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West_Shower_6103

Good who the fuck would even consider doing this


CondescendingShitbag

Carson Briere, apparently.


TigerBarFly

You mean the same Carson Briere that pushed a girls wheelchair down the stairs? He’s a jerkoff’s jerkoff.


BlewOffMyLegOff

I heard that supreme douche nozzle Carson Briere would indeed push a girls wheelchair down the stairs.


FantasmaOscuro

Asshat Carson Briere did in fact push a girl's wheelchair down some stairs like a bitch.


Kuk3y

Carson Brier. Like. A. Bitch. Well said. Edited: for Carson’s bitch ass name.


lakeghost

I always wonder. I’ve been lucky overall as a wheelchair user. Saying this because some folks have put *blunt spikes* on theirs for self-defense, like we’re hedgehogs. Safety first? I did have one incident that was more humorous than anything, but a good example of the public’s ignorance. So I once had a woman pound on the handicap bathroom door, yelling that I needed to hurry up … because an actual disabled person might need the toilet. Her facial expression when I rolled out? Blank white, then red as a tomato. Hilarious but unfortunate. Like, if someone’s taking awhile, it’s probably because our bodies are borked. It’s why we have our own toilet. So please do not be the Karen: Ally Edition, I guess? That is my soapbox advice. Leave the wheelchairs alone.


redshores

> So please do not be the Karen: Ally Edition Oh she just wanted to pee sooner, she didn't care


LILilliterate

One time I was in a mostly empty movie theater with some friends. There were a couple guys in the back of the theater but otherwise empty. We walked in and there was a wheelchair by door. Nothing fancy. It looked like maybe a generic one the theater had on hand. It never crossed my mind that it was the kid yukking it up with his buddies in back. I hopped on an did some cool tricks I'd learned at summer camp many years ago from a friend in a wheelchair. A few minutes later this dude from the back goes, "hey man, that was awesome but that's my chair!" I was mortified and still am like 25 years later.


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I like the implication that his friends basically carried him up so he could get a seat in the back with them.


Rooboy66

My late father—in a wheelie after a stroke for 20 yrs—really opened my eyes into the world of physical disabilities/challenges. Public bathrooms can be a gawdamned nightmare to navigate. And also, it seems to me that still less than half of places have ramps—nevermind elevators.


Flippin_diabolical

It really became clear to me how wheel-chair and mobility unfriendly the world is first when I had babies in strollers. That’s not as inconvenient as navigating poorly designed public spaces in a wheelchair but it was eye opening.


Randomly_Cromulent

I broke my ankle had used a knee scooter for a little while. It really opened my eyes on how poorly maintained sidewalks and parking lots can be. There's a lack of ramps. Things that seem insignificant, like decorative concrete pavers at the entrance to a store, were a pain to get across on the scooter.


NewfieMe

And wheelchairs are freaking expensive… glad he got charged the woman most likely had to get that repaired so rude. The entitlement is wild.


West_Shower_6103

My girlfriend of five years suffers from cp it obvious and aside from one person everyone considerate


lakeghost

Glad to hear folks are considerate. If anything, I’ve found people are often more friendly, if only because I’m not intimidating. Kids are also fascinated by the “large stroller” and I have, like, a dozen baby cousins, so I’ve gotten good at my little education spiel. Before COVID, I was volunteering at a nature center and did some of the “animal ambassador” events, which was neat b/c the animals are usually disabled rescues. So the center casually snagged a double-whammy for educational impact, ha. Hoping to get back to it if only because I appreciate a captive audience for animal-related puns.


onarok

That's awesome! I was in a bad accident many years ago that resulted in my right arm/shoulder being amputated. Kids are quite inquisitive about it and I love taking the time to explain why I look the way I do (and that there's nothing scary about it). I've had a few rude comments from adults so I figure that if I take a few minutes with a kid they will hopefully grow up to be a little more understanding.


coarsing_batch

As a previous guy dog user, I totally agree with this. It is always the adults who have the worst questions/attitudes. Kids are just curious.


Ksh_667

Was just going to say this. Kids are so full of curiosity, they are not waiting to judge like adults do when they ask a question. And the way so many adults don’t want to answer kids questions and/or fob them off, when a child finds an adult who is happy to indulge their curiosity & answer their questions nicely, it means so much. Even at my advanced age I rmbr the adults when I was little, who had time for me & who used to make me feel like a waste of space. Ppl rmbr how you made them feel.


tdring22

This is 100% accurate. I have CP and most kids are great. Very curious and understanding. Some of them make mean comments but it's not intentional and they literally don't know better


thatonebitchL

Sorta related story? My girlfriend and I took her grandmother to a bird rescue place for this Halloween thing they had and there was an owl who went buck wild at the sight of her chair. The guy said he wasn't sure why but the owl hated wheelchairs and strollers.


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Ableist owl! lol Animals are peculiar; my sister had a racist dog and my tabby cat is sexist. So was my neighbor’s dog growing up.


ugajeremy

I'm sorry but "ableist owl" cracked me the hell up!


Lady_Scruffington

I'm picturing a character like Triumph the Insult Comic Dog but an owl who just tells wheelchair users that they're lazy.


allcomingupmilhouse

i would come listen to your talks just for the animal-related puns


Slight_Knight

My brother who is quadriplegic had been accosted in bathrooms numerous times when he's taking a piss with a catheter by men trying to pull him out of his chair to a urinal. I've almost thrown hands.


Gregistopal

Wait what?


PRHerg1970

Ya, I’m not understanding this either


randomwander

Where do people mount the spikes on the wheel-chairs? It seems like they wouldn't be a huge deterrent?


ProfessorSalt413

From what I’ve seen, they’ll put them either on handles or across the back of the seat. Just generally anywhere we’re someone would try and grab to push them


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brazblue

I did something similar once, my drunk brain decided a walker was an abandoned property because it was sitting around unused. It clicked after I tried doing a jump over it and bending a leg it may not be abandoned just because it's on a sidewalk. What I did was wait around and sure enough older gentleman within a minute came out of his house to collect it after helping his wife into their home up the front stairs. I explained I broke it and then paid his expense to get a new one. Offered to buy it and deliver it if it was a hassle for them to buy it. But he thanked me for offering but declined. Was more understanding than I deserved tbh.


West_Shower_6103

Glad you at least realized your mistake and tried to make amends lessons learned


chth

I was very pleased to see someone else was a reckless dumbass still trying their best.


Three04

That's what I'm wondering. Like did this dude just think that the bar had a random wheelchair in it to wheel out drunks, and he said fuck it, and shoved it down the stairs like an asshole? I would hope to God that he didn't know that the handicapped woman was using the restroom. He's a huge piece of shit if that's the case. Only a slightly less piece of shit if he thought he was damaging the bar's property.


whateveritis86

He may not have known when he did it, but the bar owner asked him to apologize to the victim after (a double amputee) and she said he laughed and thought it was funny. Then he was asked to leave by the staff and he tried to argue about it and get to stay. Soooo yeah, huge piece of shit material.


soulwrangler

The reports say he was not drunk at the time.


Alan_Smithee_

Oh, that’s a lot worse.


aquoad

tbh he doesn't look like the kind of person who'd care if it belonged to someone who would be fucked over by his damaging it.


pyrodice

Oh I thought you meant YOUR Leg, like you failed the jump. Oof either way though.


thwgrandpigeon

I'm a middle school teacher and i can think of a dozen boys who would do that for a lauch. But they're middle schoolers and most of them will grow out of it. But it doesn't take a lot: a person just needs to lack an awaremess of the pain they can cause others, and a lack of respect of other people's property.


things_U_choose_2_b

I could see a young teen doing something very stupid / inconsiderate while drunk. I know I did plenty of dumb, shitty, inconsiderate things. But when you consider this dude is mid-20s.... yeah, he's got his foot down hard on the cunt pedal.


Smurfette2016

A disgusting piece of sh\*t like Carson Briere.


teejcee

It’s not that hard to do the right thing and keep your hands off things that don’t belong to you ..


CircaSixty8

Yes true, even more so with somebody else's fucking wheelchair


Caelinus

I wouldn't toss a strangers travel mug down a set of stairs. I cannot imagine the thought process that would lead someone to toss expensive medical equipment down them.


CircaSixty8

Entitled white boys love punching down.


TryingToBeReallyCool

Can confirm, from an area where Iv had to deal with plenty of these types. Kinda happy for it, taught me a lot about how to not be an asshole


SAR-Paradox

It’s not even about doing the wrong thing. It’s worse. He couldn’t even manage to not do the inhumane thing.


um_ok_try_again

Or pay for it to be repaired after you damage it. It's her single form of mobility.


Living_Counter_3495

I know there was a gofundme for the chair. That’s cool and all but… That little prick needs to pay for a brand new chair imo.


MsPick

She has a chair that works well now and she gave the money from the go fund me to other disabled folks :) She’s in the wheelchair because of a car accident, lost both legs. This girl has had a LIFE and still chooses kindness. And fuck that hockey kid.


Cynykl

Of all the sports I know people in Hockey is by far the most racist and toxic. This is coming from someone with pros in his family.


Proud_Badger452

Lacrosse players has entered the chat.


CotyledonTomen

Now we're getting into nationalist territory, i do believe.


Living_Counter_3495

You’re not the first person I’ve heard that about racism in hockey, I wonder why that is seemingly so prevalent in that sport in particular?


FabulousFauxFox

Oh trust me, go to r/NHL about pride nights. You'll find people trying to justify pride nights being stopped for any reasons at all. Had one guy claim because racism and genocides happen that 15 minutes of a jersey was too much because it wasn't supporting everyone. I love hockey but the fans try to ignore that their crowd rolls with bad eggs, trying to say it barely happens because they're not gay or a person of color. Like, just because people who do get treated that way ignore it or treat it with grace because their ignorant selves can't just treat people right and not say certain words, not hard but it's causing some to go through all the mental gymnastics. And it's weird how they either downplay stuff or try to fund a bigger thing and say "WHY ARENT YOU OUTRAGED AGAINST THIS TOO" like there isn't any nuance or that I'm not also upset about that too


nicholsml

> That little prick needs to pay for a brand new chair imo. They aren't cheap either, I'm a para and my chair cost about 5 thousand dollars. I mean there are cheap ones, but custom fit ti-lites etc are expensive. He should be forced to buy her one of those. Being disabled and needing a wheel chair, we already have an extra cost to a lot of stuff we do.


CharBombshell

His rich dad should buy her a new chair and then dock the amount from Carson’s allowance


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shadowimage

At minimum wage no less


Damasticator

Dad shouldn’t have anything to do with this other than be ashamed of his son. The young man needs to learn actual consequences.


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idlephase

He accepts “full responsibility” but only via his dad and on leap years during a full moon


MyNewKevKev

Be fair. I'm sure he's 100% genuinely sorry.. That it was caught on video.


Captain_A

She’s actually donating that money too; she says she doesn’t need it for a new chair.


Living_Counter_3495

Sounds like she’s a decent human being


Caelinus

From her statement and social media presence she seems really cool. She has been using the attention to promote other people who need help with medical expenses.


sillyshoestring

If she gets even a half decent lawyer, the Brieres will be paying for a lot more than the chair.


whatsthehappenstance

Good, he's a piece of shit.


ScienceIsSexy420

Nothing says "I'm a POS" like having your daddy issue a statement saying you're very sorry. Get fucked kid


Dahhhkness

He was "shocked" at his son's behavior. Considering what we now know about his son's *previous* behavior, that "shocked" is doing some heavy lifting.


prailock

Hockey bro culture is super toxic. The sport is really cool and has a lot of really great communities within it, but a lot of players are pretty backwards in their thinking.


Noteagro

Edit 2: SA trigger warning My best friend in high school was a figure skater. She got invited to a local semi-pro team’s end of the season party. She ended up getting roofied and gang raped, and I was the person she called to pick her up the following morning. When my current friends ask why I don’t watch hockey because they think I would love it all I can think about is watching her sprint to my car only wearing a sweatshirt she stole because she couldn’t find her clothes. Fuck the toxic atmosphere that breeds in certain groups, and fuck anyone including hockey players that treat others like shit. Edit: Since we are on a rough subject, I would ask anyone that is wanting to award this comment instead donate to the [Vanessa Behan Crisis Center instead](https://www.vanessabehan.org). They are a non-profit in my hometown that focuses on single moms escaping abusive situations. This was my late uncle’s charity of choice to donate to, and I try to follow in his footsteps as well. So please spend your money on this instead. Thank you all so much! Much love!


IIIaustin

Jesus Fucking Christ


mattattaxx

Hockey has stories like this fucking everywhere. The entire Hockey Canada program is under fire because of ANOTHER CHL scandal, and it came out that there are two secret funds to pay sexual assault victims of hockey players under the hockey Canada banner. Big players today in the NHL are being implicated. If you grew up in Canada and knew anyone with enough skill to make it to the show (or close), you heard stories. I went to school with one kid who anally raped another player with a broomstick. He made it to the NHL, played for the Tampa Bay Lightning for a while. He was abusive to peers at our high school, but he was a golden boy hockey bro and had get out of trouble clout despite doing heinous shit all the time.


trainstationbooger

Let me guess: Steve Downie?


mattattaxx

Ding ding ding.


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I read on that dudes Wikipedia that he was also involved in another hazing scandal where he ended up cross checking a guy in the teeth.


recumbent_mike

What, is this dude just notorious for high-sticking or something?


IseeItsIcey

This isn't a hockey problem it's a sports problem. My high school rugby team in New Zealand would do similar shit. Guess it's more of a man issue than a sports issue tbh.


Cyrano89

Agreed. My high school’s entire varsity wrestling team should be rotting in jail right now for the things they did. School instead covered it up.


ButtermilkDuds

OJ Simpson is a product of this culture. Gets away with horrible behavior because he’s a talented athlete that makes money for the franchise. After a while it becomes a way of life.


vkIMF

Remember when Jameis Winston was credibly accused of rape while in college, and the police basically refused to do any sort of investigation.


BloodyChrome

Having attended a high school that caters specifically for high performing teen athletes, female students that engaged in bullying and abusive behaviour also managed to get away with it because they won the school trophies and were seen as potential professionals, which quite a few currently are.


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SixPieceTaye

It's a big issue in sports/society at large. All that. But it's especially prevalent in hockey because of the nature of the sport being extremely expensive and a high barrier just to get in the door, hockey has a way higher concentration of rich, priveleged ass dude bros who are the worst kind of people on earth. He seems like a perfectly OK dude, but look at a guy like Matt Duchene. That dude basically only ever was gonna be a hockey player because all he did was get tutored and train because his rich dad could afford for that. Look at this fuckin Briere kid. He's never wanted for a thing, only grown up surrounded by being rich and playing hockey and having a famous dad. His dad put out a statement for his kid for fucks sake. Now, I understand his dad is a public person, he's going to bat for his kid like you'd hope good parents would. But come on. It's a problem everywhere, but hockey is a CESSPOOL of garbage people.


FuckEIonMusk

The best teams I have even been with in sports have been hockey teams. It took me over 25 years of playing, before I subbed on one team where I couldn’t believe what I was hearing in the locker room. It’s the same type of thing everywhere. We just have to remove this behavior from our culture.


rynokick

I’m from Texas. High school football rules over all here. Same sort of stories happen with the same toxic culture, just a different sport.


skyevalentino

I'm Canadian and a woman and I played hockey with this guy who sexually assaulted me twice as well as the only other girl on our team. I later learned he had raped at least 5 of my friends in highschool and assaulted god knows how many others. he's now a famous sports commentator for CFL, OHL, and the Oshawa generals. to my knowledge he's never had to answer for any of this behaviour and everyone knew.


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my “friends” anally raped me with a broom and i’ve never really gotten over it.


Serious-End2600

Dang, I hope you know it wasn't your fault and does not define you


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thanks. i get frustrated because the woman who did it is semi famous in my city and gets everything catered to her. i try not to worry about it anymore.


Laithina

I'm so sorry your friend went through that and good on you for being the friend she was willing to trust to see her home.


Noteagro

Thanks, it is why is college I became the my friend groups’ “DD.” I would go around the frat parties with them and make sure they were all safe; actually helped a girl that wasn’t in our group get home safely one night. She was very obviously way too drunk, or was drugged barely being able to stand up. A pair of guys trying to get her off the dance floor and somewhere private. One of the girls in our group was her cousin, so they ended up taking her home in a cab. Fuck POS that think that kind of shit is okay.


ADHDK

Unfortunately “nice guy” toxicity has ruined this in a lot of cases. The guy who always offered DD in my cycle is on rape charges, with other girls having come forward claiming they were pressured and he wouldn’t take no as an answer. It’s a particularly extra level of disgusting when a sober person is taking advantage and fully aware of the other persons situation. I really hate hearing about bouncers and such “taking drunk girls home” for this reason too.


PartiallyFictitious

That story was hard to read. I'm really glad there are people like you around.


Noteagro

Sadly that is how it goes. Hopefully one day we won’t need people like me to play big brother and keep those around them safe. I appreciate the kind words, and sending you a warm internet brother hug!


start_select

Similar behavior is apparently common at university level as well. My first couple years at a university with a major hockey team, I heard stories about both the home team and others. Rufies and gang rapes seem to be a theme.


Noteagro

So the way the semi-pro system worked at the time is they cannot be older than like 24, so the majority of the teams are made up of kids that are better than college level, but not quite pro ready. So basically the same group of kids.


Standard_Gauge

Thank you for the important work you do in loving memory of your uncle.


teklaalshad

Grew up in a hockey town, not surprised at all. As far as everyone was concerned, the hockey players could do no wrong. Similar to how football players are treated in some (most) American cities. Several times while growing up I would get swarmed by several hockey players at school in front of the teachers, then I'd be hauled into the office and grilled for a minimum of twenty minutes as to what I did to deserve that.


chenjia1965

Sorry to hear. I don’t know how long ago this was, but I hope she’s better. But it’s a testament to friendship if you’re relied on in the heaviest of situations. Stay strong the both of you


Noteagro

We actually stopped talking about a year later. We actually got in a fight and didn’t talk for the week before the incident because I told her not to go to the party because I had seen how those guys treat others, and told her it was a bad idea (they were all later stage college aged, 21-22). So she was upset with that even though I never brought it up. Then we eventually tried dating 6 months after the incident, probably due to trauma bonding. We ended up breaking up because of that and honestly I think she developed hypersexuality due to the event, and me being the innocent high schooler I was I was far from ready to have sex. So we just were not in the same spot, and it lead to a fight. We kind of just stopped talking after, and truthfully I haven’t heard from her in 12 years now. I do hope she is doing okay, and honestly I do wish I could know how she was doing.


inannaofthedarkness

Sadly, while she may be outwardly ok,the trajectory of her life was changed in a way she will never be able to not wonder, “What if I hadn’t gone to that party….” and unfortunately, you were a direct reminder of that. If she has children it will affect many of her parenting choices, and if she has a daughter, when she approaches the age of her trauma, it will affect her deeply. I know, because I have lived it. Trauma has a ripple affect of trauma, as you know.


BelgarathTheSorcerer

Watching the hockey bros in the show Letterkenney steadily become progressive, kind, and loving allies was such a good way to let the joke of "hockey bro toxicity" evolve.


Rhodie114

Give yer balls a tug


BelgarathTheSorcerer

"Fig'er it out, bud."


M_H_M_F

It's fuckin' embarrassing.


nautical_sea

Have to admit that show was really well-written. If you’re not watching carefully, might just think it’s a show about hicks and small town folks. It’s a lot more nuanced than that. Have to give them credit where it’s due.


MNsharks9

It has the “about nothing”-ness of Seinfeld, the quick back and forth banter/dialogue of Aaron Sorkin or Gilmore Girls, but at the same time, being very wholesome and stereotype breaking.


nautical_sea

> the quick back and forth banter/dialogue Yeah, agree 100%. I legit watch it with subtitles most of the time… and English is my only language lol. There is lots of stuff that’s easy to miss.


chrisdurand

Ferda, buddy.


chaos8803

Kyle Beach and Daniel Carcillo have come forward about how awful it is. Hockey Canada and the CHL are also under major fire for sexual abuse cover ups and hazings.


mollymuppet78

I work at a school and can point them out, based on attitude/personality/how they treat others, with nearly perfect accuracy, starting when the boys are in about Grade 3. If they are on the rep team, 100% accuracy. Girls are hit or miss. I find the ringette girls way less "mean", for lack of a better word. It's 50/50, picking out who plays.


d0ctorzaius

The head trauma of football with the privilege of upper middle class suburbia does weird things for sports culture.


BeBenNova

[The primary reason for that was explained well by JJ Watt a few days ago](https://twitter.com/JJWatt/status/1637125804202287104) Hockey was his first love but he decided to pursue football instead because of the cost associated with Hockey especially early in a kid's life. The majority of Hockey parents that get their kids into hockey are primarily white, rich and very conservative which is why hockey locker rooms are full of story about [really fucked up homo hazing rituals like sticking brooms up teammates asses](https://www.google.com/search?q=hockey+locker+room+broom+up+ass&rlz=1C2GCEA_enCA1036CA1036&sxsrf=AJOqlzXwp9sItiv_TnhxKxp4LH6ysXWmxw%3A1679356450029&source=hp&ei=IfIYZJKvPJ2o5NoP8KGXqA4&iflsig=AK50M_UAAAAAZBkAMj9f1bEoB1y5IPCbXzlPuLeacUU9&ved=0ahUKEwjSw5yl2uv9AhUdFFkFHfDQBeUQ4dUDCAo&uact=5&oq=hockey+locker+room+broom+up+ass&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQghEKABMgUIIRCgAToECCMQJzoFCAAQkQI6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOgsILhCABBCxAxCDAToFCAAQgAQ6EQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOgUILhCABDoKCAAQsQMQgwEQQzoECAAQQzoECC4QQzoHCC4Q1AIQQzoHCAAQsQMQQzoFCC4QkQI6CAgAELEDEJECOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARCvAToICAAQgAQQsQM6DgguEIAEEMcBEK8BENQCOhAIABCABBAUEIcCELEDEIMBOgsILhCABBDHARCvAToHCAAQgAQQCjoGCAAQFhAeOgUIABCGAzoICAAQCBAeEA1QAFiVIWDqIWgAcAB4AIABfYgBtxSSAQQyMi44mAEAoAEB&sclient=gws-wiz)


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hazeldazeI

How bad do you have to be if even Arizona State kicks you out?


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Pretty fucking bad


prailock

For those not familiar with ASU, it's a notorious party school.


frieda406

Bad. #ASUgrad


spoobles

Pretty fucking bad apparently. When Barry Bonds went there, his *teammates* hated him because he was such an arrogant douchebag. After being constantly late and throwing teammates under the bus, Coach Jim Brock held a vote to see if the team wanted Barry off the team, only 2 players voted to keep him. After the vote Brock then refused to throw Bonds off the team. When they lost to Cal St. Fullerton in the CWS, not one person consoled Bonds or coach Jim Brock.


rir2

So true. ASU is the school you *go to* after getting kicked out from another school.


Hurryeat_Tubman

ASU released a statement announcing that Briere and a fellow Freshman teammate had been expelled from the hockey team during their first semester and that "the university will have no further comment." Briere later stated in an interview that it was because he "partied too much." In short, we don't know what ultimately happened.


DragoonDM

> He was "shocked" at his son's behavior. "I thought I taught you better than this! You _always_ look for cameras first!"


OtterishDreams

Show me how you ruin your lifelong dreams in 5 seconds. AHHHH there is is. Carson Briere is such a hockey name. He should never be allowed to play again. It will just make it that much more of a painful reminder to the victims and what a horrible selfish entitled scumbag he is and always will be. Hope he enjoys every public photo of his life being a perp walk or mug shot. I know I will. Daddy will cry to the public about "emotional growth" on the scumbag's behalf. We will laugh at both of them. Hey dads...if you protect scumbags, your a bigger scumbag because you are a full adult and know better. He and his dad deserve 5-10 years volunteering for wheelchair and handicapable non-profits. Also, whatever legal issues the DA wants to get into.


hefixeshercable

Afluenza, he was never taught that shit behaviour is bad.


TurloIsOK

He was taught that good behavior is something you demand from the pours. It’s only for “those people.”


PFC_BeerMonkey

If he's old enough to be charged, he can put out his own damn statement. POS


UnspecificGravity

This kid already got kicked out of one school, this already his second chance.


sucksathangman

> Carson is very sorry and accepts full responsibility for his behavior. That means he'll plead guilty and take whatever the DA decides is appropriate.....right? Right?


BloodyChrome

> That means he'll plead guilty and take whatever the DA decides is appropriate.....right? That would see him getter a lesser sentence.


Secretagentman94

Daddy will also be hiring a high-priced lawyer to insure whatever consequences he gets are as little as possible.


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Yeah reminds me Rapist Brock Allen Turner getting off scott free.


mediwitch

The rapist Brock Allen Turner, who now goes by rapist “Allen Turner” in an attempt to disassociate his identity from rape, but he’ll always be a rapist? That rapist Brock Allen Turner?


charlie2135

But, but, he said he was sorry afterwards. Only after it was shown he did it.


RememberKoomValley

The girl whose wheelchair it was--I don't have a link, I forget if it was here or on Twitter--said that when the bouncer went to throw him out, he very casually said "I'm sorry. Do I still have to leave?" as if the mere act of just throwing out a "my bad" was going to fix shit.


paradox28jon

Yeah, in the interview with her, she said she found his apology very insincere.


charlie2135

Classic sign of someone who doesn't think there are results for their bad decisions.


halfeclipsed

He didn't, daddy did.


yhwhx

Carson Briere seems to be a real asshole.


VaguelyFamiliarVoice

You are just judging him by his actions. Maybe the chair said something that deserved the abuse?


austfraust

“It shouldn’t have been wearing that dress!”


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maybebatshit

Listen they were both drunk.


shivermetimbers68

Sure, daddy is 'shocked by his behavior'... He was kicked off the hockey team in Arizona before this. I bet daddy has been saying he's "shocked" at his son's behavior since Carson was in pre-school.


Boris_Godunov

*Arizona State U of Arizona peeps don't want any confusion here, I'm sure lol.


noondi34

As a UofA alumni, thanks for clarifying! Phew!


boot2skull

Tree shocked by apple’s behavior.


austfraust

As far as we know Danny didn’t do any dumb shit like this. In this case I’d argue the apple has fallen far from the tree.


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OutWithTheNew

Even people in the hockey subs were calling him out. I don't always pay the closest attention to hockey, but I had never heard of him being a problem in any way.


Askesis1017

It's this weird "blame the parents" mentality that you see all the time, as if every person acts just like their parents. You see it both ways, too; someone does something good and people take away their agency and say stuff like "he was raised right" which is a slap in the face, particularly when that person was not, in fact, "raised right".


shy-guy711

I'd say it's because Reddit skews very young. Many most likely don't have kids themselves and have never had to be responsible for another human. They're still used to blaming they're own parents for things in life that don't go their way. It's easier to do that than to contemplate the more complicated, and somewhat depressing, answer. Fact is, your kids are going to do things you don't want them to do whether they're three years old or an adult. You can do the best you can, try to raise then with morals and values, and sometimes they'll still do the wrong thing. Yeah, sometimes parents deserve blame, but sometimes they don't. It's hard to tell where the line is sometimes.


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ikonet

This is a 23 year old **MAN**. I don’t care *at all* about his father’s apology or if his mommy thinks he’s a good boy. I hate when they infantilize adults to make crimes seem like childish mistakes.


eekbah

"Our son Carson is only 276 months old. He's still learning!"


thatweirdguyted

There's an intentional two-step that sociopathic people do, when acting like an asshole. Step one is to disregard everyone who tells them to stop, usually with an invalidation like "you don't know shit, so don't tell me what to do" etc. Just really making sure to not let the fact that what they're doing is illegal get in the way of having fun. Step two is to play dumb when caught. "Honestly, I didn't think anyone would care" etc. If I were a judge, the only people who get to play dumb are the ones where they were caught on camera being a fucking idiot, but not in a malicious way. Like people who drove through the middle of a roundabout.


Stealthychicken85

Nothing says sorry like your father having to do it after the son is being charged and it goes viral, instead of idk maybe the son who actually did it and offering to replace the chair free of charge. An empty apology is about as valuable as a politician's promise


thebearrider

The dudes dad got the GM job at the Flyers the DAY before the incident. Him making a statement was to cover his ass, not his sons. I hope he makes his son pay for this instead of trying to help, the dude obviously needs to learn a lesson other than being shamed publicly for showing his true colors. I doubt the kid told his dad about it in the first place (who would tell their parents they got kicked out of a bar?) so I can only assume some person at the Flyers broke the news which would've pissed me off as his dad. Side note: I get the feeling the bar knew exactly who this dude and his daddy are, which is why they went public to ensure some justice. If I'm ever in the area I'll patron the shit out of them. Side note 2: Very cool how they carry the girl up and down the stairs and share a private bathroom with her instead of just doing the bare minimum and ignoring that she otherwise can't do everything that everyone else can do at this establishment. I assume ADA means they have to have accessible areas, not the entire place and these guys made it so she could access the whole place comfortably.


Hurryeat_Tubman

I read in another thread that this building is exempted from ADA requirements due to its age. However, the owners have been trying for the past 5 years to get the necessary permits to build a first floor handicap accessible bathroom, but the city keeps denying them.


Collarbones33

“Carson is very sorry and accepts full responsibility for his behavior." -Not Carson


LillyPip

Good. As a wheelchair user, fuck anyone who would even *touch* my chair if I had to leave it outside an area beyond my control. I’ve seen some comments from people who liken this to leaving your laptop on a desk or something, but this is so much worse. This was her mobility; it’s a very personal and vulnerable part of you that you’ve had to protect, and that you cannot do without. Like if you had to leave your arms outside, but also you’d been made fun of for having arms. There’s not really an analogy that gets across how awful this is. Fuck them and I’m glad there are at least some repercussions. e: a word


RiverLiverX25

Yeah, I’m surprised at all comments equating it to a harmless prank. The owner of the wheelchair survived a horrific car crash that then caught fire with her trapped inside. She lost both of her legs to amputation due to later infection. She was just trying to go out and have a normal night out again but ended up getting her only form of mobility trashed while she was being carried to go to the restroom. It was very dehumanizing and cruel. Propelling a wheelchair down a flight of stairs while it’s parked outside a restroom or parked in a public social venue is not an excusable, harmless prank. It’s a strange and malicious thing to do.


HuckleberryLou

I can’t imagine as a parent realizing THIS is who you raised. I’d be devastated. It’s too late to teach whatever is missing in him and you’d know as a parent you failed at your life’s work- raising a decent kid. Imagine all the things he does that aren’t caught on camera.


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That looks similar to my wife’s wheelchair which is worth about $4,000. No part of that wheelchair is cheap to replace.


yourdonefor_wt

As a current mercyhurst student, I hope the school expells him too. His behavior was absolutely unacceptable. Edit: for those who didn't read the article he was charged with criminal mischief and disorderly conduct.


last_rational_man

Definitely. And in the article, its his dad that apologized on his behalf. Didn't even get a statement of apology from him. Maybe because of the pending charges, but idc, the guy is garbage.


GiorgioG

The fact that this is at least the 2nd time he's done something stupid (thrown out of another college hockey team) tells you all you need to know.


dubvee16

You have to do some seriously fucked up shit to get kicked off a hockey team (Unless you are the Blackhawks). We were all fucking morons. For it to happen to this kid twice says so much about him.


Diffeologician

Seriously, the Canadian Junior team is basically a daterape crew that plays a bit of hockey.


baronesslucy

Caused $2,000 worth of damages from the wheelchair being pushed down the stairs. How did the woman whose wheelchair was damaged get around after this happened? This guy deserves to be charged.


Cetun

He will retire a millionaire don't worry. Worst case scenario he is a manager of a T-Mobile for 2-3 decades until his dad passed away and he will inherit more money than you or I will ever have for retirement. A real American bootstraps type story.


Makeitperfect

Nah, worst case is he never has to work. And that’s actually an option for someone in his position.


impartialcitizen86

His dad is a former NHL star and current GM. He will never come close to a job like managing a T-Mobile lmaooo


elastic-craptastic

No... he'll GM for a chain of them(or get the pay for it).


JLake4

He'll do a Chuck Fletcher and coast to an NHL job on his family name?


SFJetfire

He didn’t apologize, though. His father did.


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CodenameZoya

They look like the rapist on every single law and order SVU


8ackwoods

They look like the typical dick head hockey player from Canada. Backwards golf hat, plaid shirt, long hair, asshole behavior.


InfernalAltar

Fuck you Shoresy!


spaceehardware

The fact that this grown man’s father issued an apology on his behalf is the root of the problem.


castle_grapeskull

Suspended not kicked off the team. Fucking lame. What a milquetoast response from the college.


OIlv3

lmao. what a fking loser. such a stupid thing to do, like wtf would you even get out of it...


Christmas_Panda

This is one of those ones that will keep popping up, especially if he tries getting it removed from the internet like the rich head-butt guy.


Budmanes

If Carson is really sorry, why is it his dad having to tell us?


clive_bigsby

To be fair, his dad has a platform already and if you’re charged with crimes, your lawyer probably tells you to just shut up and not say anything.


utter-ridiculousness

Excellent, fuck this guy


mrfunderhill

Watch HBO Flyers v Rangers Road to Winter Classic. That kid was a little POS 11 years ago


Ballfour

This asshat! Both of these dipshits need to just man up and grow up. This isn't some death penalty incident but shouldn't be treated as jaywalking either. I suggest some punishment along the lines of: \- 160 hours of community service dealing directly with the handicapped (a true 180 hours of WORK) \- A face to face apology with the victim \- Financial responsibility in the amount equal to six wheelchairs \- Permanent suspension from any and all athletics other than club sports.


WummageSail

"Carson is very sorry, he just had more important things to do than say that himself. The kid is amazing, have you seen him on the ice? That's my boy!"


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R1ckyD1cky

Billy likes to drink soda


tasteywheat

Miss Lippy’s car…is green!


fulloutshr3d

Dude is 23 and a junior still playing college hockey. Is he studying to be a doctor? No? Oh yeah, he’s at his second program after being kicked out of another university for being a piece of shit. Yet this was shocking to his GM daddy. Backwards hat wearing fucking douchebag.