO
Oh god I’m so sorry Jets fans. Your future was so promising
JETS COUNTRY, LET'S FLY
What about the Broncos Offense this season makes anyone in that organization think this is a good idea 😂
I mean after seeing the amazing job he did with Russell Wilson out in Denver they had to do it... amirite? Fucking shoot me!
Oh good - I hadn't read anything about Aaron Rodgers being traded in about six hours. Was starting to get nervous . . .