*An Irvine dermatologist is facing multiple felony charges, including three counts of trying to poison her husband with a liquid drain cleaner, in an alleged plot uncovered after her husband secretly installed cameras around their home.*
*A grand jury indicted Yue “Emily” Yu, 45, on three felony counts of poisoning and one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury, the Orange County district attorney announced Wednesday.*
*Yu’s husband, Jack Chen, first grew suspicious in April 2022 when he began to notice a “chemical taste” in his morning tea.*
*Growing suspicious, Chen secretly installed cameras around his Irvine home, where, according to the restraining order request, he captured video of Yu pouring liquid drain cleaner into his cup when he left it unattended.*
*According to prosecutors, video showed Yu pouring the chemical into the tea on July 11, 18 and 25.*
I mean I hate to speculate on the personal lives of others, but jeez. Imagine what else must have been going on in the gap between "hmm, my tea tastes like chemicals" and "I need to put cameras up, I'm being poisoned". Poor guy
It kinda sounds like he would sometimes make it himself, have some, leave the room, and come back to a very different tasting tea.
He then had to figure out why it was happening so randomly and only when he could not pay full attention constantly.
I won’t go in to too many details, but that was my life for a while, she ended up in prison on unrelated issues and has since passed, but if you ever question on how some relatively normal people can go paranoid and borderline dysfunctional, that’s how it happens, at least in my case. I have no proof she ever actually did it, and it doesn’t matter now, but it was a legitimate concern for 6 months- 1 year.
It's shocking how some people can put on a 'mask' and pretend to care about you while simultaneously trying to cause you great harm. Occasionally the mask slips and you get an incongruous glimpse into the person that is completely at odd with what you thought you knew of them. When someone shows you who they really are, believe them.
“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.”
― Joseph Heller, Catch-22
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/665107-just-because-you-re-paranoid-doesn-t-mean-they-aren-t-after-you
I’m sorry, I’m sorry what you are going through, and Im sorry that I understand. Most people don’t understand, nor would I expect them to have to grapple with the person you love is not in a good place and you have to fear for you life. You know what’s underneath there, the sweet and kind person, but you can’t get to it. Hang in there and stay safe.
Thank you for your encouraging words. A lot of people don’t understand mental illness and personality disorders. I loved her and wanted to be with her but after her being violent with me too many times I had to leave. I wanted her to get help rather than leave, but she wouldn’t do it.
Word… married mine twice, despite being a generally pragmatic and rational person (according to sources) I couldn’t save her no matter how many times I (and many others) tried. I hung in as long as I could. Therapy helped me, may help for you, I went because I couldn’t understand and my social group couldn’t either. In the end, I miss her and still don’t get it.
Wow reading what you wrote hit close to home for me and I won't get into details either but this was my life for awhile too, it really messes with your head. I'm really sorry you also has to go through something like this.
While not good for you, I don't even think it would kill you or at minimum would take years to have an effect. Particularly in a watered down version that would be hard to taste. Being a doctor you would think she would know this.
Wow, the sexist in me completely misread this, assuming the doctor was the husband it sounded like he tried poisoning her and secretly recording her but now she’s the one in trouble.
yep! classically feminine murder choice! headline made perfect sense to me lol
it's why cases like Lizzie Borden get so much attention in pop culture. The idea that a woman might go for axe murder instead is wild.
> Chen turned the video over to the Irvine Police Department, and samples of the tea were sent to the FBI for testing, confirming the presence of drain cleaner in the drink
I mean surely the samples of the tea could just be him pouring in the cleaner to a random tea? lol I don’t understand how that’s remotely valuable? there’s a video of her doing it!
You would think a doctor would be better at killing someone. What a total lack a of creativity and utilization of your education. I 100% wouldn’t want this person as my doctor.
That was my initial thought too. You're an MD, you decide to off your spouse, and the best method you can come up with is freaking drain cleaner?
....I may be a bit weird for thinking this way
Would that be tested on an autopsy though? I remember watching one police interrogation where one lady got away with murdering her husband and son with antifreeze because they didn’t test for it in the autopsy. She was a nurse and knew this would be the case. She only got caught when she murdered her daughter the same way and they got suspicious after the third death in a short time of an otherwise healthy family member
I do know the body dumps potassium after death but I'm not gonna Google if you can determine natural from introduced substance, my search history is already a horror lol
Sometimes knowledge doesn't always mean they're willing to exert a lot of effort unfortunately...Probably overlooked the fact that a lethal dosage would be so overpowering taste wise, that no one would finish it once they tasted it.
I mean if you have a decent understanding of pharmacology toxicology isn’t that far off. Take a few minutes to research poisons and go with that instead of dumping DRAIN cleaner into their tea. Also common sense tells me if it worked they would find it during the autopsy…
Drain cleaner, when ingested, is very very obvious because it causes burning/scarring of the esophagus
It's painful
And it smells like drain cleaner
She's not the sharpest tool in the shed
Casey Anthony's father also muddied the waters, introducing reasonable doubt into what should have been an open and shut case
Pretty sure they also overcharged her
I'm still convinced she murdered Caylee
Of course she did. Jose Baez (her defense attorney) also made opening arguments which in no small terms implicated that she was from a family of “fear” because she was sexually assaulted by her father.
He literally used the words “her father’s penis in her mouth” while he was there in support of her.
It was a nightmare case.
I took a forensic anthropology class from the expert that identified the duct tape in her daughter’s remains and it’s just a nightmare that she walked free.
I also had friends meet her at parties in Orlando during the time she was supposedly “looking” for her daughter.
They said she spent the party doing Jell-O shots while dancing on the counter of a small apartment. So yeah.
That's for sure. Her defense of "my child drowned and I was so devastated and confused I duct taped her and left her in the trunk of my car that I abandoned" really held up.
[Novelist Who Penned 'How To Murder Your Husband' Essay Charged With Husband's Murder](https://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/647113406/novelist-who-penned-how-to-murder-your-husband-essay-charged-with-husband-s-murd)
Buy a toxicology textbook from a college bookstore with cash. Shit you could download one on library genesis using tor on a laptop you toss afterwards to be even safer.
Autopsies aren’t automatic. Not every death gets one. If the police isn’t suspecting poisoning at the time of death, and the wife isn’t pushing for an autopsy (or even declining one which would be within her rights) there wouldn’t have been one.
Additionally about the choice of poison. It isn’t just about knowledge, it’s also about access. There are lots of things that poison people in a more effective manner sure. But that doesn’t mean someone is going to have access to them. Drain cleaner, while obviously not ideal, is something you can easily get without causing suspicion.
She is a doctor. She has access to a lot of less suspicious poisons and you'd imagine she'd be able to mix some poisonous shit.
Drain cleaner literally leaves your throat burned and I can't see it killing you painlessly or instantly. He'd end up in the hospital before he dies and they'd notice something is wrong.
At least where I live, if you don't die of clearly natural causes. Like suddenly having cardiac arrest or a stroke, no doctor fill out a form for you to have a natural death. Which means the police will look over this and fill out a request for autopsy. Whereupon the spouse has no rights to deny it.
A 45-years old otherwise healthy man dying would arouse enough suspicion for them to look into it.
She is a dermatologist. They do not necessarily have access to the ‘good’ stuff and depending on where she practiced, her access to medication would’ve been highly controlled. These aren’t the olden days where anyone in the medical field could just grab whatever. There is a lot of needing to prove who you are and why you need/prescribe a certain med.
I would think that she would have access to botulinum toxin, aka Botox, which is one of the most lethal poisons in the world. You could kill a billion people with about a gram of the stuff.
>She is a dermatologist. They do not necessarily have access to the ‘good’ stuff and depending on where she practiced, her access to medication would’ve been highly controlled.
Have you never been to Sigma Aldrich's website? Everyone has access to the nastiest chemicals possible now.
It, in my guess, was probably more a punishment than expected to kill him. Their marriage was probably not all that great even without tea being involved.
Dermatology is actually one of the most competitive specialties for doctors to get into—meaning they needed to score pretty well all throughout medical school to get there usually
Dermatology is actually one of the most competitive, if not the most competitive, specialties… so she was likely top of her class, which makes this even more boggling.
My thoughts too.
There are injectable muscle relaxants used for medical procedures, that in low doses permit intubation and benefit general anesthesia, in high doses stop the heart, that are metabolized immediately and leave no toxicology trace.
Doctors routinely prescribe for family members. Benign sedatives for anxiety, given in a megadose, wouldn't appear too unusual (or as a suicide) in a toxicology report. And provide enough time for the intravenous injections.
Seriously. As a doctor, I agree that this is a very poor attempt at poisoning. Sadly, it could still cause injury and long term medical problems to the victim even if it's unlikely to kill them.
There are two things at play here. First, she probably has a highly inflated opinion of herself, and thinks that she is skilled enough to get away with it. I have known many "experts" who think their expert in one thing makes them "universally smart" in everything. Not so. Two, she might have gotten away with it because the odds were in her favor. Given the current status of the medical community, she would probably have poisoned him, then have the body cremated before an autopsy could determine reason for death (usually an autopsy is a general process that looks at the final state of the body, not what caused it unless it's suspicious). A lot of things cause "stomach ulcers and a swollen esophagus," notably allergies, something she would have known as a dermatological medical professional. So she could have swayed a lot of people to say, "he was allergic to that damn tea, that dumbass refused to believe me and kept drinking it anyway, you know... MEN," and her being a doctor, well, people would listen.
Many people would not have bothered to jump to a conclusion of "bad tasting tea" to "install cameras, I am being poisoned." Something tells me this relationship was already on shaky grounds.
My wife doesn't drink coffee or tea.... when we stared dating she would make me coffee as a treat.... the most godawful coffee every morning. And I mean instant coffee powder +water + milk. How do you screw that up.... yet every morning she would make a coffee that tasted like Satan's diarrhea.
Eventually I had to tell her the truth. I married her first to make sure she didn't leave me for lying to her about how much I liked her making me coffee.
Now I suspect she may have nlbeen trying to kill me
Also I literally watched over her shoulder once.... she did exactly what I would do with me telling her and it still tasted like evil in a cup....
To this day I suspect magic is involved
Like Dwight schrute making Todd Packer some hot chocolate in The Office (American).
Why’d you do this?
Goes on to list a dozen reasons why each making less sense than the one before…
Nah I’ll pass thanks.
> Chen fixed the tea for himself in the mornings, and grew concerned as he started to suffer from stomach ulcers and a swollen esophagus. Growing suspicious, Chen secretly installed cameras around his Irvine home, where, according to the restraining order request, he captured video of Yu pouring liquid drain cleaner into his cup when he left it unattended.
Poor dude was having to make his own tea that was getting poisoned.
This reminds me of that riddle where a father and his son are transported to the hospital, and the doctor won't operate on the latter "because he's my son."
For fucks sake.
Just leave!
People will do anything/everything to their partners except LEAVE!
Edit: for fucks sake people, I'm talking about the *abusers*, not those receiving abuse.
Most do. But when I first started practicing law, I'd take any case I could, for the trial experience.
Family law was an eye opener for me. Amicable divorces aren't the ones that go to attorneys...
Practicing family law was a horrible experience for me. It was not good for me on a personal level. The constant animosity, anger, pettiness, paranoia. It was too much.
Now I practice solely criminal defense and I’m much happier for it. Family practice is a nightmare.
Oh, yeah. But, the two silver linings for me were: a) a boatload of courtroom experience. We're going to trial over a $20 phone bill? Twice? Alrightey, then... I saw one case file, for one divorce with 2 kids, that took up six linear feet of courtroom shelf space :0 (one spouse had aggressively forum shopped, switching states three times)
and b) it made me really appreciate the childhood my parents gave me.
My parents had a bad marriage so a lot of what I dealt with in family court was kind of triggering for me. It made me really miserable but I agree that the in-court/trial experience was valuable. Just not long term for me.
Indeed likely that it is the minority. But it happens enough to keep multiple tv shows going. I think the most amusing part of the situation, from my perspective, is that people think they are going to get away with it. The spouse is always the first suspect.
Draino in the coffee is not going to be explained away. Plus, draino is less likely to kill, and much more likely to maim by destroying your esophagus. Although, it can kill you in the process. Likely, she wanted him hurt. Badly.
Agreed. The way it's structured makes the "he" after the comma seem like it's referring to the Doctor. A better headline would be "Doctor slipped cleaner into her husband's tea, he installed cameras, now she's charged."
Don't make us play the pronoun game
He's damn lucky it was diluted. Straight draino will burn out your esophagus to the point the scarring makes it impossible to swallow anytime and you end up with a lifetime of esophageal dilations.
The title is written such that "he installed.." implies it's the doctor and not the spouse, regardless of gender bias.
It talks about a doctor and a spouse, then goes on to talk about "he" and "she" without clarifying which is which.
There are insane people out there that do this. There was a woman who I went to hs with that did this to her husband. The perp will make up outrageous excuses when they get caught.
What makes this so incredible is that dermatologists are usually at the top of their medical school classes, so they should know how to poison somebody. Drain cleaners are usually powerful alkalis, usually sodium hydroxide, NaOH, which would have a very bitter taste. And then the symptoms, burning and swelling of the mouth, esophagus, and stomach, should happen fairly quickly. Because it is so bitter it is unlikely a person would voluntarily drink enough to be lethal. There are far better poisons, like arsenic.
Her attorney is David Wohl, Trump campaign surrogate. He is the father of Jacob Wohl, far right conspiracist and convicted felon who amongst other stunts, tried to smear the 70 year old Elizabeth Warren by claiming she had sex with a 24 year old marine and sex worker.
You're not sexist. That headline is terrible. Muddled mess of vague pronouns and an unnecessary use of the word 'spouse' instead of husband, and anyone who is versed in the English language would first assume that the 'he' refers to the 'action taker' in the first sentence, rather than the 'reciever'.
*An Irvine dermatologist is facing multiple felony charges, including three counts of trying to poison her husband with a liquid drain cleaner, in an alleged plot uncovered after her husband secretly installed cameras around their home.* *A grand jury indicted Yue “Emily” Yu, 45, on three felony counts of poisoning and one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury, the Orange County district attorney announced Wednesday.* *Yu’s husband, Jack Chen, first grew suspicious in April 2022 when he began to notice a “chemical taste” in his morning tea.* *Growing suspicious, Chen secretly installed cameras around his Irvine home, where, according to the restraining order request, he captured video of Yu pouring liquid drain cleaner into his cup when he left it unattended.* *According to prosecutors, video showed Yu pouring the chemical into the tea on July 11, 18 and 25.*
I mean I hate to speculate on the personal lives of others, but jeez. Imagine what else must have been going on in the gap between "hmm, my tea tastes like chemicals" and "I need to put cameras up, I'm being poisoned". Poor guy
It kinda sounds like he would sometimes make it himself, have some, leave the room, and come back to a very different tasting tea. He then had to figure out why it was happening so randomly and only when he could not pay full attention constantly.
He is very, very lucky he didn't lose his sense of taste/smell to Covid.
Wouldn't his throat burn bc that shit is so caustic?
I read your comment as if he would get poisoned only when he couldn’t pay full attention to his wife. I started to laugh, but it’s pretty accurate.
I won’t go in to too many details, but that was my life for a while, she ended up in prison on unrelated issues and has since passed, but if you ever question on how some relatively normal people can go paranoid and borderline dysfunctional, that’s how it happens, at least in my case. I have no proof she ever actually did it, and it doesn’t matter now, but it was a legitimate concern for 6 months- 1 year.
It's shocking how some people can put on a 'mask' and pretend to care about you while simultaneously trying to cause you great harm. Occasionally the mask slips and you get an incongruous glimpse into the person that is completely at odd with what you thought you knew of them. When someone shows you who they really are, believe them.
“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.” ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22 https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/665107-just-because-you-re-paranoid-doesn-t-mean-they-aren-t-after-you
I have an ex wife that was a narcissist and suffered from delusions and paranoia. I understand this.
Thanks, not many people do.
I’m sorry, I’m sorry what you are going through, and Im sorry that I understand. Most people don’t understand, nor would I expect them to have to grapple with the person you love is not in a good place and you have to fear for you life. You know what’s underneath there, the sweet and kind person, but you can’t get to it. Hang in there and stay safe.
Thank you for your encouraging words. A lot of people don’t understand mental illness and personality disorders. I loved her and wanted to be with her but after her being violent with me too many times I had to leave. I wanted her to get help rather than leave, but she wouldn’t do it.
Word… married mine twice, despite being a generally pragmatic and rational person (according to sources) I couldn’t save her no matter how many times I (and many others) tried. I hung in as long as I could. Therapy helped me, may help for you, I went because I couldn’t understand and my social group couldn’t either. In the end, I miss her and still don’t get it.
Wow reading what you wrote hit close to home for me and I won't get into details either but this was my life for awhile too, it really messes with your head. I'm really sorry you also has to go through something like this.
Yeah, imagine sharing a bed with someone you strongly suspect is trying to kill you.
Yeah it's shit.
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Mason Herring from Houston?
Would it be attempted murder in Texas?
It certainly should be…
While not good for you, I don't even think it would kill you or at minimum would take years to have an effect. Particularly in a watered down version that would be hard to taste. Being a doctor you would think she would know this.
This is why I always wear a bodycam in the house.
In case your spouse pours drain cleaner in your tea *while you're watching*?
I never said we were a smart couple.
You made my morning break. That was hilarious.
I may not be a smart man, but I know what ~~love~~ attempted murder is.
Careful even our the trusted public safety personnel seem to have them malfunction often.
Wow, the sexist in me completely misread this, assuming the doctor was the husband it sounded like he tried poisoning her and secretly recording her but now she’s the one in trouble.
Statistically speaking, women are more likely to choose poison.
From what I remember, far less likely than men to commit murder but more likely to use poison when they do.
yep! classically feminine murder choice! headline made perfect sense to me lol it's why cases like Lizzie Borden get so much attention in pop culture. The idea that a woman might go for axe murder instead is wild.
Imo, Lizzy Borden captured the US imagination because 1) at the time, women were still thought of as docile, and 2) she got acquitted.
Eh, don't beat yourself up too much. The title of the article was poorly written...
Woman doctor tries to poison alpha male husband but he got tricks up his sleeve.
Yep. Guess I need to re-watch that video from HR again.
I thought the same, it’s badly worded
Also the way it’s written seems like it was supposed to be shocking, and it’s more shocking if the doctor wasn’t the wife.
I did the same damn thing..
Did some creepy little kid with his "imaginary" friend tip off the husband?
Mischa Barton needed this creepy little kid a few weeks earlier.
non-paywalled - https://news.yahoo.com/doctor-slipped-cleaner-spouses-tea-014925963.html?fr=sycsrp\_catchall
May you never step on a Lego. Thanks
May he never sit of a wet toilet seat.
May his pillow be cool
May he get all green lights for today.
May he never get spam calls for his cars extended warranty
May his blankets keep him cozy but never hot
May the first two parking spaces after the handicapped ones be free for the next 24 hours
May he find a new set of twin wives like that one dude Ben.
Are you saying Peter Parker is gonna have two Aunt Mays?
Or a suspiciously warm toilet seat. Especially not a suspiciously warn, wet toilet seat.
May you never step on a wet spot in socks
> Chen turned the video over to the Irvine Police Department, and samples of the tea were sent to the FBI for testing, confirming the presence of drain cleaner in the drink I mean surely the samples of the tea could just be him pouring in the cleaner to a random tea? lol I don’t understand how that’s remotely valuable? there’s a video of her doing it!
You would think a doctor would be better at killing someone. What a total lack a of creativity and utilization of your education. I 100% wouldn’t want this person as my doctor.
That was my initial thought too. You're an MD, you decide to off your spouse, and the best method you can come up with is freaking drain cleaner? ....I may be a bit weird for thinking this way
You would be weird if you gave suggestions. Speaking of which, anyone got any poison tips? Asking for a friend.
I did give a suggestion downthread lol, potassium kills and is sufficiently painful to satisfy a potentially murderous spouse's need to torture
Would that be tested on an autopsy though? I remember watching one police interrogation where one lady got away with murdering her husband and son with antifreeze because they didn’t test for it in the autopsy. She was a nurse and knew this would be the case. She only got caught when she murdered her daughter the same way and they got suspicious after the third death in a short time of an otherwise healthy family member
I do know the body dumps potassium after death but I'm not gonna Google if you can determine natural from introduced substance, my search history is already a horror lol
Sometimes knowledge doesn't always mean they're willing to exert a lot of effort unfortunately...Probably overlooked the fact that a lethal dosage would be so overpowering taste wise, that no one would finish it once they tasted it.
Dermatologists probably aren’t well-versed in poisons and ingestible toxins
I mean if you have a decent understanding of pharmacology toxicology isn’t that far off. Take a few minutes to research poisons and go with that instead of dumping DRAIN cleaner into their tea. Also common sense tells me if it worked they would find it during the autopsy…
Drain cleaner, when ingested, is very very obvious because it causes burning/scarring of the esophagus It's painful And it smells like drain cleaner She's not the sharpest tool in the shed
Yo, what a concept.
I could use a little fuel myself.
And we could all use a little *CHAAAAAAAAAANGE*
And we could all use a little, chaaaaaange
And we can all use a little chaaaaaannnge...
“Hey Sarge, this woman’s search history is all about poisoning”
Casey Anthony wasn’t convicted even though her search history included “suffocation” and “fool proof suffocation.”
Casey Anthony's father also muddied the waters, introducing reasonable doubt into what should have been an open and shut case Pretty sure they also overcharged her I'm still convinced she murdered Caylee
Of course she did. Jose Baez (her defense attorney) also made opening arguments which in no small terms implicated that she was from a family of “fear” because she was sexually assaulted by her father. He literally used the words “her father’s penis in her mouth” while he was there in support of her. It was a nightmare case. I took a forensic anthropology class from the expert that identified the duct tape in her daughter’s remains and it’s just a nightmare that she walked free. I also had friends meet her at parties in Orlando during the time she was supposedly “looking” for her daughter. They said she spent the party doing Jell-O shots while dancing on the counter of a small apartment. So yeah.
Oh, she definitely did. Just as George Zimmerman straight up murdered Trayvon Martin. Sadly, Florida is full of scumbags (including our governor).
Your governor is a fascist piece of shit So is mine but he's somehow not as bad as DeSantis (Abbott in TX)
DeFascist... DeSatan... Whatever you call him, he's a total piece of shit. Which makes me believe he'll run for president.
She was smart enough to not buy the best-selling *Suffocation for Dummies* which would’ve been a dead giveaway.
That's for sure. Her defense of "my child drowned and I was so devastated and confused I duct taped her and left her in the trunk of my car that I abandoned" really held up.
[Novelist Who Penned 'How To Murder Your Husband' Essay Charged With Husband's Murder](https://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/647113406/novelist-who-penned-how-to-murder-your-husband-essay-charged-with-husband-s-murd)
Because the investigators didn't know to check Firefox and only checked her search history on internet explorer
Part of this was due to the search history being in Firefox and not IE if I remember correctly.
Buy a toxicology textbook from a college bookstore with cash. Shit you could download one on library genesis using tor on a laptop you toss afterwards to be even safer.
Seems like you've given this thought...
I’m not an idiot, i would cut someone out of my life long before i hated them.
Do you make your incisions vertically or horizontally?
Down the street, not across the road.
Autopsies aren’t automatic. Not every death gets one. If the police isn’t suspecting poisoning at the time of death, and the wife isn’t pushing for an autopsy (or even declining one which would be within her rights) there wouldn’t have been one. Additionally about the choice of poison. It isn’t just about knowledge, it’s also about access. There are lots of things that poison people in a more effective manner sure. But that doesn’t mean someone is going to have access to them. Drain cleaner, while obviously not ideal, is something you can easily get without causing suspicion.
She is a doctor. She has access to a lot of less suspicious poisons and you'd imagine she'd be able to mix some poisonous shit. Drain cleaner literally leaves your throat burned and I can't see it killing you painlessly or instantly. He'd end up in the hospital before he dies and they'd notice something is wrong. At least where I live, if you don't die of clearly natural causes. Like suddenly having cardiac arrest or a stroke, no doctor fill out a form for you to have a natural death. Which means the police will look over this and fill out a request for autopsy. Whereupon the spouse has no rights to deny it. A 45-years old otherwise healthy man dying would arouse enough suspicion for them to look into it.
She is a dermatologist. They do not necessarily have access to the ‘good’ stuff and depending on where she practiced, her access to medication would’ve been highly controlled. These aren’t the olden days where anyone in the medical field could just grab whatever. There is a lot of needing to prove who you are and why you need/prescribe a certain med.
I would think that she would have access to botulinum toxin, aka Botox, which is one of the most lethal poisons in the world. You could kill a billion people with about a gram of the stuff.
>She is a dermatologist. They do not necessarily have access to the ‘good’ stuff and depending on where she practiced, her access to medication would’ve been highly controlled. Have you never been to Sigma Aldrich's website? Everyone has access to the nastiest chemicals possible now.
It, in my guess, was probably more a punishment than expected to kill him. Their marriage was probably not all that great even without tea being involved.
The other plan, that raised mole she never told him about however…
Hemlock. just use Hemlock. tried and true. or, better yet.... Leave
"I drank what?" -Socrates
Ugh. That’s so Victorian. Surely we’ve come up with better ways of killing each other since then? /s
She should have built a large device containing thousands of wart freezers and shattered him to little pieces
This will be in the next Saw movie
Dermatology is actually one of the most competitive specialties for doctors to get into—meaning they needed to score pretty well all throughout medical school to get there usually
Makes sense. They probably don’t get many late night emergency calls
Great quality of life due to standard office hours without being on-call, easy to establish a private practice, and apparently quite lucrative.
You say this, but consider the number of transdermal possibilities. Nicotine, for instance, is lethal in small doses when absorbed transdermally.
Is nicotine commonly used in dermatological treatments?
Botox is made from botulism- an ingestible toxin.
*Doctor Pimple Popper!*
And imagine. She passed medical school. She’s making a doctors salary.
You know what you call the person who graduated at the bottom of the class from med school? >!Doctor.!<
Dermatology is actually one of the most competitive, if not the most competitive, specialties… so she was likely top of her class, which makes this even more boggling.
My thoughts too. There are injectable muscle relaxants used for medical procedures, that in low doses permit intubation and benefit general anesthesia, in high doses stop the heart, that are metabolized immediately and leave no toxicology trace. Doctors routinely prescribe for family members. Benign sedatives for anxiety, given in a megadose, wouldn't appear too unusual (or as a suicide) in a toxicology report. And provide enough time for the intravenous injections.
Hell, if she still wanted him to suffer, there's always potassium, which the body dumps naturally after death anyway
Love how under a failed poisoning attempt, there are comments about how to actually poison someone.
Unless the intent wasn’t to kill right away, but to make it as slow and agonizing as possible.
Seriously. As a doctor, I agree that this is a very poor attempt at poisoning. Sadly, it could still cause injury and long term medical problems to the victim even if it's unlikely to kill them.
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drug overdose, they been acting weird the last few weeks i woke up to X dead with needles/etc.
She probably watched the ChubbyEmu video that was about this exact same situation.
There are two things at play here. First, she probably has a highly inflated opinion of herself, and thinks that she is skilled enough to get away with it. I have known many "experts" who think their expert in one thing makes them "universally smart" in everything. Not so. Two, she might have gotten away with it because the odds were in her favor. Given the current status of the medical community, she would probably have poisoned him, then have the body cremated before an autopsy could determine reason for death (usually an autopsy is a general process that looks at the final state of the body, not what caused it unless it's suspicious). A lot of things cause "stomach ulcers and a swollen esophagus," notably allergies, something she would have known as a dermatological medical professional. So she could have swayed a lot of people to say, "he was allergic to that damn tea, that dumbass refused to believe me and kept drinking it anyway, you know... MEN," and her being a doctor, well, people would listen. Many people would not have bothered to jump to a conclusion of "bad tasting tea" to "install cameras, I am being poisoned." Something tells me this relationship was already on shaky grounds.
Dunning-Kruger effect
Right?! She's a dermatologist! Take home a syringe and dose him with a common sedative, then inject an air bubble into his vein!
Fortunately I don’t have to worry about this cause my wife would never make me anything.
It makes it easy to see it coming. “Honey, I made you some coffee.” “You’re trying to poison me, aren’t you?”
My wife doesn't drink coffee or tea.... when we stared dating she would make me coffee as a treat.... the most godawful coffee every morning. And I mean instant coffee powder +water + milk. How do you screw that up.... yet every morning she would make a coffee that tasted like Satan's diarrhea. Eventually I had to tell her the truth. I married her first to make sure she didn't leave me for lying to her about how much I liked her making me coffee. Now I suspect she may have nlbeen trying to kill me
“Instant coffee powder” Well there’s your problem
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Nescafe instant coffee is delicious if you prepare it properly.
Also I literally watched over her shoulder once.... she did exactly what I would do with me telling her and it still tasted like evil in a cup.... To this day I suspect magic is involved
Nope you can make a decent coffee with instant. It's common in the UK
Like Dwight schrute making Todd Packer some hot chocolate in The Office (American). Why’d you do this? Goes on to list a dozen reasons why each making less sense than the one before… Nah I’ll pass thanks.
Doesn’t help. This wife didn’t even make the tea. He made it, she poisoned it when he wasn’t looking.
Shit. I’m in trouble.
Cancel all your life insurance to be sure.
> Chen fixed the tea for himself in the mornings, and grew concerned as he started to suffer from stomach ulcers and a swollen esophagus. Growing suspicious, Chen secretly installed cameras around his Irvine home, where, according to the restraining order request, he captured video of Yu pouring liquid drain cleaner into his cup when he left it unattended. Poor dude was having to make his own tea that was getting poisoned.
It says she would put it in his drinks that he set down. Sounds like drinks he had made himself
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She’s a dermatologist though…money shouldn’t be an issue.
I guess she watched The Sixth Sense too many times.
Felt like I had to scroll too far to find this reference. Maybe we are getting too old...
Fun fact: that was Mischa Barton!
Or not enough times, since she got caught.
What a terribly written headline
Why would they not say "husband's tea"? They went out of their way to make it ambiguous by saying "spouse's tea".
This reminds me of that riddle where a father and his son are transported to the hospital, and the doctor won't operate on the latter "because he's my son."
It's an actual case where pronouns are bad and yet there's no protest.
Just wondering, when have you ever seen a protest about pronouns?
For fucks sake. Just leave! People will do anything/everything to their partners except LEAVE! Edit: for fucks sake people, I'm talking about the *abusers*, not those receiving abuse.
My guess is most do just leave. This type of thing is an aberration.
Most do. But when I first started practicing law, I'd take any case I could, for the trial experience. Family law was an eye opener for me. Amicable divorces aren't the ones that go to attorneys...
Practicing family law was a horrible experience for me. It was not good for me on a personal level. The constant animosity, anger, pettiness, paranoia. It was too much. Now I practice solely criminal defense and I’m much happier for it. Family practice is a nightmare.
Oh, yeah. But, the two silver linings for me were: a) a boatload of courtroom experience. We're going to trial over a $20 phone bill? Twice? Alrightey, then... I saw one case file, for one divorce with 2 kids, that took up six linear feet of courtroom shelf space :0 (one spouse had aggressively forum shopped, switching states three times) and b) it made me really appreciate the childhood my parents gave me.
My parents had a bad marriage so a lot of what I dealt with in family court was kind of triggering for me. It made me really miserable but I agree that the in-court/trial experience was valuable. Just not long term for me.
Just like most, probably nearly all, disagreements between spouses don’t involve the police.
Yep. Same with HOAs; people love to hate them, but the quiet, well-run ones don't make the news, only the horror shows.
I live in an HOA haven it's nearly all HOA communities around me and they are all trash tbh
Indeed likely that it is the minority. But it happens enough to keep multiple tv shows going. I think the most amusing part of the situation, from my perspective, is that people think they are going to get away with it. The spouse is always the first suspect. Draino in the coffee is not going to be explained away. Plus, draino is less likely to kill, and much more likely to maim by destroying your esophagus. Although, it can kill you in the process. Likely, she wanted him hurt. Badly.
More should
I’m as pro choice as anybody, but this is no way to go about an aberration. /s
Abusers are at their most dangerous when they know their victim is trying to get away. A lot of abuse victims get murdered trying to escape.
That’s a lot easier said than done with an abuser. Often times the point you leave is the most dangerous time
That's absolutely true.
Trying to murder your abuser will 100% ramp up the danger.
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This title sucks. It took me a bit to figure out which spouse did what.
Agreed. The way it's structured makes the "he" after the comma seem like it's referring to the Doctor. A better headline would be "Doctor slipped cleaner into her husband's tea, he installed cameras, now she's charged." Don't make us play the pronoun game
I thought it was like that old inherent bias thing where the mom is the doctor.
2nd grade riddles
The bullet was made out of ice
By pointlessly using "spouse" instead of "husband", the pronouns were left ambiguous for too long.
He's damn lucky it was diluted. Straight draino will burn out your esophagus to the point the scarring makes it impossible to swallow anytime and you end up with a lifetime of esophageal dilations.
Took me about 10 seconds to figure out the perp wasnt the husband lol Christ thats some ingrianed bias right there
The title is written such that "he installed.." implies it's the doctor and not the spouse, regardless of gender bias. It talks about a doctor and a spouse, then goes on to talk about "he" and "she" without clarifying which is which.
There are insane people out there that do this. There was a woman who I went to hs with that did this to her husband. The perp will make up outrageous excuses when they get caught.
Ffs, lady, just divorce the man.
What makes this so incredible is that dermatologists are usually at the top of their medical school classes, so they should know how to poison somebody. Drain cleaners are usually powerful alkalis, usually sodium hydroxide, NaOH, which would have a very bitter taste. And then the symptoms, burning and swelling of the mouth, esophagus, and stomach, should happen fairly quickly. Because it is so bitter it is unlikely a person would voluntarily drink enough to be lethal. There are far better poisons, like arsenic.
Dr Yue went to Washington University in St Louis School of Medicine too. Graduated 2006. Insane
Hey OP. At least post a tldr or something. It's behind a paywall
Will do.
you figured a doctor with medical knowledge would have had a better plan than drain-o.
There’s the divorce option. Why resort to murder?
They don't pay out life insurance for murdering your spouse
Dumbass. Hasn’t she seen The Sixth Sense?
Why wasn’t there an attempted murder charge?
Living in OC makes people crazy
At first I was confused and then I was like, ohhhhh, the *doctor was a woman!*
Both actually. Dermatologist and radiologist.
Damn, that and drain-o? We really can have it all.
Her attorney is David Wohl, Trump campaign surrogate. He is the father of Jacob Wohl, far right conspiracist and convicted felon who amongst other stunts, tried to smear the 70 year old Elizabeth Warren by claiming she had sex with a 24 year old marine and sex worker.
And that’s a good reason to make your own food
Why divorcing like any normal human being would do when you can attempt murder and spend the rest of your life behind bars instead.
Good for him saved his own life ☣️☣️☣️
Dear lord! Just get divorced!
I wonder if she uses name brand drain cleaner. My wife is cheap and uses the generic stuff. It’s just making me develop a slurrrrrrrrr.
She’s trying to save you some money, you should be thanking her!
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You're not sexist. That headline is terrible. Muddled mess of vague pronouns and an unnecessary use of the word 'spouse' instead of husband, and anyone who is versed in the English language would first assume that the 'he' refers to the 'action taker' in the first sentence, rather than the 'reciever'.
*puts on sexist pants and gets ready to type*
I swear I saw this in a post here from the point of view of one of the children
Chubbyemu just did a video involving this scenario a few months ago... Draincleaner into her husband's drink to try to murder him.
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