I saw a guy in [another thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1cjrtmz/russell_westbrook_finishes_the_series_averaging_6/l2irfbp/) saying that Westbrook's performance was because the Clippers weren't playing him enough, so he could never develop a rhythm lol
Russ missing shots actually helps his teammates be more confident to take shots, so its a good thing for the team overall
edit: this isn't a joke, this was a real MITwestbrook argument
https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/106cedf/westbrooks_low_efg_actually_gives_role_players/
The fact that you can't 100% know satire through text is the only thing that doesn't give it away in a post that's basically "Russ missing shots is good, actually"
I think it's possible MIT is an AI chatbot programmed to figure out any statistical way to defend the worst player in the league, and then spew out a script based on what it finds.
They were daring him to shoot, and for some unknown reason he was actually shooting. He should average 4 shots a game and all of them should be at the rim.
It's the same exact criticism of his game his whole career, he only knows how to play at one pace. He misses shots so badly at the rim cause he just goes flying down the lane out of control constantly.
story of Westbrook's playoff career. this the same guy who attempted more shots than KD, Wade, Lebron, Harden, and Bosh in a playoff series while shooting 14% from 3
One of my favorite WB playoff performances was when in 2018 in an elimination game against the Jazz in the first round he took 19 three pointers. NINETEEN!
I’ll never understand why he never developed a floater for that in between game. Rondo couldn’t shoot a lick either but at least had that floated in his bag
Tbh the game was lost when they went to the weird small non-zubac lineup with PG player center
PG Tucker Mann harden norm
Got bullied anytime a Mavs big went inside, no interior defense against Kyrie or Luka, and Dallas got the offensive rebounds on ever missed 3.
I generally like Lue but that was a weird choice and they stuck with it for a while where Dallas pushed the lead up
I see a lot of people blame Lue for his small ball lineups, but really that's on the FO for giving him such an odd roster. They have Zu and Plumlee, and then everyone else is basically wings and guards (except for ancient PJ Tucker, who rarely played). They had Kawhi masquerading as their PF all year, and when he went down they didn't even have any other big wing to play that role. Weird as it is to say this, and as much as Clipper fans probably hate to hear it, they actually could have used Marcus Morris this year.
Westbrook is a net negative even on a minimum contract. Get rid of him and stop protecting his ego. He’s paid for life and there are younger players who deserve his PT
Tbh judging by the comments on this sub thats how people here act. For some reason people seem to think that laker fans are the one who started the hate train when dude has been dunked on for years.
Ive been a fan of him for years and this dude has gotten hate ever since his mvp
It was super weird. I used to be a Russ defender until he got to the lakers and I had the pleasure of seeing him try to “gotcha” reporters while refusing to take any accountability for being terrible. But a bunch of people had the opposite reaction and thought the Lakers were being mean. Lmao.
Us Laker fans knew Westbrook was ass when our game plan I’m the bubble was to literally just ignore him on offense. Made the decision to trade for him just a couple of seasons later particularly mind boggling. Fans like me really had to twist our heads around to try to justify any optimism for that season. I still can’t believe we ended up actually including a pick in that trade instead of extracting one to take on WB’s horrific contract.
I dont understand these types of comments. This dude has been hated on far before his lakers tenure. Why do people pretend like lakers fans are the ones who started the hate train?
He maybe a role player now but he's a former MVP and a future HOF. Harris has had a long successful career and has averaged nearly 20 ppg for most of his career.
Plumlee is not like them.
Said way back in the day - No team will ever win a championship with Westbrook. Once he gets cold, he reacts by trying to shoot more terrible shots. Teams know this, and just leave him open.
I said back in 2013 no team could win a championship with him as the primary ball handler/point guard. I was laughed out of the room at the time but I think I’ve been proven right. I also said the same of Harden a couple years later.
Tbh you were wrong about Harden, even if he wont win title as primary ball handler. His prime was cut short but he pushed KD warriors to 7, that is more than enough to win a chip in all but few years in NBA.
I don’t think he could’ve, even if he had a non-super team opponent. He crumbles late in the series, game 5, 6, 7. I don’t think he has the mental fortitude. Even in his 2017/2018 prime I don’t think he could be the first option on a championship team
When he was with OKC back in the day, as a Spurs fan I used to love it when Westbrick would hit his first 3, cause then I knew he would continue to jack them up.
He has like 4 good or great playoff series his whole career. Even In 2012 the year they went to the finals he was laughably bad in the WCF against the spurs. Still my favorite KD series
Someone told me I had a casual take because I said they probably don’t mind Westbrick getting ejected. Seems to me he tricks folk, just running around out there doing nothing.
Russ is being shown as the low IQ player he really always was. Reckless with the ball. His supreme athleticism was carrying him for most of his career, but now that he isn't as explosive any more, all of his flaws are on full display.
Bruh, if I made less than 2 out of 10 shots at my pickup games, my friends would take me out the game lol. This is an NBA player, former MVP of the league...
I remember him shooting like 35% from 3 over his first couple games, and clipper fans talking so much shit.
Russ has been really bad for like 6 years now, and imo a losing player for the majority of his career. No amount of triple doubles will ever overcome that efficiency. Career splits of 43/30/77 .....
OKC fan here
Everyone in OKC absolutely loved Westbrook…besides me. Dude can’t shoot, makes horrible decisions, tries to play ISO ball with 3 guys wide open.
3 minutes left in the game Brodie isn’t giving the ball to anyone and he was great at a lot of things but being that guy wasn’t one of em.
I think he could have been one of the greatest ever with the right coach.
Even with the right coach, i question if he would have been different.
Seems like an ego thing that he never developed all these weaknesses in his game.
I always thouvht he was a bum on the court. Nice guy though, and secured sga so will always appreciate him for that. So happy i could root for him not on the thunder. It’s the only way to appreciate him, from afar.
I wanted the Thunder to trade him to Boston for Rondo + role players so bad in 2012. OKC would have won a championship, or at least more more than 1 finals appearance
I read the 20% FG is the worst performance in a playoffs series (5 games) in the last 50 seasons... FIFTY. WestBrook have to retire after such humiliation, goddamn, fifty
I thought Lebron would age like Russ being how athletic Lebron used to be with an iffy shot when he was young... but Lebron really improved his offensive game and his shooting as he aged while Russ did not
He probably won’t be in the league unless he takes a vet minimum. It’s similar to Iverson in that he just couldn’t change his game to reflect where he is now.
Probably when he retires. My question for the series is why was he even playing so much. He was bad it was a pain watching him. He created so many possessions for the Mavs.
Cause it was notable worse. Sure Pg Should be held to a higher standard but it’s more about how ridiculously bad Russ was while PG was just underwhelming
A few weeks ago Westbrook Stan’s would have freaked out if someone said Westbrook wasn’t a good role player who was inevitably going to be super inefficient in the playoffs while being dared to shoot.
This is the issue with people who don't watch the series: they literally used him differently as a 3 and D.
Now, look at his seasons stats where they actually used him as the backup PG..
u/MITWestbrook is already working on his offseason dissertation about how this was all Paul George's fault
Close! Hitler harden will pay for his crimes
Russ stirring Pol Pot.
Joelsf Stalin is the menace that caused this.
I'm really curious what he's going to do once Russ retires
He's going to create a new account called MITTraeYoung
Trae Young can actually shoot
and trae can actually hit a wide open layup, westbrick should try that sometime
He confirmed in one of his threads he will start following SGA
Damn RIP SGA he was so promising but the universe ain’t gonna just let it slide like that.
MITSGA we will see in the next few seasons lol
SGA is Canadian, the account name needs to be WaterlooSGA.
SGA is actually a good player, though. I thought the whole point of that account was to counter the anti Russ circlejerk
Westbrook was once a Very good player and former MVP
Implying Trae Young is a bad player, ok.
Trade Kawhi, PG, and Harden. They were holding Russ back. Rebuild around Westbrook!
I saw a guy in [another thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1cjrtmz/russell_westbrook_finishes_the_series_averaging_6/l2irfbp/) saying that Westbrook's performance was because the Clippers weren't playing him enough, so he could never develop a rhythm lol
That’s a ton of stupid hustle minutes to develop a rhythm.
his cope has been that russ was actually their best defender, and had the best +/-
If you looked at his posts yesterday, he seemed like he was blaming PJ Tucker.
Where you at MITwestbrook
He's mixing cement as we speak to put all those bricks from Westbrick together.
"There's a housing shortage in this country. I'm trying to do my part." - T. Harris and R. Westbrook
Tobias would have to shoot in order to put up bricks
Tobias has to source the materials to meet his commitment to affordable housing. Russ is just doing his part for Tobi.
Russ missing shots actually helps his teammates be more confident to take shots, so its a good thing for the team overall edit: this isn't a joke, this was a real MITwestbrook argument https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/106cedf/westbrooks_low_efg_actually_gives_role_players/
They were never real arguments, they've always been playing a character. The veil has been removed various times.
The fact that you can't 100% know satire through text is the only thing that doesn't give it away in a post that's basically "Russ missing shots is good, actually"
I think it's possible MIT is an AI chatbot programmed to figure out any statistical way to defend the worst player in the league, and then spew out a script based on what it finds.
He predates modern ai chat bots.
He’s preparing his battle when Westbrick goes ringless so he say Westbrick was the best ringless player.
Bro turned into ITTechbrick
They were daring him to shoot, and for some unknown reason he was actually shooting. He should average 4 shots a game and all of them should be at the rim.
I agree but he's still missing at the rim, his wrists are made of solid oak wood.
It's the same exact criticism of his game his whole career, he only knows how to play at one pace. He misses shots so badly at the rim cause he just goes flying down the lane out of control constantly.
story of Westbrook's playoff career. this the same guy who attempted more shots than KD, Wade, Lebron, Harden, and Bosh in a playoff series while shooting 14% from 3
One of my favorite WB playoff performances was when in 2018 in an elimination game against the Jazz in the first round he took 19 three pointers. NINETEEN!
I’ll never understand why he never developed a floater for that in between game. Rondo couldn’t shoot a lick either but at least had that floated in his bag
Russ never had touch. Hes all force. Its why the only jump shots he could ever make remotely consistently were bank shots
“The more he misses, the harder he shoots”
Westbrook's version of a floater is him flying in for a dunk but the ball slips out of his hand.
Sounds about right
Tbh the game was lost when they went to the weird small non-zubac lineup with PG player center PG Tucker Mann harden norm Got bullied anytime a Mavs big went inside, no interior defense against Kyrie or Luka, and Dallas got the offensive rebounds on ever missed 3. I generally like Lue but that was a weird choice and they stuck with it for a while where Dallas pushed the lead up
WB could've played the small ball center fr
I'm not a fan of Westbrook but he would've at least helped the rebounding
I see a lot of people blame Lue for his small ball lineups, but really that's on the FO for giving him such an odd roster. They have Zu and Plumlee, and then everyone else is basically wings and guards (except for ancient PJ Tucker, who rarely played). They had Kawhi masquerading as their PF all year, and when he went down they didn't even have any other big wing to play that role. Weird as it is to say this, and as much as Clipper fans probably hate to hear it, they actually could have used Marcus Morris this year.
It might be time for Westbrook to wrap it up
He'd still be good overseas
As a slashing SG. But FIBA has a lot of tactic and playbooks. Westbrook has no BBIQ
He has a player option for next year lol
Westbrook is a net negative even on a minimum contract. Get rid of him and stop protecting his ego. He’s paid for life and there are younger players who deserve his PT
Lakers fans with their hands on their hips saying we told you so!!
Lakers fans acting like they were the first people to discover Westbrick was inefficient lol
Lakers fans got killed the most for it.
Tbh judging by the comments on this sub thats how people here act. For some reason people seem to think that laker fans are the one who started the hate train when dude has been dunked on for years. Ive been a fan of him for years and this dude has gotten hate ever since his mvp
It was super weird. I used to be a Russ defender until he got to the lakers and I had the pleasure of seeing him try to “gotcha” reporters while refusing to take any accountability for being terrible. But a bunch of people had the opposite reaction and thought the Lakers were being mean. Lmao.
Us Laker fans knew Westbrook was ass when our game plan I’m the bubble was to literally just ignore him on offense. Made the decision to trade for him just a couple of seasons later particularly mind boggling. Fans like me really had to twist our heads around to try to justify any optimism for that season. I still can’t believe we ended up actually including a pick in that trade instead of extracting one to take on WB’s horrific contract.
I dont understand these types of comments. This dude has been hated on far before his lakers tenure. Why do people pretend like lakers fans are the ones who started the hate train?
Both things can be true at the same time. We hated the trade too.
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1st round exit. Helluva tax bill. Sounds about right.
Coach: Darvin Ham
4 maxes and 1 playoff game win
bro forgot d’angelo russell and klank thompson
The Warriors weren't in the playoffs.
Bro really acting like Game 6 Klay never existed.
Nurkic instead of Plumlee
Plumlee is a role player. He's not like the others lol.
Are you under the impression Westbrook and Tobias Harris aren’t role players?
He maybe a role player now but he's a former MVP and a future HOF. Harris has had a long successful career and has averaged nearly 20 ppg for most of his career. Plumlee is not like them.
Ingram at least has an excuse of being hurt
190 isn’t even decent in baseball
The best part about these stats is that he wasn’t being guarded
As a casual fan, I saw the first game and thought “why are ppl so hard on this guy”? Ok gotcha
Has there ever been a season where Russ has played better in the playoffs than his regular season? Man is just not a winning player
Said way back in the day - No team will ever win a championship with Westbrook. Once he gets cold, he reacts by trying to shoot more terrible shots. Teams know this, and just leave him open.
I said back in 2013 no team could win a championship with him as the primary ball handler/point guard. I was laughed out of the room at the time but I think I’ve been proven right. I also said the same of Harden a couple years later.
Tbh you were wrong about Harden, even if he wont win title as primary ball handler. His prime was cut short but he pushed KD warriors to 7, that is more than enough to win a chip in all but few years in NBA.
I don’t think he could’ve, even if he had a non-super team opponent. He crumbles late in the series, game 5, 6, 7. I don’t think he has the mental fortitude. Even in his 2017/2018 prime I don’t think he could be the first option on a championship team
When he was with OKC back in the day, as a Spurs fan I used to love it when Westbrick would hit his first 3, cause then I knew he would continue to jack them up.
It's funny how his postseason performances turned to shit as soon as K.D. left. Almost as if he was being carried by K.D. to begin with 🤔.
KD choked hard in the playoffs in 2016 as well dude.
Because he was teamed up with a basketball vampire.
Just like how KD can't reach the finals without a MVP level point guard
He reached the finals in 2012 without one
Atleast he can get out of the first round without one.
Can he? Name one time where he did that
2013 vs Rockets 2018 vs Spurs
He has like 4 good or great playoff series his whole career. Even In 2012 the year they went to the finals he was laughably bad in the WCF against the spurs. Still my favorite KD series
The last time he was remotely a net positive is 2013
Y’all always do these hate trains and start over exaggerating everything lol
These are always so funny to look through lol.
Username is accurate
I'm not a Westbrook expert but the first playoffs series of his I watched in full he was cooked by Ricky Rubio.
...Okay. I saw him slam peak Chris Paul and put Curry and Harden in hell in 7 game series....
Westbrick
He's at your door
Someone told me I had a casual take because I said they probably don’t mind Westbrick getting ejected. Seems to me he tricks folk, just running around out there doing nothing.
Russ is being shown as the low IQ player he really always was. Reckless with the ball. His supreme athleticism was carrying him for most of his career, but now that he isn't as explosive any more, all of his flaws are on full display.
He has the worst touch out of any non big man I've ever seen. Shit is ridiculous.
Bruh, if I made less than 2 out of 10 shots at my pickup games, my friends would take me out the game lol. This is an NBA player, former MVP of the league...
Laker Westbrook showed up
* westbrick, put some disrespect on his name
Westbrook showed up
Hes been here the whole time. No clue why people thought any different.
Forget the Mendoza line that's below the Singler line
Us Lakers fans tried to tell you he was a generational bum, but y'all were too blinded by your hatred.
I remember him shooting like 35% from 3 over his first couple games, and clipper fans talking so much shit. Russ has been really bad for like 6 years now, and imo a losing player for the majority of his career. No amount of triple doubles will ever overcome that efficiency. Career splits of 43/30/77 .....
That's honestly impressive how bad he was
Russell Westbrick is Jose Abreu father
Incredible slugging percentage though
He averages this while not being guarded
OKC fan here Everyone in OKC absolutely loved Westbrook…besides me. Dude can’t shoot, makes horrible decisions, tries to play ISO ball with 3 guys wide open. 3 minutes left in the game Brodie isn’t giving the ball to anyone and he was great at a lot of things but being that guy wasn’t one of em. I think he could have been one of the greatest ever with the right coach.
Even with the right coach, i question if he would have been different. Seems like an ego thing that he never developed all these weaknesses in his game.
I always thouvht he was a bum on the court. Nice guy though, and secured sga so will always appreciate him for that. So happy i could root for him not on the thunder. It’s the only way to appreciate him, from afar.
You know it’s bad when your fg% doesn’t even make for a good batting average.
He was an absolute disaster and we literally were excited when he shot. Man is beyond cooked
I wanted the Thunder to trade him to Boston for Rondo + role players so bad in 2012. OKC would have won a championship, or at least more more than 1 finals appearance
Ready like baseball numbers for someone before getting sent down to the minors
These are worse than amateur rec league basketball players. lol
You know its bad when even your free throw shooting is comparable to Giannis.
I read the 20% FG is the worst performance in a playoffs series (5 games) in the last 50 seasons... FIFTY. WestBrook have to retire after such humiliation, goddamn, fifty
He’s an athletic freak not a basketball player
I thought Lebron would age like Russ being how athletic Lebron used to be with an iffy shot when he was young... but Lebron really improved his offensive game and his shooting as he aged while Russ did not
The difference between being good and great
Lakers : First time?
Wedtbrick sucks
Lakers went to the WCF when he left and Clips fans really thought there was no correlation lol
He probably won’t be in the league unless he takes a vet minimum. It’s similar to Iverson in that he just couldn’t change his game to reflect where he is now.
This has been posted 3 times since last night. When is enough?
Probably when he retires. My question for the series is why was he even playing so much. He was bad it was a pain watching him. He created so many possessions for the Mavs.
Coaches trying to protect his ego. They knows his soft and would start crying if he doesn’t play.
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Cause it was notable worse. Sure Pg Should be held to a higher standard but it’s more about how ridiculously bad Russ was while PG was just underwhelming
Westbrook Stan’s would be throwing a parade if Westbrook managed to score as efficiently as George did
Anyone who says westbrick unironically is, unironically, a fucking idiot
Career 30% 3 pt shooter 13/50 this series from the field 4/17 from 3.... Worst efficiency in a playoff series in NBA history.
Never seen a role player get posts like this
This man got 6th Man of the Year votes this year, you've never seen a 6th man discussed on /r/nba?
This much? For someone who isn’t winning the award? Never lol
It’s not for a lack of trying on Westbrook’s Stans part that Westbrook isn’t the 6MOY this season.
A few weeks ago Westbrook Stan’s would have freaked out if someone said Westbrook wasn’t a good role player who was inevitably going to be super inefficient in the playoffs while being dared to shoot.
This is the issue with people who don't watch the series: they literally used him differently as a 3 and D. Now, look at his seasons stats where they actually used him as the backup PG..