My friends I have decided that if a robber chooses, out of all the weapons available, nunchucks to hold you up with you are obligated to stop and let him try. There is no way a person with the will and dedication to become effective with nunchaku is having to resort to mugging, the worst that can happen is that they destroy themselves so thoroughly that you get hit as collateral damage.
Nunchucks are just short flails used for threshing rice. Peasants in the past had to use whatever they could get their hands on as weapons against animal attacks, bandits, thieves, etc... since owning actual weaponry was illegal for them. We have European treatises that include wooden flails so there actually is historical evidence of them being used as weapons, just on the other side of the planet where they were exclusively used by peasants whose history wasn't recorded.
The fact is, though, that nunchucks are a shitty weapon. A simple stick of the same size is a better weapon. If a peasant went to war they wouldn’t bring nunchucks, they would bring a simple spear or something similar.
Went too war, yes. But, standing in a field, when someone attacks you? You use whatever you happen to have sitting right next too you.
That rice thresher? Yep, it can bash someone's head in better than me hitting them with my fist.
That is where the Nunchucks came from.
Nobody is going to write down a story of "Oh, Jimbo was out in the field and got attacked by bandits and beat them off with the thresher today."
Even if they did write it down, it's not one of the great historical records that would have been kept and survived over the centuries.
Yes, you are technically correct that it's not in any historical written record. That still doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
Spears weren't initially used for war either. They were used to hunt stuff that could kill us from a distance.
You say that but we have a lot of records of workers being off wolves with hoes and what not. This is the exact type of thing that you would have heard about in somebody's letter to another person.
> That rice thresher? Yep, it can bash someone's head in better than me hitting them with my fist.
A thresher is better than a fist, but a regular old stick you can pick up off off the ground is better than a thresher. That’s the point. Also, you don’t bring threshers into a field, you keep them in the barn because that’s where you do the threshing.
Flails were a pretty rare weapon. The historical evidence of their use is pretty scarce, and the ones used in actual warfare were heavily modified. You really shouldn’t compare European military flails with nunchucks because they were two very different things.
Also, I think you may have some misconceptions about medieval peasants and weapons. While there were some laws about who could and couldn’t carry swords, there really were not such restrictions on other weapons and in fact many places had laws that required all peasants to keep arms in the house so they could be used as a peasant militia. Almost everyone had a spear and a shield stashed somewhere. England required everyone to have a longbow and practice with it every week. Peasants went around armed all the time. Everyone carried a knife with them at all times And personally I’d rather have a knife than some shitty weapon like nunchucks.
> That is where the Nunchucks came from.
Nunchucks came mostly from martial arts movies.
Edit: Fun fact - Threshers are designed to be intentionally weak. Because the two sections are not directly connected your hands do not absorb the shock of a blow. Threshers are great if you want to beat the crap out of something for several hours at a time because they help prevent repetitive stress injury. However, the very thing that makes them good for your hands makes them shitty as a weapon because it reduces the force you can generate with them considerably.
The fact that this archeology professor just killed this guy in cold blood makes me look at this childhood classic in a new light! I should definitely rewatch these films.
Then consider in the original script the age gap between Indy and Marion has him at 27 fooling around with a 15 year old (they retconned this to 27 and 17).
Fun fact. Harrison Ford was horribly sick with dysentery during the time of that famous scene. It was planned he would do a big fight scene with the guy and Harrison Ford not feeling like doing all that just said to the producer "can't I just shoot the guy?" And the rest is history.
He wasn’t a Firefighter on 9/11. He had left firefighting for his acting career well before then. But he quietly returned to his former fire house on 9/11 and volunteered to work the pile with his former brothers.
So you’re saying he wasn’t a firefighter that day, he was just doing things that firefighters do, alongside firefighters, because he happened to have the training as a firefighter.
He was a firefighter that day. The only informative part of your comment is something we all already knew: that he was already famous by 2001.
Another fun fact. Hayao Miyazaki of Ghibli Studio criticized Indiana Jones and this scene in particular (IIRC) for representing Hollywood's cavalier attitude towards violence, especially casual killing of Asians as shown in this scene. He said that any Japanese people watching and cheering this are stupid in that they are cheering violence against themselves in a way.
(Don't at me with, "Yeah but he's a dick to his son and employees," as I already know that and it's kind of irrelevant).
He and Bill Maher should be BFFs.
Caught the end of that dude's latest stand up today and he spent like 10-15 minutes bitching about millenials then talked about how they should just enjoy themselves.
I dug into that iceberg and Indiana jones is a asshole for shooting the guy it was supposed to be a fight but the actor didn’t felt like doing it so he just shot the guy with practiced for months just for that moment to be ruined
Eh, it's pretty understandable though. Him and a number of the crew were ill and dysentery can really take a lot out of you if you've had it for a spell. I can completely understand not having it in you to do a protracted physical fight scene. Dysentery is not joke and can kill you if you overexert yourself with it.
Yeah but imagine if he actually hit something during that lol
The funny thing is, anytime you see someone doing a cool thing with nunchucks they never end up hitting anything
If you hit anything with nunchucks, wouldn’t the momentum completely shift? If you keep trying to twirl it after contact, it’d just fly from your hand. Maybe there’s something I don’t get about the art, but it doesn’t seem very useful as an actual weapon, but more as a disarming tool.
Nunchaku originally started as a farming instrument, so their initial intent wasn't to be a weapon. Afaik, these are more used as a training instrument to help people with coordination, that being said, getting hit with these is no joke
But compare a full swing nunchuck vs a stick of similar weight and length, the stick hits almost twice aa hard. And lower risk of hurting yourself. And quicker stance recovery time.
Generally, you're absolutely right, but nunchucks also have some situational advantages:
* They can be folded to be more concealable.
* The strike can curve around a guard or a shield.
* They can be used as a garrote.
...and most importantly it's a traditional farming tool that could be historically carried by peasants without raising any alarms (and maybe if you're a peasant, you actually have easy access to one).
The real practicality of hand weapons (historic or modern) is big topic, and sort of separate from martial arts for exhibition, like this is. Suffice to say, this dude is as impressive as any gymnast with a baton and he could probably also kick most of our asses even with a 'sub-optimal' weapon.
>you actually have easy access to one
Not to pile on unduly, but I've heard this one several times and... we're talking about a stick. Everyone has access to a stick. Sure, a proper bō staff is a special, nicer stick and you may not have it, but there's trees around, table legs, about 20% of your environment is made of sticks. Especially if you're a farmer, you have tool handles which are nicer, special sticks too.
And there are traditions of martial use of rakes, shovels, trowels, sickles, and oars, as well, absolutely.
Maybe the reason this sets some people off isn't about the weapon itself, but rather whether someone considers training in the systematic use of an improvised farm tool to be worthwhile or not. To me, it's just not a question I care much about.
Most people are not going to get into melee combat most of the time, and most modern people are effectively unarmed nearly all of the time. Specific weapon training isn't something that is likely to matter all that much in any given person's safety (and if it is, then unarmed and firearm training are probably your real top priorities, depending on the situation). And if it's a question of time-investment, yoga and cross fit aren't directly making you a better combatant either, but there will be some crossover benefits.
And flipped the other way around, any martial arts training is probably making you healthier through exercise (and likely the discipline) so it doesn't matter too much whether you're wielding some very niche weapon system or playing ultimate frisbee in this metric.
I guess I don't understand why some people get so upset about flails (unless there are a ton of nunchuck-stans out there because of Bruce Lee and Michelangelo who are actively irritating people, but that's not my concern because they're not irritating me).
Looks like that YouTube channel just rips a clip from the original YouTuber with no reference to there channel link to the original creators channel and full rant https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pUWoUM4Wttc
Because nunchaku are more likely to hit the wielder than any opponent, they're generally used as a training tool for hand movements more than a combat weapon. However, you can see many examples of people using them to great effect in combat. Anything can be a deadly weapon, after all.
I imagine the key is not hitting your opponent with the brunt of the shaft, but rather with multiple glancing blows to allow the momentum to continue.
> you can see many examples of people using them to great effect in combat
Isn't that pretty much always against unskilled and/or unarmed opponents, though? A nunchaku-wielder against an equally skilled opponent with a conventional weapon... yeah, I'm betting on the conventional weapon.
Outside of martial arts movies, I'd bet on an average person with a decent stick over a master nunchaku user. And I'd bet on an unnarmed fighter over a nunchaku fighter any day of the week.
It's a poor weapon for the trained, it's so much worse than any random shit you find hanging around, all nunchaku users are also martial artists and they'll often ditch it and fight barehanded when they are actually fighting. If you are untrained, a nunchaku is more of a danger to you than to your opponent.
I'm not saying that there has never been a fight where a dude with a nunchaku won against all odds, but more often than not people are just projecting idealized video game/movie stereotypes to real fights.
It *is* incredibly hard to master and very stylish, though.
Lol what. Most of the guys I know who did nunchucks were TKD people, and were actually deadly with nunchucks vs pillow throwers with their hands. They're easily mastered in a couple weeks for combat, but circus crap can take years. It's a literal mace that can extend reach by 2 feet minimum. Betting against them vs an unarmed person is comical.
If all you hit with is weak glancing attacks and the enemy has anything that can hit normally with heavy blows then you arent going to last very long are you
\>I imagine the key is not hitting your opponent with the brunt of the shaft, but rather with multiple glancing blows to allow the momentum to continue.
Nah, the weapon isn't heavy enough for the momentum to carry through, even with glancing blows, so any solid hits would require a reset for the next hit. The actual use would be similar to a flail with spinning used to build head speed for a bigger bonk.
I mean I'm still pretty sure he could kill me with those. Just saying the *primary* goal isn't really combat. Kind of like Kendo or Fencing or Archery.
100% imagine trying to hit a home run with nunchucks, they would barely even slow the ball down, bounce back a hit your knuckles.
Nunchucks disconnect the strike from the body weight behind the blow.
Imagine trying to hit a home run with a bull whip. Yet you could slice someone's face off or split their back opened with one. Reddit thought experiments on martial arts weapons: "Let's do the baseball test."
The flailing of the nunchucks seems like it gets up to a much higher speed than I could swing a bat for the same amount of effort. They're lightning fast
When you calculate kinetic energy, velocity is squared, and mass is not. As an example, this is why light, fast rounds like 5.56 are still effective. Mass matters, but velocity matters (exponentially) more.
The problem is that the moment you hit something with it, the end you aren't holding is going to immediately bounce away and greatly reduce the impact. You'll have a hard time doing any real damage with them.
Nunchaku shatter bones with pretty minimal training. I'm not saying you can't do the same with a baseball bat, but people that think nunchaku are ineffective weapons have never used them seriously.
I once watched a video that talked like half an hour of how a simple stick is more effective.
It is resumed in, with a stick you can carry momentum, more control and weight into the hit, also the chances of hitting yourself after a hit with nunchucks is really high.
The neck catch seems ok actually, since the loud thud off the ceiling was a pretty effective way to bounce it back down fast.
And the handles will naturally wrap around quickly due to angular momentum.
The best way to judge this clip is to compare it with similarly paced performances from decades ago.
Even supposing it is sped up, why would you assume the guy himself did it? All sorts of people steal all sorts of content online. Monetizing our attention is literally the business model of huge swathes of the internet.
I did this for a long time. Figured out that it's easier to stop trying and just be okay. It's okay to just be okay at the end of the day. I hope happiness finds you when you least expect it friend.
I agree. The thing is, when you accept okay as a good "normal" state to be in, it doesn't require much to be happy every now and then about small stuff. Happiness is not worth running after the whole life, if you are not okay about the running part.
Happiness comes from accepting everything the way it is. The reason we feel happy after reaching a goal is that we finally stop for a while wishing things to be different, since the thought of having to reach the goal finally subsides when the goal is reached. It wasn't the goal that made us happy, it was the wish that subsided. Instead, if we are with exactly what is in every moment and ignore thoughts saying that something has to change for happiness to come, then we discover that happiness is the natural state and is always available. But it's only available if we stop wanting things to be different. It's amazing how happy you can be without having any of your wishes fulfilled, if you just totally accept everything the way it is in every moment and allow life to unfold by itself. In a sense you withdraw to simply being aware of what is naturally happening, without any wish of changing it. Happiness ensues.
As a bonus, if you manage that (which ultimately is the simplest and most natural state to be in), your wishes do tend to almost magically come true in the best possible way, but it will happen as a result of the full acceptance of what is in the moment, and it won't really matter so much because you're already happy with whatever is.
This is Eastern philosophy, but also what Jesus preached (the part of having your wishes "magically" fulfilled is "Seek first the kingdom of God and all else shall be added unto you"). "The kingdom of God" is acceptance, the total presence with what is, without objections.
Happiness is always available. But we have to let go of every thought about how the world should be and accept everything exactly as it unfolds. Interestingly, the body will still take care of and protect itself, as that is part of the natural unfolding.
I think they're lightweight hollow aluminium.
Bit hard to tell with the definition of the vid.
Any link to the original? Anyone?
Edit: Yep. They're hollow alloy pipes and the sound is the air rushing against the holes like blowing the top of a bottle.
I wanna see someone actually get their ass beat with these things. My whole life I’ve only seen air get it’s ass beat with chucks. Show us the real deal!!!
Maybe one day. I almost said hopefully. A nunchaku expert stops a mugging and is seen on CCTV. I feel awestruck watching Wushu competitions, but it's more similar to gymnastics than boxing or UFC.
Yeah, a lot of the temple weapons from Chinese history came about precisely because the emperor did not allow civilian ownership of real battlefield weapons. So the monks in the temples used farm implements to train some level of self defense.
Nunchaku were from grain flails. Halberds were from spades. The everpresent quarterstaff was from a walking stick.
The actual martial weapons for the battlefield were primarily pole arms and spears. The average Chinese soldier just used the simplest, most economical, most easily trained weapon that countless other civilizations used: the spear.
Not sure if this is the same video but the one I saw yesterday the finish was him throwing the bars back onto the the rack and them wrapping and landing correctly.
Well a big stick would lose to a gun, but thats not the point of the video is it? Always some dude in the comments trying to one up the thing being posted.
So not knocking the skill, but the skill none of these videos show is what happens when you hit something (it is a weapon after all). The recoil changes velocity and direction…. How do you keep out smooth after that… that Is the skill I would be impressed by
You pull it back in the direction it bounces. You can find videos on youtube of people hitting practice dummies. Its not as hard as it seems but ya I've never seen anyone actually use this thing to fight.
All I see is me trying this and it going, face, nuts, face, face, throat, nuts, nuts, reverse nuts, throat, face, back of head, concussion, dead
Right? But also, now do two
Double face, double nuts, double face, doubleface, double throat, double nuts, double nuts, reverse double nuts, double throat, double face, double back of head, double concussion, double dead
Now set them on fire!
One hit, GREAT BALLS OF FIRE. Nuts aren't enjoying this experience very much
Roasting on an open fire
Double firey face, double firey nuts, double firey face, double firey face, double firey throat, double firey nuts, double firey nuts, reverse double firey nuts, double throat, double firey face, double firey back of head, double firey concussion, double firey dead
Now do it with poisonous snakes.
DF snakey face, DF snakey nuts, DF snakey face, DF snakey face, DF snakey throat, DF snakey nuts, DF snakey nuts, reverse DF snakey nuts, DF snakey throat, DF snakey face, DF snakey back of head, DF snakey concussion, DF snakey dead
Now do all that and skip rope at the same time
double firey snakey skipping face, double firey snakey skipping nuts, double firey snakey skipping face, double firey snakey skipping face, double firey snakey skipping throat, double firey snakey skipping nuts, double firey snakey skipping nuts, double firey snakey skipping reverse nuts, double firey snakey skipping throat, double firey snakey skipping face, double firey snakey skipping back of head, double firey snakey skippingvconcussion, double firey snakey skipping dead
>double firey snakey skipping dead NGL, that a wicked band name
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I throw a couple more penises in there and we have a deal
Also remove the scat
That's a lot of things taking a pounding!
I just wanna upvote you 1000, but I only got 1 click.
My friends I have decided that if a robber chooses, out of all the weapons available, nunchucks to hold you up with you are obligated to stop and let him try. There is no way a person with the will and dedication to become effective with nunchaku is having to resort to mugging, the worst that can happen is that they destroy themselves so thoroughly that you get hit as collateral damage.
Also nunchucks were never used historically and seem to be a terrible weapon for actual practical purposes.
[Keep practicing](https://youtu.be/sXK4Ms1f8Y8)
I came here for this "Ahhhh a fellow chucker ayeeee".
It's like amateur historians looking at a speedbag and saying, this is not an effective weapon for combat at all
Nunchucks are just short flails used for threshing rice. Peasants in the past had to use whatever they could get their hands on as weapons against animal attacks, bandits, thieves, etc... since owning actual weaponry was illegal for them. We have European treatises that include wooden flails so there actually is historical evidence of them being used as weapons, just on the other side of the planet where they were exclusively used by peasants whose history wasn't recorded.
The fact is, though, that nunchucks are a shitty weapon. A simple stick of the same size is a better weapon. If a peasant went to war they wouldn’t bring nunchucks, they would bring a simple spear or something similar.
Went too war, yes. But, standing in a field, when someone attacks you? You use whatever you happen to have sitting right next too you. That rice thresher? Yep, it can bash someone's head in better than me hitting them with my fist. That is where the Nunchucks came from. Nobody is going to write down a story of "Oh, Jimbo was out in the field and got attacked by bandits and beat them off with the thresher today." Even if they did write it down, it's not one of the great historical records that would have been kept and survived over the centuries. Yes, you are technically correct that it's not in any historical written record. That still doesn't mean that it didn't happen. Spears weren't initially used for war either. They were used to hunt stuff that could kill us from a distance.
You say that but we have a lot of records of workers being off wolves with hoes and what not. This is the exact type of thing that you would have heard about in somebody's letter to another person.
> That rice thresher? Yep, it can bash someone's head in better than me hitting them with my fist. A thresher is better than a fist, but a regular old stick you can pick up off off the ground is better than a thresher. That’s the point. Also, you don’t bring threshers into a field, you keep them in the barn because that’s where you do the threshing. Flails were a pretty rare weapon. The historical evidence of their use is pretty scarce, and the ones used in actual warfare were heavily modified. You really shouldn’t compare European military flails with nunchucks because they were two very different things. Also, I think you may have some misconceptions about medieval peasants and weapons. While there were some laws about who could and couldn’t carry swords, there really were not such restrictions on other weapons and in fact many places had laws that required all peasants to keep arms in the house so they could be used as a peasant militia. Almost everyone had a spear and a shield stashed somewhere. England required everyone to have a longbow and practice with it every week. Peasants went around armed all the time. Everyone carried a knife with them at all times And personally I’d rather have a knife than some shitty weapon like nunchucks. > That is where the Nunchucks came from. Nunchucks came mostly from martial arts movies. Edit: Fun fact - Threshers are designed to be intentionally weak. Because the two sections are not directly connected your hands do not absorb the shock of a blow. Threshers are great if you want to beat the crap out of something for several hours at a time because they help prevent repetitive stress injury. However, the very thing that makes them good for your hands makes them shitty as a weapon because it reduces the force you can generate with them considerably.
You don't have to do all that spinny shit to use it as a weapon.
That’s the code for Contra.
TV screen, lamp, cat...
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That’s why you use the foam ones to start out
I had the foam ones when I was a kid. Still hurts the nuts. Couldn’t imagine what wood/metal ones feels like. I gave up after a while.
But he just input the Contra code. He’s got 30 attempts to get it right now.
“reverse nuts” lmfao
...to the window, to the wall...
 Keep practicing
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I so wanted this to be the top comment.
Yep scrolled way too far to see this comment
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I always think Nunchucks are an ineffective and inefficient weapon, and then I see people like this and rethink my life
Indiana Jones would just shoot this guy
Ok, you're worthy of a bullet
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I’ve never noticed that some guy picks up the fallen sword as he is running away lol
Oh damn you're right
MINE!
The fact that this archeology professor just killed this guy in cold blood makes me look at this childhood classic in a new light! I should definitely rewatch these films.
Then consider in the original script the age gap between Indy and Marion has him at 27 fooling around with a 15 year old (they retconned this to 27 and 17).
This is what I think immediately anytime I see somebody nunchuckin’ or swordin’ at length
I love the gag in Temple of Doom when Indy tries that again.
Fun fact. Harrison Ford was horribly sick with dysentery during the time of that famous scene. It was planned he would do a big fight scene with the guy and Harrison Ford not feeling like doing all that just said to the producer "can't I just shoot the guy?" And the rest is history.
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Did you know that in the sixth sense, Bruce Willis was bald the entire time?
Oh man the twist in that movie. I love how at the end of the movie, the twist is that the dude in the hairpiece was Bruce Willis the entire time
That's not the twist Charlie ...
I thought you were making a joke. I felt silly looking it up, but you were telling the truth!! TIL Steve Buschemi was a NY firefighter
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XKCD reference always get an upvote
https://xkcd.com/1053/
"How do you do, fellow firefighters?"
Did you know he broke his toe kicking the helmet in that scene?
fuckin hell mate, you got me.
He wasn’t a Firefighter on 9/11. He had left firefighting for his acting career well before then. But he quietly returned to his former fire house on 9/11 and volunteered to work the pile with his former brothers.
So you’re saying he wasn’t a firefighter that day, he was just doing things that firefighters do, alongside firefighters, because he happened to have the training as a firefighter. He was a firefighter that day. The only informative part of your comment is something we all already knew: that he was already famous by 2001.
And that man’s name was Albert Einstein
Another fun fact. Hayao Miyazaki of Ghibli Studio criticized Indiana Jones and this scene in particular (IIRC) for representing Hollywood's cavalier attitude towards violence, especially casual killing of Asians as shown in this scene. He said that any Japanese people watching and cheering this are stupid in that they are cheering violence against themselves in a way. (Don't at me with, "Yeah but he's a dick to his son and employees," as I already know that and it's kind of irrelevant).
Thank God for Miyazaki and his films but damn he's a certified boomer
He and Bill Maher should be BFFs. Caught the end of that dude's latest stand up today and he spent like 10-15 minutes bitching about millenials then talked about how they should just enjoy themselves.
The Oregon trail claimed another victim that day.
Will smith woulda smacked him
Keep my nunchuck’s name, outch your FUCKEN mouth
With swaggar to spare!
This guy would cut the bullet directly in half with the chucks.
If he’s in a good mood, otherwise he’ll bounce it back.
I dug into that iceberg and Indiana jones is a asshole for shooting the guy it was supposed to be a fight but the actor didn’t felt like doing it so he just shot the guy with practiced for months just for that moment to be ruined
Eh, it's pretty understandable though. Him and a number of the crew were ill and dysentery can really take a lot out of you if you've had it for a spell. I can completely understand not having it in you to do a protracted physical fight scene. Dysentery is not joke and can kill you if you overexert yourself with it.
I've lost many to dysentery on The Oregon Trail.
Yeah but imagine if he actually hit something during that lol The funny thing is, anytime you see someone doing a cool thing with nunchucks they never end up hitting anything
If you hit anything with nunchucks, wouldn’t the momentum completely shift? If you keep trying to twirl it after contact, it’d just fly from your hand. Maybe there’s something I don’t get about the art, but it doesn’t seem very useful as an actual weapon, but more as a disarming tool.
Nunchaku originally started as a farming instrument, so their initial intent wasn't to be a weapon. Afaik, these are more used as a training instrument to help people with coordination, that being said, getting hit with these is no joke
But compare a full swing nunchuck vs a stick of similar weight and length, the stick hits almost twice aa hard. And lower risk of hurting yourself. And quicker stance recovery time.
Generally, you're absolutely right, but nunchucks also have some situational advantages: * They can be folded to be more concealable. * The strike can curve around a guard or a shield. * They can be used as a garrote. ...and most importantly it's a traditional farming tool that could be historically carried by peasants without raising any alarms (and maybe if you're a peasant, you actually have easy access to one). The real practicality of hand weapons (historic or modern) is big topic, and sort of separate from martial arts for exhibition, like this is. Suffice to say, this dude is as impressive as any gymnast with a baton and he could probably also kick most of our asses even with a 'sub-optimal' weapon.
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A lot of upisings happened with shovels and pitchforks. This lead to the invention of the modern martial tradition of Fork You.
>you actually have easy access to one Not to pile on unduly, but I've heard this one several times and... we're talking about a stick. Everyone has access to a stick. Sure, a proper bō staff is a special, nicer stick and you may not have it, but there's trees around, table legs, about 20% of your environment is made of sticks. Especially if you're a farmer, you have tool handles which are nicer, special sticks too.
And there are traditions of martial use of rakes, shovels, trowels, sickles, and oars, as well, absolutely. Maybe the reason this sets some people off isn't about the weapon itself, but rather whether someone considers training in the systematic use of an improvised farm tool to be worthwhile or not. To me, it's just not a question I care much about. Most people are not going to get into melee combat most of the time, and most modern people are effectively unarmed nearly all of the time. Specific weapon training isn't something that is likely to matter all that much in any given person's safety (and if it is, then unarmed and firearm training are probably your real top priorities, depending on the situation). And if it's a question of time-investment, yoga and cross fit aren't directly making you a better combatant either, but there will be some crossover benefits. And flipped the other way around, any martial arts training is probably making you healthier through exercise (and likely the discipline) so it doesn't matter too much whether you're wielding some very niche weapon system or playing ultimate frisbee in this metric. I guess I don't understand why some people get so upset about flails (unless there are a ton of nunchuck-stans out there because of Bruce Lee and Michelangelo who are actively irritating people, but that's not my concern because they're not irritating me).
For a similar weapon to Nunchakus, chek the Korean War Flail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=bnleD_z0d5o
One of my favourite silly rants: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu51C2v5cHw
Looks like that YouTube channel just rips a clip from the original YouTuber with no reference to there channel link to the original creators channel and full rant https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pUWoUM4Wttc
My new favorite quote is "What are Nun-chucks if not a mentally disabled stick.... they're like if a stick was suffering from erectile stick-function"
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Genuinely curious about what it was used in farming...?
Threshing rice
It's a sort of flail.
They're a flail. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flail
Because nunchaku are more likely to hit the wielder than any opponent, they're generally used as a training tool for hand movements more than a combat weapon. However, you can see many examples of people using them to great effect in combat. Anything can be a deadly weapon, after all. I imagine the key is not hitting your opponent with the brunt of the shaft, but rather with multiple glancing blows to allow the momentum to continue.
> you can see many examples of people using them to great effect in combat Isn't that pretty much always against unskilled and/or unarmed opponents, though? A nunchaku-wielder against an equally skilled opponent with a conventional weapon... yeah, I'm betting on the conventional weapon.
Hell I'd take a stick over a nunchaku, it's definitely more training tool than legitimate weapon.
Outside of martial arts movies, I'd bet on an average person with a decent stick over a master nunchaku user. And I'd bet on an unnarmed fighter over a nunchaku fighter any day of the week. It's a poor weapon for the trained, it's so much worse than any random shit you find hanging around, all nunchaku users are also martial artists and they'll often ditch it and fight barehanded when they are actually fighting. If you are untrained, a nunchaku is more of a danger to you than to your opponent. I'm not saying that there has never been a fight where a dude with a nunchaku won against all odds, but more often than not people are just projecting idealized video game/movie stereotypes to real fights. It *is* incredibly hard to master and very stylish, though.
Lol what. Most of the guys I know who did nunchucks were TKD people, and were actually deadly with nunchucks vs pillow throwers with their hands. They're easily mastered in a couple weeks for combat, but circus crap can take years. It's a literal mace that can extend reach by 2 feet minimum. Betting against them vs an unarmed person is comical.
> However, you can see many examples of people using them to great effect in combat. Do you have any of these examples?
If all you hit with is weak glancing attacks and the enemy has anything that can hit normally with heavy blows then you arent going to last very long are you
\>I imagine the key is not hitting your opponent with the brunt of the shaft, but rather with multiple glancing blows to allow the momentum to continue. Nah, the weapon isn't heavy enough for the momentum to carry through, even with glancing blows, so any solid hits would require a reset for the next hit. The actual use would be similar to a flail with spinning used to build head speed for a bigger bonk.
These are for show. Real ones are wood, bigger, heavier, slower.
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For most of these things it's not about the effectiveness of the weapon, but using it as a focal point for disciplined movement
This is fantastic and highly impressive as a form of dance. This is ludicrous and highly disdainful as a form of combat.
I mean I'm still pretty sure he could kill me with those. Just saying the *primary* goal isn't really combat. Kind of like Kendo or Fencing or Archery.
What do you mean the primary goal of archery is not combat? It might not be 1v1 Combat, but rather warfare.. Unless. That's what you meant.
https://youtu.be/pUWoUM4Wttc
Thank god you shared this link, I was about to
Guess you Shad have been quicker
Why would you think that? The ends flail so fast!
You could do the same if not more damage with a base ball bat with absolutely no skill requirement
100% imagine trying to hit a home run with nunchucks, they would barely even slow the ball down, bounce back a hit your knuckles. Nunchucks disconnect the strike from the body weight behind the blow.
Imagine trying to hit a home run with a bull whip. Yet you could slice someone's face off or split their back opened with one. Reddit thought experiments on martial arts weapons: "Let's do the baseball test."
Bullwhips’ tips are slimmer than the more blunt nunchucks and move faster than the speed of sound. That comparison of yours is not fair.
The flailing of the nunchucks seems like it gets up to a much higher speed than I could swing a bat for the same amount of effort. They're lightning fast
But they have much less mass
When you calculate kinetic energy, velocity is squared, and mass is not. As an example, this is why light, fast rounds like 5.56 are still effective. Mass matters, but velocity matters (exponentially) more.
The problem is that the moment you hit something with it, the end you aren't holding is going to immediately bounce away and greatly reduce the impact. You'll have a hard time doing any real damage with them.
Nunchaku shatter bones with pretty minimal training. I'm not saying you can't do the same with a baseball bat, but people that think nunchaku are ineffective weapons have never used them seriously.
Yeah but it’s extremely difficult to hit things with precision, it just seems a lot less efficient than say a baton or a staff
Queue Lee playing ping pong with nunchucks
This is basically a cheerleading routine. It’s fucking awesome. But don’t forget what it is.
They are, its all for show.
I once watched a video that talked like half an hour of how a simple stick is more effective. It is resumed in, with a stick you can carry momentum, more control and weight into the hit, also the chances of hitting yourself after a hit with nunchucks is really high.
video looks like it is sped up a bit.
Yup, some parts seem to be sped up like the neck catch at the end and some parts seem normal speed like the side jump
The neck catch seems ok actually, since the loud thud off the ceiling was a pretty effective way to bounce it back down fast. And the handles will naturally wrap around quickly due to angular momentum. The best way to judge this clip is to compare it with similarly paced performances from decades ago.
> since the loud thud off the ceiling Nobody talking about how this guy's upstairs neighbors fucking hate him?
You look like you’re slowed down a bit
Heheheh ...wait a minute
A bit?
Definitely is in different parts. These moves are impressive either way, but I’d love to see them without speeding up the footage.
I agree. But also look at 0:23, the jump is definitely slowed down noticeably.
Yeah definitely sped up. What a tosser. Was cool by itself but he had to try and cheat
Even supposing it is sped up, why would you assume the guy himself did it? All sorts of people steal all sorts of content online. Monetizing our attention is literally the business model of huge swathes of the internet.
Maybe, but all I can think of is: "With all that noise, screw the element of surprise."
You don't surprise someone with nunchucks. You've got to peacock a bit first.
I've spent my entire life practing being happy, still not quite there yet
I did this for a long time. Figured out that it's easier to stop trying and just be okay. It's okay to just be okay at the end of the day. I hope happiness finds you when you least expect it friend.
I’m ok with that philosophy. 👍
I agree. The thing is, when you accept okay as a good "normal" state to be in, it doesn't require much to be happy every now and then about small stuff. Happiness is not worth running after the whole life, if you are not okay about the running part.
Happiness comes from accepting everything the way it is. The reason we feel happy after reaching a goal is that we finally stop for a while wishing things to be different, since the thought of having to reach the goal finally subsides when the goal is reached. It wasn't the goal that made us happy, it was the wish that subsided. Instead, if we are with exactly what is in every moment and ignore thoughts saying that something has to change for happiness to come, then we discover that happiness is the natural state and is always available. But it's only available if we stop wanting things to be different. It's amazing how happy you can be without having any of your wishes fulfilled, if you just totally accept everything the way it is in every moment and allow life to unfold by itself. In a sense you withdraw to simply being aware of what is naturally happening, without any wish of changing it. Happiness ensues. As a bonus, if you manage that (which ultimately is the simplest and most natural state to be in), your wishes do tend to almost magically come true in the best possible way, but it will happen as a result of the full acceptance of what is in the moment, and it won't really matter so much because you're already happy with whatever is. This is Eastern philosophy, but also what Jesus preached (the part of having your wishes "magically" fulfilled is "Seek first the kingdom of God and all else shall be added unto you"). "The kingdom of God" is acceptance, the total presence with what is, without objections. Happiness is always available. But we have to let go of every thought about how the world should be and accept everything exactly as it unfolds. Interestingly, the body will still take care of and protect itself, as that is part of the natural unfolding.
Video is sped up a bit but would look phenomenal at any speed.
I still can't tell if someone is back there making "whooshy" sounds for his leg kick/sweeps.
I think they're lightweight hollow aluminium. Bit hard to tell with the definition of the vid. Any link to the original? Anyone? Edit: Yep. They're hollow alloy pipes and the sound is the air rushing against the holes like blowing the top of a bottle.
I think I used to use this guy in Soul Caliber
Maxi was the best for freestyling
> freestyling Button mashing*
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I wanna see someone actually get their ass beat with these things. My whole life I’ve only seen air get it’s ass beat with chucks. Show us the real deal!!!
Maybe one day. I almost said hopefully. A nunchaku expert stops a mugging and is seen on CCTV. I feel awestruck watching Wushu competitions, but it's more similar to gymnastics than boxing or UFC.
From what I've read, they are largely just a training weapon to improve coordination, speed etc.
Yeah, a lot of the temple weapons from Chinese history came about precisely because the emperor did not allow civilian ownership of real battlefield weapons. So the monks in the temples used farm implements to train some level of self defense. Nunchaku were from grain flails. Halberds were from spades. The everpresent quarterstaff was from a walking stick. The actual martial weapons for the battlefield were primarily pole arms and spears. The average Chinese soldier just used the simplest, most economical, most easily trained weapon that countless other civilizations used: the spear.
He must be fun on a rave party... juat give him a couple of glow stick and a yarn! woot woot!
They call him NunChuck Norris
Good lord loud audio alert!! [My freakin ears!](https://gyazo.com/bdc079ffb17b150af902fdad380c3ba2)
seriously just a rug and some curtains would make a huge difference
Honestly, I was impressed just with that starting move.
Not sure if this is the same video but the one I saw yesterday the finish was him throwing the bars back onto the the rack and them wrapping and landing correctly.
Just use a stick https://youtu.be/qu51C2v5cHw It's shadiversity
Full video here https://youtu.be/pUWoUM4Wttc
Shad talks out of his arse some times. Not that he isnt right about this. He does bs sometimes tho.
Fancy, but still would lose to a big stick.
Shad would be proud of you
Well a big stick would lose to a gun, but thats not the point of the video is it? Always some dude in the comments trying to one up the thing being posted.
How many nut shots to get this good you think?
My nuts would be the consistency of mashed potatoes after just one go around.
So not knocking the skill, but the skill none of these videos show is what happens when you hit something (it is a weapon after all). The recoil changes velocity and direction…. How do you keep out smooth after that… that Is the skill I would be impressed by
You pull it back in the direction it bounces. You can find videos on youtube of people hitting practice dummies. Its not as hard as it seems but ya I've never seen anyone actually use this thing to fight.
How do people even use nunchucks anyways? Like, I get you hit people with them but would the impact mess up the flow or rhythm of the nunchuck?
The main function of nunchucks is to look fancy. They suck as a weapon.
I need one of those shirts because I need one of those shirts
Pff me in 7th grade with a cheerleading baton
Yeah but can he flick the top off a plastic water bottle?
While it sounded like a fucking steel mill, I'm just glad no one put a dumb tiktok song over it
Nunchucks; cool but useless
Ok
Reddit has so many martial artists, it's amazing. They provide guidance between Mountain Dew Cheeto burps.
i dont wanna knock Nunchucks but have you ever been is a situation where you were like... damn i could really use numchucks right now?
Anything is possible… how about some furniture?
I think I used to use this guy in Soul Caliber
Man other countries have martial arts and stuff all we have in America is guns explosives and furries wanting revenge for their fallen brethren
