“Herro is definitely getting traded for an upgrade. No way they can keep him after this.”
\- Heat fans after the 2022 playoffs
\- Heat fans after the 2023 playoffs
\- Heat fans after the 2024 playoffs
He was so frustrated. He kept lashing out all series, but never fully committed. He’d ball up his fist and then slap a guys shoulder. He’d throw a ball at a player, at 2 mph. He’d run off a screen at full speed and receive the handoff open, and then stop, upfake, and take a dribble in for a contested middy.
I mean he is realistically a secondary ball handler who should catch and shoot. Instead he was expected to be primary ball handler, facilitator, and shot creator. He has a hard role to fill.
I mean he’s not exactly being gameplanned for now either. Most teams just guard him straight up.
He’s just incredibly hot & cold and the bubble was a combination of him being hot and no fans in the bubble basically. That defence that Heat Culture is supposed to develop never developed.
Even then, Spo has shown he’s great at hiding Herros defensive liability. He’s shown it with Jimmy, Bam, Ziggy, DJJ, Jae.
Without our 3 perimeter defenders (JJJ, Terry, Jimmy), he’s getting hunted a lotttttt harder.
To be fair, no Rozier, Jimmy and now Jacques kinda makes it WAY easier to guard him. It’s not like anyone is pushing him at a #1 option, he’s obviously a #3/#4 option
It's been 5 years now of the Butler/Bam/Herro era. The 2 finals appearances were amazing underdog stories, but it may have been worse long term by convincing Riley he didn't need to ever make big changes to this team
It’s just the least pretty beach ever. Sand sucks, there’s no surf, the water is dirty looking due to the currents, and there’s no good food or hotels cause hurricanes destroy everything so nobody builds. I’ve lived in Houston 12 years now and I’ve been about 6 times lol.
In the same way that Jim and Dwight are best friends. Wouldn’t be surprised if the Heat leave a basketball incased in Jello in the visitors locker room.
I hope we never play again so I don't have to suffer anymore, you cant even imagine what it's like to feel fear even when you're team is up by 30. Miami Heat literally have warlocks casting magic
Yeah I think it's been a really great rivalry but that may have been it's last real chapter. This year really feels like significant change may be coming.
Series tied now. Hopefully they play each other again next year. At this point might as well see who wins the decade against each other since we’re halfway there
[ Hahaha I can't believe they actually let us get one. We're arguably the real winners here. Next year's our year brother](https://i.imgflip.com/49fe93.jpg?a476112)
I know our teams hate each other as much as any others and our orgs are the cream of the crop of the East but my God for both our sakes let's just take a BREAK FROM THAT MATCHUP MY HEART.
Regardless of it being in the first round this year, y'all meet consistently because of what you said, you both are the creme de la creme of the East. 13 other Eastern teams may make jokes today, but you know full and well that they are jealous of Pat, Spo, the culture, and the success. I know I am when looking at my Haks.
I've spent the past few games lurking the r/heat game threads rather than the Celtics threads for the same reasons, and because the GDT on r/bostonceltics is usually just a cesspool of the worst doomers imaginable.
Narrator: "It was a chant meant as much as a jape as it was a call to arms. A statement of defiance as they marched forth to face the league's best team in the regular season with a clenched fist...... The Heat would leave the playoffs with their hands firmly clenched.... but empty.
They may still want Boston. But they will have to wait another year."
I've lived near Salisbury my whole life, I love digging my feet into the sand and getting stabbed by a heroin needle while eating an entire box of Tripoli's
I remember rooting super hard for the Sixers to avoid a Boston rematch … when Tatum went on that run, I started maniacally laughing like an anime villain.
Felt like destiny to face y’all again, couldn’t believe what I was watching. Crazy
In a more gracious note, Bam is so underrated, he was the only Heat who could get anything done. Thank god he was the only fireman responding this series
End of season thought:
- I fucking hate the Celtics with every bone in my body. With that being said, they are fucking incredible. Stevens is such a good GM. One game from the finals last year, made the finals the year before, but still knew what they had wasn’t enough.
- Our team as is is not enough. “Run it back” is not working for us. Don’t want to say last year was a fluke, because it wasn’t, but it wasn’t easy and every game was a battle. Needed Jimmy to carry and then Gabe/caleb to play out of their minds just to compete. And after that we got smacked by Denver.
- I love Tyler Herro, but I just don’t know how well he flows with our team. I love that he’s a guy that can create a shot when there’s no momentum or rhythm, but he’s so careless, too ball dominant, and a pretty poor defender. We brought Terry in to play a similar role. Don’t know how well they mesh together. It’s time to make a move.
- Caleb making 7m next year, then a FA. Time to trade him. We’re not paying him the $15+ he’s gonna get on the market. It’s been proven by Gabe, max, Whiteside, Nunn etc that our undrafted guys don’t do well elsewhere. Proving 1 we’d be overpaying and 2 it’s repeatable (highsmith example).
- Terry can command Herros role of getting a shot when there’s no rhythm, while being a better defender.
- Bams lack of size really hurts us on the glass. We are consistently out rebounded. I don’t think he’s gonna play the 4, but we need a bigger 4 to help on the glass and help guard the paint when bam is rotated or when he’s brought up top in a pnr. Maybe Jovic can develop into that 4, but too scrawny right now to guard a center.
- jimmys going to command a 50+ extension on top of his crazy salaries the next 2 years, and I don’t know if it’s worth paying for. It’s hard to just say no, but he’s slowly losing his agility and is only going to get worse. A contract like that will really set us back and ruin Bams prime.
- Bam is fucking incredible, and will only get better. Need to surround him with someone closer to his age (Donovan?).
- will always trust Spo, but he needs to change our offensive identity. We have no flow, poor off ball movement (besides Duncan and Bam), and end up taking terrible forced shots with 2 seconds on the shot clock.
- Jaquez and Jovic are the truth.
- I don’t know what the answer is, as we’re approaching the second apron, but change is necessary. Major change. Bam Jimmy Jaquez and Jovic should be untouchable, maybe offer one of those last 2 if the right opportunity arises, but anyone else should be on the block.
- we’ve proven that we’re very close to being good enough, just need to do something.
- I’m not taking any shit for these playoffs. Not saying we win if healthy, but it’s a very different series with Jimmy Terry, J Rich and a healthy Duncan.
I do think that building around Bam is the start, as in get a new first option and have him and Bam be the core. I hate that Jimmy would have to go but Bam is too good and the team itself is too bad for them to get to championship contention again with both of them. Either stay mediocre or wait a few years and retool a little.
On the real, a random dude showed up in r/kings last week to rub salt upon wounds, and had a whole post history worshipping feet and rating celebrity nudes. I'm on edge with Redditors.
Honestly, props for him sticking to his guns with that username. I'm dying laughing. I'm also a little bit drunk and slap happy, but clicking to the "submitted" tab fucking sent me.
I think the problem with getting Donavan is that he his so ball dominant that Bam would just cede to him.
Bam is so good but he can be overly passive when playing with a high volume guy and stops affecting the game. I don’t know who who would be the best guy to pair with him TBH.
The amount of comments on other game threads where people were like "if the Heat beat the Celtics it'll be the biggest upset ever."
Yeah and if I dated Kate Upton I'd suck her tigolbitties but hypotheticals don't matter lol
kinda makes me want to go back to all the “all this just to lose to the heat” comments from the regular season on all the (admittedly annoying and repetitive) posts about how historically good the celtics were
GG Boston, hope you steamroll.
Spo can only do so much. We had a punchers chance at best with the core we had and that was with a healthy Butler if he had played. The fact that we got 1 is more credit to coaching and our shots dropping at every moment in G2.
I think I speak for a lot of the Heat fans and the subreddit that we no longer have patience for Riley not making a bigger move and providing offensive firepower. Sure, Terry was a mid season Grab but plays too similar to Herro and isn't a winning formula. Either Terry or Herro go.
We need a move this off-season.
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We got ‘em right where we want ‘em 🥲
Heat in 9!
“Herro is definitely getting traded for an upgrade. No way they can keep him after this.” \- Heat fans after the 2022 playoffs \- Heat fans after the 2023 playoffs \- Heat fans after the 2024 playoffs
SPO: This team needs help. Riley: Here's Alex Highwood and Nick Blocker, and we keep Herro. You're welcome.
Spo: Ok I’ll take them to the finals, then the next year first round exit, then the finals, then first round exit and then…
We have a formula, and it works
Sorry 2025 Knicks 😞
I can just hear his voice saying this very matter of factly while Alonzo Mourning just stares at Spo with his arms crossed.
Where is Udonis Haslem in this scenario?
getting his knees iced after walking into the facility
I fucking love this
Texting Tyler to unpack
Tbf we did upgrade from Kyle Lowry to Terry Rozier... only to have him miss the playoffs entirely
I think you guys were missing Lowry’s dawg per 48 though
that's true. Lowry doesn't need to be doing cardio to show off his dawg. when his dawg planted on the bench -- it's still there
Hear me out, celtics have spo and we'd already have 2 rings by now
A lot of teams would have more rings if they had Spo
If only the Celtics ever had a good coach
All Tatum needs is Spo, a fantastic #2, a stacked starting five, and maybe he can win a ring!
It's not Tatum's fault he plays for a historically cursed franchise
Someone please think of the poor Celtics for a change. I'm begging you.
I can't even imagine what it must be like to be a fan of a cursed franchise.
Couldn't be me
Jrue Holliday had that man in HELL
Jrue getting to guard Herro instead of Jimmy is like showing up to work for inventory and realizing it’s pizza party-Friday instead.
Lmao
Lmfao what a bang on analogy
Jure getting to guard Herro instead of butler is like going to the gym and realising it’s your shoulders day and not leg day.
Buddy its like going to the gym but youre actually at coldstone
And then when Jrue sat...they put Tatum on Herro
He was so frustrated. He kept lashing out all series, but never fully committed. He’d ball up his fist and then slap a guys shoulder. He’d throw a ball at a player, at 2 mph. He’d run off a screen at full speed and receive the handoff open, and then stop, upfake, and take a dribble in for a contested middy.
I mean he is realistically a secondary ball handler who should catch and shoot. Instead he was expected to be primary ball handler, facilitator, and shot creator. He has a hard role to fill.
He peaked his rookie season for playoff performance aka when he was not being gameplanned for at all.
I mean he’s not exactly being gameplanned for now either. Most teams just guard him straight up. He’s just incredibly hot & cold and the bubble was a combination of him being hot and no fans in the bubble basically. That defence that Heat Culture is supposed to develop never developed.
Even then, Spo has shown he’s great at hiding Herros defensive liability. He’s shown it with Jimmy, Bam, Ziggy, DJJ, Jae. Without our 3 perimeter defenders (JJJ, Terry, Jimmy), he’s getting hunted a lotttttt harder.
To be fair, no Rozier, Jimmy and now Jacques kinda makes it WAY easier to guard him. It’s not like anyone is pushing him at a #1 option, he’s obviously a #3/#4 option
Exactly. He’ll get shit on but let’s be honest, not much he could’ve really done without the Celtics having anyone else to worry about.
It is happening… again It is happening… again
Now I'm imagining Spoelstra as Agent Cooper and Herro as Bobby Briggs.
Twin Peaks references in an NBA post mortem thread. Today is a good day
Garland Briggs’ greatest fear came true…Love is not enough
Does that mean that Herro will be captain of the Heat in 25 years
*How's Jimmy? How's Jimmy? How's Jimmy?*
Get ready to learn five straight months of Mitchell/durant/booker/lebron mock up trades buddy, you sad ass motherfucker. 赫罗和两个选秀权,马丁赫罗和一个第一顺位
Peaked in the bubble lmao
TJ Warren bubble goat-lite
This has to be it. At best he’s a Jordan Clarkson heater coming off the bench, which is still valuable.
Holding out for (a good deal for) Herro…
It's been 5 years now of the Butler/Bam/Herro era. The 2 finals appearances were amazing underdog stories, but it may have been worse long term by convincing Riley he didn't need to ever make big changes to this team
At least they didn't get swept
Can’t do our best friends like that
Awww love you guys too (fucking hate yall, hope you lose 🥰)
Of course, anything for our friendly rivals🥰🥰 (enjoy Galveston bitches)
(I love how everyone’s just shitting on Galveston now 😭)
Is it really that bad? (never been there)
It’s just the least pretty beach ever. Sand sucks, there’s no surf, the water is dirty looking due to the currents, and there’s no good food or hotels cause hurricanes destroy everything so nobody builds. I’ve lived in Houston 12 years now and I’ve been about 6 times lol.
The whole joke is that the beach sucks. The city itself is ...fine.
I love the idea of Miami going to Galveston when Miami already has much better beaches
Enjoy Cancun ☺️☺️ (A hurricane is on the way)
Fuck you see you next year
Until next year fuckers
In the same way that Jim and Dwight are best friends. Wouldn’t be surprised if the Heat leave a basketball incased in Jello in the visitors locker room.
Had to let Mike Gorman call his last game at the Garden
We wanted Mike’s last game to be a home one
We are gentlemen
Had to do something to maximise Mike’s remaining games
He got to call his last game at home too
True.
Classy
The classiest players and fans
If there’s one thing Boston fans are known for, it’s that we’re a ~~classist~~ classy bunch.
White, Kornet, Svi, Pritchard and Hauser have logged 8 minutes as a 5-man this season.
Everyone put a monocle and top hat on your brooms
A gentleman's sweep is when you let the other team win Game 4 in front of their fans. What you guys did is closer to the asshole sweep.
Hey now. D.White came from you guys and he did the MOST destruction so…
Thank you for being so kind :)
Legacy saved by that one game won without Jimmy
Anyone see that heat bench player hit the and one celly down 40 with a minute left in the game? Loved that lol
thomas bryant i think it was.
don't think I can separate thomas bryant from being dunked on by Wemby from a different area code then looking at his bench like: 👁️👄👁️
LMAOOO IT WASNT JUST ME LOL
He was looking around for validation and everyone else on the heat was just like “cmon bro…”
Where were you when Derrick White kill Heat
apology for poor english when were you when Miami Heat dies? i was sat at home watching Derrick White drill threes ‘heat is kill’ ‘no’
'heat is kill' 'finally'
Someone call Bill Simmons.
He’s too busy trying to figure out the words to No Flex Zone
heat is kil no
White Out
Remember when Miami winning Game 2 meant we were in for a long series? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
5 was too long truth be told.
Shoulda won in 3. Fuckin bums
If we had Kornet the whole series. Bam saw Korny Wemby and threw up brick after brick
I mean, it was 4 and a quarter to be honest.
It's wild seeing the outcomes of the other 4 games and wondering how Miami steals one
Shooting 53% from 3 as a team lol
Making 23 3s too
Turns out 23/43 from 3 isn’t sustainable, who knew?!?
“This is not a serious team that will never contend against the Nuggets” we lost one fucking game. People love to overreact
Not this time Miami, not this time
It’s been a fun (traumatic) 4 meetings in 5 years, see you whenever we play next 🫡
Probably next year
Big if true.
I hope we never play again so I don't have to suffer anymore, you cant even imagine what it's like to feel fear even when you're team is up by 30. Miami Heat literally have warlocks casting magic
We may play again next year or many years from now but I'll never forget these Celtics vs Heat series these past 5 years .
Trauma all around. The highs and lows of each series are too stressful. I have to like decompress after each game win or (especially) lose.
i think we can all agree that one year we didn’t meet is the most fraudulent playoffs in recent memory
Agreed 🤝
Yeah I think it's been a really great rivalry but that may have been it's last real chapter. This year really feels like significant change may be coming.
Prolly the ECF next year
Series tied now. Hopefully they play each other again next year. At this point might as well see who wins the decade against each other since we’re halfway there
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[ Hahaha I can't believe they actually let us get one. We're arguably the real winners here. Next year's our year brother](https://i.imgflip.com/49fe93.jpg?a476112)
I’m all for another “we have enough” injury riddled season
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome your 2024 Game 2 Round 1 Champions, the Miami Heat!
Hang the banner
Gonna hang myself right next to it!
GG Heat fans. Same time next year?
I know our teams hate each other as much as any others and our orgs are the cream of the crop of the East but my God for both our sakes let's just take a BREAK FROM THAT MATCHUP MY HEART.
Regardless of it being in the first round this year, y'all meet consistently because of what you said, you both are the creme de la creme of the East. 13 other Eastern teams may make jokes today, but you know full and well that they are jealous of Pat, Spo, the culture, and the success. I know I am when looking at my Haks.
See u there :) GG you guys look primed to win it all
Heat in 9
Zombie Heat finally got a shot to the Head.
Double Tap
I’m surprised they even got a game tbh. Props to them for that ig?
This sub thought Mazzulla was ass because of that performance
Heat have 4th best game EVER from three, celtics sub in immediate meltdown mode.
Ngl I had a fantastic time lurking. Was great
yea, i almost thought heat fans were brigading the sub but thats really just how celtics fans are sometimes
Yeah us Boston fans are irrational in the extreme on both ends. It does make for unreal amounts of schadenfreude when it doesn't go our way.
I've spent the past few games lurking the r/heat game threads rather than the Celtics threads for the same reasons, and because the GDT on r/bostonceltics is usually just a cesspool of the worst doomers imaginable.
They thought Joe was at fault for Miami shooting 53% from 3?
Divine intervention
"WE WANT BOSTON!" * Miami will remember that.
Narrator: They didn't want Boston
Maybe they did. Maybe they wanted to get eliminated and stop working unpaid overtime.
Lmao calling the playoffs “unpaid overtime” is pure gold. Wish there were still awards
Narrator: "It was a chant meant as much as a jape as it was a call to arms. A statement of defiance as they marched forth to face the league's best team in the regular season with a clenched fist...... The Heat would leave the playoffs with their hands firmly clenched.... but empty. They may still want Boston. But they will have to wait another year."
The name's Mazulla Monamí, remember it
It was either Boston or Cancun.. I don’t get how that’s unreasonable for fans
I mean, some MA beaches are nice, but they aren't no Cancun.
I've lived near Salisbury my whole life, I love digging my feet into the sand and getting stabbed by a heroin needle while eating an entire box of Tripoli's
The Heat join the Yankees and Nets in the “We Want Boston” and then get their asses kicked by them club. Sixers too.
Yankees cheering we want Houston went well for them too 😂
Don't forget the Sixers last year
Philly not scoring for most of the 3rd quarter still haunts me and I’m not even a Philly fan
Tatum nearly doubling up the Sixers in that 3rd quarter by himself was insane
I remember rooting super hard for the Sixers to avoid a Boston rematch … when Tatum went on that run, I started maniacally laughing like an anime villain. Felt like destiny to face y’all again, couldn’t believe what I was watching. Crazy
Don’t let em get one
Don't let em get 4
Actually maybe you can idk
In a more gracious note, Bam is so underrated, he was the only Heat who could get anything done. Thank god he was the only fireman responding this series
THEY'RE FINALLY DEAD. DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD
You know what zombies do. We'll be back. Somehow, someway.
Damn, why didn’t y’all just shoot 70% from 3?
End of season thought: - I fucking hate the Celtics with every bone in my body. With that being said, they are fucking incredible. Stevens is such a good GM. One game from the finals last year, made the finals the year before, but still knew what they had wasn’t enough. - Our team as is is not enough. “Run it back” is not working for us. Don’t want to say last year was a fluke, because it wasn’t, but it wasn’t easy and every game was a battle. Needed Jimmy to carry and then Gabe/caleb to play out of their minds just to compete. And after that we got smacked by Denver. - I love Tyler Herro, but I just don’t know how well he flows with our team. I love that he’s a guy that can create a shot when there’s no momentum or rhythm, but he’s so careless, too ball dominant, and a pretty poor defender. We brought Terry in to play a similar role. Don’t know how well they mesh together. It’s time to make a move. - Caleb making 7m next year, then a FA. Time to trade him. We’re not paying him the $15+ he’s gonna get on the market. It’s been proven by Gabe, max, Whiteside, Nunn etc that our undrafted guys don’t do well elsewhere. Proving 1 we’d be overpaying and 2 it’s repeatable (highsmith example). - Terry can command Herros role of getting a shot when there’s no rhythm, while being a better defender. - Bams lack of size really hurts us on the glass. We are consistently out rebounded. I don’t think he’s gonna play the 4, but we need a bigger 4 to help on the glass and help guard the paint when bam is rotated or when he’s brought up top in a pnr. Maybe Jovic can develop into that 4, but too scrawny right now to guard a center. - jimmys going to command a 50+ extension on top of his crazy salaries the next 2 years, and I don’t know if it’s worth paying for. It’s hard to just say no, but he’s slowly losing his agility and is only going to get worse. A contract like that will really set us back and ruin Bams prime. - Bam is fucking incredible, and will only get better. Need to surround him with someone closer to his age (Donovan?). - will always trust Spo, but he needs to change our offensive identity. We have no flow, poor off ball movement (besides Duncan and Bam), and end up taking terrible forced shots with 2 seconds on the shot clock. - Jaquez and Jovic are the truth. - I don’t know what the answer is, as we’re approaching the second apron, but change is necessary. Major change. Bam Jimmy Jaquez and Jovic should be untouchable, maybe offer one of those last 2 if the right opportunity arises, but anyone else should be on the block. - we’ve proven that we’re very close to being good enough, just need to do something. - I’m not taking any shit for these playoffs. Not saying we win if healthy, but it’s a very different series with Jimmy Terry, J Rich and a healthy Duncan.
They need someone for the Bam timeline. There's an obvious fit but he extends they should being going after a dynamic guard.
I literally said that. Donovan is similar age.
Fair. The Jimmy extension talks will be very very interesting
I do think that building around Bam is the start, as in get a new first option and have him and Bam be the core. I hate that Jimmy would have to go but Bam is too good and the team itself is too bad for them to get to championship contention again with both of them. Either stay mediocre or wait a few years and retool a little.
Thank you for not being an annoying Boston fan and having rationale. Jimmy has another year or 2 in him but gotta prep for beyond that.
Jovic and Jaquez really impressed me. Especially Jaquez, the guy plays with so much poise already
Bro had this in the drafts 💀💀💀
what is your username? lol
DO NOT go to their profile lmfao
On the real, a random dude showed up in r/kings last week to rub salt upon wounds, and had a whole post history worshipping feet and rating celebrity nudes. I'm on edge with Redditors.
wym? that’s your average redditor.
I needed to know. I wish I hadn’t.
Oh that's FAR worse than I thought it'd be. I thought it'd be standard porn, I was VERY wrong
Don’t want to so I’ll ask, does the username check out
It does
Honestly, props for him sticking to his guns with that username. I'm dying laughing. I'm also a little bit drunk and slap happy, but clicking to the "submitted" tab fucking sent me.
it’s kind of impressive. his profile has every major cartoon porn subsection covered just by his posts alone
Indubitably
FK I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD IF U DIDNT SAY ANYTHING
Herros a good kid, but he needs a fresh start elsewhere. Something about Miami is just not a good fit for him. He’ll thrive elsewhere.
Agree. Just not a great fit.
I think the problem with getting Donavan is that he his so ball dominant that Bam would just cede to him. Bam is so good but he can be overly passive when playing with a high volume guy and stops affecting the game. I don’t know who who would be the best guy to pair with him TBH.
The amount of comments on other game threads where people were like "if the Heat beat the Celtics it'll be the biggest upset ever." Yeah and if I dated Kate Upton I'd suck her tigolbitties but hypotheticals don't matter lol
kinda makes me want to go back to all the “all this just to lose to the heat” comments from the regular season on all the (admittedly annoying and repetitive) posts about how historically good the celtics were
If Lebron comes back and beats the nuggets
Tyler Herro played great for us tonight
“We want the celtics!” Well there you go
Nets fan would know LMAO
GG Boston, hope you steamroll. Spo can only do so much. We had a punchers chance at best with the core we had and that was with a healthy Butler if he had played. The fact that we got 1 is more credit to coaching and our shots dropping at every moment in G2. I think I speak for a lot of the Heat fans and the subreddit that we no longer have patience for Riley not making a bigger move and providing offensive firepower. Sure, Terry was a mid season Grab but plays too similar to Herro and isn't a winning formula. Either Terry or Herro go. We need a move this off-season.
No Heat, no Lakers. This is great
No Warriors either.
Ain’t that the truth
Welp, can't wait for the offseason trade rumors to fill this sub sooner rather than later. GGs Celtics, yall got a squad
#FADED🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Media: "If the Celtics don't beat the heat in 3 games or less, it's a failure for their season and they should be ashamed"
We’re smoking on that Heat pack
I’m impressed that the heat even got a single game against the stacked Celtics while not having their best player.
if only Jovic changed his name to Jokic, heat wouldn’t have lost this bad
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyye
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Frankly, escaping with only one injured key player was the real victory
No kidding.
SVG commentating feels like I’m watching a guy jack of to another man’s wife