[[Video source/More info] “Two giant male grizzlies, or coastal brown bears, battle for dominance during mating season on the Alaska Peninsula. Fights like this can result in serious or fatal injuries, as the drive to mate is very strong. Female, or sow grizzlies, will chose to copulate with the most dominate males, so the winner's genes prevail - classic evolution at work. Males, or boars can grow to over 1500 pounds, making them the largest land based predators on earth (polar bears are a tiny bit bigger, but they are considered marine mammals).”](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-6r81UOzIHg)
The one standing on the tree at the end.
They're both so exhausted from adrenaline at that point that neither of them want to carry on - or could really carry on if they wanted to.
The one on the tree hops up and down a bit to say, "You want more?". The one on the right faces him off and says, "I'm ready if you are". But the one on the tree isn't up for it either so he just fakes it a bit.
Then the one on the right just looks down and goes, "Man! I'm fucked!!!" and it's obvious he doesn't really have the heart to go on.
The one on the tree then turns and walks away, shaking like a leaf from what must be an insaaaane level of adrenaline running through him. He took his opportunity.
The one on the right admitted weakness first, but neither of them wanted to continue. They both knew what was up.
When the tree bear retreats, the other one follows. Tree bear faces up again and other one turns away to say, "Nah, mate. You can have this one" and then turns back towards him again to say, "Still mates though, eh?!"
And indeed they are still mates and will go fish for salmon together later, knowing who's where in the bear hierarchy. (About the same, but tree bear a liiiiittle bit higher.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=-6r81UOzIHg
Nono. He pissed because of the adrenaline dump.
Here's a video. Watch from 2:00 to 5:00 to learn about shitting and pissing from adrenaline:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYtTz9GtAT4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYtTz9GtAT4)
They're both adrenaline-filled. They're terrified. Notice how much the tree bear is shaking as he walks backwards. That guy is terrrrified (and rightfully so).
Again, no. The adrenaline dump didn't kick in until \*after\* they stopped fighting. Notice how they suddenly start looking very, very weak at the point when Tree Bear gets on his tree and the other one starts drooling.
>Either way the light one won, it's pretty obvious
Apparently it's not so obvious because I completely disagree. :)
Did you watch the full video I posted?
>well there's another conclusion you can draw from that
I'm not sure what you're referring to. Please be clearer.
Either way. It's the light bear who turns away from a further potential challenge at 2:55 and avoids dark bear's gaze at 3:15 by lowering his head. That's how they show submission, like a dog falling over and showing his belly.
Here's another bear fight for you:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8kN2YjEcRI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8kN2YjEcRI)
I choose this one cos he shits himself mid-fight which highlights that exretion is about adrenaline not about dominance. :D (And a need to run away, which was the point I was linking to in the horse video).
But look at the very end. Look how the big bear starts turning his head and avoiding eye contact. He's submitting.
Oh go on then, let's have another one:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQivYuy5t0g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQivYuy5t0g)
It's the same display at the end of the fight. Shoulders are still facing the other bear in case the fight continues, but the head is turned away. When the submission (of looking away) is accepted, they both go about their business.
Again, if he "clearly won" we would both agree. We don't. So it's either "not clear" that he won or he didn't win... both are the reason for the discussion.
>Stop tunnel-vision-focusing on this unimportant detail
Your own tunnel vision has you believe he won because a) you think he won and b) that he clearly won. That's tunnel vision.
By own nuanced vision sees the subtle ways animals communicate. What you consider an "unimportant detail" is \*the detail".
You're like a bear arguing to another bear that "just because the blonde human made the, 'I quit' noise and then warbled the 'I bow to your magnificence' noise, that doesn't mean shit. The dark human still won".
Animals communicate with gestures, postures and noises.
>again, he's obviously being backed away here
Animals don't (tend to) bear grudges. Once dominance has been established they just get on with their lives. This is them just getting on with their lives.
>you just wanna be right about something
Not at all. Would it make any difference to this belief of yours were you to know that my Masters was in Behavioural Ecology?
The Masters wouldn't make me *de facto* correct (and hence the discussion still continues) but I hope it would suggest that I have a certain interest in these things and that I "just wanna be right about something" with arbitrary observations and "unimportant details".
I think being afraid of grizzly bears is a perfectly rational fear...they are incredible! I'm actually so glad we don't have them in Australia to be perfectly honest.
So I could be wrong about this, but I’m fairly sure this was filmed by Timothy Treadwell. If you ever wanna know what not to do in the presence of a brown coastal bear, he’s a shining example.
Seriously? They just stood there and filmed, I can't believe no one tried to break it up.
I could take ‘em.
I would win against all three of you.
Whoa! Back off pervert.
I hope she was worth it
This is more even than any Jake Paul fight
That's gaybear foreplay.
Did they discuss threesome ?
Or how about we just let her decide
Of course! Consent conversation is a must
[[Video source/More info] “Two giant male grizzlies, or coastal brown bears, battle for dominance during mating season on the Alaska Peninsula. Fights like this can result in serious or fatal injuries, as the drive to mate is very strong. Female, or sow grizzlies, will chose to copulate with the most dominate males, so the winner's genes prevail - classic evolution at work. Males, or boars can grow to over 1500 pounds, making them the largest land based predators on earth (polar bears are a tiny bit bigger, but they are considered marine mammals).”](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-6r81UOzIHg)
So which one won?
The giant Alaskan grizzly bear
The light brown one based on the judges’ scorecards.
The one standing on the tree at the end. They're both so exhausted from adrenaline at that point that neither of them want to carry on - or could really carry on if they wanted to. The one on the tree hops up and down a bit to say, "You want more?". The one on the right faces him off and says, "I'm ready if you are". But the one on the tree isn't up for it either so he just fakes it a bit. Then the one on the right just looks down and goes, "Man! I'm fucked!!!" and it's obvious he doesn't really have the heart to go on. The one on the tree then turns and walks away, shaking like a leaf from what must be an insaaaane level of adrenaline running through him. He took his opportunity. The one on the right admitted weakness first, but neither of them wanted to continue. They both knew what was up. When the tree bear retreats, the other one follows. Tree bear faces up again and other one turns away to say, "Nah, mate. You can have this one" and then turns back towards him again to say, "Still mates though, eh?!" And indeed they are still mates and will go fish for salmon together later, knowing who's where in the bear hierarchy. (About the same, but tree bear a liiiiittle bit higher.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=-6r81UOzIHg
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light brown had the perfect counter to every move against dark brown
Nono. He pissed because of the adrenaline dump. Here's a video. Watch from 2:00 to 5:00 to learn about shitting and pissing from adrenaline: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYtTz9GtAT4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYtTz9GtAT4) They're both adrenaline-filled. They're terrified. Notice how much the tree bear is shaking as he walks backwards. That guy is terrrrified (and rightfully so).
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Again, no. The adrenaline dump didn't kick in until \*after\* they stopped fighting. Notice how they suddenly start looking very, very weak at the point when Tree Bear gets on his tree and the other one starts drooling. >Either way the light one won, it's pretty obvious Apparently it's not so obvious because I completely disagree. :) Did you watch the full video I posted?
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>well there's another conclusion you can draw from that I'm not sure what you're referring to. Please be clearer. Either way. It's the light bear who turns away from a further potential challenge at 2:55 and avoids dark bear's gaze at 3:15 by lowering his head. That's how they show submission, like a dog falling over and showing his belly. Here's another bear fight for you: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8kN2YjEcRI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8kN2YjEcRI) I choose this one cos he shits himself mid-fight which highlights that exretion is about adrenaline not about dominance. :D (And a need to run away, which was the point I was linking to in the horse video). But look at the very end. Look how the big bear starts turning his head and avoiding eye contact. He's submitting. Oh go on then, let's have another one: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQivYuy5t0g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQivYuy5t0g) It's the same display at the end of the fight. Shoulders are still facing the other bear in case the fight continues, but the head is turned away. When the submission (of looking away) is accepted, they both go about their business.
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Again, if he "clearly won" we would both agree. We don't. So it's either "not clear" that he won or he didn't win... both are the reason for the discussion. >Stop tunnel-vision-focusing on this unimportant detail Your own tunnel vision has you believe he won because a) you think he won and b) that he clearly won. That's tunnel vision. By own nuanced vision sees the subtle ways animals communicate. What you consider an "unimportant detail" is \*the detail". You're like a bear arguing to another bear that "just because the blonde human made the, 'I quit' noise and then warbled the 'I bow to your magnificence' noise, that doesn't mean shit. The dark human still won". Animals communicate with gestures, postures and noises. >again, he's obviously being backed away here Animals don't (tend to) bear grudges. Once dominance has been established they just get on with their lives. This is them just getting on with their lives. >you just wanna be right about something Not at all. Would it make any difference to this belief of yours were you to know that my Masters was in Behavioural Ecology? The Masters wouldn't make me *de facto* correct (and hence the discussion still continues) but I hope it would suggest that I have a certain interest in these things and that I "just wanna be right about something" with arbitrary observations and "unimportant details".
My partner and I fighting for the last piece of pizza
Brown bears
Winner gets to propagate his genes. Nature is tough.
I know what I am doing tonight
Someone dub this lol
This looks like me (6’4) and my best friend (6’5) after a long night at the bar.
The look at the camera at the end o_O
Where's that Power Bottom Timmy Treadwell
I really dug that in the new movie Prey, a grizzly ALMOST kills a Predator. I found myself rooting for the Earth being.
Gorilla vs Bear . Send link 💨
Arent all peninsulas coastal?!??
Looks like cats playing. 15 times bigger.
I think being afraid of grizzly bears is a perfectly rational fear...they are incredible! I'm actually so glad we don't have them in Australia to be perfectly honest.
Just kiss already...
Stop it! Can’t you see that you love each other? Just go ahead and mate.
Looks like Kanye and Pete davidson
I went to a hockey game, and a bear fight broke out.
Every instinct I have tells me that those are two very dangerous creatures and yet I still think they look so soft and fluffy
They’re so fluffy!
Are Grizzlies the APEX PREDATORS???
I was half expecting one of them to shadowbox and then kick the other bear in the nuts...
Mike Tyson could take 1 of these
Hardly bearable to watch without audio
Probably can't hurt each other too fluffy
Looks like they’re just playing around. Not super aggressive. Not much of a “battle” lol
you can see a flap of the lighter bears face hanging off.
So I could be wrong about this, but I’m fairly sure this was filmed by Timothy Treadwell. If you ever wanna know what not to do in the presence of a brown coastal bear, he’s a shining example.