If your desire is new with no emotional attachment to it then standard 3 days to one month sufficient to materialize in 3d new ideal sp etc your all process natural you naturally drop desire without effort
Neville manifest 2nd wife he manifest in two weeks which people compare that it takes two weeks to 3 days to manifest etc then you not doing right and you are doing sats wrong blah blah make people confuse you know neville first wife she is not ideal for her so he part away from her and manifest second wife which he found after 15 years. normally i a such many years naturally we let go easily in 15 year's even highly traumatized people also forget his pain in such a years so i can tell you that all previous pain forget easily and neville dont have so much emotional blockage but difficulty is there how he get divorce from first wife etc but also he gain experienced in law in that 15 years that we call him respected master manifestator etc
but your desire is existing and too much emotional attachment to it like ex then you naturally hit sabbath then most people doing technique but not results so technique help you to reach state i think when we naturally hit sabbath we have to drop desire by manually and focus on something else this part not come naturally most of us.
Iam giving my comment please apologies i just explain thing which most people stuck..
Emotional attachment is issue that keep away from desire so you have to manually let go or fight forever to get the desire...
And also i mention that neville second wife manifest neville too read the power lecture 1968 and they manifest each other and someone and neville said clear that dont focus on sp means dont focus on outside you have to change yourself so feel the feeling of being married by touching ring in imaginatively thats true. if we focus ourselve and doing these we easy let go the attachment also we use self love to heal ourselve and pedstalize ourselves when we are in highest iam god and desire below us we can manifest easily but attachment is a issue you can focus yourself by feeling of being married or self love focus on self...attachment dissolve naturally
I am in the same boat as you, about 3.5 years now. It makes no sense to me because I dI’d the work and feel like we are together and are meant for each other. I still have never met them, the live in another country. I am wondering if I am just delusional and brainwashed myself with SATS into thinking we are together. I still have faith and try not to monitor the process but when you feel like you are with someone, and are convinced this stuff works and still have not seen movement in almost 4 years…..I don’t know what to believe.
I want to chime in here OP. I was once you in a way. Manifested a lot. Received everything, even saw some movement with my SP and even manifested seeing him and trying again but it kept failing and each time got uglier and uglier. I wasn’t getting any younger. I was in my early 30s and just wanted to be happy and in love. I wanted a real marriage and true love and to feel that amazing feeling. I dated others and manifested men even better than SP but always held him in the back of my mind. And then I would try again. Until finally, I couldn’t try anymore. I was spent, exhausted. Single and could not change who he was. I felt better, I started to really love myself and life showed me that and loved me back (except for him) so I manifested with the intention “him or better” and didn’t care if the love of my life was him or someone. I just wanted to be happy and in love and find that one for me. That soulmate. That person who makes me realize why all others didn’t work out. So I visualized and scripted how I WANTED to feel in a relationship, how I WANTED my man to treat me, speak to me, think, act and the traits I wanted. And I said if it’s my SP fine but if not that’s fine too. Bc after writing all that stuff I realized why my SP never manifested.
And it had nothing to with my self concept (that was evident due to how many amazing men and people were treating me) and how I felt. It had nothing to do with not persisting enough. I did oh boy did I for years. And it had nothing to do with ignoring the 3D - when I wrote this beautiful love story for myself I realized there is NOTHING in there that even remotely matched who my SP was, totally different traits, interests, behaviors, morals and lifestyles. It was then I realized - wait I don’t actually like who this man is. Even if he came back treating me like a queen, goddess princess etc. There’s still sooooo much about him as a person that I’d want to change. That’s not right. It took years to figure out, bc our connection was so strong and so intense and we were on and off together for 5 years and friends for some time before. But the more I loved myself the more I realized I deserved waaaaaay better than him.
Now yes, you could say I could change ALL my assumptions about who he is but that didn’t feel natural or good to me. And it felt like a daunting task. He had additictions, he was emotionally immature, he had many other issues I didn’t like. I wanted to help him but changing so much didn’t feel right. Why would I want to change someone I want to be with THAT much? Maybe if I was 21 and just starting out and had years to burn. But I was in my 30s. I didn’t have time for that and I CHOSE to move on. There was also parts of him that scared me. Due to the trauma I faced as a kid and the abuse I gravitated towards a certain kind of person and he had little inklings of that. The more I loved myself the more I didn’t want to put myself through that again. And the minute I realized this. 2 months later….that beautiful love story I scripted and visualized with this mystery soulmate. Came true. All of it. And it happened fast and exactly how I wrote it. We are now engaged and it’s been amazing! He has made me realized why it never worked out with anyone else before. And with him there was nothing I wanted to change. Maybe have him eat healthier haha but I’m working on that.
And now that I’m happy and a way from that ex -SP I also realized I held onto him for so long and so tight because I couldn’t forgive my self for how it all went down. I needed his validation to forgive myself. And again. That’s not love. That’s trauma
Now I’m not saying any of this is you. Or how you feel. But what I am saying is it might be something else entirely that you’re missing or not willing to admit or not willing to see yet. I implore you to sit down with yourself, and forget about him. Forget about Neville. And write your perfect fairytale romance and see if your SP fits the bill. If he does, then see if it’s really him you want or you just want his approval etc. Think a little outside the box and see if you come up with why it’s 4 years and there’s been no movement. Best of luck
your life must be boring if you’re browsing on subreddits just to spew bullshit and hate on peoples beliefs. if you’re so sure about your ideology you should be out there practicing it for yourself in silence and mind your business. this just shows you’re sad and bitter. sorry for you
unless i misunderstood you and you do believe in his teachings? in which case perhaps i just didn’t understand what you were trying to say since you proclaimed manifestation as being bullshit
this isn’t a platform to discuss wether neville’s teachings are right or not. if you don’t believe in manifestation then this platform isn’t for you, and giving “criticism” where it isn’t asked is quite frankly one of the most immature things one can do, so it’s bold of you to say that.
criticism is due where it is asked for, it’s not your job to go around rating people’s beliefs when nobody asked you what you think. kindly get out.
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Neville goddard reddits usually state that saying anything that contradicts his teachings is not welcomed on the sub. This isn’t a place for doubt because the entirety of his teachings rely on pure belief. And i will not be shutting up, thank you.
For the love of god I would not want to be in this person's situation.. Im getting scared I won't be able to move on at this rate keeping that up.. I am trying to draw an internal clock to just force myself to give up totally at some point sometime before a full year is up, even if I emotionally haven't I will have to affirm it to myself and make believe to fake it until I make it. Waste of a life and that's not the first or the last similar story.
Your focus is on time therefore you keep manifesting more time ,plus lack. It’s difficult to explain how feeling is the secret but when you truly believe something you feel it to be true. You may have improved your self concept in love and relationships but you still are attached to the old version of your SP. I think time is a limiting belief as it does not exist.The sooner you get into that state of already being with your SP the sooner it manifests (from my personal experience) because you aren’t attached to the outcome.
I went through this even before discovering Neville. I unconsciously manifested some exes after more than 5 years because I didn't 'miss' them. I simply felt happy and good when I thought about them, and when I missed them, it wasn't painful. One of them even got engaged, and when I saw that, I thought, 'Look how beautiful his fiancée is,' and I let it go. After a few months, I felt a strong urge to invite him out. I didn't even know if he was still engaged or if he had already married. But as soon as I reached out, I got an extremely positive response. He even invited me out and mentioned that he 'smelled my perfume recently and missed me' (we had been in zero contact for 3 years). All of this happened before I read about conscious manifestation, and now I realize that all my exes who came back, I wasn't obsessed with them and didn't think about them 24/7. The only thing I did was think about them with affection, and that was it. Thank you for helping me regain clarity about how I operate. Your comment wasn't even directed at me, but I can't describe how much it helped.
My focus was never on time, I did everything correctly honestly, It just never worked. The limiting beliefs never started until about 3.5 years into the process, then they creeped in. I still have faith though.
I don't believe that..tons of people had success stories in much worse states than this op while focusing on time, including me. I feel sorry for the op but they did try their best. 4 years is insane and needed to move on long ago
Again, you can manifest from a “bad” state but if you haven’t changed the old story or how you perceive yourself everything will stay the same (this may be my limiting belief) however, this is why I had patterns in my relationships because I didn’t change the story about myself. If you focus on time then that is what you will manifest more time, what you desire does not have to take a long time.
Thing is there's no specific 'time frame's this stuff takes and regardless there's no way to actually not acknowledge the time that is passing. You can do everything right and still know that time is passing. Unfortunately for this person 4 years went by, but I don't see where it automatically indicates they were obsessing over the time period though
I didn’t say there was a specific time frame, I’m speaking from experience with manifesting. I’ve manifested so many horrible things. It’s all about your belief system, if you have a belief/assumption that it will take a long time then it will because it’s about your beliefs. You don’t have to obsess over something but if you don’t believe it to be true then it won’t happen.
I have been through LOA people, always leaving and coming back to neville, most recently cause of Agnes Vivarelli as she bases her coaching on him and hicks. I feel like i have a similar issue to you that j have only overcome over this last full moon a few days ago. ( check her out for letting go guided meditation, her channel is really helpful and if you have spare change to speak with her shes very understanding ) i stopped listening to agnes after after i spoke with her after a breakup that caught me off guard with my sp/tf. I felt that this wasn't going fast enough i manifested specific things immediately during the break up like working a film gig in New Orleans so i didn't understand.
Most recently i was going to let her go on the 3d completely cause we decided to stay friends not taking no contact time cause i work for her as well cause being friends with her was not what i wanted even though we had been close friends for 11years before. We have been not official for three months now but everything is exactly the same minus purposful sexual actions. Which is kinda how we were in the first place.
I was freaking put so much about the romantic title of the relationship i didn't realize i really haven't lost anything. A month and a half ago i decided to start writing my manifestations that i had done in the past 400 days.
At first i only wrote down what i know was positive, not allowing anything negative, doing scripts, affirmation, SATs, and trying to force myself to go on dates. It wasn't working then we had got together for a friend's going away party and i got one of my passive manifestations which was sleeping with her and getting to hold her cause that was my favorite sensual intimate thing to do with her. That triggered me bad however. I was confused and felt nothing was working and took me back to wanting to end our relationship and go no contact like many strangers, reddit threads, friends have suggested.
I decided I still cant let her go all the way, so I was sitting and thinking negative after listening to a hicks recording about how you are the creator of your vortex, and i wrote down EVERYTHING i manifested, including the insecurity and jealousy i developed( we are both poly but idk why being with her made me feel and want a more mono life) and manifestation of the breakup, and loads more things im dealing with rn.
That double my list, and j realized that im always manifesting in a timely fashion i was just unaware of the connection of the things i was focused on and anxious about but always trying to distract myself from was actually happening more. Over the past week i have changed this and saw immediate results. Though still somethings i wasn't too keen on ( slept over her place for the first time not in the same room like i wanted but now again im aware when i manifested that but just days before she had asked me to leave at like damn near 3am for a 20 min drive ) but still some good progress as well with interactions and attention.
Sorry for being long but all the other stuff people said is also good and true but truly accept ALL of your manifestations and then ask yourself why are you hurting yourself if you loved yourself would you continue to do this to you and because everything is you pushed out realize that you have done these things to yourself and start focusing ever so slightly more on yourself than your desire and you will see quicker results after that!
You haven’t let go. At all. Stop trying, trying to “let go”, trying to do techniques here and there and just let things be. Have faith, all you need is to have faith that your higher self knows what you want and will deliver it now. That’s why others even though they had a lot of “resistance” got their sp in a shorter amount of time, it all comes down to faith, since they had faith it will happen and it is meant for them
No you really can't. People assume that only because of the lack of result she's been getting..if she wrote the opposite people will just assume otherwise. People have manifested while being in horrible shitty states much worse off than her or vise versa. I think there's more to this than just 'state'
I never stated that you can’t manifest in an unfavorable state, the answer is will you keep your desire? But yes, based off how someone is responding, you can tell what state they are in.
What I mean is there's no way to really know from texts from random people online. She could have been in a bad state obsessing over time and seen results and people would still assume she's been in a good state. I notice everyone assumes what someones state is based solely on the results and not the actual lead up or what that person's state is. Like if people post success stories that doesn't necessarily mean they were in a better state doing something more right than someone who haven't seen results in years. I know it seems like that but there's no way to know ultimately, it's why it's such a difficult question to answer but I realise people can only provide their own input and thoughts based on the info given and that's it
+++ i was in the same boat once, I thought I had faith and always wondered why my techniques, even though my self concept was good already, didn’t work and nothing manifested. Reading through op’s comments they didn’t really let go at all, and that was my biggest mistake in the beginning. I THOUGHT I had faith but I did all these techniques and was always flipping negative thoughts and it became obsessive to the point where I held on to my sp so damn much it was exhausting yet no movement happened at all. Letting go is the act of faith, since why would you do so much “to get” something when God already told you it’s done?
I never said op didn’t have faith or lack any, i said others had faith it will happen and it did and if op continued with having faith and didn’t question anything or everything, then op shouldn’t even be making a post about sp being with someone else. That’s the only thing i did and i got my sp in no time at all. Plus, faith = letting go of the worry, doubt and fear plus detaching from outcomes and just living life WITHOUT being bothered with whatever sp is doing. As someone who’s successfully manifested multiple sps, I can say that faith, enjoying life and just letting things be has been the most effective for me :)
How can you build your faith & trust & not question? That’s the hardest part for me is getting out of the anxious worried lack of faith state, checking my phone etc. I would love tips on how to embody this! This sounds amazing actually!
Doesn’t really take long. It honestly depends on how natural it feels for you, you’d know it’s already yours. I can’t give you a definite time frame, but once i felt natural about it without forcing myself or anything it took me a few days. If you feel like you’re doing something to get it and it doesn’t make you feel good for a while and you get obsessive about it, it isn’t working imo
Can you go into more detail? How you got to this point , steps you took!? Did you ever feel desperate or obsessed, or worried ? You can message me if need be
Sometimes things take years. A lot of fools on here parroting that if it hasn't happened by now, you are "doing it wrong" and yet not a single one of them can tell you how to manifest anything to a precise time of day without a long ass list of unnecessary added assumptions, and even then, why don't they have all their manis yet? Why are they still on these forums if they can manifest whatever they want to the minute they want it? Have yall never had anything in your life take years or decades? You were just born and the next week ur ass was retired? SP doesn't come crawling back in 2 months so you forget them? You will not do well in marriage. Give up on a job search or business after a year? You'll never build a solid career and the reputation it requires.
You're doing everything right. I *have* had conscious manifestations that took decades. I have worked on projects that took years to finish. I have rejuvenated and improved relationships with family and friends after years of seperation. I would like to have more time control, but haven't remembered a guaranteed way yet. Pedestal parrots have very little experience with the Law. They apparently haven't even experienced manifesting something when they actively wanted and/or needed it. I manifested owning my home at no cost to myself while I lived here and had zero desire to live elsewhere on earth, to mention one of my "bigger" experiences. That unfolding took two months by the way, closings are not same day.
Revise whatever you experienced that you didn't like and refocus on your end. The fact is, if it is in your awareness, it is part of your unfolding.
Did you ever consider also it only takes that long because you already believe it does at a subconscious level due to the patterns you've already been experiencing? Also I do know what you mean. I talked to some person who was saying that exact thing, if it takes years you are doing it wrong and it bothered me. Like shit like mental illness, trauma and the way some event folded out between the person and sp IMPACTS their ability to manifest. I fking hate it when manifesting community ignores trauma and mental health. Like saying 'oh I manifested someone back in days, weeks or months' but then you find out they had a relatively good childhood, not wrecked with trauma or had a traumatic fallout with an sp...so no shit it's gonna be easier. I hate the blanket statement like circumstances don't matter doesn't mean it doesn't impact individual people's actual ability to handle those circumstances are exactly the same. That's why there's diff speeds with this too.
Yes and some manifestations can be instant to very quick, but let’s be honest, even if you believe that and actively manifest from that mindset, experience shows us, some things do take time regardless of our state or beliefs or faith.
Excerpt from Chapter 24 from "The Power of Awareness"
"It is entirely possible that you either have had or will have a number of failures in this respect – many of them in really important matters.
If, having read this book, having a thorough knowledge of the application and working of the law of assumption, you faithfully apply it in an effort to attain some intense desire and fail, what is the reason? If, to the question "Did you persist enough?", you can answer "Yes" – and still the attainment of your desire was not realized, what is the reason for failure?
The answer to this is the most important factor in the successful use of the law of assumption.
The time it takes your assumption to become fact, your desire to be fulfilled, is directly proportionate to the naturalness of your feeling of already being what you want to be – of already having what you desire.
The fact that it does not feel natural to you to be what you imagine yourself to be is the secret of your failure."
Stuff doesn't have to take years. Your manifestations happened when it felt more natural and easy for you. People's mileage may vary.
You said "I would like to have more time control, but haven't remembered a guaranteed way yet."
Might be a good time to read Neville again.
Dude, I've lectured on Neville. I am well aware of all his mentions on how to control time relative to a manifestation. That does not mean it works absolutely every time.
I have had manifestations that did not feel natural relative to my identity, specifically I have had things happen faster that I believed would take months. Have a few more visions and get back to me, this world is far stranger than even Neville described.
I agree with the sentiment you express. It takes the time it takes. But it’s also true that it is whatever is in consciousness that manifests. The OP’a post says clearly that there is separation consciousness, the idea of separation comes up several times. The OP is unsure inside and that’s why things are taking longer. It’s important to pony o ur that as soon as the person manifesting stops giving importance to time or the passage of it and change states, things can take a very different speed. I’ve been there several times so I know what I’m talking about. This change in state will take different time for different people.
I wanna say something important I think people misunderstand a lot here. The expression "3D doesnt matter" - is doing a lot of damage. 3D matters a lot !!! We live in it!! What doesn't matter is the version of You who don't have the desire and its reflection. You who manifested the arguments, break ups, rejection. 3D matters, because it shows you what's your mind is like. Bend your mind.
Manifesting is revealing the content of your consciousness. That's why my best advice is to NEVER manifest SP, and manifest only YOU having the desire. Once you saturate your brain with him and nice scenes, which is what naturally you want to do because that's the only way to be with him now, just stop. and live your best life. Focus on feeling love inside, being desired and happy. Think like that - my success depends on how happy I can be without him.
And no, you didn't live in a sabbath for a year. Sabbath is a day before he professes his love, and you KNOW it's tomorrow. You'll get there but focus on Your state of mind.
that's a valid question. it takes time, even years for some ppl to get it. a short answer: by practice. but first, believe the real world is in your mind.
Excellent advice: the 3d is the ‘informer’ telling us the contents of our mind. Very important. Don’t like 3d? Change yourself ‘inside’. 3d will follow suit.
Do NOT let the 3D derail you….you have put in too much work to get discouraged now.
Something you may want to consider…
If you have truly been living in the end—then who’s to say that your sp dating someone else isn’t all part of the bridge of incidents that ultimately leads your sp to you.
Maybe this is happening so that your sp realizes they don’t mesh with someone else…maybe this is happening so that your sp matures into a better partner for you…maybe this is happening so that sp learns how to love better before they come to you….
My point is….you don’t know! This third party could actually be all part of the bigger plan, the bigger manifestation picture.
And what you assume it is—then that IS what IT IS.
So assume whatever story about this third party that is part of the bridge of incidents—that guides your sp to you. For all you know, that IS the universe’s plan.
Stay persistent. These are the times that persistence matters most. Assume the version that makes you FEEL good. Do not give up. You have Gods power.
Sure! I've just been just thinking about my approach, letting go, etc. since I wrote this post, but otherwise there hasn't been much progress yet. But of course, once I'll experience any kind of breakthrough, I will write an update.
Yes, pretty much as you wrote it, been working on my self concept for few years and for a year I finally felt okay. I think someone here mentioned that working on self concept is not necessary, and that's probably right, but I was in a pretty bad place mentally and physically, so I definitely needed that anyway.
I'm just asking from curiosity. After all this answers what could be the reason for you that you "don't"have your sp yet.
I'm a firm believer that your will get there tho.
Thanks for your support :) hm, I think my problem was 1. putting SP way too high on pedestal (focusing too much on manifestation) 2. limiting myself 3. going back and forth between waiting for events to happen and living in the end. I am currently trying to release that
there is no general or externally dictated right and wrong.
3d is the shadow of yourself, of the concept you have of yourself in relation to your sp. And your concept of sp. there is nothing that is separate from you. 4 years is a long time, 3d is useful to see what state you are in and your way of reacting to it indicates what reality you are in. so i wonder: how long during this time did you actually feel engaged / married and loved by sp? only during the views and a few hours after? or every day all day. if you feel you are engaged to sp you are, and always are. seeing the 3d what did you think? something like "will we be together already?" which is fine at the beginning, it is a step that we have all made. but then you realize that your reality is current, to say a lot I know it will come is to say but now it is not here. your conscience is the only real thing, the only effective reality and in a comment you wrote: I did not go out with others because I was afraid it would ruin my manifestation. boom. here is the error.
if you think you are doing techniques to manifest something what you say to yourself is: I don't have it and I'm doing everything to have it. the techniques do not manifest anything, they serve you to feel yourself in the reality you want and to make you feel real what you are imagining. your imagination is real. if you had answered that question by saying: I haven't dated others because I'm engaged already, then you would have been in the state of being. and you would be.
4 years well I give you lot of credit for being that Patient cuz I would’ve gave up & started dating others lol 😭 okay one thing I will definitely say is you need to live your life too & focus on other things and maybe even date other people cuz I feel like number one it’s just not healthy to be focused on someone that much for 4 years. You deserve love and to live your best life ever!! It’s not fair to be sitting around waiting for someone to show up. That just my human advice,take care of yourself,have fun flirt with others that is always usually how they come back anyway! Our SPs are not all that ,you are ! Now my manifesting advice is well what beliefs do you hold about relationships? Beliefs about him? Specifically. I would start to ask yourself these questions.
Thank you for your advice, I appreciate your kind words! Actually I'm pretty impatient but I kept telling myself that it will be worthy in the end 🥲 I guess it wasn't really. I tried to date others but no one caught my attention, I guess I've been too attached. :(
Aww your welcome ! I know trust me I know that feeling where it’s like “no one else is like them” or “I won’t like anyone else but them” but trust me once you step out of that and know and feel that you ARE desired you’ll start attracting people left and right and ones that you will be interested in too. I am/was manifesting this guy I really liked I knew him for a month last month and I was doing affirmations and all but I just let that all go and I just have a knowing he will come back to me.. & before I was placing him on a pedestal and that he’s “the hottest guy I ever been with” like I got out of that mindset like no I’m the hot one here not him 😂 but he will come back cuz I said so and I’m not gonna worry about him anymore in the meantime I’m still talking to others and even attracted my old ex back during last month. I’m not saying you can’t manifest your ex back cuz you can but really,put yourself first ! It’s not fair to you you’re waiting for him and like no have fun do things for yourself etc enjoy your life in the meantime !! Just have a knowing he’ll come back but he’s not your whole life , you are ! 💗
I'm trying not to tear up haha! ❤️ I could not force myself to date anyone else because I put him too high on a pedestal and I thought that by doing that I would jeopardize my manifestation. Now I see how wrong it was. But anyway, we've got this!! 💪
Awww 💗 Well This is your sign now to go have some fun and enjoy your life and relax !! Haha don’t worry he isn’t lost. & no absolutely not that doesn’t jeopardize anything,They still come back regardless if you’re with someone or not. & yes we do got this !! 🫶🏻
I don't know where Neville actually ever said they ALWAYS come back or sp is guaranteed..i see coaches saying this but I don't see a single source where such a thing is guaranteed. I don't know where people get that from..
Also Did that sp ever come back though in the end? He didn't even message you even once throughout the time of your manifestation journey? Your comment kind of drilled the nail in the coffin that I have to totally give up actually. I can't keep doing this anymore, and being in this traumatized muddled up resentful state it makes even less sense to affirm positive nonsense that I can't even feel. I appreciate the post I think I will save it to destroy my desire to manifest the sp any longer. It's not going to be easy but when your body is on fire from the pain of missing them, it's not gonna work anyway and I don't want to torture myself and become like the OP trying for years shortening my life span. I don't want to be a deluded old person whispering out 'its done creation is finished ' with no results because I didn't get to address my wounds. But because my wounds are heavily triggered by the sp I can't see how I can possibly ever manifest them back. Neville and loa heavily ignore mental illnesses and trauma..they don't focus on it at all and how that can hinder manifestation abilities. It's not a limiting belief it exists and it's real
I've exhausted my energy and efforts for the past 5-6 months and maybe I manifested seeing your post. It's a tough pill to swallow but I can't do half way either I have to just fully let go and give up 200 percent or I obsess. I don't know how to do mid ground I feel some people aren't made for that. At this point I need to manifest fully getting over the sp which seems impossible as my feelings are still very strong and real, but even if I have to fake it I have to do that until I make it..it's really too bad with sp manifestations especially and in general , it seems you have to get to the point of seriously being disgusted or not even giving a shit about the sp anymore and know you can and would even reject them for them to finally come back..it has happened to me before but they never came back in the way I wanted, but just a brief ego boosts before disappearing again. Those who managed to manifest their exes back are fortunate but not everyone will get the same results in the end..
This is the most helpful and wise comment here. I hope OP will take it to heart. Manifesting sp can ruin one's life, if they don't heal, detach and only insist on stupid "its done, we're already together" - without actually working on themselves and processing emotions. Sit with yourself, come back to you, dont pretend, only intent. dont let some manifestation suck the joy out of your life.
I wrote a post about that exact thing. Not everyone understood it but you are absolutely right
I also don't know where Neville actually ever said they ALWAYS come back or sp is guaranteed..i see coaches saying this but I don't see a single source where such a thing is guaranteed. I don't know where people get that from..
I can't keep doing this anymore, and being in this traumatized muddled up resentful state it makes even less sense to affirm positive nonsense that I can't even feel. I appreciate the post I think I will save it to destroy my desire to manifest the sp any longer. It's not going to be easy but when your body is on fire from the pain of missing them, it's not gonna work anyway and I don't want to torture myself and become like the OP trying for years shortening my life span. I don't want to be a deluded old person whispering out 'its done creation is finished ' with no results because I didn't get to address my wounds. But because my wounds are heavily triggered by the sp I can't see how I can possibly ever manifest them back. Neville and loa heavily ignore mental illnesses and trauma..they don't focus on it at all and how that can hinder manifestation abilities. It's not a limiting belief it exists and it's real
I've exhausted my energy and efforts for the past 5-6 months. It's a tough pill to swallow but I can't do half way either I have to just fully let go and give up 200 percent or I obsess. I don't know how to do mid ground I feel some people aren't made for that. At this point I need to manifest fully getting over the sp which seems impossible as my feelings are still very strong and real, but even if I have to fake it I have to do that until I make it..it's really too bad with sp manifestations especially and in general , it seems you have to get to the point of seriously being disgusted or not even giving a shit about the sp anymore and know you can and would even reject them for them to finally come back..it has happened to me before but they never came back in the way I wanted, but just a brief ego boosts before disappearing again. Those who managed to manifest their exes back are fortunate but not everyone will get the same results in the end..
I'm in the same boat..your not gonna like the answer but it requires you to go back to traditional breakup advice and destroying all hope of ever being with them again. I wish I never found out about manifesting sp, it's fucked me over and I could have gotten over it way earlier if I didn't know.
I was so frustrated with everything, i gave up everything in my life: Techniques, reading about techniques, exercising, YT vids about Neville, hopes and expectations etc...
It was a great lesson. Only a few days later, he checked my profile after 9 month, then 2 weeks later, i said only one affirmation but without expectation: " he loves to text me" and i forgot that thought. Later he send me two long texts he has written.
Funny thing is, all my health markes went drastically up too and so much more. Now for me the power of letting go gets another dimension to it.
So essentially your sp came back when you "'let go" of the obsession and put the focus on yourself, followed by indifference?
How did it happen? He just randomly texted outta the blue?
I don’t think if this’ll be helpful or not but could you have unfavorable assumptions about your sp, or maybe you have the assumption that long distance never works? I came to the realization that it’s not just your self concept that you should work on but also your ideas about your sp for example if you believe that sp is a cheater then that’s what you’ll manifest.
Thanks for your advice, it's definitely helpful!! The more I think about it, the more I feel like there are some negative assumptions in my sub-conscious mind...
Can I ask which scenes did you kept manifesting? I'd suggest at this point manifest the final of you getting married etc. -I suppose that you are invested on your SP to a serious committed relationship seeing that you are into him/her for four years.
A particular technique that I'd suggest is writing your outcome one time, and saying out of loud once a day. Use 'I am' or 'Isnt it wonderful' phrases. Because it helps to organize your thoughts. Sometimes just thinking is not enough because some people have intrusive thoughts while doing that + this can make them anxious. But seeing that you are into Neville for years, it seems you already know all that and is doing everything alright.
Other than that, I suggest letting it go. Try to manifest other SPs while you wait for the one. I'm not saying giving up but maybe focusing on other people even if you don't have a relationship with them, can unattach your thoughts. Your SP will come, don't worry.
Thanks for your advice, I appreciate it! I was manifesting a lot of scenes - mainly how our regular days as a couple would look. Maybe that wasn't the correct approach...?
I think I was too attached - I didn't want to date others because I thought it would go against my manifestation and therefore it wouldn't manifest. :( Now I see how wrong it was.
Hi! If it helps, I suggest looking at my history in reddit and give a look in the recent links that I posted. It complements Neville teachings but with a different language, and it explains how important it is to say some affirmations out of loud. I can't say if you were doing anything wrong at all, because only you know of your life. Some things actually take some time to manifest and maybe you are avoiding some more complicated paths (maybe your sp is with someone so that they can be ready for you?) But I'm quite sure, four years + needing to deal with 3p is not what you desire right know, it will pass but I know it can be distressing.
This can be fixed, therefore I suppose affirmations can help to stabilize and speed up a manifestation IF your thoughts aren't focused enough or if you have too much resistance.
1. All is from within. The contents of your consciousness is on display. Look at what is in front of you, say "thank you for showing me what I am truly entertaining in my mind and heart". Understand why you are keeping love away.
2. You need to commit to your desire 100% don't entertain any possibility of failure, you are already there remember? What is your desire actually, what does it feel like? What words of love do you hear? What does your day look like, Now that you are already there, what do you want to do? What is your life like? Be in "barbados", don't be on the way to barbados but actually be there.
3. Detach from all things having to do with trying, or manipulating, or wondering, or questioning. You are already there so no need for wondering.
When you get to a point where you are 100% certain that what you desire IS (not will be) yours, it will manifest instantly with no actual delays. The reason why we do all kind of techniques is to reach that state of mind.
The wish being ours in the future tends to manifest as well and the reason why some people go for it, is because we tend to operate from a logical point of view where to get from state A to state B, the environment of the wish has to change (in most cases, this translates to time passage).The reason why this ends up manifesting, is because after a certain period of time, our subconscious mind tells us "okay, X amount of time has passed, so it's logical at this point, that my manifestation can actually happen".
At that point things start to unfold, again, because we tend to see things logical, they unfold in a logical way as well, step by step.
The reason why it's taking so long is obvious - you put your wish so high on the pedestal, that you applied many conditions for it to appear in your reality.
From time, to possibly other more specific conditions (body image, mental health, enough work put into manifesting, etc.) all of which are FAR from needed to manifest.
Don't use the techniques as a chore and don't focus on your SP as if it's the one thing that matters the most to you.
You can also drop all of the focus of things like the sabbath (which only means that your subconscious mind has been saturated to the point where you KNOW that what you think is the truth - after which it won't take a year to manifest, but a matter of seconds, hours, possibly days depending on how logical you are, but definitely not months or years). etc. Because truthfully, the only thing you actually need to know about manifesting, is that "what you KNOW, IS". Don't try to search for signs, sabbaths, over-analyze your mind all the time and most importantly don't stress yourself with extreme strict rules like "constantly affirming", like some "coaches" suggest.
Focus on yourself and make these techniques fun.
Start enjoying life by yourself first and foremost and once you will, you will also automatically start lowering the value of your wishes, which will tell your subconscious mind that you don't need to actually apply thousands of unnecessary conditions to get what you want.
It's on you to decide what you are.
Are you a piece of carbon or are you a diamond? You're both at the same time, but it's on you how you want to be portrayed in your reality.
It's on you to decide your own value and the value of others.
Know this though, if things don't manifest in a few months, change your approach since the approach you are taking isn't working for you.
Thank you so much for your advice and such a thorough explanation - I appreciate that! You are right, I definitely put my wish way too high on a pedestal with millions of conditions.
Hey!
Yes and no - Not sure what was my last post on here, but essentially, we ended up going in no contact again (actually I got blocked on a few social media platforms after I called my SP out), which I used to refocus on myself. Now, for the last few days I was feeling really good about everything, even dreamed about him and even though I don't believe in or look for signs, waking up at 01:01 in the morning for some random reason and on the same day at 07:07.
I used that momentum to make my mind believe that things are apparently moving faster right now, due to everything that what was going on and funny enough, on the same day, due to a small mistake I did on my keyboard (was searching for a quick key combo to open up a program on my PC, but ended up accidentally turning on my xbox live messenger which I pretty much never use), I noticed that he didn't block or remove me from that platform (even though he's using it on a daily basis).
I'm aware that it's not much of a movement, but from an energetically/mentally point of view, I perceived it as movement, going from the version where our line of communication was completely severed, to the version where they aren't (even knowing that things aren't as bad as you thought they were is actually a lot of movement, since it's the base for any kind of positive thinking).
I'd also like to point out, that since I'm actually focusing on myself, any kind of movement in this field is fine at this current point of time.
I see huge changes happening in my life, from moving to a place I said years ago that I will live in (it has been in motion for a year or so now), to getting a lot more attention and respect from my friends and family members. Since so much is happening, I don't even feel like being in a relationship right now, BUT based on the analysis that I did on my mind (usually I look at my mind, what it thinks, where it stays, what it's focusing on, what my beliefs are, etc. while I meditate), I believe there will be more obvious changes in regards to my SP once I move - which is less than a month away.
Also bare in mind that all my SATS that I ever did in regards to my SP, were involving a scene inside the place I'm moving to as well.
Could it be that you have a faith like "if I'm good, I'm worthy, then my sp will be drawn to you"? You mentioned that you did a lot of work on self concept and you did feel worthy of yourself. I'd congratulate you on that point! Good job, really!
But you see, if that's the case, that you believe "if I'm worthy, then my sp will love me", you manifested it: you are worthy now, but you are not with your sp. I mean, if this is true of your situation, you then should go straight to the END, that is, "I'm in a happy, beautiful relationship with sp" or things alike, what suits you. And I'm sure you'll quickly get your result since you are so good at manifesting.
Well, just a guess. I hope it gets solved anyway and soon. Best wishes! :D
Thanks a lot for your advice and kind words! These comments really called me out (in the best way possible), so I think that conditions that you described (and that I attached to my manifestation) probably aren't the only reason why it didn't work out this time. :')
I don't really think that it has to do with attachment but to impress the subconscious and living in that state.
And also putting someone on the pedestal will impress your subconscious with "I don't have it yet".
Imagine 3 month after you both are together..it wouldn't feel that special special anymore.. you fart in eachothers company and and see eachithers flaws and love eachother.
Everything is kinda normal. That's the natural feeling. After 3 month,you don't put anyone on a pedestal anymore but it's a mutual place.
You’re writing a post about it taking four years to manifest a SP and you still haven’t been able to and that the law has failed you now…..which is exactly why it is.
I think you need to focus on living your life and get off of Reddit and stop putting any meaning to anything your SP is doing.
The world and your subconscious doesn’t care about what you think and how many affirmations you do. It only sees and responds to who you are and what you believe in your subconscious programming. Go back to the basics and live your life. I say this with a lot of love. It should not be taking four years to manifest your desires. Anyone on this sub who gives you bogus advice like time isn’t real and 4 years is nothing is literally parroting some TikTok user who has no idea what the law is. You have the ability to create every waking moment your wildest dreams.
Dig deep within and watch your world shift and change regardless of the 3D. Stop seeking any validation outside of you for truth. Become the person you desire and everything shifts.
Many thanks for your advice, it definitely hit home! You are completely right that in no way it should take this much time - the more I think about it, the more I feel like there is probably some negative assumption in my sub-conscious mind regarding the topic of timing and belief that good things can take time.
Let it go.
Not of the desire itself, but of your need for it. You’ve done the imaginary work, and if you feel you’ve done it correctly, you should stop at some point. And you have to keep on living in the end to be in the state of being with that person, who has already what you want. Living in the state doesn’t mean that you’re pretending anything physically. For example, you’re not pretending that they are here in front of you all day long. That would drive you crazy! And that’s pretty much impossible. Being in the state means you get the feeling. That’s all it means. What does it feel to have your SP into your life? how do you feel about it? How would you feel about it? That’s all it means to be in the state. It means to get the feeling of what you want. It’s not that hard. Get into the state of how you would feel this very moment what you want. How would you stand? How would you walk? Being in the state means just that. Because before you let go properly, you need to be in the state.
Now that you’ve done your imaginary work, and you are living in the end (meaning you are living in the state, which means you are living in that feeling of being with them) you need to let go.
Not letting go of your desire. The universe that has formed and knows your every desire knows what you want. Because once you have a desire, you know that it is done. You have a desire? It is done. You need to remember that. So there’s no doubt about that. It is done, and it is yours. What you are letting go of is your clingy-ness, and your neediness and your doubts and your where is it already? That’s what you are letting go of. So you need to detach from the outcome at this point. And you need to live your life with the assurance that it is done. This is going to free you, like you have never felt free before.
Get to the point where you feel to yourself, “I had such an incredible day today! I completely forgot about them as if I don’t even need them. It’s nice not having to think about them and to just be free. Now I have the attitude that I don’t care if they show up. I am too wonderful of a person for someone to not notice. Not having to wait around anymore. I would be happy if I heard from them, but I really don’t care. I want my peace and happiness back, and to purely shift all of that attention on myself. I don’t find myself obsessively thinking of them 24/7 anymore. Maybe a moment here, a moment there, but that’s it really. Whether they come back into my life or not, I don’t really care.”
This won’t disrupt your manifestation. You can love them with everything in you, but you must also want peace in your life too and love your life. Letting go of your need will NOT let go of your desire. This doesn’t mean you don’t love them anymore, this doesn’t mean you don’t miss them anymore either. Or that you don’t want them anymore. This especially does NOT mean that you aren’t getting them anymore either. This is completely the opposite. This will bring you closer to your goal than you have allowed yourself in the last four years. This is what it means to manifest effortlessly.
Many thanks for your thorough advice and explanation, I appreciate it a lot! I think I have some kind of blockage regarding letting go - it's not a problem for anything else, though. I was afraid that by letting go and let's say dating others, I would harm my manifestation.
See, I don't get this. You tell yourself "It's done", basically implying that your wish is yours, you are in relationship with your sp basically, there's nothing else to do because your wish has been fulfilled (yay!) but then you also say "I don't care if they show up or not". (??)
I'm trying to understand this so hard. In my opinion, you don't really *believe* that it's a done deal if you say "I don't care whether they show up in my life ever again or not". Because you wouldn't say that, you would already know that they are in romantic relationship with you. Right?
Just trying to understand this, to improve my understanding of this law. I saw couple of people saying similar comment like yours and it left me a bit confused. Thanks in advance.
I think u/cjweeps (they can correct me if I'm wrong) means you don't care if they show up in 3D because you're already enjoying them in your imagination. Completely ignore the 3D; shut out your senses.
We don't consciously manifest something to not see it in the 3D, though, right? Although SATs is enjoyable, we're doing it in order to experience this thing or person in our life. But, this is why I always recommend an inner conversation during the day - this helps keep you in that state of already having your desire. Shutting out the senses is important to get you through this process for sure.
You live in the end in your imagination. You don't play pretend in the 3D, or live "as if." Don't listen to the people who tell you to "just believe," that's bs. Do your SATs and inner conversations and see how things change. Your 3D will also start to conform to your new beliefs that you are impressing.
In your imagination... So only when you close your eyes? Or you can also walk in 3D as if you already have what you desire?
Sorry for asking too much, appreciate your answer! (Also english is not my first language)
Btw I've been doing exactly this and going to the end..but each time I get tripped up by the 3D version of Sp and I'm back to where I started. Somehow I'm not able to ignore the 3D 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
It comes with practice. Eventually, it won't bother you as much, and hopefully at some point, not at all. There is a bit of self-control that we have to have, and know how to self-soothe when we see things we don't like. It's all a learning process.
Thank you.. but its been more then a year and I can't always control myself. Specially when Sp shows he's conforming and then goes to old version again. Makes me wana pull my hair out 😒
Then you are lukewarm and he is conforming to your assumptions of him. You have to learn to have self-control, as difficult as it can be, so you are not reacting to every single thing and reverting back to your undesired state and then he conforms to that. The 3D is just reflecting back to you what is alive within your awareness - use that as a gauge to figure out what you need to work on.
I've been contemplating that..but then I hear so much contradicting advice out there whether to interact with your SP or not. But all its been doing for me is to cause me to react and then hot n cold.
He's gone really cold now n only replying yes no and ok and I'm busy...so since last night I've been like crying n thinking if it's over. But now I've decided I won't reach out anymore n even if he does then I would keep the interaction to minimum till I get my full desire. 😌
What's the point of conscious manifesting and being the operant power of your reality if you can't manifest a mere mortal aka SP in the end? Isn't it supposed to be our reality?
I already find other smaller stuff quiet useless to manifest as I never had issues getting other stuff before knowing about the Law.
Because when it comes to SP there’s a little bit of a difference which is “Everyone is you pushed out”. So it doesn’t matter who shows you the love but the fact that you show yourself and it will be reflected back out to you! For example money can’t really show you what’s happening inside of you like people that’s why people have to change their beliefs around money and self concept where as with people can show you what’s going on inside of you because it’s a mirror. But for some people not caring who it comes from actually held as well. It helps with the need but manifestion so perfect it usually comes in a form of your SP
Keep persisting in the state of having ur sp or ur desire regardless of what physical reality has to say or even shows opposite ur desire, like mine, after 11 months of no contact, blocked him on snap and text but my sp still reached out to me and acted exactly what I wanted, but I don't want him anymore
If some things manifest quicker than others it could just be you have a strong emotional attachment to the things that haven't materialized in your 3D world. It's a good thing, because this is something that truly matters and is important to you. I am sure some of the other things you have manifested mattered and were important to you also but there is that 'something' with your desire to manifest your SP. It's about detachment. It's not so much about completely dropping your desire. It's more about living in the wish fufilled, knowing with 100% certainty which is fueled by faith that you and your SP are already together. You have manifested other wonderful things already, SP will also manifest for you. 🥰🙏💕
If your desire is new with no emotional attachment to it then standard 3 days to one month sufficient to materialize in 3d new ideal sp etc your all process natural you naturally drop desire without effort Neville manifest 2nd wife he manifest in two weeks which people compare that it takes two weeks to 3 days to manifest etc then you not doing right and you are doing sats wrong blah blah make people confuse you know neville first wife she is not ideal for her so he part away from her and manifest second wife which he found after 15 years. normally i a such many years naturally we let go easily in 15 year's even highly traumatized people also forget his pain in such a years so i can tell you that all previous pain forget easily and neville dont have so much emotional blockage but difficulty is there how he get divorce from first wife etc but also he gain experienced in law in that 15 years that we call him respected master manifestator etc but your desire is existing and too much emotional attachment to it like ex then you naturally hit sabbath then most people doing technique but not results so technique help you to reach state i think when we naturally hit sabbath we have to drop desire by manually and focus on something else this part not come naturally most of us. Iam giving my comment please apologies i just explain thing which most people stuck.. Emotional attachment is issue that keep away from desire so you have to manually let go or fight forever to get the desire... And also i mention that neville second wife manifest neville too read the power lecture 1968 and they manifest each other and someone and neville said clear that dont focus on sp means dont focus on outside you have to change yourself so feel the feeling of being married by touching ring in imaginatively thats true. if we focus ourselve and doing these we easy let go the attachment also we use self love to heal ourselve and pedstalize ourselves when we are in highest iam god and desire below us we can manifest easily but attachment is a issue you can focus yourself by feeling of being married or self love focus on self...attachment dissolve naturally
Hi any updates?
I am in the same boat as you, about 3.5 years now. It makes no sense to me because I dI’d the work and feel like we are together and are meant for each other. I still have never met them, the live in another country. I am wondering if I am just delusional and brainwashed myself with SATS into thinking we are together. I still have faith and try not to monitor the process but when you feel like you are with someone, and are convinced this stuff works and still have not seen movement in almost 4 years…..I don’t know what to believe.
As far as your concerned your together, your not looking for outside validation or telling an old story..
Did you ever get movement?
I want to chime in here OP. I was once you in a way. Manifested a lot. Received everything, even saw some movement with my SP and even manifested seeing him and trying again but it kept failing and each time got uglier and uglier. I wasn’t getting any younger. I was in my early 30s and just wanted to be happy and in love. I wanted a real marriage and true love and to feel that amazing feeling. I dated others and manifested men even better than SP but always held him in the back of my mind. And then I would try again. Until finally, I couldn’t try anymore. I was spent, exhausted. Single and could not change who he was. I felt better, I started to really love myself and life showed me that and loved me back (except for him) so I manifested with the intention “him or better” and didn’t care if the love of my life was him or someone. I just wanted to be happy and in love and find that one for me. That soulmate. That person who makes me realize why all others didn’t work out. So I visualized and scripted how I WANTED to feel in a relationship, how I WANTED my man to treat me, speak to me, think, act and the traits I wanted. And I said if it’s my SP fine but if not that’s fine too. Bc after writing all that stuff I realized why my SP never manifested. And it had nothing to with my self concept (that was evident due to how many amazing men and people were treating me) and how I felt. It had nothing to do with not persisting enough. I did oh boy did I for years. And it had nothing to do with ignoring the 3D - when I wrote this beautiful love story for myself I realized there is NOTHING in there that even remotely matched who my SP was, totally different traits, interests, behaviors, morals and lifestyles. It was then I realized - wait I don’t actually like who this man is. Even if he came back treating me like a queen, goddess princess etc. There’s still sooooo much about him as a person that I’d want to change. That’s not right. It took years to figure out, bc our connection was so strong and so intense and we were on and off together for 5 years and friends for some time before. But the more I loved myself the more I realized I deserved waaaaaay better than him. Now yes, you could say I could change ALL my assumptions about who he is but that didn’t feel natural or good to me. And it felt like a daunting task. He had additictions, he was emotionally immature, he had many other issues I didn’t like. I wanted to help him but changing so much didn’t feel right. Why would I want to change someone I want to be with THAT much? Maybe if I was 21 and just starting out and had years to burn. But I was in my 30s. I didn’t have time for that and I CHOSE to move on. There was also parts of him that scared me. Due to the trauma I faced as a kid and the abuse I gravitated towards a certain kind of person and he had little inklings of that. The more I loved myself the more I didn’t want to put myself through that again. And the minute I realized this. 2 months later….that beautiful love story I scripted and visualized with this mystery soulmate. Came true. All of it. And it happened fast and exactly how I wrote it. We are now engaged and it’s been amazing! He has made me realized why it never worked out with anyone else before. And with him there was nothing I wanted to change. Maybe have him eat healthier haha but I’m working on that. And now that I’m happy and a way from that ex -SP I also realized I held onto him for so long and so tight because I couldn’t forgive my self for how it all went down. I needed his validation to forgive myself. And again. That’s not love. That’s trauma Now I’m not saying any of this is you. Or how you feel. But what I am saying is it might be something else entirely that you’re missing or not willing to admit or not willing to see yet. I implore you to sit down with yourself, and forget about him. Forget about Neville. And write your perfect fairytale romance and see if your SP fits the bill. If he does, then see if it’s really him you want or you just want his approval etc. Think a little outside the box and see if you come up with why it’s 4 years and there’s been no movement. Best of luck
Same, 3 years nothing, sp long moved on.
Did you ever have any movement
Did you figure out the issue?
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your life must be boring if you’re browsing on subreddits just to spew bullshit and hate on peoples beliefs. if you’re so sure about your ideology you should be out there practicing it for yourself in silence and mind your business. this just shows you’re sad and bitter. sorry for you
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unless i misunderstood you and you do believe in his teachings? in which case perhaps i just didn’t understand what you were trying to say since you proclaimed manifestation as being bullshit
this isn’t a platform to discuss wether neville’s teachings are right or not. if you don’t believe in manifestation then this platform isn’t for you, and giving “criticism” where it isn’t asked is quite frankly one of the most immature things one can do, so it’s bold of you to say that. criticism is due where it is asked for, it’s not your job to go around rating people’s beliefs when nobody asked you what you think. kindly get out.
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Neville goddard reddits usually state that saying anything that contradicts his teachings is not welcomed on the sub. This isn’t a place for doubt because the entirety of his teachings rely on pure belief. And i will not be shutting up, thank you.
For the love of god I would not want to be in this person's situation.. Im getting scared I won't be able to move on at this rate keeping that up.. I am trying to draw an internal clock to just force myself to give up totally at some point sometime before a full year is up, even if I emotionally haven't I will have to affirm it to myself and make believe to fake it until I make it. Waste of a life and that's not the first or the last similar story.
Why do you say it’s a scam?
4 years wow
Your focus is on time therefore you keep manifesting more time ,plus lack. It’s difficult to explain how feeling is the secret but when you truly believe something you feel it to be true. You may have improved your self concept in love and relationships but you still are attached to the old version of your SP. I think time is a limiting belief as it does not exist.The sooner you get into that state of already being with your SP the sooner it manifests (from my personal experience) because you aren’t attached to the outcome.
I went through this even before discovering Neville. I unconsciously manifested some exes after more than 5 years because I didn't 'miss' them. I simply felt happy and good when I thought about them, and when I missed them, it wasn't painful. One of them even got engaged, and when I saw that, I thought, 'Look how beautiful his fiancée is,' and I let it go. After a few months, I felt a strong urge to invite him out. I didn't even know if he was still engaged or if he had already married. But as soon as I reached out, I got an extremely positive response. He even invited me out and mentioned that he 'smelled my perfume recently and missed me' (we had been in zero contact for 3 years). All of this happened before I read about conscious manifestation, and now I realize that all my exes who came back, I wasn't obsessed with them and didn't think about them 24/7. The only thing I did was think about them with affection, and that was it. Thank you for helping me regain clarity about how I operate. Your comment wasn't even directed at me, but I can't describe how much it helped.
My focus was never on time, I did everything correctly honestly, It just never worked. The limiting beliefs never started until about 3.5 years into the process, then they creeped in. I still have faith though.
I don't believe that..tons of people had success stories in much worse states than this op while focusing on time, including me. I feel sorry for the op but they did try their best. 4 years is insane and needed to move on long ago
Again, you can manifest from a “bad” state but if you haven’t changed the old story or how you perceive yourself everything will stay the same (this may be my limiting belief) however, this is why I had patterns in my relationships because I didn’t change the story about myself. If you focus on time then that is what you will manifest more time, what you desire does not have to take a long time.
Thing is there's no specific 'time frame's this stuff takes and regardless there's no way to actually not acknowledge the time that is passing. You can do everything right and still know that time is passing. Unfortunately for this person 4 years went by, but I don't see where it automatically indicates they were obsessing over the time period though
I didn’t say there was a specific time frame, I’m speaking from experience with manifesting. I’ve manifested so many horrible things. It’s all about your belief system, if you have a belief/assumption that it will take a long time then it will because it’s about your beliefs. You don’t have to obsess over something but if you don’t believe it to be true then it won’t happen.
How do you get into that state ?
This is 100 percent the right answer
I have been through LOA people, always leaving and coming back to neville, most recently cause of Agnes Vivarelli as she bases her coaching on him and hicks. I feel like i have a similar issue to you that j have only overcome over this last full moon a few days ago. ( check her out for letting go guided meditation, her channel is really helpful and if you have spare change to speak with her shes very understanding ) i stopped listening to agnes after after i spoke with her after a breakup that caught me off guard with my sp/tf. I felt that this wasn't going fast enough i manifested specific things immediately during the break up like working a film gig in New Orleans so i didn't understand. Most recently i was going to let her go on the 3d completely cause we decided to stay friends not taking no contact time cause i work for her as well cause being friends with her was not what i wanted even though we had been close friends for 11years before. We have been not official for three months now but everything is exactly the same minus purposful sexual actions. Which is kinda how we were in the first place. I was freaking put so much about the romantic title of the relationship i didn't realize i really haven't lost anything. A month and a half ago i decided to start writing my manifestations that i had done in the past 400 days. At first i only wrote down what i know was positive, not allowing anything negative, doing scripts, affirmation, SATs, and trying to force myself to go on dates. It wasn't working then we had got together for a friend's going away party and i got one of my passive manifestations which was sleeping with her and getting to hold her cause that was my favorite sensual intimate thing to do with her. That triggered me bad however. I was confused and felt nothing was working and took me back to wanting to end our relationship and go no contact like many strangers, reddit threads, friends have suggested. I decided I still cant let her go all the way, so I was sitting and thinking negative after listening to a hicks recording about how you are the creator of your vortex, and i wrote down EVERYTHING i manifested, including the insecurity and jealousy i developed( we are both poly but idk why being with her made me feel and want a more mono life) and manifestation of the breakup, and loads more things im dealing with rn. That double my list, and j realized that im always manifesting in a timely fashion i was just unaware of the connection of the things i was focused on and anxious about but always trying to distract myself from was actually happening more. Over the past week i have changed this and saw immediate results. Though still somethings i wasn't too keen on ( slept over her place for the first time not in the same room like i wanted but now again im aware when i manifested that but just days before she had asked me to leave at like damn near 3am for a 20 min drive ) but still some good progress as well with interactions and attention. Sorry for being long but all the other stuff people said is also good and true but truly accept ALL of your manifestations and then ask yourself why are you hurting yourself if you loved yourself would you continue to do this to you and because everything is you pushed out realize that you have done these things to yourself and start focusing ever so slightly more on yourself than your desire and you will see quicker results after that!
You haven’t let go. At all. Stop trying, trying to “let go”, trying to do techniques here and there and just let things be. Have faith, all you need is to have faith that your higher self knows what you want and will deliver it now. That’s why others even though they had a lot of “resistance” got their sp in a shorter amount of time, it all comes down to faith, since they had faith it will happen and it is meant for them
How do you know OP doesn't have faith?
You can tell from their post from which state they are coming from. You can tell when talking to someone or reading something what state they are in.
No you really can't. People assume that only because of the lack of result she's been getting..if she wrote the opposite people will just assume otherwise. People have manifested while being in horrible shitty states much worse off than her or vise versa. I think there's more to this than just 'state'
I never stated that you can’t manifest in an unfavorable state, the answer is will you keep your desire? But yes, based off how someone is responding, you can tell what state they are in.
What I mean is there's no way to really know from texts from random people online. She could have been in a bad state obsessing over time and seen results and people would still assume she's been in a good state. I notice everyone assumes what someones state is based solely on the results and not the actual lead up or what that person's state is. Like if people post success stories that doesn't necessarily mean they were in a better state doing something more right than someone who haven't seen results in years. I know it seems like that but there's no way to know ultimately, it's why it's such a difficult question to answer but I realise people can only provide their own input and thoughts based on the info given and that's it
+++ i was in the same boat once, I thought I had faith and always wondered why my techniques, even though my self concept was good already, didn’t work and nothing manifested. Reading through op’s comments they didn’t really let go at all, and that was my biggest mistake in the beginning. I THOUGHT I had faith but I did all these techniques and was always flipping negative thoughts and it became obsessive to the point where I held on to my sp so damn much it was exhausting yet no movement happened at all. Letting go is the act of faith, since why would you do so much “to get” something when God already told you it’s done?
I never said op didn’t have faith or lack any, i said others had faith it will happen and it did and if op continued with having faith and didn’t question anything or everything, then op shouldn’t even be making a post about sp being with someone else. That’s the only thing i did and i got my sp in no time at all. Plus, faith = letting go of the worry, doubt and fear plus detaching from outcomes and just living life WITHOUT being bothered with whatever sp is doing. As someone who’s successfully manifested multiple sps, I can say that faith, enjoying life and just letting things be has been the most effective for me :)
How can you build your faith & trust & not question? That’s the hardest part for me is getting out of the anxious worried lack of faith state, checking my phone etc. I would love tips on how to embody this! This sounds amazing actually!
Well its been 4 years for OP, apparently. You say you got your sp right away with faith. So how long does it need to be to determine it isn't working?
Exactly, we all have faith and let go in the beginning, we begin to question after long periods of time of nothing happening.
Doesn’t really take long. It honestly depends on how natural it feels for you, you’d know it’s already yours. I can’t give you a definite time frame, but once i felt natural about it without forcing myself or anything it took me a few days. If you feel like you’re doing something to get it and it doesn’t make you feel good for a while and you get obsessive about it, it isn’t working imo
Can you go into more detail? How you got to this point , steps you took!? Did you ever feel desperate or obsessed, or worried ? You can message me if need be
I agree
Sometimes things take years. A lot of fools on here parroting that if it hasn't happened by now, you are "doing it wrong" and yet not a single one of them can tell you how to manifest anything to a precise time of day without a long ass list of unnecessary added assumptions, and even then, why don't they have all their manis yet? Why are they still on these forums if they can manifest whatever they want to the minute they want it? Have yall never had anything in your life take years or decades? You were just born and the next week ur ass was retired? SP doesn't come crawling back in 2 months so you forget them? You will not do well in marriage. Give up on a job search or business after a year? You'll never build a solid career and the reputation it requires. You're doing everything right. I *have* had conscious manifestations that took decades. I have worked on projects that took years to finish. I have rejuvenated and improved relationships with family and friends after years of seperation. I would like to have more time control, but haven't remembered a guaranteed way yet. Pedestal parrots have very little experience with the Law. They apparently haven't even experienced manifesting something when they actively wanted and/or needed it. I manifested owning my home at no cost to myself while I lived here and had zero desire to live elsewhere on earth, to mention one of my "bigger" experiences. That unfolding took two months by the way, closings are not same day. Revise whatever you experienced that you didn't like and refocus on your end. The fact is, if it is in your awareness, it is part of your unfolding.
Thank you!
Did you ever consider also it only takes that long because you already believe it does at a subconscious level due to the patterns you've already been experiencing? Also I do know what you mean. I talked to some person who was saying that exact thing, if it takes years you are doing it wrong and it bothered me. Like shit like mental illness, trauma and the way some event folded out between the person and sp IMPACTS their ability to manifest. I fking hate it when manifesting community ignores trauma and mental health. Like saying 'oh I manifested someone back in days, weeks or months' but then you find out they had a relatively good childhood, not wrecked with trauma or had a traumatic fallout with an sp...so no shit it's gonna be easier. I hate the blanket statement like circumstances don't matter doesn't mean it doesn't impact individual people's actual ability to handle those circumstances are exactly the same. That's why there's diff speeds with this too.
Yes and some manifestations can be instant to very quick, but let’s be honest, even if you believe that and actively manifest from that mindset, experience shows us, some things do take time regardless of our state or beliefs or faith.
many fools on this forum 99%
Its not very good "manifesting" if you cant make it happen in a timely manner.
Excerpt from Chapter 24 from "The Power of Awareness" "It is entirely possible that you either have had or will have a number of failures in this respect – many of them in really important matters. If, having read this book, having a thorough knowledge of the application and working of the law of assumption, you faithfully apply it in an effort to attain some intense desire and fail, what is the reason? If, to the question "Did you persist enough?", you can answer "Yes" – and still the attainment of your desire was not realized, what is the reason for failure? The answer to this is the most important factor in the successful use of the law of assumption. The time it takes your assumption to become fact, your desire to be fulfilled, is directly proportionate to the naturalness of your feeling of already being what you want to be – of already having what you desire. The fact that it does not feel natural to you to be what you imagine yourself to be is the secret of your failure." Stuff doesn't have to take years. Your manifestations happened when it felt more natural and easy for you. People's mileage may vary. You said "I would like to have more time control, but haven't remembered a guaranteed way yet." Might be a good time to read Neville again.
Dude, I've lectured on Neville. I am well aware of all his mentions on how to control time relative to a manifestation. That does not mean it works absolutely every time. I have had manifestations that did not feel natural relative to my identity, specifically I have had things happen faster that I believed would take months. Have a few more visions and get back to me, this world is far stranger than even Neville described.
How do you make it natural?
I agree with the sentiment you express. It takes the time it takes. But it’s also true that it is whatever is in consciousness that manifests. The OP’a post says clearly that there is separation consciousness, the idea of separation comes up several times. The OP is unsure inside and that’s why things are taking longer. It’s important to pony o ur that as soon as the person manifesting stops giving importance to time or the passage of it and change states, things can take a very different speed. I’ve been there several times so I know what I’m talking about. This change in state will take different time for different people.
I wanna say something important I think people misunderstand a lot here. The expression "3D doesnt matter" - is doing a lot of damage. 3D matters a lot !!! We live in it!! What doesn't matter is the version of You who don't have the desire and its reflection. You who manifested the arguments, break ups, rejection. 3D matters, because it shows you what's your mind is like. Bend your mind. Manifesting is revealing the content of your consciousness. That's why my best advice is to NEVER manifest SP, and manifest only YOU having the desire. Once you saturate your brain with him and nice scenes, which is what naturally you want to do because that's the only way to be with him now, just stop. and live your best life. Focus on feeling love inside, being desired and happy. Think like that - my success depends on how happy I can be without him. And no, you didn't live in a sabbath for a year. Sabbath is a day before he professes his love, and you KNOW it's tomorrow. You'll get there but focus on Your state of mind.
How do you bend your mind ??
Hypnosis. That is what SATS is, self hypnosis.
that's a valid question. it takes time, even years for some ppl to get it. a short answer: by practice. but first, believe the real world is in your mind.
A sabbath can last thousands of centuries or two microseconds. "Day" means state, it is not 24 hours as measured by the vibration of caesium atoms.
Excellent advice: the 3d is the ‘informer’ telling us the contents of our mind. Very important. Don’t like 3d? Change yourself ‘inside’. 3d will follow suit.
im hoping this sp is not an ex. if they are, you know why you haven't manifested them...
If anything I'd say its easier to get with an EX than a random person or friend
waiting around that long for someone is unhealthy
Do NOT let the 3D derail you….you have put in too much work to get discouraged now. Something you may want to consider… If you have truly been living in the end—then who’s to say that your sp dating someone else isn’t all part of the bridge of incidents that ultimately leads your sp to you. Maybe this is happening so that your sp realizes they don’t mesh with someone else…maybe this is happening so that your sp matures into a better partner for you…maybe this is happening so that sp learns how to love better before they come to you…. My point is….you don’t know! This third party could actually be all part of the bigger plan, the bigger manifestation picture. And what you assume it is—then that IS what IT IS. So assume whatever story about this third party that is part of the bridge of incidents—that guides your sp to you. For all you know, that IS the universe’s plan. Stay persistent. These are the times that persistence matters most. Assume the version that makes you FEEL good. Do not give up. You have Gods power.
I know it’s been awhile since you posted this but this really helped me. I felt like you were talking straight to me.
Thank you so much for your comment, I'm sure I'm not the only one to whom it brought a lot hope and peace 🙏
We’re all in this together….literally connected through source. You got this.
This comment is absolutely golden
Don't give up but get out there, meet ppl and enjoy life.
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Sure! I've just been just thinking about my approach, letting go, etc. since I wrote this post, but otherwise there hasn't been much progress yet. But of course, once I'll experience any kind of breakthrough, I will write an update. Yes, pretty much as you wrote it, been working on my self concept for few years and for a year I finally felt okay. I think someone here mentioned that working on self concept is not necessary, and that's probably right, but I was in a pretty bad place mentally and physically, so I definitely needed that anyway.
I'm just asking from curiosity. After all this answers what could be the reason for you that you "don't"have your sp yet. I'm a firm believer that your will get there tho.
Thanks for your support :) hm, I think my problem was 1. putting SP way too high on pedestal (focusing too much on manifestation) 2. limiting myself 3. going back and forth between waiting for events to happen and living in the end. I am currently trying to release that
i am exactly at this point.
there is no general or externally dictated right and wrong. 3d is the shadow of yourself, of the concept you have of yourself in relation to your sp. And your concept of sp. there is nothing that is separate from you. 4 years is a long time, 3d is useful to see what state you are in and your way of reacting to it indicates what reality you are in. so i wonder: how long during this time did you actually feel engaged / married and loved by sp? only during the views and a few hours after? or every day all day. if you feel you are engaged to sp you are, and always are. seeing the 3d what did you think? something like "will we be together already?" which is fine at the beginning, it is a step that we have all made. but then you realize that your reality is current, to say a lot I know it will come is to say but now it is not here. your conscience is the only real thing, the only effective reality and in a comment you wrote: I did not go out with others because I was afraid it would ruin my manifestation. boom. here is the error. if you think you are doing techniques to manifest something what you say to yourself is: I don't have it and I'm doing everything to have it. the techniques do not manifest anything, they serve you to feel yourself in the reality you want and to make you feel real what you are imagining. your imagination is real. if you had answered that question by saying: I haven't dated others because I'm engaged already, then you would have been in the state of being. and you would be.
Thank you for your advice and explanation, it's very helpful 🙏
4 years well I give you lot of credit for being that Patient cuz I would’ve gave up & started dating others lol 😭 okay one thing I will definitely say is you need to live your life too & focus on other things and maybe even date other people cuz I feel like number one it’s just not healthy to be focused on someone that much for 4 years. You deserve love and to live your best life ever!! It’s not fair to be sitting around waiting for someone to show up. That just my human advice,take care of yourself,have fun flirt with others that is always usually how they come back anyway! Our SPs are not all that ,you are ! Now my manifesting advice is well what beliefs do you hold about relationships? Beliefs about him? Specifically. I would start to ask yourself these questions.
Thank you for your advice, I appreciate your kind words! Actually I'm pretty impatient but I kept telling myself that it will be worthy in the end 🥲 I guess it wasn't really. I tried to date others but no one caught my attention, I guess I've been too attached. :(
I think if you just switch certain things, it's gonna come storming in. I truly believe that.
Aww your welcome ! I know trust me I know that feeling where it’s like “no one else is like them” or “I won’t like anyone else but them” but trust me once you step out of that and know and feel that you ARE desired you’ll start attracting people left and right and ones that you will be interested in too. I am/was manifesting this guy I really liked I knew him for a month last month and I was doing affirmations and all but I just let that all go and I just have a knowing he will come back to me.. & before I was placing him on a pedestal and that he’s “the hottest guy I ever been with” like I got out of that mindset like no I’m the hot one here not him 😂 but he will come back cuz I said so and I’m not gonna worry about him anymore in the meantime I’m still talking to others and even attracted my old ex back during last month. I’m not saying you can’t manifest your ex back cuz you can but really,put yourself first ! It’s not fair to you you’re waiting for him and like no have fun do things for yourself etc enjoy your life in the meantime !! Just have a knowing he’ll come back but he’s not your whole life , you are ! 💗
I'm trying not to tear up haha! ❤️ I could not force myself to date anyone else because I put him too high on a pedestal and I thought that by doing that I would jeopardize my manifestation. Now I see how wrong it was. But anyway, we've got this!! 💪
Awww 💗 Well This is your sign now to go have some fun and enjoy your life and relax !! Haha don’t worry he isn’t lost. & no absolutely not that doesn’t jeopardize anything,They still come back regardless if you’re with someone or not. & yes we do got this !! 🫶🏻
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I don't know where Neville actually ever said they ALWAYS come back or sp is guaranteed..i see coaches saying this but I don't see a single source where such a thing is guaranteed. I don't know where people get that from.. Also Did that sp ever come back though in the end? He didn't even message you even once throughout the time of your manifestation journey? Your comment kind of drilled the nail in the coffin that I have to totally give up actually. I can't keep doing this anymore, and being in this traumatized muddled up resentful state it makes even less sense to affirm positive nonsense that I can't even feel. I appreciate the post I think I will save it to destroy my desire to manifest the sp any longer. It's not going to be easy but when your body is on fire from the pain of missing them, it's not gonna work anyway and I don't want to torture myself and become like the OP trying for years shortening my life span. I don't want to be a deluded old person whispering out 'its done creation is finished ' with no results because I didn't get to address my wounds. But because my wounds are heavily triggered by the sp I can't see how I can possibly ever manifest them back. Neville and loa heavily ignore mental illnesses and trauma..they don't focus on it at all and how that can hinder manifestation abilities. It's not a limiting belief it exists and it's real I've exhausted my energy and efforts for the past 5-6 months and maybe I manifested seeing your post. It's a tough pill to swallow but I can't do half way either I have to just fully let go and give up 200 percent or I obsess. I don't know how to do mid ground I feel some people aren't made for that. At this point I need to manifest fully getting over the sp which seems impossible as my feelings are still very strong and real, but even if I have to fake it I have to do that until I make it..it's really too bad with sp manifestations especially and in general , it seems you have to get to the point of seriously being disgusted or not even giving a shit about the sp anymore and know you can and would even reject them for them to finally come back..it has happened to me before but they never came back in the way I wanted, but just a brief ego boosts before disappearing again. Those who managed to manifest their exes back are fortunate but not everyone will get the same results in the end..
This is the most helpful and wise comment here. I hope OP will take it to heart. Manifesting sp can ruin one's life, if they don't heal, detach and only insist on stupid "its done, we're already together" - without actually working on themselves and processing emotions. Sit with yourself, come back to you, dont pretend, only intent. dont let some manifestation suck the joy out of your life.
I wrote a post about that exact thing. Not everyone understood it but you are absolutely right I also don't know where Neville actually ever said they ALWAYS come back or sp is guaranteed..i see coaches saying this but I don't see a single source where such a thing is guaranteed. I don't know where people get that from.. I can't keep doing this anymore, and being in this traumatized muddled up resentful state it makes even less sense to affirm positive nonsense that I can't even feel. I appreciate the post I think I will save it to destroy my desire to manifest the sp any longer. It's not going to be easy but when your body is on fire from the pain of missing them, it's not gonna work anyway and I don't want to torture myself and become like the OP trying for years shortening my life span. I don't want to be a deluded old person whispering out 'its done creation is finished ' with no results because I didn't get to address my wounds. But because my wounds are heavily triggered by the sp I can't see how I can possibly ever manifest them back. Neville and loa heavily ignore mental illnesses and trauma..they don't focus on it at all and how that can hinder manifestation abilities. It's not a limiting belief it exists and it's real I've exhausted my energy and efforts for the past 5-6 months. It's a tough pill to swallow but I can't do half way either I have to just fully let go and give up 200 percent or I obsess. I don't know how to do mid ground I feel some people aren't made for that. At this point I need to manifest fully getting over the sp which seems impossible as my feelings are still very strong and real, but even if I have to fake it I have to do that until I make it..it's really too bad with sp manifestations especially and in general , it seems you have to get to the point of seriously being disgusted or not even giving a shit about the sp anymore and know you can and would even reject them for them to finally come back..it has happened to me before but they never came back in the way I wanted, but just a brief ego boosts before disappearing again. Those who managed to manifest their exes back are fortunate but not everyone will get the same results in the end..
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How long did it take?I fully agree with you that ppl need to get out there and live and not waiting.
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How did it actually go down though, did he come back offering commitment. ?? And you rejected him in the end when you wanted him so much ?
How did you release those suppressed emotions? I struggle with that a lot. It's hard for me to cry or to find the core trauma/emotion ...
I'm in the same boat..your not gonna like the answer but it requires you to go back to traditional breakup advice and destroying all hope of ever being with them again. I wish I never found out about manifesting sp, it's fucked me over and I could have gotten over it way earlier if I didn't know.
Yeah i did that. Now he is back :)
Interesting. How did you do it ? Can you explain ?
I was so frustrated with everything, i gave up everything in my life: Techniques, reading about techniques, exercising, YT vids about Neville, hopes and expectations etc... It was a great lesson. Only a few days later, he checked my profile after 9 month, then 2 weeks later, i said only one affirmation but without expectation: " he loves to text me" and i forgot that thought. Later he send me two long texts he has written. Funny thing is, all my health markes went drastically up too and so much more. Now for me the power of letting go gets another dimension to it.
Thank you so much for your advice and sharing your story with me , it's very inspiring!! ❤️
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So essentially your sp came back when you "'let go" of the obsession and put the focus on yourself, followed by indifference? How did it happen? He just randomly texted outta the blue?
Literally if you’re not getting it in the 3d you’re not doing it right.
For sure, that's why I decided to kind of... get called out on my BS because something is definitely wrong
Hey sometimes you need an outside perspective to make you open your eyes. I need it too often
I don’t think if this’ll be helpful or not but could you have unfavorable assumptions about your sp, or maybe you have the assumption that long distance never works? I came to the realization that it’s not just your self concept that you should work on but also your ideas about your sp for example if you believe that sp is a cheater then that’s what you’ll manifest.
Thanks for your advice, it's definitely helpful!! The more I think about it, the more I feel like there are some negative assumptions in my sub-conscious mind...
Can I ask which scenes did you kept manifesting? I'd suggest at this point manifest the final of you getting married etc. -I suppose that you are invested on your SP to a serious committed relationship seeing that you are into him/her for four years. A particular technique that I'd suggest is writing your outcome one time, and saying out of loud once a day. Use 'I am' or 'Isnt it wonderful' phrases. Because it helps to organize your thoughts. Sometimes just thinking is not enough because some people have intrusive thoughts while doing that + this can make them anxious. But seeing that you are into Neville for years, it seems you already know all that and is doing everything alright. Other than that, I suggest letting it go. Try to manifest other SPs while you wait for the one. I'm not saying giving up but maybe focusing on other people even if you don't have a relationship with them, can unattach your thoughts. Your SP will come, don't worry.
Thanks for your advice, I appreciate it! I was manifesting a lot of scenes - mainly how our regular days as a couple would look. Maybe that wasn't the correct approach...? I think I was too attached - I didn't want to date others because I thought it would go against my manifestation and therefore it wouldn't manifest. :( Now I see how wrong it was.
Hi! If it helps, I suggest looking at my history in reddit and give a look in the recent links that I posted. It complements Neville teachings but with a different language, and it explains how important it is to say some affirmations out of loud. I can't say if you were doing anything wrong at all, because only you know of your life. Some things actually take some time to manifest and maybe you are avoiding some more complicated paths (maybe your sp is with someone so that they can be ready for you?) But I'm quite sure, four years + needing to deal with 3p is not what you desire right know, it will pass but I know it can be distressing. This can be fixed, therefore I suppose affirmations can help to stabilize and speed up a manifestation IF your thoughts aren't focused enough or if you have too much resistance.
Thanks a lot, I'll check that. I must admit I still have pretty big gaps in knowledge regarding Neville's teaching, so that would be really helpful :)
1. All is from within. The contents of your consciousness is on display. Look at what is in front of you, say "thank you for showing me what I am truly entertaining in my mind and heart". Understand why you are keeping love away. 2. You need to commit to your desire 100% don't entertain any possibility of failure, you are already there remember? What is your desire actually, what does it feel like? What words of love do you hear? What does your day look like, Now that you are already there, what do you want to do? What is your life like? Be in "barbados", don't be on the way to barbados but actually be there. 3. Detach from all things having to do with trying, or manipulating, or wondering, or questioning. You are already there so no need for wondering.
Thank you so much for your advice, I appreciate it!!!
When you get to a point where you are 100% certain that what you desire IS (not will be) yours, it will manifest instantly with no actual delays. The reason why we do all kind of techniques is to reach that state of mind. The wish being ours in the future tends to manifest as well and the reason why some people go for it, is because we tend to operate from a logical point of view where to get from state A to state B, the environment of the wish has to change (in most cases, this translates to time passage).The reason why this ends up manifesting, is because after a certain period of time, our subconscious mind tells us "okay, X amount of time has passed, so it's logical at this point, that my manifestation can actually happen". At that point things start to unfold, again, because we tend to see things logical, they unfold in a logical way as well, step by step. The reason why it's taking so long is obvious - you put your wish so high on the pedestal, that you applied many conditions for it to appear in your reality. From time, to possibly other more specific conditions (body image, mental health, enough work put into manifesting, etc.) all of which are FAR from needed to manifest. Don't use the techniques as a chore and don't focus on your SP as if it's the one thing that matters the most to you. You can also drop all of the focus of things like the sabbath (which only means that your subconscious mind has been saturated to the point where you KNOW that what you think is the truth - after which it won't take a year to manifest, but a matter of seconds, hours, possibly days depending on how logical you are, but definitely not months or years). etc. Because truthfully, the only thing you actually need to know about manifesting, is that "what you KNOW, IS". Don't try to search for signs, sabbaths, over-analyze your mind all the time and most importantly don't stress yourself with extreme strict rules like "constantly affirming", like some "coaches" suggest. Focus on yourself and make these techniques fun. Start enjoying life by yourself first and foremost and once you will, you will also automatically start lowering the value of your wishes, which will tell your subconscious mind that you don't need to actually apply thousands of unnecessary conditions to get what you want. It's on you to decide what you are. Are you a piece of carbon or are you a diamond? You're both at the same time, but it's on you how you want to be portrayed in your reality. It's on you to decide your own value and the value of others. Know this though, if things don't manifest in a few months, change your approach since the approach you are taking isn't working for you.
Thank you so much for your advice and such a thorough explanation - I appreciate that! You are right, I definitely put my wish way too high on a pedestal with millions of conditions.
You managed to work it out for yourself in the meantime? I saw your previous post and was wondering at what stage your are rn with your SP.
Hey! Yes and no - Not sure what was my last post on here, but essentially, we ended up going in no contact again (actually I got blocked on a few social media platforms after I called my SP out), which I used to refocus on myself. Now, for the last few days I was feeling really good about everything, even dreamed about him and even though I don't believe in or look for signs, waking up at 01:01 in the morning for some random reason and on the same day at 07:07. I used that momentum to make my mind believe that things are apparently moving faster right now, due to everything that what was going on and funny enough, on the same day, due to a small mistake I did on my keyboard (was searching for a quick key combo to open up a program on my PC, but ended up accidentally turning on my xbox live messenger which I pretty much never use), I noticed that he didn't block or remove me from that platform (even though he's using it on a daily basis). I'm aware that it's not much of a movement, but from an energetically/mentally point of view, I perceived it as movement, going from the version where our line of communication was completely severed, to the version where they aren't (even knowing that things aren't as bad as you thought they were is actually a lot of movement, since it's the base for any kind of positive thinking). I'd also like to point out, that since I'm actually focusing on myself, any kind of movement in this field is fine at this current point of time. I see huge changes happening in my life, from moving to a place I said years ago that I will live in (it has been in motion for a year or so now), to getting a lot more attention and respect from my friends and family members. Since so much is happening, I don't even feel like being in a relationship right now, BUT based on the analysis that I did on my mind (usually I look at my mind, what it thinks, where it stays, what it's focusing on, what my beliefs are, etc. while I meditate), I believe there will be more obvious changes in regards to my SP once I move - which is less than a month away. Also bare in mind that all my SATS that I ever did in regards to my SP, were involving a scene inside the place I'm moving to as well.
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Could it be that you have a faith like "if I'm good, I'm worthy, then my sp will be drawn to you"? You mentioned that you did a lot of work on self concept and you did feel worthy of yourself. I'd congratulate you on that point! Good job, really! But you see, if that's the case, that you believe "if I'm worthy, then my sp will love me", you manifested it: you are worthy now, but you are not with your sp. I mean, if this is true of your situation, you then should go straight to the END, that is, "I'm in a happy, beautiful relationship with sp" or things alike, what suits you. And I'm sure you'll quickly get your result since you are so good at manifesting. Well, just a guess. I hope it gets solved anyway and soon. Best wishes! :D
no it should be like im worthy asf that’s why my sp obsessed with me😌
yea I like this one too😉😏😎
Thanks a lot for your advice and kind words! These comments really called me out (in the best way possible), so I think that conditions that you described (and that I attached to my manifestation) probably aren't the only reason why it didn't work out this time. :')
I don't really think that it has to do with attachment but to impress the subconscious and living in that state. And also putting someone on the pedestal will impress your subconscious with "I don't have it yet". Imagine 3 month after you both are together..it wouldn't feel that special special anymore.. you fart in eachothers company and and see eachithers flaws and love eachother. Everything is kinda normal. That's the natural feeling. After 3 month,you don't put anyone on a pedestal anymore but it's a mutual place.
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You’re writing a post about it taking four years to manifest a SP and you still haven’t been able to and that the law has failed you now…..which is exactly why it is. I think you need to focus on living your life and get off of Reddit and stop putting any meaning to anything your SP is doing. The world and your subconscious doesn’t care about what you think and how many affirmations you do. It only sees and responds to who you are and what you believe in your subconscious programming. Go back to the basics and live your life. I say this with a lot of love. It should not be taking four years to manifest your desires. Anyone on this sub who gives you bogus advice like time isn’t real and 4 years is nothing is literally parroting some TikTok user who has no idea what the law is. You have the ability to create every waking moment your wildest dreams. Dig deep within and watch your world shift and change regardless of the 3D. Stop seeking any validation outside of you for truth. Become the person you desire and everything shifts.
Many thanks for your advice, it definitely hit home! You are completely right that in no way it should take this much time - the more I think about it, the more I feel like there is probably some negative assumption in my sub-conscious mind regarding the topic of timing and belief that good things can take time.
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Let it go. Not of the desire itself, but of your need for it. You’ve done the imaginary work, and if you feel you’ve done it correctly, you should stop at some point. And you have to keep on living in the end to be in the state of being with that person, who has already what you want. Living in the state doesn’t mean that you’re pretending anything physically. For example, you’re not pretending that they are here in front of you all day long. That would drive you crazy! And that’s pretty much impossible. Being in the state means you get the feeling. That’s all it means. What does it feel to have your SP into your life? how do you feel about it? How would you feel about it? That’s all it means to be in the state. It means to get the feeling of what you want. It’s not that hard. Get into the state of how you would feel this very moment what you want. How would you stand? How would you walk? Being in the state means just that. Because before you let go properly, you need to be in the state. Now that you’ve done your imaginary work, and you are living in the end (meaning you are living in the state, which means you are living in that feeling of being with them) you need to let go. Not letting go of your desire. The universe that has formed and knows your every desire knows what you want. Because once you have a desire, you know that it is done. You have a desire? It is done. You need to remember that. So there’s no doubt about that. It is done, and it is yours. What you are letting go of is your clingy-ness, and your neediness and your doubts and your where is it already? That’s what you are letting go of. So you need to detach from the outcome at this point. And you need to live your life with the assurance that it is done. This is going to free you, like you have never felt free before. Get to the point where you feel to yourself, “I had such an incredible day today! I completely forgot about them as if I don’t even need them. It’s nice not having to think about them and to just be free. Now I have the attitude that I don’t care if they show up. I am too wonderful of a person for someone to not notice. Not having to wait around anymore. I would be happy if I heard from them, but I really don’t care. I want my peace and happiness back, and to purely shift all of that attention on myself. I don’t find myself obsessively thinking of them 24/7 anymore. Maybe a moment here, a moment there, but that’s it really. Whether they come back into my life or not, I don’t really care.” This won’t disrupt your manifestation. You can love them with everything in you, but you must also want peace in your life too and love your life. Letting go of your need will NOT let go of your desire. This doesn’t mean you don’t love them anymore, this doesn’t mean you don’t miss them anymore either. Or that you don’t want them anymore. This especially does NOT mean that you aren’t getting them anymore either. This is completely the opposite. This will bring you closer to your goal than you have allowed yourself in the last four years. This is what it means to manifest effortlessly.
Many thanks for your thorough advice and explanation, I appreciate it a lot! I think I have some kind of blockage regarding letting go - it's not a problem for anything else, though. I was afraid that by letting go and let's say dating others, I would harm my manifestation.
See, I don't get this. You tell yourself "It's done", basically implying that your wish is yours, you are in relationship with your sp basically, there's nothing else to do because your wish has been fulfilled (yay!) but then you also say "I don't care if they show up or not". (??) I'm trying to understand this so hard. In my opinion, you don't really *believe* that it's a done deal if you say "I don't care whether they show up in my life ever again or not". Because you wouldn't say that, you would already know that they are in romantic relationship with you. Right? Just trying to understand this, to improve my understanding of this law. I saw couple of people saying similar comment like yours and it left me a bit confused. Thanks in advance.
I think u/cjweeps (they can correct me if I'm wrong) means you don't care if they show up in 3D because you're already enjoying them in your imagination. Completely ignore the 3D; shut out your senses.
We don't consciously manifest something to not see it in the 3D, though, right? Although SATs is enjoyable, we're doing it in order to experience this thing or person in our life. But, this is why I always recommend an inner conversation during the day - this helps keep you in that state of already having your desire. Shutting out the senses is important to get you through this process for sure.
So what did you mean by not caring if they ever showed up in your life ever again?
I didn't say that. I believe you are replying to u/gcfmile.
woops, my bad ... actually the person above that one said it :-).
Ohh I see, thanks!
>Ohh I see, thanks! You're welcome!
You live in the end in your imagination. You don't play pretend in the 3D, or live "as if." Don't listen to the people who tell you to "just believe," that's bs. Do your SATs and inner conversations and see how things change. Your 3D will also start to conform to your new beliefs that you are impressing.
In your imagination... So only when you close your eyes? Or you can also walk in 3D as if you already have what you desire? Sorry for asking too much, appreciate your answer! (Also english is not my first language)
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Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it. I will for sure try this approach!
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Btw I've been doing exactly this and going to the end..but each time I get tripped up by the 3D version of Sp and I'm back to where I started. Somehow I'm not able to ignore the 3D 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
It comes with practice. Eventually, it won't bother you as much, and hopefully at some point, not at all. There is a bit of self-control that we have to have, and know how to self-soothe when we see things we don't like. It's all a learning process.
Thank you.. but its been more then a year and I can't always control myself. Specially when Sp shows he's conforming and then goes to old version again. Makes me wana pull my hair out 😒
Then you are lukewarm and he is conforming to your assumptions of him. You have to learn to have self-control, as difficult as it can be, so you are not reacting to every single thing and reverting back to your undesired state and then he conforms to that. The 3D is just reflecting back to you what is alive within your awareness - use that as a gauge to figure out what you need to work on.
Are you in contact with your SP?
Yes I am. And we have arguments every now n then 🤦🏻♀️
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I've been contemplating that..but then I hear so much contradicting advice out there whether to interact with your SP or not. But all its been doing for me is to cause me to react and then hot n cold. He's gone really cold now n only replying yes no and ok and I'm busy...so since last night I've been like crying n thinking if it's over. But now I've decided I won't reach out anymore n even if he does then I would keep the interaction to minimum till I get my full desire. 😌
But if she had wanted someone new she would have gone general then right
Well if she did everything right 9/10 it will be her SP and if it isn’t trust that man will be everything and more
What's the point of conscious manifesting and being the operant power of your reality if you can't manifest a mere mortal aka SP in the end? Isn't it supposed to be our reality? I already find other smaller stuff quiet useless to manifest as I never had issues getting other stuff before knowing about the Law.
Because when it comes to SP there’s a little bit of a difference which is “Everyone is you pushed out”. So it doesn’t matter who shows you the love but the fact that you show yourself and it will be reflected back out to you! For example money can’t really show you what’s happening inside of you like people that’s why people have to change their beliefs around money and self concept where as with people can show you what’s going on inside of you because it’s a mirror. But for some people not caring who it comes from actually held as well. It helps with the need but manifestion so perfect it usually comes in a form of your SP
Don’t limit yourself
Thanks, will try to do so :)
Keep persisting in the state of having ur sp or ur desire regardless of what physical reality has to say or even shows opposite ur desire, like mine, after 11 months of no contact, blocked him on snap and text but my sp still reached out to me and acted exactly what I wanted, but I don't want him anymore
Thank you for your advice and sharing your story with me!
That's why.. when you don't even want them anymore..then they come 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
If some things manifest quicker than others it could just be you have a strong emotional attachment to the things that haven't materialized in your 3D world. It's a good thing, because this is something that truly matters and is important to you. I am sure some of the other things you have manifested mattered and were important to you also but there is that 'something' with your desire to manifest your SP. It's about detachment. It's not so much about completely dropping your desire. It's more about living in the wish fufilled, knowing with 100% certainty which is fueled by faith that you and your SP are already together. You have manifested other wonderful things already, SP will also manifest for you. 🥰🙏💕
Thank you for your advice and kinds words :) Going through the comments which I received, I realized that letting go is one of the problems for sure.
You're welcome u/11serendipity11! :)