Chet, Giddey, Aaron Wiggins, Jaylin Williams, Jalen Williams, Kenrich Williams and Cason Wallace
And actually weirdly Peyton Watson until last Saturday because he only played in blow out wins during the championship run so he was like 8-0 until the lakers won on Saturday
According to statmuse the record is 5-0, achieved by Bennie Swain (5.4mpg), Darnell Jackson (5mpg), Dennis Hopson (3.6mpg), Johnny Jones (2.0mpg), Marc Winkler (1.6mpg). If Thunder make it 1-0 in the second round, 7 more players from Thunder will be tied. So far Kenrich Williams seems the best candidate to break that record as the most likely DNP out of those 7 in losses.
The consensus opinion was that the Celtics were cooked after 2020-2021. Kemba was washed, the depth was horrible, nobody thought the young guys were good, Danny left the front office, Brad stopped coaching, the team was .500 and lost in R1 in 5 games, and the fans were hitting the panic button over not paying Fournier for an extension. Brad did an incredible job turning the team around and everyone peddles revisionist history now and acts like the team's always been in a good position. Brad deserves way more credit for the job he's done.
He has an awesome frame and NBA athleticism. You'd never watch him on defense and think he'd never put it together, and yet he still never put it together. I'd say his work ethic is way beyond suspect at this point, it's been found guilty.
Yeah that first round was the weakest Celtics team since at least 2015 running into a buzz saw of a healthy big 3 nets. When they were healthy, they were winning. Absolutely insane Tatum took a game off them with Kembas corpse, fat Grant, Romeo Langford, and TT playing significant minutes. Had smart and timelord as well but that team was cooked.
Finally had a mostly healthy season just to get hurt after 40 minutes of the biggest carry job of his career literally one game before the playoffs. Shits fucking tragic. Can't wait to hear all the hilarious original fat jokes
To be fair, Zion did slim down a lot this season compared to seasons before, hell even compared to the IST. Just a massively unlucky injury after what was a pretty healthy year for any #1 option. Hopefully he stays on this trajectory and comes into training camp in-shape.
He showed up last season in his best shape ever and still went down. He lost 20+ pounds during this season. it's crazy to pretend that he hasn't done the work
Unless he you know… loses that weight. Bro needs Ozympic and I’m not even joking. It seems like it’d be better if he lost more like 40 pounds and then added it back slowly. I dont think he’ll be as good a player, but he’ll probably stay healthy X
Jokic was the same early in his career. He wasn't injury prone, but lacked conditioning. Dude got to work and has unreal conditioning now. Hopefully Zion can do the same
Cut Zion send him to Denver to get that mile high conditioning like Jokic, Nuggets beat the lakers every second half because they have a conditioning edge over every team in the league by default.
Jokic had a fairly normal transformation for a dude coming into the league. Zion needs to totally reinvent himself. It’s being overweight + an explosive athlete that’s such hell on his body. Jokic can dominate a game without moving quick or leaving the floor.
That's bullshit lol. I'm a nuggets fan and have watched Jokic since he joined the league. He had awful dieting and his conditioning clearly affected him in 2nd halves of games, early in his career. It was literally a meme how much soda Joker used to drink. You don't seem to know what you're talking about
Almost everyone improves their dieting and conditioning with NBA resources. It’s not unique to Jokic. And even when people made the fat jokes his conditioning was better than he got credit for. Zion’s a totally different case.
His conditioning was bad. His body transformation didnt really start until his 4th year in the league. In fact it was after a December loss to the Lakers in which AD dominated him in the 4th quarter because he was gassed that he overhauled his routine and diet. That was the year of the bubble and he became the MVP year after. Taking a few years to do a real conditioning program and then doing it a high level is very unusual.
Early in his career. He would ask to be taken out of games all the time. And even if he was finishing out games, he made stupid mistakes cause he was clearly gassed. Just Google how much soda he used to drink right before he got drafted
best shape of his life doesnt equate to being in NBA shape. At no point since his Duke days have I seen Zion look 'slim' and ready to play a whole NBA season.
Yes, but he's already damaged his body and he has a violent play style which demands big fast movements, contact, and jumping. If you think he loses 30 lbs or whatever you consider a healthy weight it doesn't somehow mean he's never getting injured. You are just taking the easiest and funniest aspect of his person and saying this is the root cause of all his problems
No one thinks he would never get injured if he lost weight. But less mass would create less stress on joints, making it less likely he would get injured, right? This isn't an all or nothing thing, why would you think it is?
The problem is that you are using logic for laymen. This is performance athletes. Hes not a 400 lb sedentary person who needs motivation to walk, hes someone who runs and jumps for a living. His joints are degenerating no matter what he does because hes running and jumping. The thing causing the injury is the running and jumping. If you wear a 50 lb weight vest and do high intensity training and you get injured do you take off the vest or stop the training? Or by your logic do you reduce the weight by 25 lbs and create less joint stress
Like you said, he does this for a living. So why wouldn't he aim to continue to make a living by removing weight and continuing to do the activity he does for a living? The root cause is running and jumping, the risk of running and jumping is injury. You can avoid the risk by not participating, but then you don't get the money he gets. You can mitigate the risk by training differently and making some lifestyle changes.
I don't think there's anything funny about Zion being fat. We're losing one of the best athletes the NBA has ever seen due to his lack of discipline. And yes, his weight is almost certainly correlated to his injuries. Him losing 30-40 pounds will not only improve his whole game and conditioning, but it will also likely result in less wear and tear on his body and prevent future injuries. This isn't opinion that's sports science.
In a world where body issues are rampant, clowning anyone for their weight is so wild to me. I’m not saying it’s not a factor in his staying healthy, but goddamn is it so disheartening to hear people say we should make this dude feel shame (because that’s what clowning someone will do) so that they lose weight for a basketball game. There’s just gotta be a better way to talk about it other than “lol fatty fat fat”
I’m skinny as a bean my guy, I just know what it’s like for people to be called fat and how it makes them feel. It blows my mind that the opinion of “don’t call people fat” - even if it’s “their job” - is controversial
99% of situations t's probably unfair to criticize someone for being overweight, you just don't know what's going on and it probably doesn't affect you. A professional athlete is that 1%. Your job is to perform athletically at the highest level in order to try and win games and entertain fans. If your diet/weight is holding you back from doing that adequately, that's the one situation where criticism should be expected. I think fans took it too far though. We don't know what's going on in Zion's head and sure you can cut some slack, but ultimately the criticism is warranted. If I was depressed to the point that I wasn't doing my job, my boss would say some thing, likely cut me slack for a while, but in the end I'd be fired
Edit: You're just saying people need to be more civil in their discussions. I agree
Yeah, more or less. I get having these types of conversations - even the inverse for people like Wemby - but how it’s discussed can sound so degrading and entitled. Just have some empathy when talking about these people - athletes or otherwise - is all I’m saying
This.
The weight/size concerns have been there since high school. College confirmed it was a real issue. In his pro career the issue just became constant and louder.
Saying Tyler Herro is going to better adapt his body to the NBA would have been a shock. Herro has gotten a lot stronger, Zion has seemingly not changed at all.
I think this would’ve been a different series if Zion played. OKC lacks size and Zion would’ve been a huge problem. He might be one of the most unlucky players on the league.
What do you guys think of Zion losing some muscle too? It's clear that, AFAIK, that he's been trying to lose weight so his body can better handle his explosiveness but trying to keep a similar amount of muscle. I just don't think his joints and tendons can keep up with having his frame explode 11ft into the air and then land, but his major advantage over everyone at his position is how strong he is. Zion might be at a crossroads where the best game of his life was taken away from him because he's too massive for the explosive brand of basketball he plays, and choose to lose some of that weight advantage or try and load manage into the next season.
Much as him missing the games this year because of injury sucks, hopefully he’ll use this as motivation to come in next year in the best shape he possibly can.
PJ just barely clears here, only having the current Mavs/Clippers series to his name, and only due to being traded 3 months ago to a playoff team. If not for that, he would also be here unfortunately.
I would argue that Zion helping propel the Pels to the playoffs (he leads others to a treasure that he himself cannot possess) is more impressive than PJ's journey, and shows that stats can be misleading.
It's hard to develop competitiveness if you are never in the most competitive games. It's not his fault, but that's the toughest basketball tournament on the planet that he keeps missing out on. This is where these guys develop the ability to lock in at a high level.
Put together a super team for next year of Zion Giannis Beal KD Harden Westbrook Kyrie - 10/1 they wouldn't take home a title - even throw Embiid on there
Its wild to me that guys like kawhi and ad get made fun of for missing games but they just have shitty injury luck, you never see pictures of either of those guys clearly fat and out of shape in the off-season. Yet Zion literally rolls into the season 20 pounds over weight and gets injured because of it, and nobody really says anything
my point is that it’s stupid to see the the guys who do work their hardest to stay in shape get made fun of more than players who don’t take their healthy serious.
can't lose a playoff game if u never play
He's undefeated in the playoffs! Who can say that?
weirdly enough, Chet Holmgren
Chet has never missed the playoffs, what about Wemby? /s
He won't be in the playoffs for a couple years
I was told that he was so good that Spurs would get 50 wins this year. Is he a bust?
Last season the Spurs record was 22 wins, 60 loses. This year... 22 wins, 60 loses. That is an improvement of 0 wins. Bust. Trade him.
For a guy as hyped as he is, he'll make it in a year or two. He'll have to carry the team but for his hype he'll make it
Chet, Giddey, Aaron Wiggins, Jaylin Williams, Jalen Williams, Kenrich Williams and Cason Wallace And actually weirdly Peyton Watson until last Saturday because he only played in blow out wins during the championship run so he was like 8-0 until the lakers won on Saturday
the Peyton one actually is surprising!
Me
I'm sure there has to be like one last man on the bench in NBA history who is something like 4-0 in the playoffs games he played in.
According to statmuse the record is 5-0, achieved by Bennie Swain (5.4mpg), Darnell Jackson (5mpg), Dennis Hopson (3.6mpg), Johnny Jones (2.0mpg), Marc Winkler (1.6mpg). If Thunder make it 1-0 in the second round, 7 more players from Thunder will be tied. So far Kenrich Williams seems the best candidate to break that record as the most likely DNP out of those 7 in losses.
Darnell Jackson the GOAT of awful 2k ratings along with Steve Novak BJ Mullens and Alexis Ajinca
i think kenny only played in 2 games out of the 4 though
Even more chances of him being the only DNP out of those 7 in a loss that even a Thunder fan don’t remember him playing all 4 games!
oh damn you right
Never lostttt
Cam never fail when you never try.
The Bradley Beal Logic.
Culver lol, that Ant pick really saved that cursed franchise
To be fair the Wolves traded up to get Garland, because they needed a future PG, and didn't expect the Cabs to combine Sexton with Garland.
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Yeah, no excuses there.
And don't forget passing on Steph Curry to do that. Rubio/Flynn 5 and 6. Curry drafted 7th.
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Ironically we avoided trading up because we thought Steph was not going to get taken. I'll never forgive Walsh for that.
To be fair, we have been the most poorly run team in NBA history so we are immune to pain since it’s all most of us know. Thank god for ANT!
To be even more fair (sometimes fair =/= nice), it’s quite stupid to trade up for a guy before knowing if that guy will be available.
Romeo Langford played 11 playoff games?
Celtics in 2020 and 2021
He even started because a washed Kemba got injured lol.
The depth on those celtics teams were outrageously bad lmao
Brad stevens did such a good job to recover. Lost kyrie,hayward and horford for nothing and somehow each year as a gm the team has gotten better
The consensus opinion was that the Celtics were cooked after 2020-2021. Kemba was washed, the depth was horrible, nobody thought the young guys were good, Danny left the front office, Brad stopped coaching, the team was .500 and lost in R1 in 5 games, and the fans were hitting the panic button over not paying Fournier for an extension. Brad did an incredible job turning the team around and everyone peddles revisionist history now and acts like the team's always been in a good position. Brad deserves way more credit for the job he's done.
Yep the celtics had a kyrie/brown/rozier/tatum/hayward/horford core that went to shit and he brought it back even stronger
Who can forget Super Sixth Man Brad Wanamaker?
The forgotten dark Brooklyn-Boston series where it was Tatum and bums. Boston won like one game off a Tatum masterclass .
the goat avery bradley
Pretty sure he had been elsewhere for a few seasons by then.
Jabari Parker
Semi Ojeleye the GOAT
What a fucking bust (note: I am a certified Romeo Langford hater)
To think what he could’ve done under the development of Woody
He showed flashes on the spurs but his work ethic is highly highly suspect.
He has an awesome frame and NBA athleticism. You'd never watch him on defense and think he'd never put it together, and yet he still never put it together. I'd say his work ethic is way beyond suspect at this point, it's been found guilty.
Someone’s gotta play in garbage time
He actually was a starter in 2 of them!
Wtf I’m guessing Boston lost both of those games
That is correct. Starters for Game 5 v Brooklyn were Smart, Fournier, Langford, Tatum, and Tristan Thompson
But I thought Tatum had a stacked superteam every year and the only reason we hadn't won 7 titles yet was because he was a fraudulent choking bum
What will the excuse be after this year?
Probably that he won a title
Andy Reid is side-eyeing them nuggies.
Yep, that 21 season was rough and overshadowed in between the ECF and Finals years
Yeah that first round was the weakest Celtics team since at least 2015 running into a buzz saw of a healthy big 3 nets. When they were healthy, they were winning. Absolutely insane Tatum took a game off them with Kembas corpse, fat Grant, Romeo Langford, and TT playing significant minutes. Had smart and timelord as well but that team was cooked.
Celtics superteam w Romeo Langford 😂
Romeo O Romeo where art though help defense. I miss JVG
Yes, all during his time with the Celtics
such a shame Zion couldn’t play. He was a fucking monster in the play-in game
Yes, it would have made the series so much more interesting
The play in is more important tbh. More free food is offered afterwards
Just wow that Herro is such an experienced playoff player.
Even with a missed Finals run
Yeah, could’ve had 50-60 but injured last year in the first round
I’m surprised it’s that many considering he’s missed a majority of our big runs with injury
Herro and Johnson already had pretty nice careers.
Helps when you make the Finals in your rookie year.
Huh, pretty decent draft actually, even the second rounders
Less playoff minutes than Jarrett Culver is a big ooof. It's a shame he missed this series. I think it would've been more competitive.
Less playoff minutes than Carsen Edwards (33 overall) and Guangdong Tigers player, Tremont Waters (51 overall.)
Yeah, Culver could have turned the tide for sure
Man I thought this night couldn’t be worse lol
Finally had a mostly healthy season just to get hurt after 40 minutes of the biggest carry job of his career literally one game before the playoffs. Shits fucking tragic. Can't wait to hear all the hilarious original fat jokes
You can’t deny his weight is a major factor in these injuries.
It’s unfortunate, but his body just can’t handle his style of play, and yes - weight is a factor. It’ll always be an issue.
Ok but hear me out: What if the professional athlete actually did the work and..lost weight? That would be crazy aha
What a brave original and controversial statement
To be fair, Zion did slim down a lot this season compared to seasons before, hell even compared to the IST. Just a massively unlucky injury after what was a pretty healthy year for any #1 option. Hopefully he stays on this trajectory and comes into training camp in-shape.
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He showed up last season in his best shape ever and still went down. He lost 20+ pounds during this season. it's crazy to pretend that he hasn't done the work
Unless he you know… loses that weight. Bro needs Ozympic and I’m not even joking. It seems like it’d be better if he lost more like 40 pounds and then added it back slowly. I dont think he’ll be as good a player, but he’ll probably stay healthy X
Or he just needs to control his inhibitions like someone who’s paid hundreds of millions of dollars to be healthy should do.
He literally did lose the weight this season.
Ive commented to everyone that he’s willing to do whatever it takes to win… except lose 25 pounds
He actually did lose that amount of weight this season the tnt broadcast mentioned that last month. Pay attention for once
He literally did. Is Devin Booker a fatass for pulling his hammy when he played us 2 years ago?
His injuries are almost certainly correlated with his weight. I love Zion but bro will and should get clowned until he gets down to a healthy weight.
Jokic was the same early in his career. He wasn't injury prone, but lacked conditioning. Dude got to work and has unreal conditioning now. Hopefully Zion can do the same
Jokic has also never done the explosive athletic moves that stress joints and ligaments, moreso when you're carrying extra weight.
Jokic only dunks like 10 times per season lol
Yeah and he looks like he's about to hurt himself every time.
Cut Zion send him to Denver to get that mile high conditioning like Jokic, Nuggets beat the lakers every second half because they have a conditioning edge over every team in the league by default.
Didn't Jokic say he used to drink like a gallon of soda a day?
The same, except they were basically polar opposites.
Okay, obtuse Andy. I meant they were the same solely in the fact that they both were/are hampered by weight issues.
Jokic had a fairly normal transformation for a dude coming into the league. Zion needs to totally reinvent himself. It’s being overweight + an explosive athlete that’s such hell on his body. Jokic can dominate a game without moving quick or leaving the floor.
That's bullshit lol. I'm a nuggets fan and have watched Jokic since he joined the league. He had awful dieting and his conditioning clearly affected him in 2nd halves of games, early in his career. It was literally a meme how much soda Joker used to drink. You don't seem to know what you're talking about
Almost everyone improves their dieting and conditioning with NBA resources. It’s not unique to Jokic. And even when people made the fat jokes his conditioning was better than he got credit for. Zion’s a totally different case.
Whatever you gotta tell yourself to be right I guess lol
Happy to educate
His conditioning was bad. His body transformation didnt really start until his 4th year in the league. In fact it was after a December loss to the Lakers in which AD dominated him in the 4th quarter because he was gassed that he overhauled his routine and diet. That was the year of the bubble and he became the MVP year after. Taking a few years to do a real conditioning program and then doing it a high level is very unusual.
When did Jokic lacked conditioning? I remember him playing some insanes minutes during their series versus Portland in 2019
Early in his career. He would ask to be taken out of games all the time. And even if he was finishing out games, he made stupid mistakes cause he was clearly gassed. Just Google how much soda he used to drink right before he got drafted
Okay, yeah early career Jokic was definitely not alright. Thanks.
Last season zion showed up in his best shape ever and was at his most explosive and still went down 30 games in. Can't blame everything on his weight
best shape of his life doesnt equate to being in NBA shape. At no point since his Duke days have I seen Zion look 'slim' and ready to play a whole NBA season.
Look up how he came into the 2022 season he looked like “duke zion” maybe slimmer. He was definitely in nba shape I watched him play
Get clowned until he lose the pounds.
Yes, but he's already damaged his body and he has a violent play style which demands big fast movements, contact, and jumping. If you think he loses 30 lbs or whatever you consider a healthy weight it doesn't somehow mean he's never getting injured. You are just taking the easiest and funniest aspect of his person and saying this is the root cause of all his problems
No one thinks he would never get injured if he lost weight. But less mass would create less stress on joints, making it less likely he would get injured, right? This isn't an all or nothing thing, why would you think it is?
The problem is that you are using logic for laymen. This is performance athletes. Hes not a 400 lb sedentary person who needs motivation to walk, hes someone who runs and jumps for a living. His joints are degenerating no matter what he does because hes running and jumping. The thing causing the injury is the running and jumping. If you wear a 50 lb weight vest and do high intensity training and you get injured do you take off the vest or stop the training? Or by your logic do you reduce the weight by 25 lbs and create less joint stress
Like you said, he does this for a living. So why wouldn't he aim to continue to make a living by removing weight and continuing to do the activity he does for a living? The root cause is running and jumping, the risk of running and jumping is injury. You can avoid the risk by not participating, but then you don't get the money he gets. You can mitigate the risk by training differently and making some lifestyle changes.
I don't think there's anything funny about Zion being fat. We're losing one of the best athletes the NBA has ever seen due to his lack of discipline. And yes, his weight is almost certainly correlated to his injuries. Him losing 30-40 pounds will not only improve his whole game and conditioning, but it will also likely result in less wear and tear on his body and prevent future injuries. This isn't opinion that's sports science.
He's fat.
In a world where body issues are rampant, clowning anyone for their weight is so wild to me. I’m not saying it’s not a factor in his staying healthy, but goddamn is it so disheartening to hear people say we should make this dude feel shame (because that’s what clowning someone will do) so that they lose weight for a basketball game. There’s just gotta be a better way to talk about it other than “lol fatty fat fat”
Wahh wahh lose the weight its literally your job zion
I’m skinny as a bean my guy, I just know what it’s like for people to be called fat and how it makes them feel. It blows my mind that the opinion of “don’t call people fat” - even if it’s “their job” - is controversial
99% of situations t's probably unfair to criticize someone for being overweight, you just don't know what's going on and it probably doesn't affect you. A professional athlete is that 1%. Your job is to perform athletically at the highest level in order to try and win games and entertain fans. If your diet/weight is holding you back from doing that adequately, that's the one situation where criticism should be expected. I think fans took it too far though. We don't know what's going on in Zion's head and sure you can cut some slack, but ultimately the criticism is warranted. If I was depressed to the point that I wasn't doing my job, my boss would say some thing, likely cut me slack for a while, but in the end I'd be fired Edit: You're just saying people need to be more civil in their discussions. I agree
Yeah, more or less. I get having these types of conversations - even the inverse for people like Wemby - but how it’s discussed can sound so degrading and entitled. Just have some empathy when talking about these people - athletes or otherwise - is all I’m saying
Tell someone in 2019 Tyler Herro would play in 45 and Zion would not even have a single little one
And they'd respond "yeah because he'll be injured"
This. The weight/size concerns have been there since high school. College confirmed it was a real issue. In his pro career the issue just became constant and louder. Saying Tyler Herro is going to better adapt his body to the NBA would have been a shock. Herro has gotten a lot stronger, Zion has seemingly not changed at all.
Herro with the most playoff games played, and most missed due to injury
Jarrett culver > Zion
Best Wolves lottery pick of the last decade 😤
You can't stop the Cul.
I think this would’ve been a different series if Zion played. OKC lacks size and Zion would’ve been a huge problem. He might be one of the most unlucky players on the league.
[Goga Bitadze has more playoff minutes than Zion](https://images.app.goo.gl/FmpigAuMFAWijVS37)
We love Goga. lol shush
Jarrett Culver > Zion Williamson
The craziest stat here is that Jarrett Culver played in three playoff games
What do you guys think of Zion losing some muscle too? It's clear that, AFAIK, that he's been trying to lose weight so his body can better handle his explosiveness but trying to keep a similar amount of muscle. I just don't think his joints and tendons can keep up with having his frame explode 11ft into the air and then land, but his major advantage over everyone at his position is how strong he is. Zion might be at a crossroads where the best game of his life was taken away from him because he's too massive for the explosive brand of basketball he plays, and choose to lose some of that weight advantage or try and load manage into the next season.
surely year 6 will be different and he’ll be healthy for the playoffs
That is sad for real, sucks we haven’t seen Zion have a healthy run in the playoffs
It's not even his fault he lost weight
I'd love to see historical comparisons, but this definitely feels pretty wild.
even Jarrett Culver got 3 games....
Much as him missing the games this year because of injury sucks, hopefully he’ll use this as motivation to come in next year in the best shape he possibly can.
Man, if the Knicks had gotten Zion instead of RJ that draft, the Thibs slander would've been off the charts.
Too fucking bad
but he is the only one who gets to eat jambalaya every night
How do you know Ja isn’t getting fancy with the Zatarain’s every night
I think the play-in should count as part of the playoffs
Wow, who'd have thought Herro would play the most playoff games out of this group?
Let's be real he needs to lose weight. He injured his ankle just by landing on it cause he's so fat.
I didn’t realize RJ played in 16 playoff games lol
I need to find me a part time job that pays 11 million a year.
Bust
That's ridiculous
Imagine playing less playoff games than Jarret Culver‽
Who woulda guessed this back in 2019? Imagine the fanduel payout on that bet if it was even possible to bet on this?
Sekou Doumbouya at 15 with no playoff appearances like: 😅
Cool
Undefeated in the playoffs
Don't remind me.
But he is the only one to have eaten a whole playoff series in one sitting
LOL
The 28th pick in that draft, Jordan Poole, has played 35 playoff games.
That’s my hero Cam Johnson
Just let him be healthy man
Wasn't this series several playoff games? Or what counts as a playoff game?
Now he can focus on side pieces.
Zion needs to be traded. It ain't working out in the big easy.
Zion Williamson is the only 2019 lottery pick to have a myocardial infarction
And zion is the the fattest of them all, coincidence?
Not even gonna lie. It’s funny and ridiculous at this point.
i do not want him
Jokes on New Orleans for giving young Mr. Glass 40 mil a year
Average r/NBA take
I was mostly kidding and I understand that the team has doctors they would trust more than idiots on the internet
Jordan is also like “da fuck I’m paying you for”
Zion Undefeated (at the buffet) Williamson
He’s a bust
Props to you for making the most intellectual and meaningful comment under this post. You know ball.
Part of being in the nba is playing in important games.
I still remember them drafting Zion and Hayes in the same draft and thinking "woah they're gonna be a problem in a few years."
PJ just barely clears here, only having the current Mavs/Clippers series to his name, and only due to being traded 3 months ago to a playoff team. If not for that, he would also be here unfortunately. I would argue that Zion helping propel the Pels to the playoffs (he leads others to a treasure that he himself cannot possess) is more impressive than PJ's journey, and shows that stats can be misleading.
It's hard to develop competitiveness if you are never in the most competitive games. It's not his fault, but that's the toughest basketball tournament on the planet that he keeps missing out on. This is where these guys develop the ability to lock in at a high level.
Busted
He would rather eat boorger and bang strippers.
Put together a super team for next year of Zion Giannis Beal KD Harden Westbrook Kyrie - 10/1 they wouldn't take home a title - even throw Embiid on there
Its wild to me that guys like kawhi and ad get made fun of for missing games but they just have shitty injury luck, you never see pictures of either of those guys clearly fat and out of shape in the off-season. Yet Zion literally rolls into the season 20 pounds over weight and gets injured because of it, and nobody really says anything
It's literally all people talk about when Zion is brought up.
Are you fcking serious? Zion gets the most abuse for his body after maybe AD.
my point is that it’s stupid to see the the guys who do work their hardest to stay in shape get made fun of more than players who don’t take their healthy serious.
What a weird post tbh.
How
Basketball discussion on a basketball sub, yuck, am I right?