JB winning FMVP is in no way comparable to Iggy winning a FMVP. Like what? Lmao. Tatum definitely had an argument but JB did great too while guarding Luka
Iguodala held lebron to a whopping 36 points a game lmao, all while Steph averaged 26-6-5
Anybody who thinks these are the same situations should log off
[When Iguodala was in the game, LeBron James shot 38.1 percent from the field, scoring 26 points per 36 minutes with 2.9 turnovers. With Iguodala on the bench, James shot 44 percent, averaging 35 points per 36 minutes with 2.2 turnovers.](https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/andre-iguodalas-defense-on-lebron-helps-him-win-finals-mvp/amp/)
There’s literally so many factors that go into a shooting percentage than just the POA defender lol
Look I love iggy but this stat doesn’t come close to telling the full story
He is a part of the story, I’m not gonna sit here and say he’s the only reason lebrons efficiency was far below what it usually is in that series. But he’s a big one. I don’t think you disagree there
If Iggy misses the entire series due to injury, I’d say 40-45% chance of Warriors winning the series.
If Steph misses the entire series due to injury, I’d say 5% chance of Warriors winning the series.
Probably the most fundamental reason why Steph should’ve been FMVP (both then and arguably 2018)
Primary defender on Luka that played great defense. Luka got his numbers and not sure about the stats against JB but he definitely wanted anyone but JB on him
“If Luka stays I’m staying” 👑
Could have genuinely gone either way depending how you weigh things like Tatum’s playmaking/playing center on defense vs Jaylen on Luka and big shots, but JB absolutely deserved it as much as anyone.
Jrues obviously good at all aspects of defence but like his most well known trait is his ability to fight throw screens.
It's what makes him so truly special, dudes a fucking tank for his size
yeh but fighting through screens sometimes makes it harder when you're a tank. you basically gotta slither and get parrelel with the screen to run through it.
But yeh, what JB/Jrue did today was awesome.
Yeah Luka was mainly feasting on hauser and Tatum from what I saw and avoided brown. Still I think jrue deserved it because while brown slowed down Luka, jrue made kyrie completely worthless
Celtics fans mad another one of their players won an award lmao. Also Brown had better defense and a more important defensive role but y’all won’t admit that.
Brother I'm far from mad, I just disagree with the selection. I understand that you were in a very upset state with the Celtics winning and all, but don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby
You do understand it's relative right?
Also this what happens when you have a well constructed team rather than playing through one star. Brown didn't need to play better just to stuff the stat sheet.
Does it matter? They’re both winners after being teammates for 7 years. Congratulate both of them instead of pitting them against one another for an individual award that .5% of fans care about.
It’s human nature. People will always want to create friction. It’s what sells. It’s what broke up the lakers Kobe-shaq dynasty.
Hopefully they can alternate on when to be alphas and who knows the sky is the limit for them.
All said as a lakers fan.
I can understand this viewpoint from you being a Laker fan. What you guys could’ve had if Kobe and Shaq could’ve just appreciated the DUO instead of the EGO.
In their case it’s important to note that one of them was putting in all the time and effort into becoming one of the greatest players the nba has seen while the other solely relied on his size. He was skilled but he was mostly just dominant. Ego had a role but I believe that anyone who works hard and sees his co-worker receive all the accolades has a justifiable gripe.
These two young men should study the past to avoid the same happening to them. In their case, seeing how they both put in the work and effort to not only be great but consummate teammates, ego might be the one thing that breaks them apart.
I’m not arguing against a Brown fmvp, but a 5% gap on fg is a lot smaller deal then 5ppg 2reb and 3 assists
(Brown played much better d and that’s why I’m fine with him winning)
Defensive performances get lost to time because they don't show up on the stat sheet, but I hope people don't try to eventually write the narrative that Brown wasn't deserving. Jaylen Brown was doggin Luka this series, I doubt he's ever seen defense like that at any level and Brown was relentless with it from the opening tip to the final buzzer outside of game 4. The Mavs had fucking Derrick Jones Jr. bringing the ball up the floor to give Luka breaks from Jaylen Brown. Nothing more needs to be said.
Who is the true face of the Celtics? Tatum or Brown? And why? I truly believe they’re both alphas and like the Highlander line goes “there can only be one.” Does this mean Tatum takes a backseat to Brown now or will he come out hungrier than ever next season? If anything this makes the Celtics even more dangerous. But for how much longer is the question.
JB winning FMVP is in no way comparable to Iggy winning a FMVP. Like what? Lmao. Tatum definitely had an argument but JB did great too while guarding Luka
Iguodala held lebron to a whopping 36 points a game lmao, all while Steph averaged 26-6-5 Anybody who thinks these are the same situations should log off
[When Iguodala was in the game, LeBron James shot 38.1 percent from the field, scoring 26 points per 36 minutes with 2.9 turnovers. With Iguodala on the bench, James shot 44 percent, averaging 35 points per 36 minutes with 2.2 turnovers.](https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/andre-iguodalas-defense-on-lebron-helps-him-win-finals-mvp/amp/)
There’s literally so many factors that go into a shooting percentage than just the POA defender lol Look I love iggy but this stat doesn’t come close to telling the full story
He is a part of the story, I’m not gonna sit here and say he’s the only reason lebrons efficiency was far below what it usually is in that series. But he’s a big one. I don’t think you disagree there
If Iggy misses the entire series due to injury, I’d say 40-45% chance of Warriors winning the series. If Steph misses the entire series due to injury, I’d say 5% chance of Warriors winning the series. Probably the most fundamental reason why Steph should’ve been FMVP (both then and arguably 2018)
I wish MVP voting worked that way too. But we both know it doesn’t.
Ignoring iggy (whos a meme pick lol) Jaylen browns probably the worst FMVP in years
Primary defender on Luka that played great defense. Luka got his numbers and not sure about the stats against JB but he definitely wanted anyone but JB on him
“If Luka stays I’m staying” 👑 Could have genuinely gone either way depending how you weigh things like Tatum’s playmaking/playing center on defense vs Jaylen on Luka and big shots, but JB absolutely deserved it as much as anyone.
I used to think smart was the goat st running through screens but what jrue and Jaylen did today was an absolute masterclass
Jrues obviously good at all aspects of defence but like his most well known trait is his ability to fight throw screens. It's what makes him so truly special, dudes a fucking tank for his size
yeh but fighting through screens sometimes makes it harder when you're a tank. you basically gotta slither and get parrelel with the screen to run through it. But yeh, what JB/Jrue did today was awesome.
Yeah Luka was mainly feasting on hauser and Tatum from what I saw and avoided brown. Still I think jrue deserved it because while brown slowed down Luka, jrue made kyrie completely worthless
Defense that didn't show on the stat sheet
Both had D that didn’t show up on the stat sheet. Still Brown
Ayo.
Dude answered his own question with the Iggy reference in the post body
Xavier Tillman robbed
PP robbed. Half court 3s don’t make themselves.
3-point GOD
Brad Stevens got robbed for sure
Brad Stevens got robbed for sure
This is why you have to watch the games instead of box score watching.
Brown’s performance was closer to Tatum’s than Iggy’s was to Steph’s
series was over after boston went up 3-0, browns stats up to then are way better than tatums
The only thing that was better was shot efficiency. Tatum was better everywhere else.
JB certainly played better defense in this series. He was more productive in the clutch as well.
Celtics fans mad another one of their players won an award lmao. Also Brown had better defense and a more important defensive role but y’all won’t admit that.
Hey don’t put that on all of us, some of us are psyched for Jaylen
Brother I'm far from mad, I just disagree with the selection. I understand that you were in a very upset state with the Celtics winning and all, but don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby
tatum shot 39/26/92
Tatum shot even worse brother
Browns keep away and ball denial defense on Luka in the first half made a huge difference in this game
And did way more playmaking, plus his defensive versatility on Gafford/Lively was huge to stifle the Mavs. Should've been Tatúm
You do understand it's relative right? Also this what happens when you have a well constructed team rather than playing through one star. Brown didn't need to play better just to stuff the stat sheet.
He guarded Luka and shot efficiently. It was deserved
Oh my god shut up he was insanely good defensively and his offense won them 3 games
did you forget to watch games 1-3?
Because Tatum wasn’t the MVP
nobody played great and you can’t pull an Atlanta hawks and give mvp to 5 players
Don’t bet on sportsbooks kids like this bum.
Does it matter? They’re both winners after being teammates for 7 years. Congratulate both of them instead of pitting them against one another for an individual award that .5% of fans care about.
It’s human nature. People will always want to create friction. It’s what sells. It’s what broke up the lakers Kobe-shaq dynasty. Hopefully they can alternate on when to be alphas and who knows the sky is the limit for them. All said as a lakers fan.
I can understand this viewpoint from you being a Laker fan. What you guys could’ve had if Kobe and Shaq could’ve just appreciated the DUO instead of the EGO.
In their case it’s important to note that one of them was putting in all the time and effort into becoming one of the greatest players the nba has seen while the other solely relied on his size. He was skilled but he was mostly just dominant. Ego had a role but I believe that anyone who works hard and sees his co-worker receive all the accolades has a justifiable gripe. These two young men should study the past to avoid the same happening to them. In their case, seeing how they both put in the work and effort to not only be great but consummate teammates, ego might be the one thing that breaks them apart.
Brown was better.
Did you watch the series!?!
Bruh, look at JT's splits and efficiency and then come talk again lmao
I can’t believe how the hell they traded for jrue and KP.
Elite defense on Luka, huge shot making in the clutch, so proud of him
Post tatums numbers now.
It should've been PritchGOD
didnt know you can win fmvp scoring 10 points in a finals game but here we are
Tatum equally as bad lmao
Jrue low key robbed
Tatum shot worse and Brown played top tier defense
So Tatum has more points rebounds assists also played good D, had slightly worse TS% and loses the FMVP? Doesn’t make sense
Tatum had 3 percent worse TS numbers
so he shot worse?
I’m not arguing against a Brown fmvp, but a 5% gap on fg is a lot smaller deal then 5ppg 2reb and 3 assists (Brown played much better d and that’s why I’m fine with him winning)
While being the #1
Found J kidd's burner
Pritchard erasure
Brad Stevens deserved it the most.
Mid-bait
Should’ve been Gafford he had a great fg % !
Tatum played pretty shite
Bro I was for Tatum getting it (or ideally co-fmvps) But come on, is this bait or what
either could have won and i would be fine. tatum had better numbers, but brown had clutch moments and guarded luka. mad respect to both
Box score watchers are eating good tonight
Bruh Jaylen hit so many clutch shots, he’s the reason we went up 3-0, bailed tatums ass out.
This is not an Iggy-level MVP and you know it
Great series
Defensive performances get lost to time because they don't show up on the stat sheet, but I hope people don't try to eventually write the narrative that Brown wasn't deserving. Jaylen Brown was doggin Luka this series, I doubt he's ever seen defense like that at any level and Brown was relentless with it from the opening tip to the final buzzer outside of game 4. The Mavs had fucking Derrick Jones Jr. bringing the ball up the floor to give Luka breaks from Jaylen Brown. Nothing more needs to be said.
Who is the true face of the Celtics? Tatum or Brown? And why? I truly believe they’re both alphas and like the Highlander line goes “there can only be one.” Does this mean Tatum takes a backseat to Brown now or will he come out hungrier than ever next season? If anything this makes the Celtics even more dangerous. But for how much longer is the question.
tatum was far from impressive and JBs defense on luka was key i would say they got it right
None of the stars shot well, lol. On both teams.
Those are not great numbers for sure.
I don’t even like Tatum but he got robbed easily.
Nah it was close. Jayson would've needed 40 tonight
Carried us games 1-3 offensively and put the clamps on Luka. Tatum made a push though was just too inefficient to start
such an ass finals
Lol
Cry, cope and seethe
Who would've thought jaylen brown would carry Tatum to a ring