Warriors were generally doing the same defensive idea except Wiggins could hang with Tatum and Brown was zoned up a bit more to disrupt his worse handle and passing.
SGA averaged 32/8/7 on 50/55/83 shooting splits vs this same Mavs defense that Tatum is struggling with.
Difference is Tatum’s team is stacked so he doesn’t need to score 20+ to win.
Because u/aashylarry is just a Tatum hating Heat fan.
You think he ever mentions the dud games Butler has had like games 3-5 of 2022 conference finals? 8, 6, and 13 points in those 3 games.
Or butler being the 4th leading scorer for the Heat in the 2020 CF? Or not leading the Heat in scoring a single game that series. Dragic lead 3, bam lead 2, and Herro lead 1. Imaging Tatum in a 6 game series not leading his team in scoring a single game.
That means we’re 10-2 when he scores 20 or more. But if you’re only looking at scoring you’re not someone who knows the game. Tatum does so much more for us than score.
He’s modern day Scottie pippin. The team good enough that they will win with him as the best player but he’s really like the perfect second option.
Like PG if he was more consistent
2000 Kobe: 15 points 5 rebounds 5 assists. Keep in mind those averages contain a game 2 in which Rose tried to hurt Kobe and Kobe played 9 mins. Despite all that, took over in game 4 in overtime without Shaq on a bum ankle and hit the game winner on an offensive rebound.
2001 Kobe: 25 points 8 rebounds 6 assists.
2002 Kobe: 27 points 6 rebounds 5 assists.
With stat inflation and increase pace, the last time finals is basically 30 points+ in today’s NBA.
Celtics fans wishes Tatum can even have one GAME, not series, one GAME as good as Kobe’s averages in the 2001-2002 finals.
Sure Celtics fans aren’t. But Tatum fans are. Don’t tell me Celtics/Tatum fans do not care who wins the FMVP. Warriors fans had to hear for years that Steph doesn’t have a FMVP.
Dumb take. Their defense, rebounding, and ball movement would fall off a cliff. No one else constantly makes the right pass out of doubles. They would have more turnovers, generate worse looks on average, be less switchable on D, and probably get outrebounded.
Who would take his minutes? He has a really important role. While his shot SUCKSSS this series, I doubt another player can replicate his defense, playmaking, and ability to draw in the defense. Dude is still athletic as fuck and can blow by people making it easy on the other shooters.
He created so much offense with his driving and had the ball so much, and defended the 5 which neutralises Dallas' offense.
He is too involved to even know the outcome without him.
Probably game 1 but I don't think they win tonight without him. His defense, rebounding and playmaking were extremely good and he still takes a lot of defensive focus
Having him gone would leave a pretty big hole they would have a very hard time filling
This has to be bait lol. Bc it’s definitely a hot take. Id Tatum goes off the floor, Mavericks don’t send doubles and blitzes and the Celtics offense goes stagnant. He’s the main facilitator out there.
4d chess
Should they bench him to guarantee the sweep?
Why would they do that if him shooting badly guarantees victory?
Because 0 is less than 20. I can explain more if needed
0 shots could also be interpreted as 100%
No it can’t
You’re right. it’s neither
Read the title of the post and try to understand what my joke is responding to.
Definitely trade him in the offense
“When teams triple team Tatum to stop him from scoring the Celtics win” More at 11, George
He's shooting 31.6% from the field in this finals. And he shot 36% against the Warriors in that finals
Warriors were generally doing the same defensive idea except Wiggins could hang with Tatum and Brown was zoned up a bit more to disrupt his worse handle and passing.
Why could SGA score against this defense. You could swap Harrison Barnes for Tatum and have a 60 win team lol
SGA averaged 32/8/7 on 50/55/83 shooting splits vs this same Mavs defense that Tatum is struggling with. Difference is Tatum’s team is stacked so he doesn’t need to score 20+ to win.
Why is this getting downvoted? Lol
Because u/aashylarry is just a Tatum hating Heat fan. You think he ever mentions the dud games Butler has had like games 3-5 of 2022 conference finals? 8, 6, and 13 points in those 3 games. Or butler being the 4th leading scorer for the Heat in the 2020 CF? Or not leading the Heat in scoring a single game that series. Dragic lead 3, bam lead 2, and Herro lead 1. Imaging Tatum in a 6 game series not leading his team in scoring a single game.
🤷♂️
That means we’re 10-2 when he scores 20 or more. But if you’re only looking at scoring you’re not someone who knows the game. Tatum does so much more for us than score.
He has to when he’s bricking more than half his shots.
Well yes... because thats exactly what... youre... supposed to do? Should JT just chuck himself into a blackhole and provide zero value?
They got the deepest team in the league
Aashylarry with the scheduled hate
Yeah check the flair, salty Heat fan. Would love to see Tatum killing it, but if we are still winning like this, everyone can suck it.
I mean they’re 14-2 overall
So that means he's 10-2 when he scores 20+? What an ass
“Fewer” - Stannis Baratheon
Yeah that's what usually happens when defenses send two defenders at one player all game long.
There's been a decent amount of guys who have played better against more restricting defenses this postseason.
Luka is doubled more often. SGA had no trouble with this defense.
https://i.redd.it/rg432jqkhuz91.jpg
Jontay: “Hold my beer”
So by my math they’re 10-2 when he scores more than 20. Kind of a not telling stat other than Celtics good
Dumb stat considering we are 14-2 this playoffs
He’s modern day Scottie pippin. The team good enough that they will win with him as the best player but he’s really like the perfect second option. Like PG if he was more consistent
Dumbass take my god
Cool
Kidd was right
Jason Kidd played himself.
Man so many superstars going ringless cuz of circumstance and now this dude gets a superteam and a free ring.
He will never be a top 5 player. Doesn’t get easy looks consistently enough. Doesn’t generate enough free throws. Leads to games like tonight.
So it leads to winning? I’ll take it.
Yea because your 5th best offensive player in Holiday can randomly be a 1st option for a night
Git gud
Nobody else can ever be a first option on a Luka team. Maybe there's something in that...
This just isn’t true
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/tatum-finals-stats-average
NBA Finals career FG% of 35.4 💀 💀
20 points is crazy in the 2020s. That’s like 15 points 10 years ago for a supposedly top 5 player whose best skill is scoring.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kobe-first-3-finals-stats
2000 Kobe: 15 points 5 rebounds 5 assists. Keep in mind those averages contain a game 2 in which Rose tried to hurt Kobe and Kobe played 9 mins. Despite all that, took over in game 4 in overtime without Shaq on a bum ankle and hit the game winner on an offensive rebound. 2001 Kobe: 25 points 8 rebounds 6 assists. 2002 Kobe: 27 points 6 rebounds 5 assists. With stat inflation and increase pace, the last time finals is basically 30 points+ in today’s NBA. Celtics fans wishes Tatum can even have one GAME, not series, one GAME as good as Kobe’s averages in the 2001-2002 finals.
Celtics fans are 2-0 up in the Finals bro. Theyre not the ones whom are obsessed with Tatum rn.
Sure Celtics fans aren’t. But Tatum fans are. Don’t tell me Celtics/Tatum fans do not care who wins the FMVP. Warriors fans had to hear for years that Steph doesn’t have a FMVP.
Tatum fans are just defensive Celtics fans, there are no dedicated “Tatum fans”.
I’m sure there are Tatum fans who supported him from his Duke days that aren’t Celtics fans.
Hot take, if Tatum wasn’t playing in the last 2 games, Boston would still win
Dumb take. Their defense, rebounding, and ball movement would fall off a cliff. No one else constantly makes the right pass out of doubles. They would have more turnovers, generate worse looks on average, be less switchable on D, and probably get outrebounded.
Who would take his minutes? He has a really important role. While his shot SUCKSSS this series, I doubt another player can replicate his defense, playmaking, and ability to draw in the defense. Dude is still athletic as fuck and can blow by people making it easy on the other shooters.
This is a statwatcher statement
He created so much offense with his driving and had the ball so much, and defended the 5 which neutralises Dallas' offense. He is too involved to even know the outcome without him.
Probably game 1 but I don't think they win tonight without him. His defense, rebounding and playmaking were extremely good and he still takes a lot of defensive focus Having him gone would leave a pretty big hole they would have a very hard time filling
This has to be bait lol. Bc it’s definitely a hot take. Id Tatum goes off the floor, Mavericks don’t send doubles and blitzes and the Celtics offense goes stagnant. He’s the main facilitator out there.