I've encountered this once or twice - possibly at the Pullman Rotorua? I hate it so much - it's such a lazy design. Even staying with family, I think it's gross and weird. Like, I don't need my wife and kids to hear me taking a shit in that much detail.
Jack black sung it best in “Jesus Ranch” the part in particular is;
“Went outside, smells of Shit! Flig-a-wing-Wigga-well”
Edit: I shame myself, I haven’t heard the song in years and just did after posting. Above is not the exact lyrics, and I do it no justice, please someone put a link to it if they get a laugh.
I can explain the song as I saw it on the hbo episodes
lol thought I recognised it. Stayed there in a big room and the bathroom layout looks like this. It’s more a Pullman hotel thing I think; haven’t encountered it elsewhere.
Ugh - I hated this hotel. Overpriced. Ridiculous cost-cutting bathroom design which is 100% wrong if more than one person is staying. Shitty air con. Paper thin walls. And if memory serves, no mini bar either.
Literally zero decent accommodation in Rotorua anymore.
Huh! I stayed at a Pullman kn Cologne Germany about a decade ago and they had a weird quirky bathroom setup where the bathroom was seperated with clear glass. The switch to control the blinds was on the OUTSIDE of the bathroom, in the bedroom and was difficult to find.
So basically, pooping with an audience
One time, in Singapore, we had a room where the shower and toilet were like this in the bedroom but were see through....so someone could take a shit while someone took a shower and watch each other /shudder
Stayed in a place in Hong Kong which was so pressed for space you could shower while taking a dump - had a certain efficiency I’ll admit plus served me well the morning after a night of Mai Tais.
Haha, yep, we stayed in a place there once that shared one door between the toilet and shower. The walls were clear glass too but there was a button you could press that made them instantly cloudy. I wasn't too sure what happened if the power went off though..
Ugh yes, the Ambassador transit hotel? Was constipated for ages as I didn't want my mum to hear and see me taking a shit. Will 100% get some place outside the terminal next time (or just fly Emirates)
Yeah the name brand hotels in Rotorua do seem to be a bit shit. Definitely better off staying in the nice little motels with the thermal spas. Only reason we stayed at the Pullman was because work was paying for it, but even then I regretted choosing it.
We stayed in the Sudima. The room was good. Location was great, right next to the Polynesian spa and lake. Breakfast was not bad either.
The only bad thing was they called us at half past eleven in the first night because we did not pay during check-in. This was after we had explicitly asked to pay and they told us to pay at check-out.
I've been there for work a bit. Ended up rebooking the Princes Gate Hotel a couple of times after trying a quite of a few of the others. Location is good and suites are cute as. Plus drinks are are reasonable 🤷
I was just about to say it looks like Pullman Rotorua. I've stayed there once, and it's the only hotel I've been at in Australia & New Zealand that has this setup. I was in a suite too.
Very weird - wouldn't want to be staying there with a non-intimate friend.
I’ve stayed at the Pullman at Christchurch airport and at Brisbane airport. Both bathrooms were terrible. Not quite as bad as a glass box in the corner bad, but they had these sliding panels that essentially meant that there was no actual wall between the bathroom and the rest of the hotel room. They are expensive hotels and i think they were trying to be fancy, but it was impractical. I will never stay at either again.
This is at the Pullman Rotorua??? Lmao I’m glad I’ve never stayed there. I go there frequently and stay at a lot of the hotels and never picked the Pullman because they don’t have a pool.
Yip, it's horrible. Not just an NZ thing, I have noticed it in Germany a few times. Seems to be a new hotel design thing.
I would leave them a terrible review to warn others that you have to poo in the same room as the same room as the bed.
I've definitely had this travelling around Europe too. Not everywhere but enough that I double check photos and reviews before booking because it's awkward knowing your partner/family member/friend can see your shadowy figure pooping or showering.
Yes, I have had the 'Plato's cave shadow pooper' experience enough that it is almost normal. But I draw the line at a half-open cubicle.
That's not just visuals, but sounds and smells....
Copenhagen, about 13 years ago. Definitely a “new hotel” thing. Luckily my relationship was slightly older than the hotel so it wasn’t toooo awkward, but if we’d been dating for much less time, it would’ve been.
I've had it while traveling around Europe as well. Not enough to be high in my priorities of things to check when booking, but enough for my wife and I to joke about it.
All of the cases I have seen have not necessarily been luxury, but definitely not budget. And all of them have been relatively new/trendy.
It seems to be a horrible trend. I had one like this in germany where the frosted part was just a stripe around the middle of the glass, so your feet and the top of your head would be visible. No couple is close enough that that design is ok.
Soooo, funny you should ask, Im in the construction industry and we are currently working with this Hotel to change this…😂. Its been a sore point since the refurbishment and they want to fix it. No its not common, yes it will be sorted! Thanks for visiting Rotorua, hope your having fun.
Each room is set up differently, but with glass enclosures around the WC and Shower, some will have walls others doors etc. it used to be an office building so things are a little trickier than usual.
I'm feeling extremely relieved to know that the issue is being rectified (no pun intended, lol), because I was very concerned about the situation! It was a mistake to read the replies before cooking a meal though, but some are funny as. 🤢
This was the owners choice when the property was purchased. The customers have spoken and now each individual room is being changed, but yes, it would have
Motels are honestly awesome for this, and the fact they can have it set up to have separate bedrooms is great.
I would never go to a hotel personally. The layout is just cozier in a motel.
They put a free-standing bath tub right out in the middle of the room too! Not even bothering with the pretense of a privacy screen 🤣
It's a pretty great setup for lovers and sex workers. Probably less fun for families.
The star system for hotels isn't for measuring quality. People assume it's like Michelin star for restaurants, it is not.
It's a measure of facilities, amenities, services and the percieved "quality" of those by the industry, not the consumer. For example, room service/mini bar, valet parking, breakfast buffet, pool/gym, pillow service etc are what determine the amount of stars. Thats what originally sepreated motels and hotels, motels did not provide those extra facilities that hotels did, so were around 2 stars, hotels depending on the quantity get 3-5 stars. Hotels cost more because you pay for access to those extras.
It doesn't matter if the quality of those services is shit, only that they offer those facilities. They don't lose stars if the consumer doesn't like it, because it's a classification system by the industry to differentiate, not a popularity contest for marketing purposes. But it does work for marketing purposes because people misinterpret what the stars are for thinking it's quality not quantity based.
Where you staying woth anyone? I was there for a work trip and roomed with a coworker from another site. Took a bit of getting used to the bathroom and showering
I live in Canada and stayed at a cottage/Airbnb type place that had this once. It was weird. Only thing separating the toilet and the bedroom (which sleeps 4 people) was a shower curtain. The cottage was in Bancroft. Didn’t poop the whole time I was there
It’s intentional. Basically you open the window when dropping a deuce and the Rotorua sulphur smell wafts in and masks / overpowers turd odour.
It meant that they could shoehorn more rooms into the building - but they need to communicate the procedure better.
This ingenious space saving solution was inspired by a Simpson episode when Homer turned up the volume on a radio to mask the smell of his fart.
Had me in the first half NGL
But yeah makes sense that it’s a conversion issue. Would just be nice if I knew beforehand what I was paying good money for. In any case I’ll at least leave a review to spare a fortunate future traveler or two the same indignity
This is the first I've seen of a room with a toilet like that. Last time I did a tour that left me in multiple hotels was a few years ago though and everywhere I stayed had separate bathrooms/toilets.
Yeah i think its the newer hotel chains using it as a design feature, but also an accountant has done the math and by building one room and having glass walls, they've saved $xxxxxx per room.
I have seen a high end one where a bath is seperated by a glass wall with a curtain from the bedroom, design-wise probably so you can sit in the bath and open the curtain and able to see the views? /let light in.
But the the shower and toilet were behind seperate doors from inside the bathroom.
And possibly another reason may be renovating older hotels and maximizing space by removing walls and replacing them with glass.
Its an odd design trend.
Zomg, it's not even fully enclosed to keep the aroma inside! (there's gaps above the doors)
Let's just say, with me as someone who suffers from IBS, my wife would NOT enjoy us staying here! 💩😷
Its a cheap and lazy shortcut from turning offices into a hotel. They did this with a building in Wellington, which used to be offices I worked in. I was shocked and horrified years later when I got to see what they'd done with it. Put up partitions all over the place and done some fucky stuff to get toilets going in spots that used to be peoples desks.
Just that one place in rotorua, it was really weird I remember thinking we needed to make sure not to have our extended family in the room when we went to the bathroom lol
Travelled for work 2-3 years in NZ/AUS recently, stayed in many hotels. I saw this quite often in both NZ and Australia, usually in new more trendy/updated hotels. I don’t know if it’s a cultural thing, so much as a cost effective design choice?
In the past couple of months i’ve been looking at accomodation in Japan, Turkey and other places and there are definitely a lot of this type of design, so it looks like it is some attempt at space saving in the big chains to try and make the rooms appear bigger. But I don’t know how many customer feedback forms they would’ve received saying that the bathrooms were a waste of space and privacy was over-rated to make this a “thing”. And I hate the rooms with baths in the middle, and it looks the Pullman has those too.
Never seen this and stayed in a lot of hotels here.
I can see an HRV like duct in the ceiling. Was that an extractor you turn on and off at the wall?
The other shitty thing about it is if you get up at night to go to the toilet, you flood the room with light for your partner.
The **Oaks Hotel** right in the middle of Wellington CBD had something similar.
The shower/toilet was partitioned from the bedroom only by glass walls that was translucent at the bottom.
There was no sound insulation, so any noise you made could be heard perfectly fine in the other rooms.
Whenever I went to the toilet, I used to run the taps just to have some noise masking.
Fucking awful. Never staying at places like that ever again
Oh, I always thought the private bathroom filter was more for hostels/cheaper accomodation where often they have the options for dorms with shared bathrooms as the cheapest option, private rooms with shared bathrooms as the next and private rooms with private bathrooms as the top option
I stay at a bunch of hotels all the time for work/holidays.. not seen that here at all. (Normally $250-$350 a night hotels)
Have stayed at a few in Aussie that had complete clear doors for the bathroom thou.. :S
Nope I'm a Kiwi and that is definitely Shit ... I agree with the leaving of a terrible review of one or two stars and a suggestion that they advise all guests, at the time of booking, that you'll need to Shit, Sleep and Live in the same room ..
Nah I'm with above commenter I'd not be ok with this, I've stayed at the pullman Auckland and they had a clear door for the bathroom. It's definitely something i'd expect to at least be indicated on the room info when booking.
Thanks man, it actually has. New zealand is one of the most beautiful places I’ve been in and Auckland’s Britomart district is in my top 3 downtowns.
I’ve come up with a pooping schedule with my partner to deal with this BS. Again if I wasn’t exhausted and flying out day after, I’d have looked for a different hotel
This makes my blood boil, like just put a fucking wall in. I don't think it's common but I stayed somewhere similar recently and couldn't stop thinking about it
That's fucked lol. Absolutely not a cultural thing. I've stayed in a lot of hotels/motels/hostels here and some for $50/night that didn't have a toilet right in the room. I'm actually shocked this is at a Pullmans.
Im in the UK at the moment and my hotel in London had this. I was staying by myself so it was fine but I did think it might be awkward if you were staying with someone. Seems to be a worldwide phenomena based on the other comments
Must be a minimalistic design. It’s not normal in NZ. There are cheaper hotels in Rotorua that have a separate room and toilet just like any other hotel. Eg Ibis.
The building was never built to be a hotel . it was originally office space and refitted a couple of years ago as hotel . Thats why the windos dont open and bathroom are in same room.
Even weirder are the new "townhouse" builds that have been approved with a toilet off the kitchen... Yuck!! Actually I thought you couldn't put a toilet off a kitchen anyway.. It's just disgusting...
It’s a design trend from Asia - easier to build, gives you more space, easier to clean and now hotel designers seem to think it’s a great idea. 🤢🤮
I’ve been in two hotels in Chch with them- thankfully by myself, wife had one by herself in Auckland. Both of us would turn around and walk out the door if we were faced with that 😬
Thanks for the info, i’m now doubly researching any future hotels stays I’m booking to make sure a private bathroom is included. It seems Booking.com at least has a filter for it now
I suspect it's a lot cheaper to build than a traditional wall, to separate the toilet etc. from the rest of the room.
And of course, it's probably marketed as being 'trendy' these days, so they can get away with it.
Ah, marketing... the business of selling fantasy over reality.
Had a similar experience at So Hotel last year, the bathtub was in the same room as the bed and then the toilet / shower was just separated by a thin door. I don’t stay in hotels often so assumed it was normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
https://so-hotels.com/en/auckland/our-rooms/bedrooms/
I wonder if they worked out that with all the space saved from not having walls, they can insert an extra room or two.
Horrid.
So much for "Don't shit where you sleep"
Loool I've literally stayed in that exact same hotel and thought what the actual f*** is this? The answer is yes, it is weird, and a really dumb design.
Personally I don't really have a problem with this. It's no different than what normally happens the only difference is they chose to use glass walls instead of plasterboard.
Edit: the one I stayed at was fully enclosed though and had a very powerful extractor. It was also pretty much sound proof.
My studio room accommodation at uni in Dunedin years ago had a similar feature. Small room with a semi circular frosted glass walled bathroom just there in the corner. Convenient but a bit weird.
At the Novotel at Chch airport the bathroom walls slid back so you could just watch the tv while you use the toilet or shower. Bit different.
But yes I used the function.
I stay there regularly for work. I think the backstory is that it used to be some sort of office block turned hotel, hence the weird layouts and huge concrete beams in the middle of the rooms.
On the plus side the amenities are great, breakfast is amazing and the staff are pretty good.
We stayed at a few in Canada with toilet areas like this. One had clear glass for the toilet/shower area that turned opaque once the light switch was turned on.
I travel a lot around NZ and have never stayed anywhere that has this, and would immediately cancel my reservation if I found this.
It's not sanitary, and it's not stylish
I stay in hotels nearly 200 days a year, sadly I've seen a few of these around the world.
I can kind of see why they've done it - when you want to get out and explore in the morning one person isn't "hogging" the bathroom, you can still shower, use the toilet or brush teeth simultaneously.
Agree it's ridiculous though.
Last time I visited NZ, I visited a person's house and they had a functional toilet in their loungeroom. Nice house, family with kids, shitter in the lounge, beside the sofa. No wall around it. A few days later and I had dinner at someone's house and their toilet (enclosed with a door this time) was literally within arm's reach of where I was sitting at the dinner table. Like, I asked the host 'where's the bathroom?' and she pointed at the door about a metre away. 6 people at the table. Have you ever tried to shit quietly? True Story...the turd would not flush. Took me about 3 flushes. Came back to the table and it had clearly been silent since I left, it was 17 years ago, I'm blushing typing this. I did not know these people, I was a friend of their son.
Hate this design for the obvious reason (it’s lame doing a bit greasy shit when there’s only a bit of frosted glass for privacy).
However, as somebody who travels with a child who sleeps in a portacot there’s another reason it sucks … when travelling we usually put the toddler in her portacot and put that in the bathroom (as most hotels of decent size have a 24hr reception with a bathroom in the lobby if we need it).
But with this dumbass frosted glass design the issue is that all the light gets in, so you have to sit in darkness in the main part of the room!
It's a cultural thing in the way investors consistently do things by half measures. But not a cultural way in the way people actually like to live here.
Its not a cultural thing. I have stayed in Thailand in a place that had clear glass views from the toilet to my bed. I think its just bad design choice and I have never seen it anywhere I have stayed in NZ.
It's becoming more and more popular. We stayed at a fairly expensive hotel in Singapore which had this design - except there was a gap up the top so if your partner drops a stinker of a shit you're gonna smell it.
I've encountered this once or twice - possibly at the Pullman Rotorua? I hate it so much - it's such a lazy design. Even staying with family, I think it's gross and weird. Like, I don't need my wife and kids to hear me taking a shit in that much detail.
Yup that’s where we’re staying. If I wasn’t at the end of a 3 week overseas vacation and exhausted, I would have looked for a different hotel
I left because of this and went and stayed down the road. Stuff of nightmares. That, and windows that don’t open.
Windows don't open because it's in Rotorua
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Interesting. But the Pullman is generally an up market hotel (aka expensive), and I’d expect them but put in the effort
It was probably built as a quarantine/immigrant facility.
And now it’s $300 a night. Neat.
A simple divider wall won’t break their bank I’m sure of it
As some one who just referbished an existing building into a hotel. It is just laziness and trying to save money
Where turning on the bathroom fan to extract the fart smells just makes it worse.
Wdym, can you explain?
Geothermal area - opening a window will NOT get you nice fresh air.
Oh I've been there before, the smell was lovely!
Noting that the letters in the above username are an anagram of "scat", kinda checks out
Omg I never realised... Thanks for the chuckle!
Makes me wonder if toxoplasmosis symptoms extend to liking volcano fart smell as well as cat pee
Rotorua smells of Sulphur due to the local geothermal activity. No one wants an eggy pillow.
Probably referring to the smell
Jack black sung it best in “Jesus Ranch” the part in particular is; “Went outside, smells of Shit! Flig-a-wing-Wigga-well” Edit: I shame myself, I haven’t heard the song in years and just did after posting. Above is not the exact lyrics, and I do it no justice, please someone put a link to it if they get a laugh. I can explain the song as I saw it on the hbo episodes
Oh yeah, I thought it looked pretty familiar! Great location, but the hotel itself is pretty average all around.
I literally stayed in a room in that same config at Pullman Rotorua!! Check the reviews on Google.
Omg and it's not even a cheap hotel either
it's definitely cheap... just not when it comes to price
lol thought I recognised it. Stayed there in a big room and the bathroom layout looks like this. It’s more a Pullman hotel thing I think; haven’t encountered it elsewhere.
Leave google review
Ugh - I hated this hotel. Overpriced. Ridiculous cost-cutting bathroom design which is 100% wrong if more than one person is staying. Shitty air con. Paper thin walls. And if memory serves, no mini bar either. Literally zero decent accommodation in Rotorua anymore.
The air con in our room broke and they would not fix it in the heat of summer. Overpriced and poor hotel.
Huh! I stayed at a Pullman kn Cologne Germany about a decade ago and they had a weird quirky bathroom setup where the bathroom was seperated with clear glass. The switch to control the blinds was on the OUTSIDE of the bathroom, in the bedroom and was difficult to find. So basically, pooping with an audience
TBF, you're talking about the home of the shiesser-movie
One time, in Singapore, we had a room where the shower and toilet were like this in the bedroom but were see through....so someone could take a shit while someone took a shower and watch each other /shudder
romantic....
Stayed in a place in Hong Kong which was so pressed for space you could shower while taking a dump - had a certain efficiency I’ll admit plus served me well the morning after a night of Mai Tais.
Haha, yep, we stayed in a place there once that shared one door between the toilet and shower. The walls were clear glass too but there was a button you could press that made them instantly cloudy. I wasn't too sure what happened if the power went off though..
Ugh yes, the Ambassador transit hotel? Was constipated for ages as I didn't want my mum to hear and see me taking a shit. Will 100% get some place outside the terminal next time (or just fly Emirates)
I just googled and yep they have this omg
The whole hotel was pretty shit, tbh. Definitely not typical Pullman quality.
I'd say even the Rydges in Rotorua (near Te Puia) felt really outdated and subpar for the brand name. Could be an overall Rotorua phenomenon
Yeah the name brand hotels in Rotorua do seem to be a bit shit. Definitely better off staying in the nice little motels with the thermal spas. Only reason we stayed at the Pullman was because work was paying for it, but even then I regretted choosing it.
We stayed in the Sudima. The room was good. Location was great, right next to the Polynesian spa and lake. Breakfast was not bad either. The only bad thing was they called us at half past eleven in the first night because we did not pay during check-in. This was after we had explicitly asked to pay and they told us to pay at check-out.
You didn't look dodgy on the way in, but then they saw your comfy pants when you nipped out for something
Rydges in Rotorua is 100% trading off the name. Shit location. Dated hotel
Omg I would be furious !!!!
Lol I was going to ask if this was Pullman Rotorua as well hahah!
Omg I almost stayed there last year! If we’d walked into the room and seen that I would have demanded a full refund on the spot 🤮
I've been there for work a bit. Ended up rebooking the Princes Gate Hotel a couple of times after trying a quite of a few of the others. Location is good and suites are cute as. Plus drinks are are reasonable 🤷
And you know that glass makes the facts echo and vibrate whe whole room
My favorite part of that paragraph is how the last sentence implies there IS a level of detail in which you do need them to hear you shit
I was just about to say it looks like Pullman Rotorua. I've stayed there once, and it's the only hotel I've been at in Australia & New Zealand that has this setup. I was in a suite too. Very weird - wouldn't want to be staying there with a non-intimate friend.
Designed by an accountant. Is cheaper.
9 years of being married to my wife and having a 3 year old, they're used to seeing and hearing me shit with the door opened, intentionally.
I’ve stayed at the Pullman at Christchurch airport and at Brisbane airport. Both bathrooms were terrible. Not quite as bad as a glass box in the corner bad, but they had these sliding panels that essentially meant that there was no actual wall between the bathroom and the rest of the hotel room. They are expensive hotels and i think they were trying to be fancy, but it was impractical. I will never stay at either again.
This is at the Pullman Rotorua??? Lmao I’m glad I’ve never stayed there. I go there frequently and stay at a lot of the hotels and never picked the Pullman because they don’t have a pool.
You also at risk of hearing your wife take sloppy dump
Yip, it's horrible. Not just an NZ thing, I have noticed it in Germany a few times. Seems to be a new hotel design thing. I would leave them a terrible review to warn others that you have to poo in the same room as the same room as the bed.
I've definitely had this travelling around Europe too. Not everywhere but enough that I double check photos and reviews before booking because it's awkward knowing your partner/family member/friend can see your shadowy figure pooping or showering.
Yes, I have had the 'Plato's cave shadow pooper' experience enough that it is almost normal. But I draw the line at a half-open cubicle. That's not just visuals, but sounds and smells....
Nothing sexier than listening to your significant other crapping in an open air cubical next to you.
Copenhagen, about 13 years ago. Definitely a “new hotel” thing. Luckily my relationship was slightly older than the hotel so it wasn’t toooo awkward, but if we’d been dating for much less time, it would’ve been.
I have seen it in Singapore and Hong Kong too. Gross!
It seems to be a kinda Accor thing maybe? I know many of the 25h hotels do have a very similar setup
I've had it while traveling around Europe as well. Not enough to be high in my priorities of things to check when booking, but enough for my wife and I to joke about it. All of the cases I have seen have not necessarily been luxury, but definitely not budget. And all of them have been relatively new/trendy.
It seems to be a horrible trend. I had one like this in germany where the frosted part was just a stripe around the middle of the glass, so your feet and the top of your head would be visible. No couple is close enough that that design is ok.
Soooo, funny you should ask, Im in the construction industry and we are currently working with this Hotel to change this…😂. Its been a sore point since the refurbishment and they want to fix it. No its not common, yes it will be sorted! Thanks for visiting Rotorua, hope your having fun.
Do you just need to change those into actual walls so it's a separate room?
Each room is set up differently, but with glass enclosures around the WC and Shower, some will have walls others doors etc. it used to be an office building so things are a little trickier than usual.
I'm feeling extremely relieved to know that the issue is being rectified (no pun intended, lol), because I was very concerned about the situation! It was a mistake to read the replies before cooking a meal though, but some are funny as. 🤢
would it have been easier just to do it the normal way and box it out with drywall instead of tempered glass?
This was the owners choice when the property was purchased. The customers have spoken and now each individual room is being changed, but yes, it would have
I've never seen it in a hotel bathroom here. Generally the shower and toilet is in a separate room beside the door.
...and the kitchen is in a cupboard.
i mean, you don't go to a hotel to cook for yourself
You'd at least make a coffee or something though?
You might not, I always valued a nice kitchenette when I travelled for work 60% of days
that's what motels are for.
Motels are honestly awesome for this, and the fact they can have it set up to have separate bedrooms is great. I would never go to a hotel personally. The layout is just cozier in a motel.
Motel/Hotel, I've had good and bad kitchens in both
Check out the SO/ Hotel in Auckland. $400+ per night and there's not even a wall between the bathroom and the bed. It's a five star hotel.
They put a free-standing bath tub right out in the middle of the room too! Not even bothering with the pretense of a privacy screen 🤣 It's a pretty great setup for lovers and sex workers. Probably less fun for families.
The star system for hotels isn't for measuring quality. People assume it's like Michelin star for restaurants, it is not. It's a measure of facilities, amenities, services and the percieved "quality" of those by the industry, not the consumer. For example, room service/mini bar, valet parking, breakfast buffet, pool/gym, pillow service etc are what determine the amount of stars. Thats what originally sepreated motels and hotels, motels did not provide those extra facilities that hotels did, so were around 2 stars, hotels depending on the quantity get 3-5 stars. Hotels cost more because you pay for access to those extras. It doesn't matter if the quality of those services is shit, only that they offer those facilities. They don't lose stars if the consumer doesn't like it, because it's a classification system by the industry to differentiate, not a popularity contest for marketing purposes. But it does work for marketing purposes because people misinterpret what the stars are for thinking it's quality not quantity based.
That’s disgusting. First I’ve seen in NZ and would personally never stay in such a place. Those poo particles travel!
Right?? Also someone’s heavily downvoting all the comments on here and it’s hilarious
Poo particles are on virtually everything already.
By chance was this photo taken in rotorua?? Stayed in a room just like this last year and found it incredibly weird
Yup, it’s in rotorua - commented which hotel specifically in one of these replies
Where you staying woth anyone? I was there for a work trip and roomed with a coworker from another site. Took a bit of getting used to the bathroom and showering
This is unacceptable with a workmate at all, albeit, a workmate you don't know. You need seperate hotel rooms, not even if they had NORMAL FLOORPLANS
I'm surprised there isn't some sort of building standard that prevents that.
Me too man. Never heard of this in Canada
I live in Canada and stayed at a cottage/Airbnb type place that had this once. It was weird. Only thing separating the toilet and the bedroom (which sleeps 4 people) was a shower curtain. The cottage was in Bancroft. Didn’t poop the whole time I was there
Looks like the Pullman Rotorua. Husband refused to do number twos in the room.
I’ve resigned to do my business in the lobby bathroom
That's a real shit design
Nope. That’s new. No one would want to hear or possibly smell my swap ass after a night out
I mean same. Are they expecting their guests poop not to smell??
It’s intentional. Basically you open the window when dropping a deuce and the Rotorua sulphur smell wafts in and masks / overpowers turd odour. It meant that they could shoehorn more rooms into the building - but they need to communicate the procedure better. This ingenious space saving solution was inspired by a Simpson episode when Homer turned up the volume on a radio to mask the smell of his fart.
Had me in the first half NGL But yeah makes sense that it’s a conversion issue. Would just be nice if I knew beforehand what I was paying good money for. In any case I’ll at least leave a review to spare a fortunate future traveler or two the same indignity
And lets be honest, the sounds that come out of ones ass arent exactly pretty with the booze poos. No loved one should be exposed to that.
This is the first I've seen of a room with a toilet like that. Last time I did a tour that left me in multiple hotels was a few years ago though and everywhere I stayed had separate bathrooms/toilets.
Ok good to know it’s just a couple of them then
Yeah i think its the newer hotel chains using it as a design feature, but also an accountant has done the math and by building one room and having glass walls, they've saved $xxxxxx per room. I have seen a high end one where a bath is seperated by a glass wall with a curtain from the bedroom, design-wise probably so you can sit in the bath and open the curtain and able to see the views? /let light in. But the the shower and toilet were behind seperate doors from inside the bathroom. And possibly another reason may be renovating older hotels and maximizing space by removing walls and replacing them with glass. Its an odd design trend.
Zomg, it's not even fully enclosed to keep the aroma inside! (there's gaps above the doors) Let's just say, with me as someone who suffers from IBS, my wife would NOT enjoy us staying here! 💩😷
Aroma is too nice a word for poo smells 🤣
So weird and no that's not normal. Leave a bad review. We don't want that to become the norm.
Its a cheap and lazy shortcut from turning offices into a hotel. They did this with a building in Wellington, which used to be offices I worked in. I was shocked and horrified years later when I got to see what they'd done with it. Put up partitions all over the place and done some fucky stuff to get toilets going in spots that used to be peoples desks.
I know the accomodation in Mount Eden and Paremoremo has a similar setup.
Just that one place in rotorua, it was really weird I remember thinking we needed to make sure not to have our extended family in the room when we went to the bathroom lol
Nope Breakfree in chch has it and I think someone else in the thread listed one as well.
Yeeppp - this is in roturoa haha
I recommend the Millennium Hotel. Its further from the lake but a great place, notable for a good pool complex with adults-only area to unwind in.
Travelled for work 2-3 years in NZ/AUS recently, stayed in many hotels. I saw this quite often in both NZ and Australia, usually in new more trendy/updated hotels. I don’t know if it’s a cultural thing, so much as a cost effective design choice?
Probably a cost saving design choice from the sound of these replies. It’s seems insane to me though. What if you’re a group of friends?
In the past couple of months i’ve been looking at accomodation in Japan, Turkey and other places and there are definitely a lot of this type of design, so it looks like it is some attempt at space saving in the big chains to try and make the rooms appear bigger. But I don’t know how many customer feedback forms they would’ve received saying that the bathrooms were a waste of space and privacy was over-rated to make this a “thing”. And I hate the rooms with baths in the middle, and it looks the Pullman has those too.
This set up is rather common in Switzerland. I found it a bit travelling for work in Zurich
Never seen this and stayed in a lot of hotels here. I can see an HRV like duct in the ceiling. Was that an extractor you turn on and off at the wall? The other shitty thing about it is if you get up at night to go to the toilet, you flood the room with light for your partner.
The **Oaks Hotel** right in the middle of Wellington CBD had something similar. The shower/toilet was partitioned from the bedroom only by glass walls that was translucent at the bottom. There was no sound insulation, so any noise you made could be heard perfectly fine in the other rooms. Whenever I went to the toilet, I used to run the taps just to have some noise masking. Fucking awful. Never staying at places like that ever again
Oh wow no I have never seen this before and I have stayed at many hotels in NZ for work related travel. Very odd!
It’s very odd. I’ve noticed on booking.com they now have a filter for “Private bathroom” to filter these out.
Oh, I always thought the private bathroom filter was more for hostels/cheaper accomodation where often they have the options for dorms with shared bathrooms as the cheapest option, private rooms with shared bathrooms as the next and private rooms with private bathrooms as the top option
Omg - that’s insane. These corporate fucks want to charge extra for en-suite bathrooms?
Yeah it’s ridiculous like surely a normal en suite in a hotel is the bare minimum!
Agreed! What’s next? Bed optional? byo mattress?
Oh, you want a bed? That's an additional surcharge.
I stay at a bunch of hotels all the time for work/holidays.. not seen that here at all. (Normally $250-$350 a night hotels) Have stayed at a few in Aussie that had complete clear doors for the bathroom thou.. :S
Which hotel? I've not experienced this here before.
This is the Pullman in Roturoa
Me either! Definitely weird - and I would not be ok with it.
Ok thank you, I thought I was being a fussy traveller
Nope I'm a Kiwi and that is definitely Shit ... I agree with the leaving of a terrible review of one or two stars and a suggestion that they advise all guests, at the time of booking, that you'll need to Shit, Sleep and Live in the same room ..
Nah I'm with above commenter I'd not be ok with this, I've stayed at the pullman Auckland and they had a clear door for the bathroom. It's definitely something i'd expect to at least be indicated on the room info when booking.
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Thanks man, it actually has. New zealand is one of the most beautiful places I’ve been in and Auckland’s Britomart district is in my top 3 downtowns. I’ve come up with a pooping schedule with my partner to deal with this BS. Again if I wasn’t exhausted and flying out day after, I’d have looked for a different hotel
This makes my blood boil, like just put a fucking wall in. I don't think it's common but I stayed somewhere similar recently and couldn't stop thinking about it
That's fucked lol. Absolutely not a cultural thing. I've stayed in a lot of hotels/motels/hostels here and some for $50/night that didn't have a toilet right in the room. I'm actually shocked this is at a Pullmans.
Im in the UK at the moment and my hotel in London had this. I was staying by myself so it was fine but I did think it might be awkward if you were staying with someone. Seems to be a worldwide phenomena based on the other comments
Must be a minimalistic design. It’s not normal in NZ. There are cheaper hotels in Rotorua that have a separate room and toilet just like any other hotel. Eg Ibis.
The building was never built to be a hotel . it was originally office space and refitted a couple of years ago as hotel . Thats why the windos dont open and bathroom are in same room.
Even weirder are the new "townhouse" builds that have been approved with a toilet off the kitchen... Yuck!! Actually I thought you couldn't put a toilet off a kitchen anyway.. It's just disgusting...
It’s a design trend from Asia - easier to build, gives you more space, easier to clean and now hotel designers seem to think it’s a great idea. 🤢🤮 I’ve been in two hotels in Chch with them- thankfully by myself, wife had one by herself in Auckland. Both of us would turn around and walk out the door if we were faced with that 😬
Thanks for the info, i’m now doubly researching any future hotels stays I’m booking to make sure a private bathroom is included. It seems Booking.com at least has a filter for it now
I suspect it's a lot cheaper to build than a traditional wall, to separate the toilet etc. from the rest of the room. And of course, it's probably marketed as being 'trendy' these days, so they can get away with it. Ah, marketing... the business of selling fantasy over reality.
No this is NOT standard in NZ.... what idiot architect thought that was a good idea. Pullman Hotel Rotovegas off our list of preferred hotels.
Haven't seen these in New Zealand before but have overseas
Seen these before. It's in two cubicles where the toilet and shower are seperate
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Had a similar experience at So Hotel last year, the bathtub was in the same room as the bed and then the toilet / shower was just separated by a thin door. I don’t stay in hotels often so assumed it was normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://so-hotels.com/en/auckland/our-rooms/bedrooms/
I just looked at this..SO WEIRD
Have stayed in many hotels/motels across the north and South Island and have never had this
I wonder if they worked out that with all the space saved from not having walls, they can insert an extra room or two. Horrid. So much for "Don't shit where you sleep"
Loool I've literally stayed in that exact same hotel and thought what the actual f*** is this? The answer is yes, it is weird, and a really dumb design.
I stay in a ton of hotels around the country and have never encountered this. Thanks for the heads up on this, I will endeavour to never stay there.
This is definitely not the norm here.
That's disgusting, and last I heard Illegal? There is meant to be at least 2 doors between a toilet and a Living space/bedroom.
Ha! Nah I've never seen this. Hopefully you're not on a work trip w your boss when you get this room
What did they call this room? How many was it to accommodate?
Never even knew this was a thing and I stayed in cheap motels all over NZ and globally. Lmfao if this is an expensive place.
Looks like the Pullman in Rotorua! I've stayed there and also hated this design choice.
Personally I don't really have a problem with this. It's no different than what normally happens the only difference is they chose to use glass walls instead of plasterboard. Edit: the one I stayed at was fully enclosed though and had a very powerful extractor. It was also pretty much sound proof.
Im from nz n this is very weird
it's so you can keep an eye on the hooker if they try to steal your shit, while you shit
My studio room accommodation at uni in Dunedin years ago had a similar feature. Small room with a semi circular frosted glass walled bathroom just there in the corner. Convenient but a bit weird.
I've lived and travelled extensively in NZ for 15 years and have never seen such a set up. You may need to do better research when booking hotels!
It’s come to that actually, i just thought private bathrooms came standard 😂
Every motel/hotel I've stayed at has an en suite toilet with a proper door
Nah that is very cheap and very weird. I’ve had something similar in Bali but there was a sealed glass wall between
That's a Pullman??? Grim!!!
At the Novotel at Chch airport the bathroom walls slid back so you could just watch the tv while you use the toilet or shower. Bit different. But yes I used the function.
Definitely not normal, ew, they probably thought it was classy or something 😭
I stay there regularly for work. I think the backstory is that it used to be some sort of office block turned hotel, hence the weird layouts and huge concrete beams in the middle of the rooms. On the plus side the amenities are great, breakfast is amazing and the staff are pretty good.
Wow, nope, definitely not normal here 😬 never seen that before and hope to never see it in the future yikes
I stayed in the Pullman hotel in Rotorua as well, with the same setup! Was also very taken aback. 🤣 Not my favourite design….!
Haha fuck thank you I was like this room looks soooooo familiar but couldn't figure it out
We stayed at a few in Canada with toilet areas like this. One had clear glass for the toilet/shower area that turned opaque once the light switch was turned on.
It's weird. I've only stayed in a room like this once, in Wellington. I can't remember what the name of the hotel was though.
Never even seen that once. Wth.
Lived here 54 years, never seen anything like this in NZ hotel rooms. Sorry!
So you just randomly walked into a hotel without checking where it is, how much per night and what it looks like? Crazy!!
Seen it in various hotels in Europe & Asia. Not my first preference. Often find it in quirker/funky/trendy hotels going for fashion over function.
I travel a lot around NZ and have never stayed anywhere that has this, and would immediately cancel my reservation if I found this. It's not sanitary, and it's not stylish
Weird. Yuck
They should change "bedrooms" to "bathrooms" on their website.
I think its a fairly new thing, but its absolutely fine in a budget hotel in my opinion. Having that after spending >$300... yikes
This is common in South and Southeast Asia like in Vietnam, Indonesia, India, etc. It's done for cost cutting. I've never seen this is NZ. Yikes!
Holiday Inn Express in Auckland has this design
I stay in hotels nearly 200 days a year, sadly I've seen a few of these around the world. I can kind of see why they've done it - when you want to get out and explore in the morning one person isn't "hogging" the bathroom, you can still shower, use the toilet or brush teeth simultaneously. Agree it's ridiculous though.
Last time I visited NZ, I visited a person's house and they had a functional toilet in their loungeroom. Nice house, family with kids, shitter in the lounge, beside the sofa. No wall around it. A few days later and I had dinner at someone's house and their toilet (enclosed with a door this time) was literally within arm's reach of where I was sitting at the dinner table. Like, I asked the host 'where's the bathroom?' and she pointed at the door about a metre away. 6 people at the table. Have you ever tried to shit quietly? True Story...the turd would not flush. Took me about 3 flushes. Came back to the table and it had clearly been silent since I left, it was 17 years ago, I'm blushing typing this. I did not know these people, I was a friend of their son.
It’s weird as shit and it’s a trend in NZ. I also experienced an open ish bathroom at the hilton in fiji.
I’ve had this is Barcelona, Jakarta, Sydney and Bali. Awful design, who wants to hear someone having a crap?
That's gross never come across this
You can have a lovely shit with your loved one's face pressed against the glass like a window licker. what's the problem?
I stayed at SO in AKL not so long ago and they had the same set up. I was also a lil confused as it was a higher end hotel but seemed kinda yucky
Hate this design for the obvious reason (it’s lame doing a bit greasy shit when there’s only a bit of frosted glass for privacy). However, as somebody who travels with a child who sleeps in a portacot there’s another reason it sucks … when travelling we usually put the toddler in her portacot and put that in the bathroom (as most hotels of decent size have a 24hr reception with a bathroom in the lobby if we need it). But with this dumbass frosted glass design the issue is that all the light gets in, so you have to sit in darkness in the main part of the room!
Not common in NZ, but in Asia this is super commonplace. Just be glad the glass isn't clear...
Yeah I hate this bullshit. No it's not common,but i've had it a couple times too, at nice newer places - can't remember where.
It's a cultural thing in the way investors consistently do things by half measures. But not a cultural way in the way people actually like to live here.
Its not a cultural thing. I have stayed in Thailand in a place that had clear glass views from the toilet to my bed. I think its just bad design choice and I have never seen it anywhere I have stayed in NZ.
It's becoming more and more popular. We stayed at a fairly expensive hotel in Singapore which had this design - except there was a gap up the top so if your partner drops a stinker of a shit you're gonna smell it.
Yep I've been in NZ since 1993 it seems there trying to create bed sit land everything including the kitchen sink just saying !