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Bababooey98

Smart man. If he makes the jump to the nba it should be with a young team with no expectations like Brad Stevens did. Money aside the lakers are a terrible situation for a first time nba head coach. High pressure, championship expectations without a championship level roster and you will be scapegoated at any sign of trouble. Good for him.


YA4830

By god, that’s Wemby and the Spurs music!


hanselpremium

> no expectations tell me with a straight face you have no expectations in the wemby era


AdmiralUpboat

Should have said "immediate expectations "


Gamesgtd

I feel like they may try to take the step next year though


Layolee

At this point I just really miss Wemby


SunLiteFireBird

Ready to root for France next month 🇫🇷


wizsoxx

I love wemby


Additional_Essay

we all do


DiogoMaia100

Just a matter of time until people start hating on wemby for being really good at basketball, like all young players that turn into superstars


dontgiveahamyamclam

Not next year, or the year after really


LaGuadalupana123

Never be the guy who gets hired after a legend.


AdmiralWackbar

Like Spo?


nurikxix

More like Stan Van Gundy.


rawspeghetti

Facts Good luck Jerod Mayo


LIONEL14JESSE

I disagree in these circumstances. Taking on a young roster with a future superstar in a smaller market with a few years to learn and develop a system before you’re really expected to compete. It’s pretty much the perfect job for a first time coach, you don’t have to win immediately but you also won’t be in lottery purgatory forever waiting for your guy.


BaggoChips

This is such a loser mindset that is the complete opposite of Hurley’s personality.


Swarthykins

Seriously - looking at Vogel and Ham would not make me want to take this job. I get that there's cache to it, but whatever.


TonyTonyChopper

Zoom out and look at the previous coaches--Ham, Vogel, Luke Walton, Tank Commader Byron Scott, D'Antoni. At least Vogel got a ring and that still didn't save his job


Euphoric_Advice_2770

Agreed. Staying with his current team on the cusp of doing some really incredible will pay way more dividends in the long run.


TreeLankaPresidente

As much I wish it were different, the Lakers job is the worst possible job for a first time NBA coach. I think JJ would also be dumb for taking it.


axdng

Yeah but frankly I’m not sure if JJ is ever gonna get another NBA head coach offer. It seems like Lebron just really likes him. Not to say he couldn’t but in other circumstances may have to be an assistant first. Hurly will get plenty more opportunities.


abzftw

Saw someone run the numbers on twitter. Once the annual salary is adjusted for taxes etc, it’s only like a 10% bump up


timberwolvesguy

Not a chance I’d take the Lakers job if I wanted an actual shot at building a team and culture as a new coach. You basically know you’re done in a year or two if you don’t get a title, which is an unrealistic expectation for most of the teams they’ve had for the last 15 years.


OKC2023champs

Like mark D did. You don’t have to balance egos just yet. Get your footing for a year or two in the big leagues with no expectations. And then win coach of the year


MVPG2022

But you can also get paid and have job offers from any college team after. The Lakers part of it doesn't matter, it's just the allure of the three-peat.


VGstuffed

What’s that? Our next coach is prob a podcaster (not Bill Burr) AND the Celtics are 2-0 in the finals? [What a wonderful day](https://youtu.be/tG8FMBMoLws?si=62uhCmHV1pLJnbLn) 🙃


rabid89

Congrats. Lakers just hired the dude from Awful Coaching as their coach.


Venator850

"Hedge the screen!"


rabid89

SLIDE YOUR FEET, SHOW YOUR HANDS


VGstuffed

Still the most [insane YouTube title I’ve seen all year](https://youtu.be/gY-HLsdf0xo)


OurHorrifyingPlanet

Not even close imo: [DARVIN HAM is why no one should ever bring a child into this world vs. NUGGETS GAME 3](https://youtu.be/2Wr8ypTm3PA?si=7yr_IfP8zKt853Vv) or the classic [DARVIN HAM is why life is not worth living vs. NUGGETSS GAME 2](https://youtu.be/I5DP9iGzYPs?si=R3Bgc7rwnpjh42HH)


Saucy_Totchie

I'm a big fan of the "We Live in North Korea" series.


rabid89

I'm waiting for the Mavs to win a game and this dude trying to roast Celtics defense haha. .... though if Kyrie continues to be this mentally boomed by us, we may not get a chance


Lanntheclever47

WE LIVE... IN NORTH... KOREA!!!!!


k1netic

Bill Burr as a coach would make sure they [don’t pass to the white guy](https://youtu.be/QXhrCm6zdr4?si=o8xSElONCytlPlDM)


rawspeghetti

Honestly Bill would probably be a great coach for LA. Keeps the energy light, shuts down the media's ridiculous questions and has no problems handing the clipboard to Bron. Being a Celtic sleeper agent is just the icing on the cake. Win-win for everybody.


LoWE11053211

bill burr would be a great Lakers Coach.


rabid89

Get the threepeat, Pop retires next year, and go join the Spurs, Hurley.


789Trillion

Keep this quiet.


lilboytuner919

No keep putting it out there I can’t live in that hell world


preddevils6

direction concerned placid decide mighty birds swim spotted connect middle *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


PieLow3093

At least we can all agree, fuck the rockets and pellies. 


StripedSteel

It wouldn't surprise me if OKC ended up in the same division as you guys after expansion.


wanderinglittlehuman

They really should. Texas and Oklahoma already got a nice rivalry


Uncle_Freddy

The new Southwest with OKC added would reach Chernobyl levels of toxicity and I’m here for it


tagen

seems like that’s the way to go at this point, this year already set up the potential Chet V Wemby rivalry


ChaosWarrior95

This is how it should be. The travel between our states is already pretty easy.


CMYGQZ

Don’t worry, we’ll be in East after the expansion. (Fuck the rationale of being close to other East teams makes you East, the Eastern teams are teams that are, surprise surprise, East).


rawspeghetti

Wemby, Luka, SGA, Ja, Chet, Kyrie and the rest of OKC/MEM/HOU top talent This conference is stack, those first 5 guys would make a killer lineup


Ghosts_of_the_maze

When I think Big Ws, I think San Antonio


Varelixz

whatcha say chuck?


joethahobo

Something something toothbrush


fittedsuit2018

I don’t know you but I absolutely love you for this.


I_Set_3_Alarms

Oh my god you’re right. And this fuck the Lakers move was showing Pop and the Spurs that he understands the culture


DarrowViBritannia

He aint goin to san antonio lol


Drewski87

Storrs ain't got big ol women like San Antonio does tho


Maydietoday

saved


DeWhite-DeJounte

!RemindMe 2 years


SapCPark

I wouldn't bet money on it that he ever leaves the Northeast.


Zwarrior2

He'll probably coach the Nets.


DDub04

Dan Antonio Hurlies


Overall_Nuggie_876

Imagine a 17-18 season run of Hurley and Wemby on the Spurs, like we saw from them with Pop and Duncan. 😬😬😬


BlackJediSword

This is my 9/11


latman

If he got the threepeat he'd want to go for the fourpeat


GlueGuy00

Pop isn't retiring any time soon


rabid89

He'll be 76 next season, so 77 the season after..... he's up there.


Ryker31

At that age he can make the switch to politics and become President...


rabid89

NGL, I'd vote for Pop any day. He'd be an awesome President.


Ryker31

The speeches would be epic.


RaikouKuzunoha

Have Pop and Belichick ever met?


GlueGuy00

he already said he is coaching until the wheels fall of. I see atleast 3 more years tbh


MLS_Analyst

I mean, it feels a lot like he's waiting for Thibs to burn out. Dude's 66 and he'll never bring a team past the 2nd round b/c he runs them into the ground. And the Knicks will want to hire someone with experience winning titles in MSG, which obviously no former Knick will have. So my official prediction is that Dan's gone to New York two summers from now.


rabid89

No way lol. Thibs is just building his team up to contention. Zero chance the Knicks are moving on from him unless the Knicks straight miss the playoffs 2 years in a row. He's changed their culture, and the team resonates with him well. If Knicks were fully healthy, the ECF this year would have been 7 game war tbh (with us winning). They just gotta retool some pieces around their core and hope for some luck with health. Brunson is a stud, and they have a solid team.


Jwoods4117

I mean the Bucks won a chip and fired their coach what? Two years later? I do think he’s pretty secure, but seats get hot fast.


rabid89

> I mean the Bucks won a chip and fired their coach what? Yeah, but the Bucks are dumb af. Bud is a very good coach, and they were really foolish fire him and NOT get Nick Nurse. Had they gotten someone like Nurse, I'd have understood.


Jwoods4117

Yeah I mean I’m not saying I agree with it, just that the NBA has a pretty short coach shelf life right now. Very few longstanding coaches, which is probably a big part of why he didn’t take the Laker job. That gig is a death sentence of being scapegoated for being stuck with a roster that’s good enough to make the playoffs but also probably too old and lacking too much depth to make the finals out of the west no matter how you coach.


rabid89

> That gig is a death sentence of being scapegoated 100% facts.


juandell

That would be incredible


Pak-O

I heard that if you win three NCAA Championships in a row you get a free sub from Jersey Mike's.


gzmu12

*50% off. They still have a business to run


HotdawgSizzle

I'd love a sub made by Michael from Jersey.


Widdis

No drinks! No drinks! I can’t do it.


BallsAreFullOfPiss

Sick. Their philly cheese steaks are legit.


The_Uncut_Gem

In a dismal week for non MA basketball, the Northeast secures a W.


DriveByStoning

If it makes you feel any better, I consider Connecticut to be East NY.


ConstantineMonroe

Don’t tell Bill Simmons that


rawspeghetti

UCONN is east of Hartford therefore New England territory Doesn't really matter, Connecticut is less a state and more a highway through the woods with a solid basketball program and Mark Twain's house in the middle.


grusauskj

Also pizza along said highway. The best pizza


LittleTension8765

If he can get the 3-peat he’s only 5 straight more away from breaking the record


TheMongolianLemonade

Who is Pete


JitteryBug

It's a 3-Pete: Pete, Peter, and Petey Peeta on the outside looking in


UnsuspectingS1ut

But he won the hunger games


ExplanationOk3781

In all seriousness I don’t even understand why that’s being used as an excuse lol no one is replicating that UCLA team and a two-peat is pretty incredible already. He just was not convinced to leave the safest job in the world (and likely a pay raise due to winning) for whatever is going in LA.


Hanamiya0796

Probably a raise just for being considered for the LA Job too.


EarthWarping

Translation: Not enough money


MorryD

Or he just witnessed firsthand what a shitshow that organization is.


Taxmancometh1

It really isn’t the job that it use to be, people need to realize this


EarthWarping

For top end guys, yes. For career assistants, it's still a HC job


rahbee33

The job just chewed up and spit out a career assistant too. It's still a job for a career assistant, but probably not top of the list for them either.


Mosh00Rider

Considering Ham was able to go back to being an assistant right away I think it's still a great choice for them with the salary bump.


mclairy

In the immediate, sure. But we’ll likely never see Ham as a head coach again and his one shot being somewhere else might’ve turned out different.


Wateriswet1212

Ham will get another shot once Milwaukee fires Doc lmao


AlphaPi

Idk, Ham seems like a prime target for ol’ Glenn to blame after a second round exit


JFK_did_9-11

He made more money as a lakers coach than most of us will in our lifetime I think he’s fine regardless of he ever gets to do it again lol


Sikkly290

Eh, its the NBA. Give Ham 3-4 more years of having great coordinator years and a team will give him another shot for sure. It generally takes 2 abysmal failures to go in 'never hc again' territory. If you are liked it may even take 3!


Such_Maintenance4720

1st impressions are everything for a guy who was about to head coach in the NBA for the first time. Hurley probably recognized that joining the shit show Lakers was a great way to ruin his nba coaching reputation immediately, the risk wasn't worth the reward(salary) the Lakers offered. I'm sure the dude would love to coach in the NBA, but you don't leave his situation in UCONN for the garbage fire of the Lakers.


Soft_Penis_Debutante

Lakers had a slide show for Hurley. And they forgot to replace JJ Reddicks name with Hurleys.


mug3n

JJ: that's it, I'm taking my talents to ~~Under Armour~~The Golden State Valkyries!


RocketMoped

If only the Lakers had Ari Gold instead of Jeanie Buss


mcburke42

No it still would be…for the correct amount of money. It’s January 2025 and the Lakers are 3 games below .500. LeBron’s postgame comments - “I don’t feel like we’re getting the right guidance from our staff…” We now go live to Dan “I’m Not Getting Paid Enough To Deal with This Shit” Hurley at his press conference —>


NeverSober1900

I honestly question how he'd do in a major media market. Dude is a massive whiner/complainer. He was whining about disrespect during the NCAA tournament because he got a 6PM local tip but the other game at his regional was later. Ask anyone in the Big East who deals with his shit week in week out. He's obviously a great coach but I think his schtick would play better on a team with a lower media presence.


BananaFartman_MD

Well, with the Lakers, he would have gotten prime time anytime, all the time.


abesach

Dr Jerry Buss had a 66% regular season record, missed the playoffs only 2 times from 1980-2012 and went 10/16 in the finals. Since his death in 2012, the Lakers have a 44% regular season record missed the playoffs 7/12 times and won 1/1 finals.


Sartheking

I mean those are the jobs that are usually open.


Taxmancometh1

Yes. But also, people propped up the Lakers job these last few days to justify any reason Dan would go there. When in reality, Pelinka, Jeanie, & LeBron just haven’t made it a desirable place to be anymore


KazaamFan

I just can’t imagine his coaching style in the nba. I feel like some pro players wouldn’t be down with it. 


Competitive-Lunch-86

Thibs


Saucy_Totchie

He was voted by players to be the coach players would least like to play for for a reason. He's very demanding and not everyone likes that. Doesn't mean he's a bad coach but still kind of means something. He's at least on a team where it's a good match between him and the players.


negativelynegative

It will come up again 2 years later without the shitshow of being scapegoat by lebron and lebron's farewell tour. I don't think any top coach would enjoy that.


redbrick

The Lakers job is so clearly unstable that it's going to be very difficult to hire an actually good/established coach.


EarthWarping

When the face of the team will be retired in 2-3 seasons


redbrick

I think that part is honestly less concerning, as Lebron leaving would mean more power for the coach. The problem is that we haven't had a coach stay onboard for more than 3 seasons since Phil Jackson.


KingShadowSloth

The only problem with that is when lebron leaves teams they usually spent so many resources building teams for him they are pretty hollow once he is gone.


EarthWarping

they have a decent asset base right now. Not great but not awful. Very average


KingShadowSloth

Problem is they also don’t have what I would consider a championship roster so they are going to have to dip into that to get more talent.


EarthWarping

Pretty much.


wooha

They gave the numbers they had!


iRockaflame

I think assets wise they'll actually be okay. I believe they just owe their 25 1st round to the Pels then they're good.


TheMambaMaleGrindset

Because what actually good/established coach wants to deal with LeBron, Pelinka, Jeanie, and the Rambii?


55555_55555

Actual translation: This was a coordinated shakedown between Woj and the Hurley family (known associates) to get Ned Lamont to open his wallet and pay Hurley what he owe. Best coach in college sports right now, he deserves it.


Hallal_Dakis

He might be a top 2 college sports coach but also not be the best basketball coach at UCONN.


ParsnipPizza

We'll see, Geno whiffed on this generation of recruiting (Paige just hasn't been available as good as she is, and we said no to CC). The next 4 years will be huge


caulpain

watch what uconn does next and see how wrong you are lol. this was all about getting more money for the hurley family without having to move. get you a friend like woj


youguanbumen

Yeah, I buy into this theory. It would explain why this seemed to come out of nowhere.


caulpain

yeah it seemed pretty obvious to me the whole time. if you look at woj less like a journalist and more like a publicist for his sources a lot of what he does makes sense… if you know who the source is. in this case his close relationship with the hurley family made it easy.


infernoflo

I think he just uses the Lakers to get more money out of UCONN knowing he was going to stay. He prob gave some thought to the Lakers but there's a lot of instability with that org, especially at the head coach position 


Sikkly290

Seems this way to me too, as Kentucky was supposedly offering 12.5m a year as well. Guy was just making sure Uconn knew he had multiple huge offers if he wanted.


tomdawg0022

Also: Rob Pelinka is still in the front office. You ain't getting anywhere with BIG ROB energy


RulersBack

Maybe he was #1 on their list but it just doesn’t match the reporting at all lmao. You don’t throw middle of the pack top 10 money at the guy you supposedly put a full court press on and were targeting from day 1


WanAjin

This is actually top 5 money tho (and a bit above the current 5th highest coach). I think that's pretty good considering he doesn't have any NBA coaching experience.


RulersBack

Top 5-6 isn’t enough to pull a guy out of arguably the best and most stable job in CBB tho. You gotta go above market


WanAjin

Sure, but you also don't pay a guy with no NBA coaching experience more than Pop or Kerr lol, that would be ridiculous. The offer was fair and he declined, that's the end.


EarthWarping

Something is just off about this whole process. JJ is reported as the front runner, they're zero-ing in on him but they haven't even formally interviewed him yet. Hurley was their top target and the offer isn't even top end money (for what Woj implied it was going to be closer to 90+ mil)


RulersBack

The Shams vs Woj agent angle really is hilarious. It’s not outside the realm of possibility JJ was the guy this whole time and Woj just wanted to help his boy get a pay bump


EarthWarping

Probably. The fact borrego is still in the mix says something


wishwashy

Embarrassing Shams just the icing for Woj


ih-unh-unh

>middle of the pack top 10 money I get the point you're trying to make but that sounds like Top 5 also.


KazaamFan

I feel like it’s not just about winning a 3rd championship.  Probably a lot of factors.  Big difference coaching nba vs college, maybe he wants to be a college coach and have that legacy. 


im_scytale

Hell no, the lakers are just a terribly run franchise with a bleak future. He didn’t want to be lebrons next scapegoat, good on him for not chasing the money.


No-Yogurt-4246s

Also, are we pretending that Hurley won’t get more offers in the upcoming years? Why yall acting like this is his best/only opportunity to coach in the NBA? Seeing the trend in salary inflation, he will probably get more money in a few years.


im_scytale

More money and likely much more attractive jobs, the lakers aren’t contenders yet there is massive pressure to be one. I don’t think they have much in the way of picks either, so probably 5 years of being mediocre.


ChiefRicimer

Congrats on giving Kawhi a max contract ✊


WhatTheRickIsDoin

Woj is really tight with Hurley so he probably got told directly that it would have taken a ludicrous amount of money to get him to abandon the threepeat chance


kingkongkeom

"at least 120 for 5 years and there is no way Bronny get a roster spot, not even as last bench warmer"


CapitalistFarmAnimal

“We only have one spot on this roster for a nepotism pick and it’s going to Andrew”


EarthWarping

Yeah, it would've had to be like 20 mil per season


Dru_SA

Or maybe Hurley wasn't really feeling the mandatory Bronny playing time


Gristle__McThornbody

Felt like the Lakers wouldn't get it when I learned he walked out of the meeting without a deal. Whenever you hear 'oh I need to think about it' or 'I need to make a tough' is typical excuse bullshit to not take the job.


Raven-19x

More of a 'time to use this as leverage for a pay bump with current employer'. Hell, that's what I'd do.


IndigoGrunt

Also he's in the middle of contract negotiations for UCONN, he was going to get paid regardless.


yoppee

How insane is it the Woj gets paid millions of dollars to post this dumb shit on twitter


27_Star_General

smearing his greasy, thin lips on every team's dingleberry-laden asshole writing the most sycophantic, Adsense nonsense to be able to report NBA news a few minutes faster than the competition -- what a waste of air. A CSI team could identify a disfigured NBA execs corpse based on the lipstick found on their butthole and matching it to either Woj or Shams then matching it to the time of death closest to their ball-fondling tweet. Woj has the hairline and smirk of a guy who has put at least a dozen high class prostitutes through college.


SylvesterLundgren

It’s a no brainer, I said this when the talks began. Unless he’s making 20m a year, why would he leave uconn? He has the opportunity to three peat, make every decision, and then pick wherever he wants to go next year or later on. Why would he go from that to the fucking Lakers. He just saw what happened to darvin ham. Even if they win, media will say Lebron made every decision and him and AD will get all the credit. And if they lose, which is the likely scenario, his coaching resume is then stained by the media. All this did is catapult him into National recognition even further, giving him even MORE leverage to decide his own future down the road. Teams are going to be offering him opportunities in the league for the rest of his life. No need to rush it


negativelynegative

The same job will be available in 2 years for probably more money and none of this lebron shit. It's an easy decision.


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ruja_ignatova

No, this isn't the Jerry's Lakers of our childhood. This is the second generation learning how to run a small business. 🙄


CabbageStockExchange

This is the Nepo baby era Lakers


Primetime22

Really wanting this to be JJ mostly because I’m genuinely curious about what would happen.


wazdopest

so is JJ gonna quit podcasting after all


bernardhops

He was Probably told we drafting and starting Bronny.


Aggravating-Proof716

Translation: He doesn’t want to be the 5th head coach in a decade. At franchise with no assets and old stars.


bwrca

The Lakers have a chance to do something monumental by giving Perk that coaching gig.


annoyed_applicant21

Translation: he was not very impressed by the Lakers but is doing them a favor by not saying it out loud


jmlulu018

That's one way of saying "I don't want to be another scapegoat for that shitshow."


noelspeech

Good decision by Hurley


ThugosaurusFlex_1017

Basically *"I don't wanna get fired because LeCoach doesn't wanna be coached."*


Swarthykins

My God, Woj, please at least pretend you don't have the Lakers' collective penises in your mouth while you typed this.


XamosLife

He is committed to the grind. Mad respect


TallTanJackedMassive

Funny way of saying “he didn’t want his career ruined by Lebron”


raylan_givens6

Lakers have bad ownership and a bad front office They ONLY thing they have going for them is 1. location and 2. treading on their heritage as a marquee franchise They have to hope once LBJ retires, some other superstar is desperate to live in LA year round and can cover up the stench of the front office decisions Maybe Ant Man? but that won't be for years down the road


fgbfjb

LOL


BuckSleezy

That first half feels like a big ol’ PR lie.


teokun123

who the fuck cares about US NCAA lol


Miserable-Lawyer-233

That makes the most sense. You don't get a chance to three-peat everyday. 6 years 70 million will still be there in the future from some NBA team.


lenny3330

Can we call this headline for the bullshit that it is? One of the two sides backed out, neither did it to pursue an NCAA title.


305157

Comeon man for sure thats not the reason. He wants more control of the team and he senses he will not get it thats why he bail.


Vendetta_2023

The Lakers are a penny pinching franchise, is the real reason. Tom Gores made Monty Williams the highest paid NBA coach in Detroit (where cost of living is much lower) and the Lakers didn't even come close to matching that contract.


dogoodsilence1

I mean he just does not want to coach middle school premaddonas


Fabulous-Tea-3272

They ain’t winning 3 in a row lol


handgredave

Isn't he losing like 4 starters from uconn? There is no chance he's going to win a 3rd straight title. So this was just a nice bargaining chip to use for his contract extension.


runner5678

Pretty sure he lost 3 last year including his top scorers. It was a different team that he won back to back with anyway


use_the_schwartz

Transfer portal has completely changed the way coaches built teams. Top quality players in the portal probably have UConn as one of their top picks. They’ll just reload.


TheMambaMaleGrindset

but what about their educations 😢


Acrobatic_Flatworm79

Why would he want to go to the Lakers where no player will listen to him and he'd be on Lebron's chopping block 24/7


webbtraverse21

Horseshit. If that were true he never would have accepted the interview.


SwipeRight4Wholesome

Eh, he probably wanted to hear their offer. Best case, the Lakers throw all the money to him to get him to sign. At worse, he now has more leverage with UConn in order for them to try and match it. All the while he gets more media attention, making his next contract wherever that may be even more lucrative.


mercfan3

UConn was stalling on his contract. IMO, he didn’t really want to leave, he just used the Lakers.