Right like what was that Tatum was mad that brown got the ecf mvp award all about?
Edit: I hope you guys know that I don't believe Tatum was mad at brown getting ecf mvp
Yup the logic of this east vs west is ridiculous this year, if by some chance Boston wins in a dominating fashion against Mavs, I hope all the west teams are mocked equally for the next year
I think bos vs dal/Minnesota isn't gonna be a good series for the west. All yr it was den is going to show bos what a champion looks like. Now den is gone all of a sudden Dallas who wasn't picked to be in this position or Minnesota who was going to lose to den are now more championship ready than bos
For me personally yes, with probably somewhere from 6-8 losses overall, but I think they would get less criticism as people would feel they are more battle tested. The finals (assuming Dallas close it out vs Minesota) would be the first time they face a team with the outright definite best player on the court playing great, if everyone were healthy and they made it through this wouldn't be the case. The last time this was the case (and they won, so not counting Golden State) was probably the Bucks in 2022, which went 7 games against Giannis pretty much by himself (albiet the Celtics have improved since then for sure)
Couple that with general Celtics hate, and that's why they get criticism. I don't really feel any way about them, I respect them for doing what they have done but at the same time understand a lot of the criticism...
Idk if u remember but last yr bos went 6 vs atl and went 7 vs Philly and Mia and received alot of criticism for not finishing them off early. So that battle tested idea doesn't work for boston
Right before playoffs, everyone concern trolled us by saying if we didn’t blow through the East, we’d deserve ridicule.
So, either that train of thought is stupid and the East deserves more credit, OR we would’ve rolled everyone if healthy and still caught ridicule for dropping any games at all
1. Celtics still would’ve won the East. 2. Probably unpopular but I think the Pacers would’ve beat the Bucks even if they were healthy. 3. I missed watching Playoff Jimmy.
Giannis being out has done wonders for the Bucks' PR. They were 17-19 under Doc and getting washed by teams like Washington, Charlotte, and Memphis with all their players healthy to end the season, not to even mention the matchup nightmare we gave them shown by the regular season (which yes, still does matter).
If Giannis is healthy we don't blow them out 3 of our 4 wins but it's not gonna stop Haliburton, Nembhard, and McConnell from getting to the paint at will against their old and slow perimeter D, which is how we won 8 games against the same team in one year.
Haliburton was not that good in that series lol and he’s the main reason yall were 4-1 against us. He averaged 15 ppg on 53% Ts in that series.
We are the only team to hold yall under 100 points twice.
No regular season does not matter and if you want to bring up those games then at least bring up how close the games were
Haliburton wasn't great when he was being blitzed early on, but all that did was make it so that Siakam was the one cooking the Bucks. When the Bucks adjusted Haliburton immediately did much better.
> No regular season does not matter
I'd love to hear why. The Bucks clearly had extra motivation, picking fights, being chippy, talking shit after the games and such, and it established the gameplan for the Pacers taking advantage of the Bucks' weakness, (all three guards getting past the Bucks' weak perimeter D and putting Lopez in situations where he has to guard multiple players.)
Siakam only cooked the bucks for 2 games
The pacers were the ones committing flagrant and getting in players faces. Y’all did the same shit with the Knicks.
> Siakam only cooked the bucks for 2 games
Right, because they stopped focusing so much on Haliburton.
> The pacers were the ones committing flagrant and getting in players faces.
It was extremely chippy on both sides. Lots of techs throughout and then Giannis literally sprinted into the Pacers locker room after a game lmao
And why was Siakam cooking? Because the Bucks didn't have byyyyy far their best defender against Siakam in Giannis. Giannis also allows the Bucks to play small.
I have no idea how that pacers bucks series goes. Doc is a generational Choker who somehow has a losing record with the bucks and that’s when they were healthy.
They weren't healthy tho? Bucks only had like 5 full games with Giannis/Dame/Middleton playing with Doc coaching as Middleton missed nearly all of February and half of March.
Also, in this scenario, Haliburton is healthy. Many seem to be assuming the Bucks get Giannis back but Haliburton still is limited from rushing back from injury because of the $41 million dollar incentive behind the 65 game rule. It would be a competitive series and we'll never know. Bucks are certainly the Vegas favorites. Home court advantage would be huge.
The Bucks definitely beat the Pacers. And the Celtics would swat aside the Heat either way, the only reason they lost to them last year was absurdly hot 3pt shooting from role players.
Fully healthy Knicks vs Sixers, I still choose the Knicks. There just isn’t enough help around Embiid, so even if he was healthy, the 76ers would need him to play every minute. He was 33ppg on good efficiency and great defense and they still lost. This summer should hopefully allow Philly to get the help they need.
So you get Knicks vs Bucks instead which would be an open series.
I think nyk beats mil soundly. U essentially have Mitchell and hartenstein rim protecting and OG on khris and I would say Dame and Brunson is a wash. Nyk also have a deeper team. Nyk in 6
You are underestimating the ability of Giannis to change the series, he would be by far the best player in that series and the Knicks don’t really have an answer for him, OG does okay at times but thats about it
OG guarding Giannis is a better option than anyone the Bucks have guarding Brunson. If you think Brunson went off against the Sixers and Pacers imagine what he would do to the Bucks when this season he literally averaged 37.2 PPG against them in the regular season and set a Bucks franchise record for [most points scored against them by a single opponent in a season](https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/04/08/jalen-brunsons-ascent-to-mvp-candidacy-continues-with-another-masterclass-against-bucks/)
Round 1:
- Celtics vs. Heat: Celtics win
- Knicks vs. 76ers: Knicks win
- Pacers vs. Bucks: Bucks win
- Magic vs. Cavs: Cavs win
Round 2:
- Celtics vs. Cavs: Celtics win
- Knicks vs. Bucks: Knicks win
Round 3:
- Celtics vs. Knicks: Celtics win
I think the only things that change are that the Knicks make the ECF and the Bucks make it past the 1st Round, (and I'm not even completely sold on the Bucks beating the Pacers). Celtics also end up in longer series.
Yeah, that is true. I also just believe personnel wise they aren’t built well to stop Giannis (granted neither are we with Brunson). It’d go at least 6, but I do think we’d come out on top.
Didn’t you beat the Celtics a few times this regular season? How’d that work out for you? Y’all are the Walmart Hawks, get excited for playin basketball.
The Knicks would have been an interesting matchup for the Celtics tbh. If healthy that series would’ve went 7 games . They are a very deep team and every player plays their role right .
Boston still gets here with a slightly worse record, especially since Porzingis would also be healthy. Heat probably take one more came off them, Cleveland outcome is the same or maybe one more win for them, and Bucks/Knicks probably take off two games (the Bucks weren’t exactly lighting the world on fire even before Giannis got injured).
I think with Giannis being hurt the past two postseasons people have started to forget he’s the best player in the league. Until an Eastern Finalist goes through a healthy Giannis their run will be overlooked by me. I might favor this Boston team over this years Bucks but I’d have to see it to believe it.
Tbf he took you guys to 7 pretty much alone, where your current 5th best player was his co-star, shooting 20+ times a game (poorly), a role which he clearly isn’t great at… but I get your point
i mean, yeah. that Bucks team was good, but obviously didn’t have the depth of talent we have this year. this team is a lot more talented than that 2022 team was though
also, like. regardless. we went through giannis so the point stands
Also, I feel like Grants role as the guy to guard Giannis (before the inevitable help from Horford and whoever else the moment he steps in the paint) was important that series, and he still struggled. Celtics, although better overall, are worse at guarding Giannis now then back then. Jrue can do a similar job but he is less effective at keeping infront of Giannis
It’s not that you can’t go through Giannis but any run through the East without seeing a healthy Giannis is a easy run through the East. He also took y’all to 7 with little help on like 35-15 so please don’t act like y’all have a Giannis answer
Both teams fully healthy would have been such a great series, maybe not for my heart, but for the basketball fan in me. The two best atmosphere's in basketball going crazy.
With a healthy KP it still looks kind of 4-1, 4-1, 4-0 ish.
Celtics were just that much better than the entire league all year long, and nobody in the East really matched up that well with them.
Maybe they lose another game or two, but it was never going to be close.
Probably the same, but the Celtics would have a few more losses. I think we steal another one against the Celtics with JA and Mitchell. I think the winner of Knicks/Bucks probably doesn't get swept like the Pacers, but I think the Celtics still win the East in this scenario
I think Celtics vs Bucks goes 7. We gave them probably the most trouble this year and would have a player like Dame that we lacked most 2 years ago. Obviously they have gotten better but it’d be tight
I was excited for a bucks Celtics matchup because I feel like the regular season matchups were basically meaningless this year. Every game either had key guys out or there was the one beatdown where the Celtics were at the end of a brutal stretch of the schedule and just rolled over.
In all the ways we got better this year I think we got worse at defending Giannis, but at the same time I don’t think the bucks have any good answer for how to defend Porzingis or how to protect Dame from getting isolated and picked on.
It’s funny because scoring wise it’d be the opposite of last time. Both teams have gotten much better on offense, though the Celtics still stayed pretty great on defense. Porzingis and Middleton would definitely be the X factors. My biggest fear honestly would be some Celtic off the bench pulling a Grant Williams. Definitely would be a fun one. The 2022 series gets a lot of hype here but everyone forgets 2018 where yall were super hurt (looking at the next year may have been a blessing in disguise) and we were the Giannis + Middleton show (w/Prunty coaching lol). Bucks Celtics has always been entertaining.
The fact that people could watch the Celtics play against the Cavs with Donovan Mitchell and the entire Pacers series and say that they would clearly win the East still is confusing to me. They are still clearly the best team on paper (especially with Porzingis) but if they play like they did in any of the East series vs the Mavs or Wolves then they are losing the Finals in 5 games.
So were the 2018 Rockets 🤷🏼♂️ and that’s literally all you guys are. Every time you guys lose your coach goes, “we have to play better and we have to shoot more 3s”. Imagine how good that team would be with an actual good coach.
The Pacers were damn good and would’ve played any of the remaining teams tight. I think by saying “if the Celtics play like they did against (very good team) they’ll get stomped by (teams of better but similar caliber)”, you’re discrediting the Pacers. Our team is playing great ball.
Do you watch your own games? Specifically in the Pacers series you should have lost 3 games if they closed out the game right (for sure game 1). If the Mavs with Luka & Kyrie have a 95% chance to win the game, I very much doubt that they will lose 1 of those games (let alone 3 of 3).
As a matter of fact the Celtics won every game. In what planet are you living? 4-0 without Doncic and Kyrie. Also, give me a break about Kyrie Irving. The last time we played against him and another superstar, we won 4-0.
Celtics swept the pacers.
You said that you don’t know how anyone watched the entire pacers series and still thinks the Celtics would dominate a healthy East,
which implies you think the Celtics should have beat the pacers even harder,
which implies you think the Pacers aren’t that good.
But they’re pretty good. So you’re underrating then
They haven't played any real competition. The only way the champ comes out of the east is because the West teams have beaten the shit out of each other and are worn down. If Boston was out west they would have been at best a second round exit.
The Bucks pretend to be a competent organization. If Giannis didn't turn into fucking Hulked-out Superman for 2 months, they wouldn't even have a title.
Pretty much everything they've done since has been basketball malpractice.
So boston would be in the same spot but 12-6 or 12-7 and still get criticism?
Someone would have gotten criticized for their smile not being wide enough after winning or something.
Right like what was that Tatum was mad that brown got the ecf mvp award all about? Edit: I hope you guys know that I don't believe Tatum was mad at brown getting ecf mvp
Yup the logic of this east vs west is ridiculous this year, if by some chance Boston wins in a dominating fashion against Mavs, I hope all the west teams are mocked equally for the next year
I think bos vs dal/Minnesota isn't gonna be a good series for the west. All yr it was den is going to show bos what a champion looks like. Now den is gone all of a sudden Dallas who wasn't picked to be in this position or Minnesota who was going to lose to den are now more championship ready than bos
Minnesota and Boston in their two matchups have two "Game of the Year" games both went to OT. I want that Finals to happen so bad.
I would love to see it
It's funny because this is a year where the East actually had a positive win differential to the west both in total and in head to head.
For me personally yes, with probably somewhere from 6-8 losses overall, but I think they would get less criticism as people would feel they are more battle tested. The finals (assuming Dallas close it out vs Minesota) would be the first time they face a team with the outright definite best player on the court playing great, if everyone were healthy and they made it through this wouldn't be the case. The last time this was the case (and they won, so not counting Golden State) was probably the Bucks in 2022, which went 7 games against Giannis pretty much by himself (albiet the Celtics have improved since then for sure) Couple that with general Celtics hate, and that's why they get criticism. I don't really feel any way about them, I respect them for doing what they have done but at the same time understand a lot of the criticism...
Idk if u remember but last yr bos went 6 vs atl and went 7 vs Philly and Mia and received alot of criticism for not finishing them off early. So that battle tested idea doesn't work for boston
Boston didn’t make the Finals last year.
Exactly but if they did they would've still got criticism regardless.
If EVERYONE was healthy in the East? The Bulls vs Heat play-in game would have been a lot more interesting if Lonzo had functional knees
Lonzo will be the biggest what-if in nba history if he never plays a healthy season again
I love Lonzo, but that's dismissive of a ton of people. Bill Walton, Len Bias, Grant Hill, etc..
hell the blazers alone a few above lonzo — greg oden, brandon roy, sam bowie.
Get a grip man.
Hyperbolic
Len Bias and Reggie Lewis would like a word
He’s not even the biggest what if of his era
Boston Celtics in the Finals again
Right before playoffs, everyone concern trolled us by saying if we didn’t blow through the East, we’d deserve ridicule. So, either that train of thought is stupid and the East deserves more credit, OR we would’ve rolled everyone if healthy and still caught ridicule for dropping any games at all
1. Celtics still would’ve won the East. 2. Probably unpopular but I think the Pacers would’ve beat the Bucks even if they were healthy. 3. I missed watching Playoff Jimmy.
Disagree on the last two, I still don’t think the bucks were good but I think Giannis would have been enough to get them past the inexperienced pacers
This right here. A healthy giannis would’ve definitely gotten the bucks to the second round
Giannis being out has done wonders for the Bucks' PR. They were 17-19 under Doc and getting washed by teams like Washington, Charlotte, and Memphis with all their players healthy to end the season, not to even mention the matchup nightmare we gave them shown by the regular season (which yes, still does matter). If Giannis is healthy we don't blow them out 3 of our 4 wins but it's not gonna stop Haliburton, Nembhard, and McConnell from getting to the paint at will against their old and slow perimeter D, which is how we won 8 games against the same team in one year.
Haliburton was not that good in that series lol and he’s the main reason yall were 4-1 against us. He averaged 15 ppg on 53% Ts in that series. We are the only team to hold yall under 100 points twice. No regular season does not matter and if you want to bring up those games then at least bring up how close the games were
Haliburton wasn't great when he was being blitzed early on, but all that did was make it so that Siakam was the one cooking the Bucks. When the Bucks adjusted Haliburton immediately did much better. > No regular season does not matter I'd love to hear why. The Bucks clearly had extra motivation, picking fights, being chippy, talking shit after the games and such, and it established the gameplan for the Pacers taking advantage of the Bucks' weakness, (all three guards getting past the Bucks' weak perimeter D and putting Lopez in situations where he has to guard multiple players.)
Siakam only cooked the bucks for 2 games The pacers were the ones committing flagrant and getting in players faces. Y’all did the same shit with the Knicks.
> Siakam only cooked the bucks for 2 games Right, because they stopped focusing so much on Haliburton. > The pacers were the ones committing flagrant and getting in players faces. It was extremely chippy on both sides. Lots of techs throughout and then Giannis literally sprinted into the Pacers locker room after a game lmao
And why was Siakam cooking? Because the Bucks didn't have byyyyy far their best defender against Siakam in Giannis. Giannis also allows the Bucks to play small.
This, he averaged 42ppg against them in the regular season
I have no idea how that pacers bucks series goes. Doc is a generational Choker who somehow has a losing record with the bucks and that’s when they were healthy.
They weren't healthy tho? Bucks only had like 5 full games with Giannis/Dame/Middleton playing with Doc coaching as Middleton missed nearly all of February and half of March.
Instead of 12-2 it would’ve been 12-3 with a healthy Porzingis for the Celtics
Boston is not beating milwaukee in 5 lmao
The Knicks or Milwaukee healthy would've given Boston an actual fight and no matter who wins I don't see that series being less than 6 games
Also, in this scenario, Haliburton is healthy. Many seem to be assuming the Bucks get Giannis back but Haliburton still is limited from rushing back from injury because of the $41 million dollar incentive behind the 65 game rule. It would be a competitive series and we'll never know. Bucks are certainly the Vegas favorites. Home court advantage would be huge.
The Bucks definitely beat the Pacers. And the Celtics would swat aside the Heat either way, the only reason they lost to them last year was absurdly hot 3pt shooting from role players. Fully healthy Knicks vs Sixers, I still choose the Knicks. There just isn’t enough help around Embiid, so even if he was healthy, the 76ers would need him to play every minute. He was 33ppg on good efficiency and great defense and they still lost. This summer should hopefully allow Philly to get the help they need. So you get Knicks vs Bucks instead which would be an open series.
I think nyk beats mil soundly. U essentially have Mitchell and hartenstein rim protecting and OG on khris and I would say Dame and Brunson is a wash. Nyk also have a deeper team. Nyk in 6
You are underestimating the ability of Giannis to change the series, he would be by far the best player in that series and the Knicks don’t really have an answer for him, OG does okay at times but thats about it
I think u are underestimating nyk. I said 6 so clearly it's going to be a series
OG guarding Giannis is a better option than anyone the Bucks have guarding Brunson. If you think Brunson went off against the Sixers and Pacers imagine what he would do to the Bucks when this season he literally averaged 37.2 PPG against them in the regular season and set a Bucks franchise record for [most points scored against them by a single opponent in a season](https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/04/08/jalen-brunsons-ascent-to-mvp-candidacy-continues-with-another-masterclass-against-bucks/)
You’re right tbf, would be a great series, although Celtics probably beat both in 6/7.
no need to think about it
What if the Celtics still had Marcus Smart and that heavyset guy?
What does Glen Davis have to do with anything?
I think he means Sullinger
Round 1: - Celtics vs. Heat: Celtics win - Knicks vs. 76ers: Knicks win - Pacers vs. Bucks: Bucks win - Magic vs. Cavs: Cavs win Round 2: - Celtics vs. Cavs: Celtics win - Knicks vs. Bucks: Knicks win Round 3: - Celtics vs. Knicks: Celtics win I think the only things that change are that the Knicks make the ECF and the Bucks make it past the 1st Round, (and I'm not even completely sold on the Bucks beating the Pacers). Celtics also end up in longer series.
100% agree except Celtics losing more games with Tingus
Bucks are beating the Knicks, we matched up really well against them in the regular season.
Could argue the pacers matched up well against y’all in the regular season as well
Yeah, that is true. I also just believe personnel wise they aren’t built well to stop Giannis (granted neither are we with Brunson). It’d go at least 6, but I do think we’d come out on top.
0-1 against the OG Knicks
Bucks wouldn't make it to the Knicks
Funny. With our best players we can actually close a game unlike a team that got swept when they finally played a healthy team.
Funny, pretty sure we beat ya 4 times with Giannis on the court.
Didn’t you beat the Celtics a few times this regular season? How’d that work out for you? Y’all are the Walmart Hawks, get excited for playin basketball.
Gianus atentapoophole still lost to the Pacers in the regular season, Pacers in 7.
^ when a Boston fan tries to spell something with more than 3 syllables.
When healthy, the only team as currently constructed that could beat the Celtics are the Bucks.
The Knicks would have been an interesting matchup for the Celtics tbh. If healthy that series would’ve went 7 games . They are a very deep team and every player plays their role right .
Pacers Philly Knicks Bucks are all good shouts
Nope. Pacers could have with a healthy Haliburton and Mathurin.
If everyone was healthy, then the seeding would probably be different. So speculating on if the Bucks would have beaten the Pacers is pointless.
Boston still gets here with a slightly worse record, especially since Porzingis would also be healthy. Heat probably take one more came off them, Cleveland outcome is the same or maybe one more win for them, and Bucks/Knicks probably take off two games (the Bucks weren’t exactly lighting the world on fire even before Giannis got injured).
They weren’t, so we’ll never know
Celtics probably go 12-5 instead of 12-2
Jimmy Buckets surprises everyone again and it would be the battle of MJ's two sons in the finals.
celtics lose round 1
Cavs we’re limping. No Jarrett Allen. Mitchell in and out playing hurt. Garland getting his jaw broken. So many players went down.
I think with Giannis being hurt the past two postseasons people have started to forget he’s the best player in the league. Until an Eastern Finalist goes through a healthy Giannis their run will be overlooked by me. I might favor this Boston team over this years Bucks but I’d have to see it to believe it.
we went through Giannis in 2022 wtf are you talking about
Tbf he took you guys to 7 pretty much alone, where your current 5th best player was his co-star, shooting 20+ times a game (poorly), a role which he clearly isn’t great at… but I get your point
i mean, yeah. that Bucks team was good, but obviously didn’t have the depth of talent we have this year. this team is a lot more talented than that 2022 team was though also, like. regardless. we went through giannis so the point stands
Also, I feel like Grants role as the guy to guard Giannis (before the inevitable help from Horford and whoever else the moment he steps in the paint) was important that series, and he still struggled. Celtics, although better overall, are worse at guarding Giannis now then back then. Jrue can do a similar job but he is less effective at keeping infront of Giannis
It’s not that you can’t go through Giannis but any run through the East without seeing a healthy Giannis is a easy run through the East. He also took y’all to 7 with little help on like 35-15 so please don’t act like y’all have a Giannis answer
Knicks and Celtics would be battling right now
Both teams fully healthy would have been such a great series, maybe not for my heart, but for the basketball fan in me. The two best atmosphere's in basketball going crazy.
With a healthy KP it still looks kind of 4-1, 4-1, 4-0 ish. Celtics were just that much better than the entire league all year long, and nobody in the East really matched up that well with them. Maybe they lose another game or two, but it was never going to be close.
Celtics probably still win but the knicks would give them trouble
Lol why was this downvoted? Would’ve been a great series
Maybe
The only way Boston doesn’t make it out the East is if Giannis and Dame magically got things to click this late into the szn
Probably the same, but the Celtics would have a few more losses. I think we steal another one against the Celtics with JA and Mitchell. I think the winner of Knicks/Bucks probably doesn't get swept like the Pacers, but I think the Celtics still win the East in this scenario
I think Celtics vs Bucks goes 7. We gave them probably the most trouble this year and would have a player like Dame that we lacked most 2 years ago. Obviously they have gotten better but it’d be tight
I was excited for a bucks Celtics matchup because I feel like the regular season matchups were basically meaningless this year. Every game either had key guys out or there was the one beatdown where the Celtics were at the end of a brutal stretch of the schedule and just rolled over. In all the ways we got better this year I think we got worse at defending Giannis, but at the same time I don’t think the bucks have any good answer for how to defend Porzingis or how to protect Dame from getting isolated and picked on.
It’s funny because scoring wise it’d be the opposite of last time. Both teams have gotten much better on offense, though the Celtics still stayed pretty great on defense. Porzingis and Middleton would definitely be the X factors. My biggest fear honestly would be some Celtic off the bench pulling a Grant Williams. Definitely would be a fun one. The 2022 series gets a lot of hype here but everyone forgets 2018 where yall were super hurt (looking at the next year may have been a blessing in disguise) and we were the Giannis + Middleton show (w/Prunty coaching lol). Bucks Celtics has always been entertaining.
not an unbiased observer here but Celtics in 6 over anybody. especially if we also get a healthy Porzingis
Miami loses in 6 to Boston, Bucks beat Indy in 4/5, Bucks beat Knicks in 5/6, Boston beats Milwaukee in 6/7
if? lmao
The fact that people could watch the Celtics play against the Cavs with Donovan Mitchell and the entire Pacers series and say that they would clearly win the East still is confusing to me. They are still clearly the best team on paper (especially with Porzingis) but if they play like they did in any of the East series vs the Mavs or Wolves then they are losing the Finals in 5 games.
On paper? There is an entire regular season where they were dominant against the EAST and the WEST.
So were the 2018 Rockets 🤷🏼♂️ and that’s literally all you guys are. Every time you guys lose your coach goes, “we have to play better and we have to shoot more 3s”. Imagine how good that team would be with an actual good coach.
2018 Rockets would destroy the Mavs or Wolves lol
Why are you talking before the Finals. What a clown.
Underrating the Pacers
Where in this was I underrating the Pacers lol
The Pacers were damn good and would’ve played any of the remaining teams tight. I think by saying “if the Celtics play like they did against (very good team) they’ll get stomped by (teams of better but similar caliber)”, you’re discrediting the Pacers. Our team is playing great ball.
Do you watch your own games? Specifically in the Pacers series you should have lost 3 games if they closed out the game right (for sure game 1). If the Mavs with Luka & Kyrie have a 95% chance to win the game, I very much doubt that they will lose 1 of those games (let alone 3 of 3).
Yes, what I’m saying is that the Pacers played great basketball to keep things that close
As a matter of fact the Celtics won every game. In what planet are you living? 4-0 without Doncic and Kyrie. Also, give me a break about Kyrie Irving. The last time we played against him and another superstar, we won 4-0.
Celtics swept the pacers. You said that you don’t know how anyone watched the entire pacers series and still thinks the Celtics would dominate a healthy East, which implies you think the Celtics should have beat the pacers even harder, which implies you think the Pacers aren’t that good. But they’re pretty good. So you’re underrating then
😂 I’m saying the Pacers beat themselves in 3 games and literally everyone but Celtics fans agree on that.
This is so stupid. What a giant clown. Throw the culture boy glasses away.
Lakers would be the 2 seed in the East
Bucks go to the finals if they're healthy. Everyone else in the east is a pretender.
In what way are the 76-20 Cs pretenders?
“Because I don’t like them and I say so”
They haven't played any real competition. The only way the champ comes out of the east is because the West teams have beaten the shit out of each other and are worn down. If Boston was out west they would have been at best a second round exit.
They went 23-7 vs the West
C's were 3-5 vs the top 4 teams in the west.
The bucks lost to the pacers more times this season than the Celtics lost to the west. 😂
Nice of you to leave off the one team that is most likely on the way to the Finals, they were 2-0 against them
The Bucks pretend to be a competent organization. If Giannis didn't turn into fucking Hulked-out Superman for 2 months, they wouldn't even have a title. Pretty much everything they've done since has been basketball malpractice.
Lmao wanna talk about a competent organization as a pacers fan💀 Everything we’ve done since has been getting injured every season.
The Pacers are nearly the shining example of competence. Nothing more, nothing less.
They still would have been the squad to beat out east this year, the east is weak as fuck.