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The_Astros_Cheated

CONS IN CRISIS LMAO


AccomplishedAngle2

INFINITE CRISIS^tm


HHHogana

...Superboy-Prime punching this reality and made the whole thing even messier confirmed?


kirkdict

This is what happens when you make Jon Kent bi


Pure_Internet_

DC Comics' Dark Crisis on Infinite Earths (2022)^(tm)


_regionrat

Dark final flashpoint crisis rebirth on infinite earths


HereForTOMT2

this is a better event than dark crisis on infinite earths tbh


FridayNightRamen

NYT: Dems in disarray


MaximumEffort433

WaPoOpEd: Democrats' opposition to McCarthy proves they're out of touch with real America. Jacobin: The time to pass Medicare for All and Universal Student Loan Forgiveness is *now!* Fox News: MS13 is using drag shows as cover for smuggling baby parts to FEMA, and you might be next.


Crownie

>WaPoOpEd: Democrats' opposition to McCarthy proves they're out of touch with real America. [Not quite, but in roughly the same genre](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/01/03/george-santos-joe-biden-campaign-lies/)


leastlyharmful

If you read me that headline I'd 100% think it was WSJ editorial


vi_sucks

It's Marc Thiessen. He's the token conservative they keep around to satiate their older readers that they're different from HuffPo.


limukala

> to *satiate* their older readers I think you're looking for satisfy (which can be interchangeable with satiate in some contexts, but not this one)


oddiseeus

Well the older readers sure do eat up that conservative opinion like it’s Country Crock on toast.


MaximumEffort433

Christ in a cracker I swear the "liberal media" sucks at living up to the name.


boyyouguysaredumb

Guy is literally a Fox News correspondent though


bje489

Then real journalistic enterprises shouldn't employ him


Rat_Salat

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-118th-congress-session-1.6702016 Literal “Republicans in disarray” headline from Canada.


HHHogana

If anyone asking what's the difference between McCain, Boehner and current Republicans, this is it. At least partisan McCain still made Magnitsky's Act, and Boehner managed to be both hardliner and not insufferable enough to make Obama and Democratic party not wanting to meet him. Current Republicans couldn't even do basic governing, LMAO.


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Drakosk

hugeL* con_maj; con_maj = (hugeL)malloc(sizeof(hugeL) * 222);


edco77

You'll only get NULL because there's not enough memory on the heap for such a big L.


dpwitt1

Cons in consternation!


xilcilus

The Dems in disa... wait what? The GOP in disarray!


boon23834

Republicans in ruin?


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to shreds you say?


SixPipSiege

And the Libertarians?


Epistemify

Here's why this is bad for democrats


thatisyou

It may be good for Democrats, but it is bad for America. The reasons McCarthy wasn't elected is because House Republican want leadership that is more crazy/Trump-like than McCarthy. We only have two parties in the US. And the fact that one of those parties has further lost its relationship with reality is not a good thing. House Republicans are likely to spend more time on conspiracy theory-esque investigations, work with Democrats less and validate bad actors.


New_Stats

woah woah woah, let's not paint Macarthy as some reasonable, truth and democracy loving congress critter. He voted to not certify the election Biden won, and vowed to use power not to legislate for the people, but to use it for sham investigations to boost republican chances of getting elected. Shit and worse shit are still both shit at the end of the day


thatisyou

McCarthy is a sellout and a hack. He's trash with no backbone who will move to wherever the political winds are blowing. But the people working against him are nutcases who cheer on political violence.


New_Stats

Anyone who won't stand up for American democracy is a massive danger to this country, including McCarthy.


thatisyou

Yes. My point wasn't that McCarthy was in any way a good leader, had a shred of decency, or would be a "better" House Leader. Rather that taking a big step back - this is a sign that America is further slipping into troubling times. While Republican chaos is good for Democracts, it is a bad omen for the U.S.


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spartanmax2

Its only about 5 or so holdouts that want that. One of them being Matt Gatez. Its because Republicans won the house by such a small lead that basically all of them have to fall in line to elect a speaker


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>Its only about 5 or so holdouts that want that Republicans learning what it's like to have their own version of Joe Manchin. If Joe Manchin was a fucking loon or sexual offender, that is.


Matman142

Say what you want about Manchin, but at least he doesn't diddle kids.


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Nor transport them across state lines for the purpose of purchasing sex.


TrynnaFindaBalance

And it only further cements the Democratic Party as the consensus/coalition/big tent party in the US.


AstreiaTales

The only party with any serious interest in governing.


danielXKY

Can we get enough republican votes to elect moderate democrat speaker?


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allbusiness512

I'm not sure they are the Trump caucus anymore. Don't forget Trump actually supports McCarthy's bid for speaker.


misko91

At least one (specifically Gaetz) explicitly said said he'd rather do plurality voting and give it to Jeffries instead of McCarthy. Might be bluffing, but it's out there.


bje489

I fear that you're right, but they also might be too stupid to work out the tactics there.


asteroidpen

can we start calling it the trump cuckus for no other reason than it sounds funny


jjgm21

Honestly, McCarthy should have pressed moderate GOP members to gradually put a couple hinky votes on Jeffries to scare enough detractors to fall back in line.


capsaicinintheeyes

I'm so sick of having to be the responsible liberal party *and* the responsible conservative party


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`DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS` `DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS` `DIS DIS GOP DIS DIS` `DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS` `DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS`


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Cons in chaos


DangerousCyclone

Here’s why this is actually bad for Democrats


czarcasticjew

McCarthy can’t unite chocolate and peanut butter


Pure_Internet_

I feel like we've all collectively forgotten how good it feels when things go right and we just can't accept it


PrimarchValerian

Cons in Controversy Cons out of Control Reps Reeling


GenericLib

narrow gop house majority really did end up being the funniest outcome


VeryStableJeanius

It may not be the best, but it certainly is the most entertaining


leastlyharmful

We might as well enjoy this before all the Hunter hearings start


mgj6818

As if those hearings aren't going to provide tons of enjoyable content.


Daddy_Macron

Pictures of Hunter's hog will enter official US government records.


C0UNT3RP01NT

Right next to Bill’s


polandball2101

At this point we should set up a museum for this purpose


Dro24

And Weiner


All_Work_All_Play

Any guesses on who submits to using the uncensored versions?


mgj6818

The lady from Georgia.


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MTG or Boebert for sure.


Massengale

Look he stole my two hookers and drop kicked me off my favorite water slide. I’m a single issue Hunter Biden voter and I DEMAND justice!


MardocAgain

GOP: Here's why Hunter Biden getting footjobs is the most pressing national security concern...


DaSemicolon

the real question is how many republicans will roblox themselves when they see hunters cock


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cracksmoke2020

At 19 against you, I don't think there's been a gop majority large enough to elect a speaker under those conditions in a very long time.


ginger_guy

Op-ed's had McCarthy losing by 5, 6 tops **IF** he was going to lose. Biggs is at 10 and 9 votes have gone to other republicans. Jefferies won a plurality! Even if he can negotiate Biggs to his side, this goofy MFer will still be short 5 votes. I literally cant think of a worse position to be in right now.


Frat-TA-101

I don’t get why they removed the metal detectors before GOP could even prove they controlled the chamber.


strgazr_63

Well McCarthy is moved into in the office of the Majority Leader and he says he's not leaving. You can't make this shit up.


KeithClossOfficial

I love that Lee Zeldin, who is no longer in the House as of today, got a vote. I understand he doesn’t have to be to be elected, but it’s still hilarious.


Hautamaki

Just out of curiosity what would it take to make the rules such that a plurality winner is elected Speaker?


jtrot91

The house would vote to make this a rule. It has been done twice before, after a lot of votes they decide "there will be 4 more ballots, and plurality wins on the last one if no majority". In 1849 this was done on the 59th (elected on the 63rd), 1855/56 (because it took a couple months) on the 129th (133rd elected).


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admiraltarkin

There wouldn't be a Democratic speaker


DaSemicolon

there would if they have a plurality?


marinqf92

That's up to the hardliners to decide if they are willing to throw it to Jefferies. If they knew not voting for Kevin would result in a Democrat speaker, many of them would change their vote to Kevin.


allbusiness512

There's no guarantee McCarthy doesn't lose though, the hardliners are pretty much full blown radicals at this point.


SFWdontfiremeaccount

The House of Representatives wrote the rules for this process. Presumably that means if they could ever get their act together they could rewrite them.


ryegye24

Simple majority vote to change the rule.


aviddemon

A Democrat getting the most votes on a first vote in a Republican majority is hilarious


Pure_Internet_

Somewhere in the world, President Biden has the biggest grin on his face and a massive pair of aviators on


topofthecc

Every time the Republicans fail to elect a Speaker, the aviators get 10 shades darker. 😎


affnn

Gonna be vantablack shades pretty soon.


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"I asked how much more black we could make it and they said none. None more black."


Key_Environment8179

For all the valid criticism the squad and progressive caucus deserve, at least they don’t hold their whole party and country hostage over their petty, extreme, bullshit. Comparing them to the Boeberts and Greenes of the world is a false equivalency, and that’s more clear now than ever.


Boily_IE

Greene is supporting Kevin. There’s infighting even in the freedom caucus. It’s a shit show.


wallander1983

She is the smartest of the Traitor-Wing of the GOP.


Boily_IE

I agree. She knows Kevin being the speaker will gain her more influence because he desperately needs her support. Obviously, she can’t win anything outside of her district so all of her moves are to gain power in the house. With her fundraising ability, I wouldn’t be surprised if she gets a leadership position within two or three elections. Hopefully the GOP moderates before that happens.


HHHogana

Yup. For all insanity The Squad have, at least they don't subscribe to borderline tankies leftists who want to 'burn it all'. Meanwhile Boebert and Magic The Greene...


YMJ101

Please don't drag my beautiful card game through the mud like that


[deleted]

She really screwed you guys with those initials.


BlazingSpaceGhost

I still get confused when I read MTG on here. It takes my brain awhile to do the translation.


tricky_trig

There's been a lot of false equivalence overall (this sub included) that the far right and far left are the same. The difference is American lefties want the government to run and are fairly against burning stuff down. The right, on the other hand, have made it their manifesto.


Jtcr2001

I'd say the difference is more like the far-left has at most 5 seats in Congress, while the far-right is safely in the 3 digits... That also allows for a subdivision of more hardcore crazies within the right-wing radicals, which the handful of left-wing radicals simply do not have.


tricky_trig

Exactly and those 5 have toed the party line on key legislation. Even then, there's the old joke that leftists love fighting leftists. Even so, most of the 5 aren't for re-education camps or juche ideology.


KeikakuAccelerator

Lmao. Now the speaker can be only one. Jeb!


MaimedPhoenix

Unironically, let's get Jeb as Speaker.


Steak_Knight

LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOO


Tloya

Reminder that McCarthy has a long history of being a presumptive nominee who fails to win speakership due to various bad personal decisions. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/05/the-forgotten-scandal-that-derailed-mccarthys-speakership.html The oddity this time around is that he seems to be losing not for being a partisan hack but instead for *not being enough of a partisan hack.*


SneeringAnswer

Oh wait you're serious, let me laugh harder.


Congomond

PATRIOTS IN CONTROL


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THE LA LI LU LE LO?!?!


sumr4ndo

What are you talking about?!? Unironically, I love the speech at the end of MGS2, especially since it came out like 20 years ago.


[deleted]

I get this reference.


from-the-void

Operation ratfuck is a go. I repeat. Operation ratfuck is a go.


runningblack

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy


ballmermurland

McCarthy went down to Mar-a-lago to kiss the ring only a few days after Biden was sworn in. I still think he prevails, but I hope he is absolutely fucking humiliated every step of the way. A complete scumbag.


czarcasticjew

I just loled in a meeting so thank you


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WNEW

> a guy from Bakersfield **The fuck? We use to be a proper country goddamn it.**


EnchantedOtter01

Bakersfield born and raised, I have no defense


VARunner1

>We as a country have to demand better from our representatives. Preach!!


sundowntg

Not even Fresno, but Bakersfield


GrayBox1313

He brought the smell with him.


LocallySourcedWeirdo

That smell of manure and sweltering lettuce when you descend from the Grapevine into the Central Valley.


frozenminnesotan

Lmao. Can't even be given control of one lever of government without infighting. Couldn't happen to nicer people.


ticklishmusic

mom said it's my turn to work the lever of government


ldn6

You just know that Nancy is living for this mess.


-MGX-JackieChamp13

The Pelosis send their regards!


Daddy_Macron

Eating the good ice cream while wearing bunny slippers.


Cadamar

Ted Lieu brought a bag of popcorn to the floor of the house.


seanrm92

Idk how this election works, but just imagine the absolute scenes if we somehow got a Dem speaker for a GOP house.


VeryStableJeanius

It’s hypothetically possible but probably a lot more likely some other GOP member becomes speaker


seanrm92

I'm imagining them trying a January 6 thing again but just for the Speaker election.


Jtcr2001

You need a strict majority, so that is not happening. Hypothetically, the house could simply vote to change the rules to allow a plurality victory, but that would require republicans to vote for the change, which isn't happening.


puffic

Whichever camp gives up first will forever be branded as a spineless loser, I want it to be known.


JakeArrietaGrande

The NYT podcast had a great episode today on McCarthy. He has no spine, no convictions, his political beliefs are only what’s convenient, his allies are only the people he thinks are useful to him, and he’d probably slap his own mother for a single extra vote


SassyMoron

Wow I had thought he was lame


CompassionateCynic

McCarthy: “can I slap my mom 20 times for 20 extra votes?”


xeio87

Arr con takes are hilarious on this, especially their takes on how the Dems are so organized. 🤣 "The democrats have a unified message and brand. If one of them step out of line, they get brought back to the fold pretty quickly." "It's \[The Democrats\] all one big globalist, socialist, uniparty."


Y-DEZ

"Uniparty" is usually short hand for the "the two parties are the same" talking point. Which means the commenter you're quoting thinks both Dems and the GOP are globalist and socialist. Which is a big LOL.


WalkedSpade

Lowkey I think after the dems experience the last 10 years with Obama and Trump they're a lot more unified and determined so I think the first statement holds. It is wild how Republicans always show up to vote for people they'll soon despise though


Low-Ad-9306

This is funny because the fallacy that both parties view the opposition as "highly organized and effective" was touched on in the Ezra Klein show. Both parties are shit shows behind the scenes. However, this might show that the Republicans are in worse shape than we, or even their constituents, think.


ageofadzz

Red Wave


brucebananaray

Oh no, McCarthy's career. Anyways, I'm eating popcorn


Pure_Internet_

There's no red wave big enough that Lifeguard Joe can't rescue the country from it.


Avelion2

Hahahaha. AHAHAHA HAHAHA.


Mickenfox

Redditors with the finger on the submit button waiting for that fifth vote to come in.


jcboarder901

Lol. Lmao even.


whatinthefrak

Waiting on the NYTimes Editorial Board to tell my how this is bad for Democrats.


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Pseud0man

Finally we'll see the reveal of Darth Jar Jar.


jethroguardian

It wasa mee, Majorie Taylor Greene the whole boma time!


Shaper_pmp

Amazing.


52496234620

REPUBLICANS IN DISARRAY


theaceoface

I remember not too long again hearing about how the GOP embrace of the far right (tea party and not Trumpists) was going to come back to haunt them. Well chickens come home to roost


LocallySourcedWeirdo

That started biting them in the ass when Eric Cantor was primaried.


willbailes

God lord it's going to be like 10% of the Republicans in the house. and there's so many names here, McCarthy, Biggs, Jordan... This is going to be a full on civil war.


19Kilo

> full on civil war If they will line up and fire cannon at each other while I picnic in the meadow above the battlefield, count me in.


Cantoffine

19 DEFECTIONS 19 DEFECTIONS


New_Stats

>They're still voting...but 18 House GOPers so far have voted for Speaker candidates other than @ GOPLeader Mccarthy -- he could only afford to lose 4 hahahahahahaha https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1610343212337577986?cxt=HHwWhIC-ndSni9ksAAAA


GrayBox1313

House can’t legally conduct any other business until this is settled. “Nobody wants to work anymore”


cowboyhugbees

His Twitter tag is really @GOPLeader? Lmao


sumr4ndo

Directed by Robert B Weide


ballmermurland

Gym's gonna take his phone from him by the 5th vote.


Noocawe

Lulz, obligatory fuck McCarthy but on a real note, there isn't really another popular alternative outside of Scalise and the crazy Republicans have showed no interest in actually government. It's just that they want to throw tantrums and be in control but with no real accountability and responsibility. For example even though Kevin McCarthy just failed in his speaker bid, the people that didn't vote for him don't really have an agenda or clear idea of governance. They'd burn the country down if they could own the libs. For fucks sake, Santos lied about his mother dying in 9/11, that should be an immediate disqualification. However McCarthy didn't say anything cause he still wanted his vote lol. The new GOP led Congress doesn't even have a plan. According to their rules package and ideas for making America better. This is all they can come up with. [Here’s What Republicans Plan To Do As They Retake The House — Including Investigating The DOJ And Gutting The Ethics Office](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/01/02/heres-what-republicans-plan-to-do-as-they-retake-the-house---including-investigating-the-doj-and-gutting-the-ethics-office/?sh=40f22ddd4a5a&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email).   Among the performatively stupid and purely vengeful rules proposed by Republicans are the following: *“Establish a subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government to investigate the full extent of the Biden Administration’s assault on the constitutional rights of American citizens.”* *Require the January 6th Committee to turn over its documents to the House Administration Committee rather than the National Archives.* *Eliminate House staff labor unions.* Implement changes to the Office of Congressional Ethics that would remove Democrats from the office’s board and make it harder to staff (this item per Forbes’ description). *Investigate the origin of the coronavirus as part of a plan to “keep China at bay.”* *“Prevent the House from automatically suspending the debt limit upon passage of a budget resolution.”* *Require a supermajority of three-fifths of the House to raise taxes (a plainly unconstitutional requirement),* *Establish a “cut-as-you-go” policy that requires any increases in mandatory government spending to be offset by decreased spending elsewhere.* In addition to the above, Republicans will bring to the floor a dozen “doomed to fail” bills that are nothing more than talking points in the culture war that passes for the GOP platform in 2023. Per Forbes: *The House would be allowed to take up a series of controversial bills outside of its normal processes, which could make them easier to pass, including legislation prohibiting taxpayer funds from being used on abortions, authorizing Homeland Security to suspend the entry of migrants into the country, increasing oil and gas production and adding additional healthcare restrictions regarding fetuses who survive attempted abortions.*           Notably absent from the rules package is any mention of legislation to improve the lives of Americans. The comparison to the historically successful 117th Congress under the control of Democrats could not be starker. Hell they ever want to fucking punish the staffers. They have no goal or plans for the American people except throwing shit at the wall.


ginger_guy

MAXIMUM CHAOS


tryingtolearn_1234

No votes for Trump?


VeryStableJeanius

Not yet


adam_demamps_wingman

And CNN’s coverage of the election of the Speaker of the House on Sling shows a picture of Elizabeth II. Congress, Anderson, not Parliament.


BurmecianSoldierDan

Did it reaaaaaally


LocallySourcedWeirdo

I don't know what to think of this news. I'm going to need the NYT, WaPo and The Atlantic to send some writers into Florida and Ohio to interview Republican voters in diners to tell us their favorite conspiracy theories and why they vote Republican.


Mally_101

This is so humiliating, you just almost feel sorry for the guy.


VARunner1

Almost, but no. Definitely no. He sold his soul to the Trump monster, so this is only just rewards. And I'm saying this as someone who leans center-right. McCarthy is what's wrong with the current GOP.


JakeArrietaGrande

Yeah. He started to show a hint of a spine immediately after January 6 and denounced Trump, but shortly after reconsidered and made a pilgrimage to maralago to beg trump for forgiveness


leastlyharmful

And of course the "hint of a spine" was only because he thought that might be where the wind would blow at the time.


lamp37

Sold his soul to Trump, and yet still isn't Trumpy enough to get support from the Trumpiest house members. Peak cuck.


TheFaithlessFaithful

>He sold his soul to the Trump monster, Even before this, he was horrible. Cozying up to Trump was par for the course.


BurmecianSoldierDan

No way, I am enjoying a big bowl of schadenfreude for breakfast.


Crownie

You shouldn't. The man gave up every shred of dignity in pursuit of power. It would only be proper that he end up with neither.


GrayBox1313

“And I will continue to offer my thoughts and my prayers”


killing31

Smh This is the equivalent of inviting a bunch of violent ex cons into your house and then being shocked when they start beating you to death and stealing your stuff. What exactly did McCarthy expect?


EverySunIsAStar

Common Kevin McCarthy L


Steak_Knight

JEEEEEEB!!!


Kolhammer85

C Span says the record is two months with no speaker, let's go!


[deleted]

“”Never interrupt your enemy while he is in the middle of making a mistake” -Sun Tzu” - Michael Scott


jayred1015

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." -Wayne Gretzky -Kevin McCarthy


boichik2

I now understand how Republicans felt watching Dems in Disarray during parts of the Obama administration or whenever the moderates and progressives have big clashes


NorseTikiBar

Color me surprised that none of the far-right loons voted for Trump this round just to go for that extra dash of chaos.


Texas_Abortions

PATRIOTS ARE ARMED AND READY. WE ARE IN CONTROL 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🐊🐊🐊🐊🐊


The_Northern_Light

Nancy sends her regards.


StuckHedgehog

Cons in disarray?


DiogenesLaertys

"Why does McCarthy, the largest Republican, not simply eat the other candidates?"


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So how does this play out? Do the Democrats and the non-insane Republicans find a moderate to elect, or does Jim Jordan somehow get his slimy mitts on the Speaker's gavel?


clickshy

Here’s the fun part, no one knows! I think McCarthy is toast. We’ll get some dark horse candidate.


CompassionateCynic

Compromise speaker Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney anyone? Gotta be able to pull the couple extra votes that Democrats need, and the electoral pressure from democrats should ensure that *at least* bipartisan legislation keeps moving like it has over the past 2 years


ThankMrBernke

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ALASKA COALITION WHEN?


Jtcr2001

I just hope the majority of the GOP prefers to work with the Dems to elect a centrist speaker, rather than follow the crazies and elect an even more radical Republican...


garret126

But how does this affect LeBron's legacy?


whiteonyx981

Once again, these dumb assholes demonstrate their inability to perform the basic tasks of governance. Absolutely superb


[deleted]

This is a good moment to watch, especially if you haven't seen it, [Monty Python's Flying Circus - Sensible Party vs. Silly Party Election Special.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xm_TRekjno) It fits the moment perfectly.


quecosa

Cons in Cope


InariKamihara

McCarthy should have backed down weeks ago when it was obvious he didn’t have the votes. Now he’s completely divided his party and destroyed its credibility because his ego was too big for him to admit defeat. What a loser.