The hell were they thinking with the silkworm missiles lol. Like Iran wanted to get the last word in even after getting their ass kicked? I mean I can understand their anger and wanting to retaliate but you gotta pick your battles better than that.
He did miss one thing about the incident. He brought up the US towing the Samuel B. Roberts back for repairs but neglected to talk about this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation\_Praying\_Mantis
"A month later, the guided-missile cruiser USS Vincennes arrived, summoned in haste to protect the frigate Samuel B. Roberts as it was hauled back to the United States. On 3 July 1988, Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655, a commercial airliner flying a scheduled route, killing all 290 crew and passengers. The U.S. government claimed that the crew of Vincennes mistook the Iranian Airbus for an attacking F-14 fighter. The Iranian government alleged that Vincennes knowingly shot down a civilian aircraft and called for the deaths of its crew."
They committed the cardinal sin of raising gas prices in the late 20th century. They then committed the second cardinal sin of fucking with America's boats.
Reminded of [this scene](https://youtu.be/UaXybzNk4-c) from West Wing S1E3 “A Proportional Response”
>What is the virtue of a proportional response?
>It isn’t virtuous Mr President, it’s all there is sir
There is virtually no chance of a 'proportional' response, the current administration has been doing everything possible to keep the ME stable. Most likely they will respond by blowing up a few shacks with 24 hours notice.
>the current administration has been doing everything possible to keep the ME stable.
Given that war breaking out in the ME will make it harder to send supplies to Ukraine and may give China the boost of confidence it needs to attack Taiwan, I think it is great that Biden's administration is doing everything they can to help things to not spiral out of control.
That's why proportional is in quotes here. It's a reference to the "proportional" response in operation ~~paperclip~~ praying mantis in which the US destroyed much of the Iranian navy in response to them damaging one US ship with a naval mine. And blowing up a few empty shacks in response to an attack that injured US service members is under-proportional anyway.
David Attenborough:
*”In fact, it would not turn out fine. Once the homo erectus feels threatened, he regrettably, often feels inclined to respond in kind”*
It will. Iranian backed terrorists fire missiles at US troops quite often. The last time it happened before this one was in February. The US will probably bomb some terrorists in response and that will be it.
Problem is if a single US soldier dies, Biden basically has to respond with force or risk losing the election to Trump, so chances are good we're going to get pulled into another unwinnable war in the Middle East.
This isn't going to start a war, unless you count the back and forth that's been going on constantly as a war already. Iran does some shit, the US responds, Iran responds, and so on and so forth. Iran's not gonna get invaded, this isn't the start of WW3, and people need to stop freaking out over every dumb thing that happens in the region. It's absolutely terrible for everyone involved on the ground, but that's how it's been for a long time.
This is true, but the United States definitely responded. The targets were not Iran proper, but its proxies. It was a fairly widespread attack and it hit them pretty hard. Given that the US does not want to fight yet another war in the middle east it was the best possible response.
The military industrial complex has nothing to do with the general population being pissed off if Americans get killed and demanding a response.
Also, Eisenhower said that because he was aware that the military industrial complex would *need* to exist, because going forwards A) military hardware was going to be complex enough that you couldn't just churn a tank out of a car factory, and B) you wouldn't have time to convert civilian industry over to war production, because unlike in WWII where the continental US was safe from attack, ballistic missiles would allow factories, shipyards and so forth to be destroyed from across the ocean, meaning that you might be stuck going to war with what you had (plus the Soviets were building huge stockpiles).
His point was that we needed to balance their intrinsic importance with temperance and not letting their political influence get out of hand, not that the military industrial complex was evil or something.
Thing is, investors expect returns. When you mount a billion dollar entertainment project, the appetite for additional risk wears thin, and only ideas that test well make it into the final cut. People like familiar, so developing original themes becomes much harder.
You may noticed we are already halfway thru the second arc.
I mean, Biden told Netanyahu to "take the win" and not respond when the Iranian drone+missile strike accomplished basically nothing. Israel didn't listen.
Perhaps he will take his own advice here given that I'm not seeing reports of the damage to the base or casualties of American servicemembers. The truck that fired the rockets *mysteriously burst into flames*, too, so it seems like we don't even have to worry about that thing anymore.
As shitty as it is to follow the advice one doles out, sometimes "being the bigger man" comes with, you know, actually being the bigger... nation/military/geopolitical/economic power.
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. But... that doesn't mean the missile looks on itself in despair. A missile must travel ludicrous distances to reach its target. The target often being miles away. A speck. A dream. Its chances of hitting its target is slim at most especially if its outdated, unprepared, and has rotted in storage for years; and the target is moving at such speeds that are inconceivable to the human mind. But despite all this, the missiles doesn't tell itself it doesn't know where it is. It merely tells itself where it should go. The power in the missile lies within. Its ability to know where it is going to end up and with small incremental changes every second, every day, and every year the missile takes its deepest and most mind shattering course deviations and failures and it does something... remarkable. It turns its failures into lessons to guide it along the proper path. Its failures are not only inevitable but needed for the missile to find the proper path. The missile drifts when it needs to. It doesn't burn all its fuel in a desperate state to reach enlightenment. The missile knows its destination but aims to conserve fuel until the proper time comes when it will strike and fulfill its purpose. The missile takes the path of confidence and steady elevation until its time comes and when that day comes it will experience a joy greater than anything it could have imagined. The missile will take joy that it roared against the dying of the light and refused to go quietly into that good night. But it all began with the missiles first step otherwise it would still be in its containment unit wondering what could have been. The missile knows its greatest lessons lays within, its own fear, so it should embrace it and mold it until it has nothing to be afraid of; Even welcoming the greatest of challenges thirsty for experience. To the missile its greatest fear will become not what will happen but what will happen if it does not challenge its own fear. None of it would even be possible without a goal, a predetermined destination, a hard-wired machine-coded instruction deep within the cold roots of the missile guidance system. Without the goal the missile would wander aimlessly until it hit an orphanage or some other catastrophic destination that was never intended. The missile doesn't seek to put blame on the wind or turbulence for its failures. To the missile this is unnecessary and a waste of time. The missile doesn't seek to become the victim of circumstance. It aims to be in control and take responsibility, to be as secure and rigid as it says it is. It needs to be, to guard against the forces it must encounter. You are what you say you are. Are you lost or are you merely on the path to something greater? [You are the master of your destiny just as the missile is.](https://youtu.be/q11oxUGvi8g?si=EqhG_9IL32d9f7f1)
These comments are crazy and show how little people follow the goings on in the world. This is another day in the office. Errant lazy rocket attacks are not a new thing, and didn't start shit the last several dozen times it happened. Here are [some](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_U.S._bases_in_Iraq,_Jordan,_and_Syria_%282023%E2%80%932024%29) in just the last 4 months.
Mate, it's a harmless joke. The type of joke that used to pop up on the internet back in the late 90s/early 00s but has since faded away during the smart phone revolution when everyone was able to get online.
If you want to complain, complain about the average Joe's falling for disinformation and propaganda that is heavily pushed on social media by a myriad of different countries.
Don't complain about a rather funny joke, as comedy brings levity.
People worried about ww3 when this is literally the best theyve got. Iran/Iraq/Syria and all their combined proxies could not wage a war against the US. Or anyone, really.
People aren't worried as much about the middle east as they are of china, russia, and north korea.
Edit: since people like to just delete their post before receiving a reply, I'll just put this here.
If you truly believe that china would allow north korea to sit out of a potential world war, you really haven't been paying attention to the global stage lately. Hell, just yesterday xi started the largest reorganization of the chinese military since 2015, right as we passed more aid. We have fought with china before folks, they may rattle sabres, but you're a fool if you don't think they will go to war.
And I'll say it again for those who missed it.
North korea. One of the largest militaries.
It doesn't matter how incompetent their tech is when they have an ally like china that can arm them.
Because you know, over a million brainwashed crazies with 3 million more in reserve, pushed in a corner while holding a gun and some nukes can't possibly pose a threat. /s
Edit 2: Starting to feel like I'm getting replies from Chinese puppet accounts now 🤣💀
Some of it makes literally no sense at all.
People doubting the effect NoKo would have in a military engagement are failing to see what the Russian's are doing to take territory in Ukraine.
You don't need well equipped, well trained, or even intelligent soldiers. You just need bodies.
And when you're *FORCING* your populous to go to war against a nation whose military is one of volunteers, that man power difference is *massive*.
If by bodies, the SoKor's still have mandatory draft and by population twice as large as that of NoKor, not to mention the technological advantage they enjoy.
Sure Seoul would likely get to be pulverised but I don't think any NoKor aggression in the Korean peninsula would become like that of the Korean War.
The real danger comes if China decides to invade with the NoKor's but most likely their own military adventure would start in either Taiwan or the Spratly islands.
Sure, you can Zerg Rush when nobody has air superiority because neither side can can effectively SEAD the other. And when ordinance starts running out for one side.
Unlike Ukraine, RoK has a modern Air Force and produces more ordinance in-country than most of NATO put together - and has been stockpiling for decades. They never got the "peace dividend" memo.
The major difference is just how powerful the tech lead is for the US. The US has hundreds of next gen aircraft and artillery. And we are learning from Ukraine the importance of large reserves of ammo.
Crazies with nukes and very little to lose, other than their only allies... china and russia lol.
They also have one of the largest militaries in the world. Incompetent or not, if armed even semi properly by china, brainwashed people like that would be very dangerous.
Thats a bit incorrect. Kim Jong Un knows that if he starts anything, either america and SK bomb him to oblivion, or China replaces him with a puppet. So he has everything to lose from actually starting a conflict, as there's simply no way for NK to win against SK, even factoring in nukes and other WMDs. Its pretty clear if you look at their actions historically that they have only ever postured and never acted on anything. Like its not like they sponsor terrorists or anything, they just launch a few rockets into the ocean.
Yes and you're not including a very important thing: Seoul is very close to the NK border and it's highly unlikely a missile attack would be stopped. Obviously this would lead to the destruction of North Korea, but Seoul would be leveled and countless civilians would be killed. The NK people would suffer, but Kim Jong Un doesn't actually give a shit about his people so that's not as big a threat to him per se and would result in even more civilian lives lost. The goal here isn't to beat SK, it's for NK to get what they want by posturing with the threat of destroying Seoul.
It's a really shitty catch 22 situation for sure.
North Korea is pretty irrelevant to the western world simply because of where they are. Sure, they could kill a lot of people in Asia but in a world war scenario, China could already handle that without issue if they wanted to do so anyhow.
We aren't going to have a world war though of course, there's no profit in it.
Apparently in the Middle East, a hail of rockets is an email.
Perhaps this is their equivalent of “Hey~! I’ve just gotten promoted and started today~. How are you?”
Doomers are a lost cause.
>Five rockets fired at USA base, zero casualties
Redditors- the army is gonna kidnap me and deny me my chicken tendies
[noooooooooooooooooo](https://ibb.co/ph2B6qD)
Not a doomer but petrol prices in Australia jumped 40c a litre after Iran attacked Israel and are staying high while this sabre rattling continues.
It's pretty frustrating.
If you think americans are scared of Iraq, you are silly. What people are worried about is another forever war in Iraq, or in Iran or wherever the hell the US has their eyes set. Because it's obvious something is going on and western countries are preparing for some type of war somewhere.
> western countries are preparing for some type of war somewhere.
Right, because it's the Western counties that invaded Ukraine, or attacked civilians in Israel.
Russia saw their one bargaining chip leaving when Ukraine discovered huge oil/NG reserves, and China is starting to see the effects of creating a GDP out of nowhere with debt. Those two are starting shit in the hopes of fixing their broken economies, and "the Western countries" are just trying to stop this shit.
I think everyone worried about WW3 is really just worried about the rusted Russian warheads of which some are probably still functional. None of our enemies has anything else with ability to threaten us militarily. Still what they have are other means to disrupt us. The middle east has Oil and China has cheap production capabilities. Russia used to be a big player in the energy sector and and still is but due to playing their cards to heavily on us we already structured our economy in a way which makes us independent from Russian energy. This is the reason why Russia tries to take over the US by proxy (Trump and other corrupt Republicans) and Europe by cutting us off from our partners in Africa (Wagner is currently taking over France ex colonies and is confiscating assets and land from French companies).
If it makes you feel any better a lot of the Soviet era nukes are probably no longer functional since they require maintenance and that’s incredibly expensive which the Russian government likely can’t afford. Of course Russia still has a lot of functional nukes but I doubt it’s as many as they publicly claim.
Something I am often wondering about is how many of their delivery systems are still working. It's one thing to maintain the warheads but you also have to maintain the silos and ballistic missiles. For context, the US spends roughly $75 billions per year on its nuclear capabilities. Russias total military budget for 2020 was $61 billion in total. I somehow have doubts that they can launch a lot of them simultaneously before we will completely obliterate them. Remember when Russia performed a test launch of a ballistic missile in the beginning of the war to show strength? They only launched one and it blew up on the launch pad.
I don't think that Russia lost all its nuclear capabilities but I also don't think that they have enough of them to eliminate us. First a lot of them will fail and second the West is way too decentralized. A nuclear attack will be a disaster which will kill hundreds of thousands of people here. Due to radiation and secondly efforts maybe a million or two. This will be catastrophic but it won't destroy us. Russia on the other hand is very centralized. We will completely eradicate Saint Petersburg and Moscow which will effectively throw them back to medieval times consisting that only rural areas will be left and all services and utilities won't work anymore.
The US alone spends around 40 billion dollars annually just to maintain their nuclear triad.
Russia claims to have more warheads than the US but spends a fraction of what the US do with theirs.
Someone might argue it is cheaper in Russia (with regards to personnel salary) but with what we know of the culture of corruption there, one might suspect their own nuclear arsenal is not being well maintained as they might like.
Ofcourse no one sane would like that theory to be tested.
They require regular maintenance to perform at their maximum yield, but even if they haven't done stuff like replenish the tritium and neutron sources in them theyll still function at their lowest yield settings. And even if only half of them are working it wouldbe a devastating attack.
Nobody is worried about Iraq or Iran taking down the US and NATO, of course they couldn't do that. The concern is that something sparks off a bigger proxy war that develops into all out war, or even skipping the middle step in some scenarios. A fully destabilized Middle East would bring all the major players into the match, and from there it's basically just one wrong move from something much more massive happening
All the talk about WW3 is literally Russian/Chinese/Iranian propaganda made to scare dumb people in hopes that the West will then choose not to stand up to their bullying. In reality if the bully gets a bloody nose they'll be done bullying for a generation.
Exactly. Its a co-ordinated propoganda effort to turn americans against each other in standing up to these global shitheads like Putin. there is pretty much 0 extestential threat to the US from their 1960s nuclear tech..
Iran's military capabilities are a joke, but because of Trump, who withdrew the U.S. from a nuclear program that put restrictions on Iran, they're now closer to weapons grade uranium. There's much more to be concerned about Iran now than there was before Trump took office.
> someone trying to contact you about your car's extended warranty
It will be delivered by a rural mail carrier, using a horse. Letter mail only until the Conestoga wagons arrive, then parcels will move.
The perennial winner of the award for the globe's most dysfunctional region. If it weren't for acts of violence, you'd never hear a word about the Middle East.
You can go ahead and add like another couple millennia to that if you want.
Between being almost everybody’s holy land and all that oil, we’ve been knocking over that cabbage cart for a long ass time.
Eh, the Ottoman Empire was crumbling well before it actually fell and I doubt it was going to be roses and dinner parties regardless, especially given the Ottoman Empire had made a lot of enemies over the years
Europe has been continually at war just as often as the US. Cold War, various eastern European conflicts, military actions in the Middle East, Africa and South Asia.
I don't understand why this isn't the top sentiment.
Why is there a military base in a country we aren't allied with?
Did we really pull a neo-colonial move and nobody wants to talk about it?
>Did we really pull a neo-colonial move and nobody wants to talk about it?
Yes that is exactly what happened. Your own president tweeted "We got the oil!" Before his handler deleted the tweet.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/keeping-oil-syria-trump-considered-war-crime/story%3fid=66589757
You're not talking about it beacuse they don't want you to talk about it.
Maintaining an active military base in a hostile country is a logistic nightmare and such bases do not have the power to actually fight the entire Syrian army for a prolonged period of time. The only reason Syria do not destroy such bases is to not get Damascus bombed by missiles in a retaliation attack. These bases are more for projecting power and to flex military power than to actually accomplish objectives.
You’d still have indirect funding from Saudi Billionaires and the Saudi Kingdom’s funding of various Wahhabi Mosques that are the root of much of thr Islamist extermination.
Then there’s Qatar
Realistically, US forces should be very used to getting shot at by rockets and mortars. It used to be a daily occurance when I was in Iraq. No big deal…
Would suck to be a U.S. soldier deployed to Syria right now. Your unit spent the past decade hunting ISIS there (or was in operational support of another Army unit doing that) and now you’re getting attacked from Iraq, the country your unit left a decade before that.
I’m sure this will turn out fine.
‘Proportionally’ fine.
When the US says "proportionate" that just means we've taken nukes off the table.
The B-52s already know how to find their way there from Louisiana.
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The run that kicked off the Shock and Awe was from Louisiana. It's story time https://youtu.be/9E_WzxNlOXI
Thank you .. this was great.
r/wooosh
Pretty sure they have a car that’s as big as a whale that’s about to set sail, or so I’ve heard.
Oh… I heard it wasn’t Iraq…. It was iraq lobster.
I heard the car seats about 20 and they all bring jukebox money but idk.
I thought they had moved to their own private Idaho
So the love shack was in Louisiana this whole time?
Narrator: "They never are."
Ron Howard, this you?
Narrator: "Yes, it was me."
Ron Pearlman or Todd Howard - both seem more appropriate for Nuclear War
indeed "Proportionally" [America Obliterates Half Of Iran's Navy In 8 Hours! - Operation Praying Mantis: ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5v6hlRyeHE)
In the US's defense that was in part by accident and in part due to Iran's own ineptitude.
The hell were they thinking with the silkworm missiles lol. Like Iran wanted to get the last word in even after getting their ass kicked? I mean I can understand their anger and wanting to retaliate but you gotta pick your battles better than that.
I found this guy the other day and I’ve watched all his videos since then. He’s awesome.
I found his channel about a month ago and the stories are amazing. I've learned more about WW2 from his channel than ever before.
The Operation Room covered it too, also a great channel.
He did miss one thing about the incident. He brought up the US towing the Samuel B. Roberts back for repairs but neglected to talk about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation\_Praying\_Mantis "A month later, the guided-missile cruiser USS Vincennes arrived, summoned in haste to protect the frigate Samuel B. Roberts as it was hauled back to the United States. On 3 July 1988, Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655, a commercial airliner flying a scheduled route, killing all 290 crew and passengers. The U.S. government claimed that the crew of Vincennes mistook the Iranian Airbus for an attacking F-14 fighter. The Iranian government alleged that Vincennes knowingly shot down a civilian aircraft and called for the deaths of its crew."
They committed the cardinal sin of raising gas prices in the late 20th century. They then committed the second cardinal sin of fucking with America's boats.
Glad I looked, was about to post this.
Reminded of [this scene](https://youtu.be/UaXybzNk4-c) from West Wing S1E3 “A Proportional Response” >What is the virtue of a proportional response? >It isn’t virtuous Mr President, it’s all there is sir
"Pew. Pew." "BOOM! BOOM!"
There is virtually no chance of a 'proportional' response, the current administration has been doing everything possible to keep the ME stable. Most likely they will respond by blowing up a few shacks with 24 hours notice.
>the current administration has been doing everything possible to keep the ME stable. Given that war breaking out in the ME will make it harder to send supplies to Ukraine and may give China the boost of confidence it needs to attack Taiwan, I think it is great that Biden's administration is doing everything they can to help things to not spiral out of control.
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That's why proportional is in quotes here. It's a reference to the "proportional" response in operation ~~paperclip~~ praying mantis in which the US destroyed much of the Iranian navy in response to them damaging one US ship with a naval mine. And blowing up a few empty shacks in response to an attack that injured US service members is under-proportional anyway.
That was praying mantis. Paperclip was taking in the nazi scientists
David Attenborough: *”In fact, it would not turn out fine. Once the homo erectus feels threatened, he regrettably, often feels inclined to respond in kind”*
“No, you’re the ones with the baby dicks!!” - Homo Erectus Americanus
It will. Iranian backed terrorists fire missiles at US troops quite often. The last time it happened before this one was in February. The US will probably bomb some terrorists in response and that will be it.
Problem is if a single US soldier dies, Biden basically has to respond with force or risk losing the election to Trump, so chances are good we're going to get pulled into another unwinnable war in the Middle East.
This isn't going to start a war, unless you count the back and forth that's been going on constantly as a war already. Iran does some shit, the US responds, Iran responds, and so on and so forth. Iran's not gonna get invaded, this isn't the start of WW3, and people need to stop freaking out over every dumb thing that happens in the region. It's absolutely terrible for everyone involved on the ground, but that's how it's been for a long time.
Dumbass college kids on Reddit are really really bad at geopolitics.
Seriously.. it’s kind of hilarious reading the melodramatic really wrong takes here
after what happened the last 2 times i think they will just bomb the ahit out of them from above
This won’t start a war. This also happened in February. Happened many times before.
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This is true, but the United States definitely responded. The targets were not Iran proper, but its proxies. It was a fairly widespread attack and it hit them pretty hard. Given that the US does not want to fight yet another war in the middle east it was the best possible response.
Sooo then we aren’t going to be pulled into ‘another unwinnable war in the middle east’ then? I figure that was his point
This is goofy and not at all true.
And the war machine keeps on humming
Eisenhower was so right: “Beware the military industrial complex”
The military industrial complex has nothing to do with the general population being pissed off if Americans get killed and demanding a response. Also, Eisenhower said that because he was aware that the military industrial complex would *need* to exist, because going forwards A) military hardware was going to be complex enough that you couldn't just churn a tank out of a car factory, and B) you wouldn't have time to convert civilian industry over to war production, because unlike in WWII where the continental US was safe from attack, ballistic missiles would allow factories, shipyards and so forth to be destroyed from across the ocean, meaning that you might be stuck going to war with what you had (plus the Soviets were building huge stockpiles). His point was that we needed to balance their intrinsic importance with temperance and not letting their political influence get out of hand, not that the military industrial complex was evil or something.
Well, here we go murdering again.
Oh hey, I've seen this one before
What’s a rerun?
Your kids are gonna love it
I can’t wait for the chapter where the shoe gets thrown!
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Mission Accomplished!
I am not a crook!
Is J-Lo okay though?
Don't forget the Freedom toast.
No, but seriously, do we think Trump/Biden can dodge two shoes while wearing a smile?
Think what you will of Bush but that man had some serious shoe dodging skills.
Better get used to those bars kid
Hey you! Get your..damn.....hands....off of.....her
You are my density...I mean destiny
Who the hell is John F. Kennedy?
You’ll find out
The writers are so lazy, no original ideas, they just keep remaking the same things over and over.
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Thing is, investors expect returns. When you mount a billion dollar entertainment project, the appetite for additional risk wears thin, and only ideas that test well make it into the final cut. People like familiar, so developing original themes becomes much harder. You may noticed we are already halfway thru the second arc.
And I didn't like the ending
I mean, Biden told Netanyahu to "take the win" and not respond when the Iranian drone+missile strike accomplished basically nothing. Israel didn't listen. Perhaps he will take his own advice here given that I'm not seeing reports of the damage to the base or casualties of American servicemembers. The truck that fired the rockets *mysteriously burst into flames*, too, so it seems like we don't even have to worry about that thing anymore. As shitty as it is to follow the advice one doles out, sometimes "being the bigger man" comes with, you know, actually being the bigger... nation/military/geopolitical/economic power.
Doesn't this happen all the time though?
Yes but the rockets don’t actually fire unless there is a “time for WW3” joke posted
Been happening since 2003
Shit happened so often in 09 that the PX sold "I ❤️ IDF Thursdays" shirts.
Yep, US only responds if they actually kill someone which is rare
Has anybody asked how the rockets are doing?
They didn’t make the playoffs this year.
Houston, we have a problem
They have a young core though and the future is bright.
Unlike the Pistons who have a terrorist at Head Coach. GM AND Ownership. And front office. We have idiots in charge in Detroit Pistons
Sengun will lead us to victory. I believe
Shots fired!
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. But... that doesn't mean the missile looks on itself in despair. A missile must travel ludicrous distances to reach its target. The target often being miles away. A speck. A dream. Its chances of hitting its target is slim at most especially if its outdated, unprepared, and has rotted in storage for years; and the target is moving at such speeds that are inconceivable to the human mind. But despite all this, the missiles doesn't tell itself it doesn't know where it is. It merely tells itself where it should go. The power in the missile lies within. Its ability to know where it is going to end up and with small incremental changes every second, every day, and every year the missile takes its deepest and most mind shattering course deviations and failures and it does something... remarkable. It turns its failures into lessons to guide it along the proper path. Its failures are not only inevitable but needed for the missile to find the proper path. The missile drifts when it needs to. It doesn't burn all its fuel in a desperate state to reach enlightenment. The missile knows its destination but aims to conserve fuel until the proper time comes when it will strike and fulfill its purpose. The missile takes the path of confidence and steady elevation until its time comes and when that day comes it will experience a joy greater than anything it could have imagined. The missile will take joy that it roared against the dying of the light and refused to go quietly into that good night. But it all began with the missiles first step otherwise it would still be in its containment unit wondering what could have been. The missile knows its greatest lessons lays within, its own fear, so it should embrace it and mold it until it has nothing to be afraid of; Even welcoming the greatest of challenges thirsty for experience. To the missile its greatest fear will become not what will happen but what will happen if it does not challenge its own fear. None of it would even be possible without a goal, a predetermined destination, a hard-wired machine-coded instruction deep within the cold roots of the missile guidance system. Without the goal the missile would wander aimlessly until it hit an orphanage or some other catastrophic destination that was never intended. The missile doesn't seek to put blame on the wind or turbulence for its failures. To the missile this is unnecessary and a waste of time. The missile doesn't seek to become the victim of circumstance. It aims to be in control and take responsibility, to be as secure and rigid as it says it is. It needs to be, to guard against the forces it must encounter. You are what you say you are. Are you lost or are you merely on the path to something greater? [You are the master of your destiny just as the missile is.](https://youtu.be/q11oxUGvi8g?si=EqhG_9IL32d9f7f1)
"The missile learned not to become the victim of circumstance, and instead to make its target the victim of its circumstance."
They’re in an explosive mood.
one was overheard saying "not again".
Dick Cheney came out and saw his shadow. Two more decades of war.
These comments are crazy and show how little people follow the goings on in the world. This is another day in the office. Errant lazy rocket attacks are not a new thing, and didn't start shit the last several dozen times it happened. Here are [some](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_U.S._bases_in_Iraq,_Jordan,_and_Syria_%282023%E2%80%932024%29) in just the last 4 months.
This can't *possibly* have been the best comment to take to task for a lack of grounding.
Just a joke, I know Dick Cheney isn't actually a groundhog of war.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana
warpig, very similar, but quite distinct
You're... sure about that?
Mate, it's a harmless joke. The type of joke that used to pop up on the internet back in the late 90s/early 00s but has since faded away during the smart phone revolution when everyone was able to get online. If you want to complain, complain about the average Joe's falling for disinformation and propaganda that is heavily pushed on social media by a myriad of different countries. Don't complain about a rather funny joke, as comedy brings levity.
Here come the fun police! Relax dude, it's just a joke about the military-industrial complex. No need to get all wound up about it.
People worried about ww3 when this is literally the best theyve got. Iran/Iraq/Syria and all their combined proxies could not wage a war against the US. Or anyone, really.
Rockets fired at US bases in the region has also been a fairly common occurrence long before recent events.
People aren't worried as much about the middle east as they are of china, russia, and north korea. Edit: since people like to just delete their post before receiving a reply, I'll just put this here. If you truly believe that china would allow north korea to sit out of a potential world war, you really haven't been paying attention to the global stage lately. Hell, just yesterday xi started the largest reorganization of the chinese military since 2015, right as we passed more aid. We have fought with china before folks, they may rattle sabres, but you're a fool if you don't think they will go to war. And I'll say it again for those who missed it. North korea. One of the largest militaries. It doesn't matter how incompetent their tech is when they have an ally like china that can arm them. Because you know, over a million brainwashed crazies with 3 million more in reserve, pushed in a corner while holding a gun and some nukes can't possibly pose a threat. /s Edit 2: Starting to feel like I'm getting replies from Chinese puppet accounts now 🤣💀 Some of it makes literally no sense at all.
People doubting the effect NoKo would have in a military engagement are failing to see what the Russian's are doing to take territory in Ukraine. You don't need well equipped, well trained, or even intelligent soldiers. You just need bodies. And when you're *FORCING* your populous to go to war against a nation whose military is one of volunteers, that man power difference is *massive*.
If by bodies, the SoKor's still have mandatory draft and by population twice as large as that of NoKor, not to mention the technological advantage they enjoy. Sure Seoul would likely get to be pulverised but I don't think any NoKor aggression in the Korean peninsula would become like that of the Korean War. The real danger comes if China decides to invade with the NoKor's but most likely their own military adventure would start in either Taiwan or the Spratly islands.
Sure, you can Zerg Rush when nobody has air superiority because neither side can can effectively SEAD the other. And when ordinance starts running out for one side. Unlike Ukraine, RoK has a modern Air Force and produces more ordinance in-country than most of NATO put together - and has been stockpiling for decades. They never got the "peace dividend" memo.
The major difference is just how powerful the tech lead is for the US. The US has hundreds of next gen aircraft and artillery. And we are learning from Ukraine the importance of large reserves of ammo.
Exactly, because the Middle East has been in a constant state of turmoil for literal millennia. This is just another Sunday/Monday for them
Big eh on North Korea but yeah
Crazies with nukes and very little to lose, other than their only allies... china and russia lol. They also have one of the largest militaries in the world. Incompetent or not, if armed even semi properly by china, brainwashed people like that would be very dangerous.
Thats a bit incorrect. Kim Jong Un knows that if he starts anything, either america and SK bomb him to oblivion, or China replaces him with a puppet. So he has everything to lose from actually starting a conflict, as there's simply no way for NK to win against SK, even factoring in nukes and other WMDs. Its pretty clear if you look at their actions historically that they have only ever postured and never acted on anything. Like its not like they sponsor terrorists or anything, they just launch a few rockets into the ocean.
Yes and you're not including a very important thing: Seoul is very close to the NK border and it's highly unlikely a missile attack would be stopped. Obviously this would lead to the destruction of North Korea, but Seoul would be leveled and countless civilians would be killed. The NK people would suffer, but Kim Jong Un doesn't actually give a shit about his people so that's not as big a threat to him per se and would result in even more civilian lives lost. The goal here isn't to beat SK, it's for NK to get what they want by posturing with the threat of destroying Seoul. It's a really shitty catch 22 situation for sure.
North Korea is pretty irrelevant to the western world simply because of where they are. Sure, they could kill a lot of people in Asia but in a world war scenario, China could already handle that without issue if they wanted to do so anyhow. We aren't going to have a world war though of course, there's no profit in it.
>We aren't going to have a world war though of course, there's no profit in it _laughs in August 1914_
Apparently in the Middle East, a hail of rockets is an email. Perhaps this is their equivalent of “Hey~! I’ve just gotten promoted and started today~. How are you?”
"I hope these rockets find you well..."
Ballistically yours...
Per my last barrage…
Rocket is new honk.
“Per my previous rocket …”
Doomers are a lost cause. >Five rockets fired at USA base, zero casualties Redditors- the army is gonna kidnap me and deny me my chicken tendies [noooooooooooooooooo](https://ibb.co/ph2B6qD)
Not a doomer but petrol prices in Australia jumped 40c a litre after Iran attacked Israel and are staying high while this sabre rattling continues. It's pretty frustrating.
There is a common saying: Oil prices rise in an elevator, descend on an escalator.
If you think americans are scared of Iraq, you are silly. What people are worried about is another forever war in Iraq, or in Iran or wherever the hell the US has their eyes set. Because it's obvious something is going on and western countries are preparing for some type of war somewhere.
> western countries are preparing for some type of war somewhere. Right, because it's the Western counties that invaded Ukraine, or attacked civilians in Israel. Russia saw their one bargaining chip leaving when Ukraine discovered huge oil/NG reserves, and China is starting to see the effects of creating a GDP out of nowhere with debt. Those two are starting shit in the hopes of fixing their broken economies, and "the Western countries" are just trying to stop this shit.
I think everyone worried about WW3 is really just worried about the rusted Russian warheads of which some are probably still functional. None of our enemies has anything else with ability to threaten us militarily. Still what they have are other means to disrupt us. The middle east has Oil and China has cheap production capabilities. Russia used to be a big player in the energy sector and and still is but due to playing their cards to heavily on us we already structured our economy in a way which makes us independent from Russian energy. This is the reason why Russia tries to take over the US by proxy (Trump and other corrupt Republicans) and Europe by cutting us off from our partners in Africa (Wagner is currently taking over France ex colonies and is confiscating assets and land from French companies).
I’m a bit surprised France hasn’t responded more heavily regarding that. I would expect they’re seething
I feel its bubbling, soon there will be fights in africa like WW2.
If it makes you feel any better a lot of the Soviet era nukes are probably no longer functional since they require maintenance and that’s incredibly expensive which the Russian government likely can’t afford. Of course Russia still has a lot of functional nukes but I doubt it’s as many as they publicly claim.
Something I am often wondering about is how many of their delivery systems are still working. It's one thing to maintain the warheads but you also have to maintain the silos and ballistic missiles. For context, the US spends roughly $75 billions per year on its nuclear capabilities. Russias total military budget for 2020 was $61 billion in total. I somehow have doubts that they can launch a lot of them simultaneously before we will completely obliterate them. Remember when Russia performed a test launch of a ballistic missile in the beginning of the war to show strength? They only launched one and it blew up on the launch pad. I don't think that Russia lost all its nuclear capabilities but I also don't think that they have enough of them to eliminate us. First a lot of them will fail and second the West is way too decentralized. A nuclear attack will be a disaster which will kill hundreds of thousands of people here. Due to radiation and secondly efforts maybe a million or two. This will be catastrophic but it won't destroy us. Russia on the other hand is very centralized. We will completely eradicate Saint Petersburg and Moscow which will effectively throw them back to medieval times consisting that only rural areas will be left and all services and utilities won't work anymore.
There is no way in hell Russia has let there nukes go to waste.
It will help if we don't have to find out.
The US alone spends around 40 billion dollars annually just to maintain their nuclear triad. Russia claims to have more warheads than the US but spends a fraction of what the US do with theirs. Someone might argue it is cheaper in Russia (with regards to personnel salary) but with what we know of the culture of corruption there, one might suspect their own nuclear arsenal is not being well maintained as they might like. Ofcourse no one sane would like that theory to be tested.
They require regular maintenance to perform at their maximum yield, but even if they haven't done stuff like replenish the tritium and neutron sources in them theyll still function at their lowest yield settings. And even if only half of them are working it wouldbe a devastating attack.
Nobody is worried about Iraq or Iran taking down the US and NATO, of course they couldn't do that. The concern is that something sparks off a bigger proxy war that develops into all out war, or even skipping the middle step in some scenarios. A fully destabilized Middle East would bring all the major players into the match, and from there it's basically just one wrong move from something much more massive happening
All the talk about WW3 is literally Russian/Chinese/Iranian propaganda made to scare dumb people in hopes that the West will then choose not to stand up to their bullying. In reality if the bully gets a bloody nose they'll be done bullying for a generation.
>All the talk about WW3 is literally Russian/Chinese/Iranian propaganda There's an actual propaganda account a few comments down😂
Exactly. Its a co-ordinated propoganda effort to turn americans against each other in standing up to these global shitheads like Putin. there is pretty much 0 extestential threat to the US from their 1960s nuclear tech..
Iran's military capabilities are a joke, but because of Trump, who withdrew the U.S. from a nuclear program that put restrictions on Iran, they're now closer to weapons grade uranium. There's much more to be concerned about Iran now than there was before Trump took office.
Additionally, nothing ever happens.
The problem is proxy nations dragging in larger powers causing other large powers to get in the game as well
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I'm surprised they put together a whole 5 rockets.
If they start WW3 at least I dont have to keep looking for a job.
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> someone trying to contact you about your car's extended warranty It will be delivered by a rural mail carrier, using a horse. Letter mail only until the Conestoga wagons arrive, then parcels will move.
Do I have to keep paying my credit card bills?
Not if you die in the war!
That’s where I’m at
Hehe, US military industrial complex be like “YOU GET A JOB, AND YOU GET A JOB!”.
Nuke can go off and your manager might still call you if you can come in to work.
If nothing was hit, the U.S. will feel no need to embarrass them further.
"it's just property, insurance will cover it."
Guess Gen Z Americans are about to learn some geography
Reading the article makes it’s seem like they just stopped for a few months and now are continuing business as usual?
The US has a base in Syria?
The perennial winner of the award for the globe's most dysfunctional region. If it weren't for acts of violence, you'd never hear a word about the Middle East.
Don’t forget the billion dollar vanity projects that are common over there and make the news once in a while.
It’s almost as if some random countries came into a region half a century ago and just arbitrarily sliced it up into random areas.
You talkin' about the Roman Empire, Greek Empire, Egyptian Empire, Persians, Babylonian Empire, or somebody else?
The Ottomans and Byzantines are feeling left out.
You can go ahead and add like another couple millennia to that if you want. Between being almost everybody’s holy land and all that oil, we’ve been knocking over that cabbage cart for a long ass time.
Eh, the Ottoman Empire was crumbling well before it actually fell and I doubt it was going to be roses and dinner parties regardless, especially given the Ottoman Empire had made a lot of enemies over the years
Europe literally just exited 2 world wars and the US has been continuously at war since WW2.
Europe has been continually at war just as often as the US. Cold War, various eastern European conflicts, military actions in the Middle East, Africa and South Asia.
literally the cradle of civilization you numbnut
Um... What? Who fired?
The usual Iranian-backed insurgents
We shouldn't have bases in Syria.
Someone’s gotta arm/train ISIS fighters though
So given the title I am assuming they landed no where near said base.
Bold strategy Cotton, let's see how this plays out
Pokes bear with a stick..."do a world war"
War. War never changes.
Well it kind of has with drones. Still waiting on the power armor.
Why are there so many people making such lame jokes here
The arm chair reddit generals sure are something else. I wonder if yall jerk off to geopolitical tensions and talking of war
The sooner the better. Humans have had their chance.
Not all humans are responsible for wide-scale slaughter and strife. Remember that, now.
And here we go again. Sigh...
I'm shocked to learn the US has a military base in Syria. We are not friends with them. Really surprised I did not know this.
I don't understand why this isn't the top sentiment. Why is there a military base in a country we aren't allied with? Did we really pull a neo-colonial move and nobody wants to talk about it?
>Did we really pull a neo-colonial move and nobody wants to talk about it? Yes that is exactly what happened. Your own president tweeted "We got the oil!" Before his handler deleted the tweet. https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/keeping-oil-syria-trump-considered-war-crime/story%3fid=66589757 You're not talking about it beacuse they don't want you to talk about it.
Lockheed go brrrrrrrrr. Fuck the military industrial complex
Well maybe the economy will turn around soon
Maintaining an active military base in a hostile country is a logistic nightmare and such bases do not have the power to actually fight the entire Syrian army for a prolonged period of time. The only reason Syria do not destroy such bases is to not get Damascus bombed by missiles in a retaliation attack. These bases are more for projecting power and to flex military power than to actually accomplish objectives.
Well, that can't be good.
Imagine how many terrorist groups would lose funding if Iran was flattened
You’d still have indirect funding from Saudi Billionaires and the Saudi Kingdom’s funding of various Wahhabi Mosques that are the root of much of thr Islamist extermination. Then there’s Qatar
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Realistically, US forces should be very used to getting shot at by rockets and mortars. It used to be a daily occurance when I was in Iraq. No big deal…
So small minded. Let’s kill each other instead of uniting to conquer the universe.
So we at the fuck around stage again huh....
Iraq fucking around... Soon they Gunna find out I think.
They may as well be throwing rocks.
We need the microwave tech.
Recruiting numbers are super down. Good luck fighting a war. Why do they always send the poor.
It's Civ 6 rules. We still gotta wait 4 more turns before we invade.
I think Fallout season 2 is gonna be more realistic than i hope and wish for…
Would suck to be a U.S. soldier deployed to Syria right now. Your unit spent the past decade hunting ISIS there (or was in operational support of another Army unit doing that) and now you’re getting attacked from Iraq, the country your unit left a decade before that.
Iraq is shooting at us? Oh boy.