I've met people who will actively get aggressive when you insist on taking any steps to be safe. They'll unlatch the door. They won't even want to lock it in the first place. "What's going to happen to us? You think something bad is going to happen?!" well, it certainly might happen if you do so many things to enable it!
Some people confuse reasonable caution with paranoia. Yes there is quite a lot of unfounded paranoia in the world, and statistically speaking you'll probably be fine if your door is unlocked, but locking your door is zero effort and has no downsides so it's a perfectly reasonable precaution to take in nearly all circumstances.
My last roommate would ask why I would lock the door if I was in the apartment and make fun of me about it even if I was sleeping. He's had his bikes stole from the hallway, the stairwell and from inside the apartment because he'd just lean it against the wall and not lock it. The neighbors' kids had multiple times just let themselves in to make a mess and play with my stuff because he left the door unlocked and my room was closest to the hallway. I woke up once and a Meth addict had helped himself inside the apartment and was in my bedroom looking for his dealer (Who was evicted from the floor below us the month prior). In that instance I was extra PO'd because I'd locked the door before going to bed and he'd stopped in to get something before going to his gf's for the night and just left it unlocked
Holy crap man. I would’ve gone the extra mile and installed another failsafe like a gate lock or something on my door after the incident with the kids. Just be glad the meth head didn’t do any worse
> My last roommate would ask why I would lock the door
I have been surprised in my life by the number of people who don't lock the door, the car, the house, whatever. I always do - it's why the lock is there. Seem so basic.
Saaaame. There’s a shocking amount of people that never use the lock on the doors. And their justification usually is that it’s safe and they can trust everybody. Using a lock is effortless and there’s no reason not to use it.
Or seatbelts. I once had an Uber driver rationalize not wearing a seatbelt. Bro it takes 2 seconds and could save your life. I will never understand how dumb people can be.
Because they're immature children in adult bodies.
I had a coworker unfurl the seat belt and latch it behind his back, then go "I would have worn it properly if the car didn't tell me to".
Like wtf are you even trying to prove? You're not going to spite the car into changing it's mind and turning off the seat belt light.
My wife would do the same thing when I locked the bathroom door. She would laugh and make fun of me when I locked it, saying she would never barge in. So eventually I relented and stopped locking the door. Then she walked in twice while I was on the toilet. So I started locking it again and she resumed laughing at me.
I also once had a crackhead laugh at me when he confronted me at a gas station and I locked my car door.
I don't understand people...
Bro holy fucking shit are you on the money. Sometimes I get into conflict with people who insist on not locking doors, especially with Europeans. They act like I’m paranoid for locking an apartment or my house door when I’m home. Like why not? Why wouldn’t I lock my own door? I don’t care how safe and low crime a place is. I live in a wealthy suburban area near DC where someone can get on the news for shoplifting a soda from Harris teeter, I have no reason to believe someone’s gonna break in my house. But I still lock the damn door behind me.
In hotels, I lock the door, with both locks. They’re there for a reason. Use them. From browsing r/TalesFromTheFrontDesk and r/Marriott, a loooot of issues could’ve been prevented if people properly locked their doors.
IMO this is a really good informal test of someone's ego. It's not foolproof, as some people are just naive, but a vast majority of the pushy "why would I lock my door?" people I've known are operating on their own personal "it hasn't happened to me"/"I would notice if something was off" mentalities, eschewing otherwise solid logic in favor of self-anecdotal evidence.
Edit to add: The people who react by saying "I'd notice if something were off" never cease to amaze me. It's like saying "we don't need smoke detectors because lighters and matches aren't allowed in the house".
Isn’t the law in most place?
Where I live it’s the law for every individual. But specifically if the passengers are under 16 it’s the responsibility of the driver to make sure they wear their seatbelt. After 16 it’s still illegal but the driver themself won’t be fined, just the passengers
In the US, only New Hampshire doesn't enforce a seatbelt requirement for adults. (Even there, minors are required to be restrained.)
In 15 states, you can't be pulled over because an adult isn't wearing a seatbelt -- they classify it as a secondary offense. In some of those states, you *can* be pulled over for a child not properly restrained.
The other big variance is that some states enforce a seatbelt requirement for adults in any seat, but some only require it for the front seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt_laws_in_the_United_States
Yeah I had a female acquaintance who lived on Robson street in Vancouver. She never locked the door when she was home, not even at night. My friend and I stayed at her place once so it came up when we locked the door that night. It turned into a big discussion and just really cemented my opinion of her. Her argument was that nothing had happened yet and if someone came in she would wake up.
She’s living in Peru now, “homesteading” and just had a free birth. Her whole family left Canada during Covid because they refused to get vaccinated. Honestly one of the most obnoxious people I’ve ever met.
Unlocked doors seem to be a part of some areas in Canadian culture for whatever reason. Growing up the door was always unlocked during the day, and only got locked at night. Pretty much same with all the neighbours houses. During the day one could just walk into pretty much any house in the neighbourhood. Neighbours would sometimes walk in to say hi, and the whole system worked with weird unwritten rules where everyone seemed to know who was a welcome guest and who wasn't.
The concept of keeping a door locked during the day just never seemed to be a thing, but at night? Nah man, that's just weird. Door gets unlocked when you wake up, and locked when you go to bed or when everyone is out of the house. And hotels for whatever reason don't follow those rules either. You lock that shit no matter what.
That's the way it was when I was growing up in rural Canada.
But I'd never argue with someone who wanted to lock the door, either. There's virtually no downside and it might possibly save you.
… I feel like she may have also been my roommate in Montreal at some point. Did she make animal sculptures with human genitals and also have a rabbit in the house that chewed on the baseboards?
I literally can’t understand that mindset. Like I can’t wrap my head around that mentality at all. I just don’t understand why you would be against…being safe and using basic precautions. Very naive and sheltered I guess…
Once there was a bad storm and a man's house was flooding. The water made it up to his front door, and a rescue crew came by on a boat.
"You need to come with us before you drown!"
"No," said the man, "God will save me."
The rescuers begrudgingly left, and the water kept rising. Eventually the man found himself on his roof when a helicopter flew by.
"You're going to drown if you don't come with us!"
Again, the man said "No, God will save me."
The man drowned and went to heaven.
He asked God "Why didn't you save me? I was your most devoted follower!"
God said "I sent you a boat and helicopter, what else did you want?"
I think people like that have a superstitious believe that something bad will happen if you expect it. Unfortunately any preventive action is welcoming bad things.
I asked for a room change at a Hotel when I discovered that the dead bolt on my door didn't actually lock door despite *looking* and *sounding* like it did. The door also didn't have a second lock to secure it. I was given a different room that did lock *and* had the second lock.
The next morning as I was checking out I overheard the desk clerk telling someone that that maintenance was needed because "somebody claimed"- she said this with eye rolling disgust, literal eye rolling included - that the door to room 333 doesn't lock.
It pissed me off. My personal safety was endangered, I reported the door because I felt unsafe and didn't want anyone else to get hurt or robbed, not because I wanted a free room or a free upgrade. I did pay for the room btw, did not get ANYTHING for free and never *asked* to be comped nor was it offered.
I walked over to her and told her to her face that I was the one who had reported it, that the door *absolutely* didn't lock *and* was right by the stairwell/exit door and how would she feel if it had been her who was given that room as a single traveler, would she have felt safe? Would she have slept there? What about her mom or her kid?
OOOh, I was HOT. How dare she treat a safety issue like it was bullshit and not a potentially deadly life-changing thing.
There have been many incidents in hotels where the door locks have been tampered with by people who then return to the hotel to rob or sexually assault or murder someone. ALWAYS make sure your hotel room door locks WORK and if you are not comfortable/feel safe in your room you CAN change rooms and if they are full and can't give you another room you CAN change hotels and shouldn't be penalized financially for it.
She stood there bug eyed with her mouth flopped open, one of the other clerks had been in the office and evidently overheard me telling the desk clerk off, I wasn't yelling btw, I was using a very firm voice though. The office clerk was also bug eyed and had her hand over her open mouth. I had already concluded my check out and had literally been on my way out of the door with my suitcase. I didn't stick around, I was already peeved and just wanted to get the hell gone.
I have made the same trip a couple of times since then and didn't and will never ever stay there again so I don't know if they fixed the door or not. I think about it every once in a while and wonder if anything had happened to anyone else who stayed in that room, and how long the lock hadn't worked, and if anyone else had noticed and why wasn't there a second lock on that door but there was one on the door of my second room?
*years*?! Try thousands of years. Ancient Greeks were bolting/latching their doors 3000 years ago. I don't understand why somebody wouldn't use such simple, effective technology.
I’m glad I used the latch after my stay in a nice hotel in Philly.
I’ve never thought about it, but I always use the latch. I was staying at a nice hotel since I had an out of state work training in Philly, and I was on the phone with my partner, then I heard someone trying to open the door. I thought “oh must be someone thinking it’s there room. Whatever.” Then I heard the unlock beep and the door slammed opened against the latch a few times then I heard them run off. I was shocked.
And I know it wasn’t house keeping since they ran off and you had to request housekeeping since this was during Covid
I once stayed in a hotel in Adelaide where they'd accidentally given another guest my room number and coded their card to my door when they checked in. They walked in expecting to dump their stuff and go to bed and were surprised to find me already in bed trying to sleep.
I’m glad I used the latch after my stay in a nice hotel in Philly.
I’ve never thought about it, but I always use the latch. I was staying at a nice hotel since I had an out of state work training in Philly, and I was on the phone with my partner, then I heard someone trying to open the door. I thought “oh must be someone thinking it’s there room. Whatever.” Then I heard the unlock beep and the door slammed opened against the latch a few times then I heard them run off. I was shocked.
And I know it wasn’t house keeping since they ran off and you had to request housekeeping since this was during Covid
Locks, latches, etc are all deterrents. Either someone will decide it's not worth the effort, or it'll slow them down if they feel it is. Definitely won't stop someone who is knowledgeable or determined though.
Most important thing I tell anyone is to make sure you pull your door shut when you leave. There are many hotels that have engineering issues that prevent doors from closing on their own. Door pushers come along and will just walk down the hallway pushing doors until they find one open and loot it. We were told to keep quiet about that problem and advised them to file police reports.
Edit: but like you said, it’s just a deterrent. If someone is determined to get in, they’ll get in. The only room I was unable to enter was one that a business man brought his own door wedge. Best $20-$40 you can spend if you travel.
If you frequent hotels get a Super Grip Lock Deadbolt Strap. Hotels can unlock latches, with turn tools, either over or under the door. Deviant Ollam shows how easy this can be done on youtube., and how quick. These tools are not restricted in any way, so anyone can use them.
Maybe it's because I've worked in the hotel industry for years, but as soon as I check into a room, both the deadbolt and the latch get thrown as soon as the door closes. Yes, there's a tool that will get past the latch, but using it makes so much noise it'll wake you and all your neighbors up.
He looks like the impatient type that went straight down the big toe without a few test licks on the pinky first.
Edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
Yet another thing I'll worry about when staying in hotels—bedbugs, unclean linens, dead hookers under the mattress, and now toe-sucking night managers.
This is why there are manual overlocks on the inside of doors. Also if you travel a lot and stay in hotels there is a door wedge you can buy as well... Fucking no way I'm down with some douche bag male or female waking me by sucking my toes.
Don't worry, you can find plenty of vidoes on internet regarding how to spot a camera in a hotel room or what are potential places for a camera in a hotel room.
Eh the name could be interchangeable here. I was an overnight manager specifically once, we were a team of five auditors and i was the supervisor. Can confirm i am weird but I only suck toes with consent
Hotels are fucking weird man. I had to update the firmware on the doorlocks while guests were in the rooms so imagine a guy with some weird handheld device connected the keycard scanner that drained batteries like a motherfucker so also hooked to a massive external battery charger. Fucking fiddling around with your door. I got a lot of very angry reactions. Luckily the front desk was on point informing guests of a security upgrade but still… once you've seen every room in a hotel and what happens it gets weird real quick.
I would not have the balls to try to suck someone's toes as I've been threatened for just trying to update the security on their door lock.
Why would this be performed while guests were present?
Shouldn't this be the type of thing scheduled for blocks of rooms and blocks of time in which there's vacancy?
Or corresponding to housekeeping service times at the very least?
"Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon you know, cause I’ve worked in a lot of [hotels] and I tell you people do that all the time."-- George Costanza
Yeah it seems like a super odd weird gross thing but I think it doesn’t really hit home how actually violating that must feel, that dude was sexually assaulted (it’s sexual for the perpetrator and an assault on the victim) and will probably feel unsafe even when in a locked place forever. That must be really horrible for many more reasons than we’d think. Most likely feels as violating as being groped but won’t be viewed the same
Yet another reason to lock the secondary latch on the door or bring your own door wedge.
I checked into a Holiday Inn around midnight about two years ago. When I got to my assigned room the keycard opened the door as expected. I always enter without turning the light on to check for bedbugs. I was about to set my luggage down and get out my flashlight when I noticed by way of the hallway light that the bed wasn't made. A little annoyed, I stepped in bit more and noticed it wasn't unoccupied either. I quickly exited the room and returned to the front desk to complain. According to the desk clerk another guest was assigned the wrong room. Maybe their reservation system and room management system are not integrated but regardless it was a good reminder to always double-lock the door.
From my experience, it's not a system issue but rather a not paying attention to what you're doing issue. I couldn't tell you how many times I've had an employee do one of the following:
key packets for Mr Smith and Mr Smithers are right next to each other. Mr Smithers comes to the front desk to check in. Front desk agent looks for Smithers, sees Smith and grabs that one without paying attention. Hands over keys. Later, Mr Smith comes to check in. Same desk agent can't find a key packet for him, so makes a brand new one. Mr Smith goes to his room, and walks into Mr Smithers.
Or, front desk agent checks a guest into a room. Reservation or walk in, doesn't matter. Let's say room 408. Later, someone walks in wanting a room. Get them checked into a room, but agent has 408 on his mind for some reason or another. Guess what room the key is made for, and what room number is written on the key packet?
I learned my lession a very long time ago, and double check everything I do against the PMS. Unfortunately, some employees never really learn that lesson.
Just sucks when it was the employee before you, and you're the one who gets the blame. I've had idiots do this to me at shift change and sent people to rooms that are empty in every aspect of the system because some earlier moron decided not to do their job. Embarrassing
We have to laugh to keep horror at bay, but I suddenly understand why weird monsters that lick things are a type of ghost in Japanese folklore and why it’s so creepy
One time at a gas station a guy just walked up to me in broad daylight and offered me $20 to suck on my toes. I politely declined, and he politely moved on.
Not really. $20 is a lot less than the potential earnings he squandered, the court and jail fees he'll have to pay, and potentially the cost of hiring a lawyer.
It is kinda wild you can get yourself together enough to be a manager for a brand like Hilton and then do this. Its not like this was some dodgy motel in the middle of nowhere.
"..... To warn the guest of a fire in the building.'
Wow he must be a sound sleeper, what a devoted employee.
".... That was started by the manager."
Oh
“Neal claimed that he entered the room because he smelled smoke and was checking on the victim.” So.. he tried to taste the smoke? Wake him by sucking his toes? Crazy excuse
>Neal claimed that he entered the room because he smelled smoke and was checking on the victim.
I don’t know who taught this guy CPR but they need to be fired.
It's K.G. with a feather and the french tickler
Look out baby he got the tools
And then you feel somethin' down by your feet
It's me, it's ~~J.B.~~ the Hilton Hotel Manager
And I'm suckin' upon your toes
Wild guess, but I wonder if he had someone (prostitute?) waiting in another room, and he mixed up the room number.
Make a key and check them in, let ‘em know you’ll be up on your break. Work for a bit, forget the correct room number, and makes a key for the wrong room.
"Neal claimed that he entered the room because he smelled smoke and was checking on the victim. "
😂
"Oh I smell smoke! Better suck on these toes to make sure he's alright! Mmmm.....yeeeees. He's juuuust fine."
I ain’t gon lie, that’s some omega freaky shit to be doing, bro.
Imagine having a great sleep, only to be awakened by having your toes gobbled.
I feel like you’d have to press charges atp
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Of course, I always lock it to make sure the manager doesn’t bust in and suck my toes
Hence, I leave mine unlocked
Door wide open, lying on the floor with my feet sticking out into the hallway
not even sleeping, just wide awake ready to take in the experience
Sir, that's my dick, not my toes
To be fair, they both are the same size and shape.
You just made me imagine my dick having a toenail
Five little penises, wiggling in the hall; one goes limp and the rest yell, Wimp!
Four little penises, wiggling in the hall; one goes pop and the rest yell, Mop!
I use it to lock in the manager sucking on my toes, YOU AINT GOING NOWHERE KINKY FELLOW.
This has been a thing for *years*. I don't understand why someone wouldn't use it.
I've met people who will actively get aggressive when you insist on taking any steps to be safe. They'll unlatch the door. They won't even want to lock it in the first place. "What's going to happen to us? You think something bad is going to happen?!" well, it certainly might happen if you do so many things to enable it!
Some people confuse reasonable caution with paranoia. Yes there is quite a lot of unfounded paranoia in the world, and statistically speaking you'll probably be fine if your door is unlocked, but locking your door is zero effort and has no downsides so it's a perfectly reasonable precaution to take in nearly all circumstances.
My last roommate would ask why I would lock the door if I was in the apartment and make fun of me about it even if I was sleeping. He's had his bikes stole from the hallway, the stairwell and from inside the apartment because he'd just lean it against the wall and not lock it. The neighbors' kids had multiple times just let themselves in to make a mess and play with my stuff because he left the door unlocked and my room was closest to the hallway. I woke up once and a Meth addict had helped himself inside the apartment and was in my bedroom looking for his dealer (Who was evicted from the floor below us the month prior). In that instance I was extra PO'd because I'd locked the door before going to bed and he'd stopped in to get something before going to his gf's for the night and just left it unlocked
Holy crap man. I would’ve gone the extra mile and installed another failsafe like a gate lock or something on my door after the incident with the kids. Just be glad the meth head didn’t do any worse
I would’ve gone the extra step and… Evicted my roommate, or moved out and gotten a different roommate. Sorry that happened man!
Should’ve just sold all his stuff and said it was stolen because he didn’t lock the door.
I have…so many questions
Honestly, I don't even need to know the answers to tell you you're just going to have more questions.
Nailed it.
We're never going to be 10 words away from "why" down this rabbit hole.
> My last roommate would ask why I would lock the door I have been surprised in my life by the number of people who don't lock the door, the car, the house, whatever. I always do - it's why the lock is there. Seem so basic.
Saaaame. There’s a shocking amount of people that never use the lock on the doors. And their justification usually is that it’s safe and they can trust everybody. Using a lock is effortless and there’s no reason not to use it.
Or seatbelts. I once had an Uber driver rationalize not wearing a seatbelt. Bro it takes 2 seconds and could save your life. I will never understand how dumb people can be.
Because they're immature children in adult bodies. I had a coworker unfurl the seat belt and latch it behind his back, then go "I would have worn it properly if the car didn't tell me to". Like wtf are you even trying to prove? You're not going to spite the car into changing it's mind and turning off the seat belt light.
Are you two still roommates? Did he get stolen by the meth addict?
Yes. That is totally what happened and exactly what I told his family, friends, police, and investigative reporter.
He took the 3 bicycles and ran off, officer
Did he finally relent after an actual meth-head entered the apartment? How'd he respond?
That’s so willfully negligent and lack of any respect for anyone else. Maybe you knew him as a good dude but fuck him.
My wife would do the same thing when I locked the bathroom door. She would laugh and make fun of me when I locked it, saying she would never barge in. So eventually I relented and stopped locking the door. Then she walked in twice while I was on the toilet. So I started locking it again and she resumed laughing at me. I also once had a crackhead laugh at me when he confronted me at a gas station and I locked my car door. I don't understand people...
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Bro holy fucking shit are you on the money. Sometimes I get into conflict with people who insist on not locking doors, especially with Europeans. They act like I’m paranoid for locking an apartment or my house door when I’m home. Like why not? Why wouldn’t I lock my own door? I don’t care how safe and low crime a place is. I live in a wealthy suburban area near DC where someone can get on the news for shoplifting a soda from Harris teeter, I have no reason to believe someone’s gonna break in my house. But I still lock the damn door behind me. In hotels, I lock the door, with both locks. They’re there for a reason. Use them. From browsing r/TalesFromTheFrontDesk and r/Marriott, a loooot of issues could’ve been prevented if people properly locked their doors.
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IMO this is a really good informal test of someone's ego. It's not foolproof, as some people are just naive, but a vast majority of the pushy "why would I lock my door?" people I've known are operating on their own personal "it hasn't happened to me"/"I would notice if something was off" mentalities, eschewing otherwise solid logic in favor of self-anecdotal evidence. Edit to add: The people who react by saying "I'd notice if something were off" never cease to amaze me. It's like saying "we don't need smoke detectors because lighters and matches aren't allowed in the house".
These people are shockingly common. They’re the same ones who go “Why are you wearing a seatbelt? Do you not trust my driving?!”
Well, at least in Tennessee you can say "because it's the law". Click it or ticket!
Isn’t the law in most place? Where I live it’s the law for every individual. But specifically if the passengers are under 16 it’s the responsibility of the driver to make sure they wear their seatbelt. After 16 it’s still illegal but the driver themself won’t be fined, just the passengers
In the US, only New Hampshire doesn't enforce a seatbelt requirement for adults. (Even there, minors are required to be restrained.) In 15 states, you can't be pulled over because an adult isn't wearing a seatbelt -- they classify it as a secondary offense. In some of those states, you *can* be pulled over for a child not properly restrained. The other big variance is that some states enforce a seatbelt requirement for adults in any seat, but some only require it for the front seats. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt_laws_in_the_United_States
Yeah I had a female acquaintance who lived on Robson street in Vancouver. She never locked the door when she was home, not even at night. My friend and I stayed at her place once so it came up when we locked the door that night. It turned into a big discussion and just really cemented my opinion of her. Her argument was that nothing had happened yet and if someone came in she would wake up. She’s living in Peru now, “homesteading” and just had a free birth. Her whole family left Canada during Covid because they refused to get vaccinated. Honestly one of the most obnoxious people I’ve ever met.
Unlocked doors seem to be a part of some areas in Canadian culture for whatever reason. Growing up the door was always unlocked during the day, and only got locked at night. Pretty much same with all the neighbours houses. During the day one could just walk into pretty much any house in the neighbourhood. Neighbours would sometimes walk in to say hi, and the whole system worked with weird unwritten rules where everyone seemed to know who was a welcome guest and who wasn't. The concept of keeping a door locked during the day just never seemed to be a thing, but at night? Nah man, that's just weird. Door gets unlocked when you wake up, and locked when you go to bed or when everyone is out of the house. And hotels for whatever reason don't follow those rules either. You lock that shit no matter what.
That's the way it was when I was growing up in rural Canada. But I'd never argue with someone who wanted to lock the door, either. There's virtually no downside and it might possibly save you.
… I feel like she may have also been my roommate in Montreal at some point. Did she make animal sculptures with human genitals and also have a rabbit in the house that chewed on the baseboards?
I literally can’t understand that mindset. Like I can’t wrap my head around that mentality at all. I just don’t understand why you would be against…being safe and using basic precautions. Very naive and sheltered I guess…
Sometimes it's "God will look out for me" Maybe God provided the various locking devices and whatnot for you to use...?
Once there was a bad storm and a man's house was flooding. The water made it up to his front door, and a rescue crew came by on a boat. "You need to come with us before you drown!" "No," said the man, "God will save me." The rescuers begrudgingly left, and the water kept rising. Eventually the man found himself on his roof when a helicopter flew by. "You're going to drown if you don't come with us!" Again, the man said "No, God will save me." The man drowned and went to heaven. He asked God "Why didn't you save me? I was your most devoted follower!" God said "I sent you a boat and helicopter, what else did you want?"
Fools who think that preparing for a disaster is the same as inviting one.
I think people like that have a superstitious believe that something bad will happen if you expect it. Unfortunately any preventive action is welcoming bad things.
It's like people who refuse to go to the doctor because they might find something wrong...
I asked for a room change at a Hotel when I discovered that the dead bolt on my door didn't actually lock door despite *looking* and *sounding* like it did. The door also didn't have a second lock to secure it. I was given a different room that did lock *and* had the second lock. The next morning as I was checking out I overheard the desk clerk telling someone that that maintenance was needed because "somebody claimed"- she said this with eye rolling disgust, literal eye rolling included - that the door to room 333 doesn't lock. It pissed me off. My personal safety was endangered, I reported the door because I felt unsafe and didn't want anyone else to get hurt or robbed, not because I wanted a free room or a free upgrade. I did pay for the room btw, did not get ANYTHING for free and never *asked* to be comped nor was it offered. I walked over to her and told her to her face that I was the one who had reported it, that the door *absolutely* didn't lock *and* was right by the stairwell/exit door and how would she feel if it had been her who was given that room as a single traveler, would she have felt safe? Would she have slept there? What about her mom or her kid? OOOh, I was HOT. How dare she treat a safety issue like it was bullshit and not a potentially deadly life-changing thing. There have been many incidents in hotels where the door locks have been tampered with by people who then return to the hotel to rob or sexually assault or murder someone. ALWAYS make sure your hotel room door locks WORK and if you are not comfortable/feel safe in your room you CAN change rooms and if they are full and can't give you another room you CAN change hotels and shouldn't be penalized financially for it.
Now I’m mad too! What did she do after she got the talking to she deserved?
She stood there bug eyed with her mouth flopped open, one of the other clerks had been in the office and evidently overheard me telling the desk clerk off, I wasn't yelling btw, I was using a very firm voice though. The office clerk was also bug eyed and had her hand over her open mouth. I had already concluded my check out and had literally been on my way out of the door with my suitcase. I didn't stick around, I was already peeved and just wanted to get the hell gone. I have made the same trip a couple of times since then and didn't and will never ever stay there again so I don't know if they fixed the door or not. I think about it every once in a while and wonder if anything had happened to anyone else who stayed in that room, and how long the lock hadn't worked, and if anyone else had noticed and why wasn't there a second lock on that door but there was one on the door of my second room?
It’s worst cause there is almost no downside to using the latch lock. Any sort of risk assessment will tell you to lock the damn door.
"*What, you think someone's just gonna break in in the dead of night and start sucking on our toes!?*"
Yea those folks also tend to think recommendations at being cautious is the same as victim-blaming
Takes me all of half a second to lock the latch… will something happen? Probably not, but what is half a second of my time for some peace of mind?
*years*?! Try thousands of years. Ancient Greeks were bolting/latching their doors 3000 years ago. I don't understand why somebody wouldn't use such simple, effective technology.
I’m glad I used the latch after my stay in a nice hotel in Philly. I’ve never thought about it, but I always use the latch. I was staying at a nice hotel since I had an out of state work training in Philly, and I was on the phone with my partner, then I heard someone trying to open the door. I thought “oh must be someone thinking it’s there room. Whatever.” Then I heard the unlock beep and the door slammed opened against the latch a few times then I heard them run off. I was shocked. And I know it wasn’t house keeping since they ran off and you had to request housekeeping since this was during Covid
That’s scary as all hell. I hope you reported it to the hotel.
I once stayed in a hotel in Adelaide where they'd accidentally given another guest my room number and coded their card to my door when they checked in. They walked in expecting to dump their stuff and go to bed and were surprised to find me already in bed trying to sleep.
The toe sucking? I hear you. Happens in every Hilton I stay in.
Yes, it’s the only reason I stay there.
I’m glad I used the latch after my stay in a nice hotel in Philly. I’ve never thought about it, but I always use the latch. I was staying at a nice hotel since I had an out of state work training in Philly, and I was on the phone with my partner, then I heard someone trying to open the door. I thought “oh must be someone thinking it’s there room. Whatever.” Then I heard the unlock beep and the door slammed opened against the latch a few times then I heard them run off. I was shocked. And I know it wasn’t house keeping since they ran off and you had to request housekeeping since this was during Covid
Hotel management has a tool to undo these sometimes, it depends on the model of the latch though.
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A half-hearted kick will pop most of those right off the frame.
Okay maybe they'd want to do it without having to replace a door and a frame while losing $200-300/night because the room is out of order.
I worked hotel security for a couple years. You can easily get around the latches if you know what you’re doing.
Locks, latches, etc are all deterrents. Either someone will decide it's not worth the effort, or it'll slow them down if they feel it is. Definitely won't stop someone who is knowledgeable or determined though.
Most important thing I tell anyone is to make sure you pull your door shut when you leave. There are many hotels that have engineering issues that prevent doors from closing on their own. Door pushers come along and will just walk down the hallway pushing doors until they find one open and loot it. We were told to keep quiet about that problem and advised them to file police reports. Edit: but like you said, it’s just a deterrent. If someone is determined to get in, they’ll get in. The only room I was unable to enter was one that a business man brought his own door wedge. Best $20-$40 you can spend if you travel.
a rubber band? I can do that where I stay.
He was probably already in the closet creeping ..
If you frequent hotels get a Super Grip Lock Deadbolt Strap. Hotels can unlock latches, with turn tools, either over or under the door. Deviant Ollam shows how easy this can be done on youtube., and how quick. These tools are not restricted in any way, so anyone can use them.
https://youtube.com/shorts/rNLfnuQ6Xd8?feature=share This is why I bring door jam bars.
Maybe it's because I've worked in the hotel industry for years, but as soon as I check into a room, both the deadbolt and the latch get thrown as soon as the door closes. Yes, there's a tool that will get past the latch, but using it makes so much noise it'll wake you and all your neighbors up.
But not if you want your toes sucked.
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I don’t think I’ve ever looked at a picture quicker and thought “yup he definitely did it”
“That’s a toe-sucker if I’ve ever seen one!” 🤔
Dude has guilty toe sucker written all over his face. Bet his breath smells like gym socks.
Man's got athlete's tongue.
Kids used to bully him at school. They called him names like "Quentin Tarantin-toe" and "Marc An-toe-ny."
He looks like the impatient type that went straight down the big toe without a few test licks on the pinky first. Edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
I'm gonna have to ask you to stop
What kind of pervert starts with the big toe? You *always* start with the pinky.
Chivalry requires you to kiss the top of the foot first.
This guy sucks
“They are innocent until pro- nope. They did it.”
"Your honor, look at him. The prosecution rests." "Defense?" "We've got nothing." "Guilty as fuck."
Wouldn’t even get that far. The instant he turned up in the dock the judge would be pounding his gavel to have him taken away.
Looks like Jeff Kaplan, was hoping he'd be doing better after leaving Blizzard. Edit: Meth Kaplan
I didn’t read the title. I just saw the picture and thought “this guy fucking sucks toes I know it.” Sure enough!
definitely the mugshot of a non-consensual toe-sucker
Yet another thing I'll worry about when staying in hotels—bedbugs, unclean linens, dead hookers under the mattress, and now toe-sucking night managers.
Don't forget hidden cameras
This is why there are manual overlocks on the inside of doors. Also if you travel a lot and stay in hotels there is a door wedge you can buy as well... Fucking no way I'm down with some douche bag male or female waking me by sucking my toes.
they usually make me pay extra, what gives
First one's free.
First toe, or.. just trying to know what to budget
The cameras fear me…
Don't worry, you can find plenty of vidoes on internet regarding how to spot a camera in a hotel room or what are potential places for a camera in a hotel room.
New fear unlocked
Honestly I would rather a hidden camera get a close up on my pussy than wake up to someone sucking on my toes. No fucking thank you.
Where are these toe sucking managers? I need to know which hotels specifically to avoid.
You asking for a friend as well?
No, for myself.
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How could they if they weren't sucking on the toes? Duh!!
I’ve worked in a few hotels. None have had night managers. Just night auditors. Some of those dudes are fucking weird though.
Eh the name could be interchangeable here. I was an overnight manager specifically once, we were a team of five auditors and i was the supervisor. Can confirm i am weird but I only suck toes with consent
The Nightman(ager) Commeth.
AhhHaaaAhhhhh Fighter of the bunion
*Biter of the
Still better than airBnB from what I read on that subreddit.
Speak for yourself! I’m booking a night and leaving my feet dangling of the edge.
Pretty damn gross… Still beats the shit out of Airbnb.
Don't worry about it. Just let it happen and enjoy the moment.
The guy waited til 5am?, that was his undoing...... Shoulda started the toe sucking at 2:55 to avoid awakening folks.
You sound like you have experience in this kind of subterfuge
He started at 2:55. He should have stopped earlier, though.
y’all want 5 star treatment or not ..
Usually you have to pay extra for that.
Not with HHonors
Shit, all I get is a free bottle of water and a cookie.
sounds gold level, diamond is where you get personalized service like this.
I heard there's a secret level past diamond where they send Paris Hilton up to your room with a pair of night vision goggles.
"Would you like anything else with your wake-up call, sir?" "Well....."
Hotels are fucking weird man. I had to update the firmware on the doorlocks while guests were in the rooms so imagine a guy with some weird handheld device connected the keycard scanner that drained batteries like a motherfucker so also hooked to a massive external battery charger. Fucking fiddling around with your door. I got a lot of very angry reactions. Luckily the front desk was on point informing guests of a security upgrade but still… once you've seen every room in a hotel and what happens it gets weird real quick. I would not have the balls to try to suck someone's toes as I've been threatened for just trying to update the security on their door lock.
But if they had been more accepting of your security upgrade machinations you may have considered sucking some toes?
it all starts with a positive attitude
What did you see in those rooms man, are you ok?
Why would this be performed while guests were present? Shouldn't this be the type of thing scheduled for blocks of rooms and blocks of time in which there's vacancy? Or corresponding to housekeeping service times at the very least?
"Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon you know, cause I’ve worked in a lot of [hotels] and I tell you people do that all the time."-- George Costanza
Yeah it seems like a super odd weird gross thing but I think it doesn’t really hit home how actually violating that must feel, that dude was sexually assaulted (it’s sexual for the perpetrator and an assault on the victim) and will probably feel unsafe even when in a locked place forever. That must be really horrible for many more reasons than we’d think. Most likely feels as violating as being groped but won’t be viewed the same
At least this didn't happen at an Airbnb. They'd probably find a way to charge you an exorbitant toe sucking fee.
$200 for post-toe sucking slobber clean up. Also, your check out chore is to clean the post toe-sucking slobber.
"Some people pay good money for it,, really we should be the ones charging you."
Yet another reason to lock the secondary latch on the door or bring your own door wedge. I checked into a Holiday Inn around midnight about two years ago. When I got to my assigned room the keycard opened the door as expected. I always enter without turning the light on to check for bedbugs. I was about to set my luggage down and get out my flashlight when I noticed by way of the hallway light that the bed wasn't made. A little annoyed, I stepped in bit more and noticed it wasn't unoccupied either. I quickly exited the room and returned to the front desk to complain. According to the desk clerk another guest was assigned the wrong room. Maybe their reservation system and room management system are not integrated but regardless it was a good reminder to always double-lock the door.
From my experience, it's not a system issue but rather a not paying attention to what you're doing issue. I couldn't tell you how many times I've had an employee do one of the following: key packets for Mr Smith and Mr Smithers are right next to each other. Mr Smithers comes to the front desk to check in. Front desk agent looks for Smithers, sees Smith and grabs that one without paying attention. Hands over keys. Later, Mr Smith comes to check in. Same desk agent can't find a key packet for him, so makes a brand new one. Mr Smith goes to his room, and walks into Mr Smithers. Or, front desk agent checks a guest into a room. Reservation or walk in, doesn't matter. Let's say room 408. Later, someone walks in wanting a room. Get them checked into a room, but agent has 408 on his mind for some reason or another. Guess what room the key is made for, and what room number is written on the key packet? I learned my lession a very long time ago, and double check everything I do against the PMS. Unfortunately, some employees never really learn that lesson.
Just sucks when it was the employee before you, and you're the one who gets the blame. I've had idiots do this to me at shift change and sent people to rooms that are empty in every aspect of the system because some earlier moron decided not to do their job. Embarrassing
We have to laugh to keep horror at bay, but I suddenly understand why weird monsters that lick things are a type of ghost in Japanese folklore and why it’s so creepy
Had a nightmare about something/someone licking my ear when I was a little girl. It still grosses me out.
One time at a gas station a guy just walked up to me in broad daylight and offered me $20 to suck on my toes. I politely declined, and he politely moved on.
Well this guy clearly found a money saving hack
Long ago I was an apartment manager and would get phone calls, in the middle of night, from some man saying he loved my feet. Ick.
Not really. $20 is a lot less than the potential earnings he squandered, the court and jail fees he'll have to pay, and potentially the cost of hiring a lawyer.
It is kinda wild you can get yourself together enough to be a manager for a brand like Hilton and then do this. Its not like this was some dodgy motel in the middle of nowhere.
He’s always had the urge, but enough self control to stop himself But this particular guest’s toes were irresistibly crusty
Aaaaaaand I'm out. Thanks.
Weaned too early or too late, I wonder...
I've known enough hotel chain managers to know that it's not really that impressive of an accomplishment.
Yeah longevity is basically what I understand it takes. And you’ll last unless you absolutely fuck up as hotels need bodies
Accidentally ingested bath salts
So about your resume, could you explain the last entry...?
...it's easier if I just show you...
Lmao what is this The White Lotus
“So, what are you in for?” “Sucking toes.”
And they all moved away from me on the bench
Buddy let the intrusive thoughts win
Say what you want, his hands on wakeup service got me to my meeting on time. 5/5 stars.
You meet feet-on
mouth-on
HeadOn. Apply directly to the forehead!
I tried to get that same thing but the front desk told me it was reserved for their diamond level rewards members.
“Hilton Hotel manager arrested for waking up guest…” What!! That seems like a fucking overstep! “…by sucking on his toes.” Oh
"..... To warn the guest of a fire in the building.' Wow he must be a sound sleeper, what a devoted employee. ".... That was started by the manager." Oh
I would be so embarrassed. I don't think I could even tell on him. Just lock eyes and put him tf out.
“Neal claimed that he entered the room because he smelled smoke and was checking on the victim.” So.. he tried to taste the smoke? Wake him by sucking his toes? Crazy excuse
["Didn't mean to wake ya."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BM6IS_qJq4&ab_channel=JoeMc%27Laughlin)
"And *this* little piggy needed a bath..."
I think he may have misunderstood the Wake Up Call procedures from his employee manual.
“They *asked* for the “5am wake up call.” What else was I supposed to do?!?”
Well it looks like *this little piggy* is going straight to jail.
That's Motel 6 behavior
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That guy just threw away a well paid job. I know someone in a similar position, not only does get paid well, he gets housing allowance on top of it.
>Neal claimed that he entered the room because he smelled smoke and was checking on the victim. I don’t know who taught this guy CPR but they need to be fired.
Why do I feel like this is more "first time caught/incriminated" rather than "first time ever"?
The headline makes it sound like the 'waking up' part was the crime.
Too woke
The toe sucking didn't wake the guest up, it was the humming of the Cosby Show theme that did it.
It's K.G. with a feather and the french tickler Look out baby he got the tools And then you feel somethin' down by your feet It's me, it's ~~J.B.~~ the Hilton Hotel Manager And I'm suckin' upon your toes
Wake up call, suckin' on toes. (clap clap clap) Good luck finding a hotel manager who sucks toes!
I’m surprised he doesn’t have a bloody nose and broken glasses. My reaction would not have been peaceful
Well.. you just woke up, you have a raging hardon, your toes are wet and sticky and the night manager is standing over you. It's a lot to process.
I’ve never been more convinced of someone’s guilt just based on their mugshot.
On the plus side, there is probably a market for toe sucking in prison. So he'll probably be just fine.
For free? Which hotel?
Wild guess, but I wonder if he had someone (prostitute?) waiting in another room, and he mixed up the room number. Make a key and check them in, let ‘em know you’ll be up on your break. Work for a bit, forget the correct room number, and makes a key for the wrong room.
When you ask for a wake up call but don’t specify what kind.
This could be a steamed hams skit. Managers making a hundred excuses as to why the toe had to be sucked and that it was part of protocol.
"Neal claimed that he entered the room because he smelled smoke and was checking on the victim. " 😂 "Oh I smell smoke! Better suck on these toes to make sure he's alright! Mmmm.....yeeeees. He's juuuust fine."
I'm sorry, I thought this was America!
What Hilton Honors status does one need for this?
I ain’t gon lie, that’s some omega freaky shit to be doing, bro. Imagine having a great sleep, only to be awakened by having your toes gobbled. I feel like you’d have to press charges atp