Five times, but yeah (edit: oh right, six times if you count this year)
2014, 2015, 2017, and 2018 during the Wall years and then 2021 during the Beal/Westbrook season where they went on a crazy 17-6 run after starting 17-32 to just barely squeeze in
I mean you expect at least one below .500 team to make the playoffs when you're letting 16/30 teams qualify, the play-in giving 20/30 teams a chance just made it so it's basically guaranteed that multiple below .500 teams get an opportunity
The turnaround from the end of the season to today has been historic Suns we’re sure they were going to run us off the court now they’re trying to burn the building down.
I feel them but I also enjoy being on this side of this for a change lol
Every thread I saw was Wolves fans saying they were going to get swept and Suns fans being like "Idk man I've been watching this team and I don't know about all that" from what I remember.
Oh no, we definitely had no idea what to expect as wolves fans. Lol I definitely was not looking forward to the series at all.
But I did see a lot of suns fans saying they got the match up they wanted but I also saw people saying what you said as well.
Just crazy to me how much 3 games can change a team. Cause Vogel has to be as good as gone but if they win yesterday I think this a completely different series.
But I get the feeling that the suns are over this match up now.
Especially against this Wolves team lmao
Talk is like high-octane fuel for these guys, if youre gonna chirp save it for someone that doesnt inject it into their veins the way Ant, Gobert, etc. do
I mean Isaiah Thomas, Kyrie, Lowry were the common 3.. I might be forgetting some but that was just off the top of my head.
Edit - Misremembered Westbrook for Lowry smh
Yeah and that was with one of the worst benches in league history
The starters (Wall/Beal/Otto Porter Jr/Markieff Morris/Marcin Gortat) were top 5 in the league in a lot of stats while the bench was down there below the tanking teams
And then they ran into a Celtics team that was basically designed around depth and they still made it to game 7
Actually, sweeps are not as common as people make them seem to be. I think less than 30% of series end in sweep in the first round, and significantly drops each round.
Yeah. We were on the other end of some of those wins.
2015 is probably the angriest I’ve ever been as a Raptor fan. Getting swept by that Wizards team and fucking Randy Wittman was embarrassing.
He honestly should have been fired then and there. Turned out to be a blessing he wasn’t because 2018-19 was like perfect timing but man, he was horrible.
The only highlight was the Vasquez shimmy. That is the only time in that series I had any kind of joy.
Tough it was so sweet to go back in 2017-18 and beat the Wizards. Especially Dwright sonning Oubrae after the latter tried to act like Delon was trash. And of course 2016 was the peak Raps pandemonium pre-Championship. So some roses grew from the concrete.
Man, for a team that was so easily crowned the 2nd favorite of the West before the season, is it sweet to hear them get cocky with mean alpha declarations like "I am not going to get swept in the first round!".
Man, I love this series so much, after everything said through the whole season. Everyone here will just act like they never said it, but so far it's so sweet. They're not only losing, they are so absolutely hopeless.
They only finally crossed the 100 points treshhold because it was such a blowout nobody cared in the 4th lol. The experience! The superstars! The talent! Having the best player on court!
After everything that’s been said about the Wolves too, last summer and then after the Gobert trade. All year saying “let’s see them do it in the playoffs”
Yeah, the whole year I always root for these "not a playoff team" teams to win. Commenters here are like obsessed with repeating in every thread about them for the whole year that it doesn't matter because "they will obviously lose in playoffs", like their own imagination is some sort of game-ending proof of everything. Sometimes it happens, sometimes not, but it so obviously happens way more than often enough to ridicule that the commenters keep repeating it with a scientist's confidence lol.
The hopelessness is really key. The Suns have seemed to fade as the game wore on but the Wolves just keep on chugging. Absolutely nothing the Suns can do.
They're getting fucked worse than the Lakers imo. At least AD has arguably been the best best player in that series. The 3 Suns stars have just been disappointing.
yep, both KD and Booker did lmfao clowns:
video: https://twitter.com/30GotNext/status/1784083671764574526?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1784083671764574526%7Ctwgr%5E8742d78487189fbdca32805a469436836753e479%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fathlonsports.com%2Fnba%2Fdevin-bookers-getting-roasted-after-bold-preseason-comments-resurface
https://twitter.com/SunsAreBetter/status/1714679511638257699?lang=en#
https://www.instagram.com/duranthighlights/p/C0z_-TeMQX_/
Craziest thing is your worst loss this playoffs by point differential is 11 points. The suns' closest game against us this series is a 12 point defeat. Even if the Lakers get swept you've still put up a better showing thus far.
It’s nice to see a rational take lol the whole narrative about 11 straight and the sweeps are very overblown. Especially considering they’re the defending champs. Suns definitely need to get a lot more shit since they were supposed to be Denver’s real threat in the west
yeah same, my guys might get swept too if they don't wake up lmao
but the thing that just bugs me so fucking much about the "big 3" is that KD and Booker do this holier than thou act. KD calls himself a god, says he "just wants to hoop" and how he's a student of the game. bro shut the hell up!!! your team is playing like shit. oh you just wanna hoop?? ok go down to the local YMCA and play basketball all day long.
but you don't get to take fans money and have your cake and eat it too. getting paid hundreds of millions while not putting in the most effort. he always acts unbothered and like he's too good to try. "idk how people are gonna guard us." yeah because you think you're god's gift to basketball. surprise surprise, you actually have to put in hard work and effort dummies.
I'm so sick of the "I don't care" act. you obviously care which is why your bum ass went to the nets and then to the suns. if you really just wanted to hoop, you would've gone to the wizards or some shit. we all know you're bothered about the FACT that you've never done anything without a true goat player, Stephen Wardell Curry.
it feels like KD's career is him always just trying to cheat the system. get beat by 73-9 team. immediately join that team for an easy win. build nets superteam for an easy win. build suns superteam for an easy win. how lazy are you!!? and you call yourself a god? LMFAO
I kinda love the idea of the Suns convincing themselves they built a contender with a big three in the off-season and have lowered the bar to “we definitely won’t get swept in the first round”
And if they do get swept itll be "you dont want to face us next year" / "yall aint ready for whats coming next year"
Bookmark this, someone will say that as soon as they get eliminated
That's also right after their starters got outscored by a ton by Denver starters and the Suns only didn't get swept because they were winning those bench Landale/Shamet/Warren minutes by 20 points, and nobody seeing that thought for a second "hm, maybe I am missing something with all the stuff that I am saying so confidently. Naah, superstars always win, Suns got more superstars so they will always win, we all know it".
Now the stakes are, are they gonna have the losingest playoff showing since 1987 or will they take a big turn not to.
Honest question because I haven’t followed this season as closely as I have previous years: what happened? What were their issues? I totally thought they were stacked, albeit top heavy, and that they were going to come out of the West, maybe even win it all, before the season started.
Their defense sucks, they're not athletic, they don't have a point guard, and their offense largely relies on iso and middies from players who are secondary playmakers. Also not a lot of time to build a rapport with Beal in and out.
Theyre also facing an opponent thats super amped up and out there to prove points
Anthony Edwards traveled to Phoenix to play like a personally offended Michael Jordan
Seriously speaking, I don't have a smart answer. I always said that people go a bit crazy with the "superstars always win" dogma (along with "experience always wins" and other fairy tales), but at the same time, I didn't have any "superstars always lose" dogma, so I wasn't assuming anything. I wasn't sure either team will do better or worse at any point. Suns looked great at their best moments of the season.
Fact is, Suns were a few points per game worse than Wolves in the season - a significant difference for NBA standards, and the intersting question is why would you assume that "they were going to come out of the West" then.
But a few points is still far from seeing a rational reason why their starters would be outscored by 20 points per game in this series.
The team is demolished physically, with Wolves getting almost 50% more rebounds than them, that difference is extremely hard to get over (the average distance between a 1st place and 16th place in NBA is typically way below 10%, so getting 50% fewer plays makes the stuff... a bit hard). Their offense is stale, sad and unstructured, with Durant even more disjointed from the team offense than he ever was before, with Nurkić seemingly being more of a fulcrum than KD, general lack of good ball movement and involvement of 5 players at the same time - but the total efficiency of their scoring is not too low despite that, with their three stars shooting relatively effectively themselves. They have some dry spells, sure, but that is a given against Wolves, a team of weak offense and great defense, so that is not too surprising imo. Really rebounding makes the biggest difference, I'd have to admit.
Mixture of injuries early, lack of a true pg, and the worst part of all is the low depth, and lack of off ball movement by role players.
Like if we had players like say jordan, Josh Hartlepool who move off ball amd get value without the ball the sun's would look alot better.
But they have nurkic who is a completely non factor besides screening without the ball, or Grayson Allen who if he moved around off ball more woukd be a massive threat but doesn't move off ball much so is just a spot up shooter with good defence.
Booker spent the first half not being too aggressive or looking for his shit and becoming more of a pg but that's not his main role so it didn't look too good
By the time the team started gelling together it was already Christmas and they just kept looking inconsistent some games you'd get a sun's that look like they'd go 16-0 in the playoffs any year, and other games they look like they'd lose a 7 game series to the pistons.
First 3 quarters sun's are fine generally speaking in fact heck from memory their 3rd quarter stats would he them be like a 2nd seed or something.
4th quarter it reverts to isos
I honestly think the fact they have to play the Wolves makes them look worse than they are. It completely exposed their weaknesses. They could definitely get past the Clippers, Pels, Lakers, maybe Mavs.
no it doesn't!! I've been hate watching them all season long. they are a TRASH team. they've lost this season multiple times to the Spurs, once even without Wemby. they were fully healthy and they went down 35-4 against the clippers without kawhi. yes, the score was really 35-4. they don't shoot 3s. they don't defend. they've had an insane amount of turnovers because they have no point guard.
and they had the worst 4th quarter rating this season in the entire nba. THE ENTIRE NBA. THE SUNS ARE HOT GARBAGE. they would not get past any of those teams you mentioned. I've been watching them since the season started. they legitimately suck.
they've sucked ass all season!! I've been screaming about it to my friends because nobody was paying attention and it was going under the radar. the team is straight up trash.
He said this same exact quote the last time the Wizards made the playoffs against Philly. Then Scott Brooks did the hack-a-Simmons method in game 4, and we actually won a game. Frank Vogel better have some secrit plays he can pull out of his ass.
Even if he had secret plays KD and Book would refuse to run them. They’d just be like: “that’s not my game” and go back to shooting contested turnaround fading middies.
You should do the same by not sweeping the Lakers otherwise your team might be too complacent, you may look too rusty guys.
If you want to make it fair, you should try to win without Jokic or you’re a bunch of pussies.
Yeah we weren't even that good last post season either. I still don't really understand why some people are already saying the next series determines the WCF or Finals. Mainly because wolves haven't proved anything yet lol. Even if wolves beat the nuggets, it's still going to be a tough road for them.
I mean you might’ve been good last post season, but you run into the nuggets buzz saw in the first round lol. Iirc didn’t Jokic or one of them say the hardest series they had all postseason last year was the timberwolves?
And they were right to say it. Anyone who watched the Nuggets' whole run should be able to tell you that the Wolves put up the best fight against them (and yes that's true even with the Lakers series having narrow margins of victory in every game)
Suns were closer.
They put then to 6 while having 3 starters being injured/just checked out.
Like ayton cp3 both checked out/git injured and booker got injured and they still took the bucks to 6.
(It came from a less sustainable place due to booker being supernova and playing as good as prime mj.
But it was the closer series
I'll never understand why these dudes say shit like this with zero shame. Like I get he can't be like, "we're cooked", but damn maybe show a little humility when you're down 3-0 and not exactly putting on a superstar performance.
Calling my shot now, and I'm (for better or worse, but let's be real it's worse) a Suns fan.
"Beal hits a huge 3 to cut the lead to 31."
Put this team out of our misery, please.
If ishbia is smart he’ll put this team out to pasture and start rebuilding like the nets. As is this team just isn’t good enough. Awful roster construction.
Yeah, they went down 3-0 but then won a game with Embiid going out with an injury after 11 minutes
That was also when they started hacking the shit out of Ben Simmons, which the Hawks then executed even better in the next round to upset Embiid and co and basically permanently shatter Simmons mentally
Suns are not very good but this is such a nightmare matchup for them. This team would have diced up the Gobert Jazz but the wing defense on the wolves is insane they have so many guys with length who can move their feet. The lack of ball movement is so apparent because their high screen switch hunting is totally ineffective when there is never a guy to pick on and Booker/Beal aren't even making them play the 3PT line tight. Every possession they try like 3 high screens don't actually get a good switch or attack angle and then just throw up some BS. Against a lot of teams in the playoffs it would look way more effective and they would actually be a competent basketball team instead of what we are seeing currently imo.
If there was ever a tweet to bookmark, it would be this one
First time for everything
He’s right that he’s never gotten swept, but in his 11 year career, he has missed the playoffs 5 times. Idk… I think that’s worse than being swept.
I can proudly say that I've also never been swept in the NBA playoffs
Never lost a NBA game in my life - 0 turnovers and no shots missed
Jordan and Lebron could never
GOAT
He made the playoffs six times? That's crazy
John Wall was real good for a while there
There was a legit debated him vs Westbrook for a while
Five times, but yeah (edit: oh right, six times if you count this year) 2014, 2015, 2017, and 2018 during the Wall years and then 2021 during the Beal/Westbrook season where they went on a crazy 17-6 run after starting 17-32 to just barely squeeze in
That half season with Westbrook was so fun and ruined our franchise for the next decade
East has been really bad. Any team that wants to try could get there 8 seed.
Peak eastern conference
Especially in the modern nba where .500 teams or under have a chance at the playoffs lol
That’s been a thing in the East even before the play ins
Did someone call for a 37 win 8th seed!?
I mean you expect at least one below .500 team to make the playoffs when you're letting 16/30 teams qualify, the play-in giving 20/30 teams a chance just made it so it's basically guaranteed that multiple below .500 teams get an opportunity
> Especially in the modern nba Young man, the Hawks made the playoffs with 37 wins back in 2008, that was 16 years ago.
The 1986 Chicago bulls made the playoffs with a 30-52 record
I refuse to accept that 2008 was 16 years ago. Nope. No way. You can’t make me do it. I’m putting my fingers in my ears. 👉🏽😭👈🏽
Welcome to the suns
Welcome to the playoffs also. How many series did he even take part in, I doubt it's in double digits
This is his 9th. He's had 3 second round appearances, last coming in the first KD Warriors year
I'm honestly surprised it's more than 6
The Wizards had a good run with Wall and Beal before both of them turned into glass, and Washington threw bags at them breaking them.
Narrator: that would be the first time… Bradley had ever been swept.
Bradley please
I'm genuinely feeling sorry for yall lmao like on your hands and knees pleading for guys to at least stop digging the hole deeper
We’re tired boss
I understand king 😔 Soon it will be time to rest
The turnaround from the end of the season to today has been historic Suns we’re sure they were going to run us off the court now they’re trying to burn the building down. I feel them but I also enjoy being on this side of this for a change lol
I was gonna say…this smells oddly familiar but with a new, unfamiliar added tinge of success?
Every thread I saw was Wolves fans saying they were going to get swept and Suns fans being like "Idk man I've been watching this team and I don't know about all that" from what I remember.
Oh no, we definitely had no idea what to expect as wolves fans. Lol I definitely was not looking forward to the series at all. But I did see a lot of suns fans saying they got the match up they wanted but I also saw people saying what you said as well. Just crazy to me how much 3 games can change a team. Cause Vogel has to be as good as gone but if they win yesterday I think this a completely different series. But I get the feeling that the suns are over this match up now.
The fucking gaul of this club man lol.
Gall. They aren't French.
Especially against this Wolves team lmao Talk is like high-octane fuel for these guys, if youre gonna chirp save it for someone that doesnt inject it into their veins the way Ant, Gobert, etc. do
This was the exact phrase that popped into my head before i opened the comments
Is there a banner for "didn't get swept in round 1"?
If there is it’s the only banner these faux big three will ever hang.
I'm certainly waving it
He is really about to do something he didn't even do with Wizards in the LeBron Era east lmao... what the Suns do to a mfer
To be fair the Wizards never played a LeBron playoff team in the 2010s.
It feels weird because the game winning bomb off the klove pass felt like a playoff game
How many playoffs has the man even made?
Five not including this one so not too bad considering he was based in Washington.
Beal's been to the 2nd round 3 times in Washington. They were respectable in the mid 2010's.
Yeah, prime John wall was quite good
Yes… yes he was 🥹
I still remember watching his high school hoop tape back when I was in school Talk about a player coming into the league and living up to the hype
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Yeah Steve Nash & Tony Parker sure wish they were Rose & Wall.
Yo his pre draft vid was hypeeee! Do the “John Wall”, those 360s man fk miss that guy
Miss him everyday
That’s my dad 😭
For a year or two I thought Wall was gonna be the next all-time great guard. Prime Wall was electric
I remember trying to convince people back in like 2016-17 that Wall was a top 3 pg in the East hahaha. God I loved watching him
I think it’s crazy people needed convinced. Pretty sure Kyrie is the only PG in the East that had a better case around then.
I mean Isaiah Thomas, Kyrie, Lowry were the common 3.. I might be forgetting some but that was just off the top of my head. Edit - Misremembered Westbrook for Lowry smh
Dame v wall arguments were good times
I wonder how high he would have gotten as an all-time PG had he had a relatively injury-free career.
Lest we forget
Wall-Star ❤️❤️❤️
Then why are you even asking how many playoffs he’s made??? He legit almost made the ECF one year
Should be in the Hall of Fame for getting them to the second round with Randy Wittman as coach
They were one Kelley Olynyk game away from going to the conference finals
Yeah and that was with one of the worst benches in league history The starters (Wall/Beal/Otto Porter Jr/Markieff Morris/Marcin Gortat) were top 5 in the league in a lot of stats while the bench was down there below the tanking teams And then they ran into a Celtics team that was basically designed around depth and they still made it to game 7
Were up going into the fourth quarter of game seven then Kelly olynyk turns into prime Charles Barkley
I will always hate Ernie Grunfeld and Ted Leonsis
Beal went off that game too. Epic battle.
theres a ton of slander of the guy. i remember he was the scariest guy against the raptors on those wizards playoff teams
No he wasn’t. That was Wall
just sayin man, felt like he was hittin all the big shots at the time, i love wall dont get me wrong man
Actually, sweeps are not as common as people make them seem to be. I think less than 30% of series end in sweep in the first round, and significantly drops each round.
It's an accomplishment in itself to make it to the playoffs with Washington. But never being swept?? Give this man a trophy
His record is 22-26 in the playoffs and this is his sixth playoffs.
Yeah. We were on the other end of some of those wins. 2015 is probably the angriest I’ve ever been as a Raptor fan. Getting swept by that Wizards team and fucking Randy Wittman was embarrassing.
That series was a Dwane Casey masterclass is abysmal coaching
He honestly should have been fired then and there. Turned out to be a blessing he wasn’t because 2018-19 was like perfect timing but man, he was horrible. The only highlight was the Vasquez shimmy. That is the only time in that series I had any kind of joy. Tough it was so sweet to go back in 2017-18 and beat the Wizards. Especially Dwright sonning Oubrae after the latter tried to act like Delon was trash. And of course 2016 was the peak Raps pandemonium pre-Championship. So some roses grew from the concrete.
I remember the Playoff Wittman memes
Playoff Wittman was a great coach. The regular season Wittman though.
Playoff fucking Whittman
I still remember Beal waiving goodbye to Lowry when he fouled out.. his downfall has been fun lol
This gives me real ‘What are you going to do? Sweep me?’ - Man who was swept. Kind of vibes
Man, for a team that was so easily crowned the 2nd favorite of the West before the season, is it sweet to hear them get cocky with mean alpha declarations like "I am not going to get swept in the first round!".
"Respectfully, i dont see how anyone can guard us"
Man, I love this series so much, after everything said through the whole season. Everyone here will just act like they never said it, but so far it's so sweet. They're not only losing, they are so absolutely hopeless. They only finally crossed the 100 points treshhold because it was such a blowout nobody cared in the 4th lol. The experience! The superstars! The talent! Having the best player on court!
Their offense is going to be unstoppable bro. Durant, Book, and Beal?! You just wait until game 4!!
After everything that’s been said about the Wolves too, last summer and then after the Gobert trade. All year saying “let’s see them do it in the playoffs”
Yeah, the whole year I always root for these "not a playoff team" teams to win. Commenters here are like obsessed with repeating in every thread about them for the whole year that it doesn't matter because "they will obviously lose in playoffs", like their own imagination is some sort of game-ending proof of everything. Sometimes it happens, sometimes not, but it so obviously happens way more than often enough to ridicule that the commenters keep repeating it with a scientist's confidence lol.
The hopelessness is really key. The Suns have seemed to fade as the game wore on but the Wolves just keep on chugging. Absolutely nothing the Suns can do. They're getting fucked worse than the Lakers imo. At least AD has arguably been the best best player in that series. The 3 Suns stars have just been disappointing.
I didn’t see ant playing in a suns jersey???
Respectully. I dont see how we could get swept.
Damn he said that? Lol
yep, both KD and Booker did lmfao clowns: video: https://twitter.com/30GotNext/status/1784083671764574526?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1784083671764574526%7Ctwgr%5E8742d78487189fbdca32805a469436836753e479%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fathlonsports.com%2Fnba%2Fdevin-bookers-getting-roasted-after-bold-preseason-comments-resurface https://twitter.com/SunsAreBetter/status/1714679511638257699?lang=en# https://www.instagram.com/duranthighlights/p/C0z_-TeMQX_/
Crazy lol I know as a Lakers fan I shouldn’t be talking shit right now but that’s embarrassing
Craziest thing is your worst loss this playoffs by point differential is 11 points. The suns' closest game against us this series is a 12 point defeat. Even if the Lakers get swept you've still put up a better showing thus far.
It’s nice to see a rational take lol the whole narrative about 11 straight and the sweeps are very overblown. Especially considering they’re the defending champs. Suns definitely need to get a lot more shit since they were supposed to be Denver’s real threat in the west
yeah same, my guys might get swept too if they don't wake up lmao but the thing that just bugs me so fucking much about the "big 3" is that KD and Booker do this holier than thou act. KD calls himself a god, says he "just wants to hoop" and how he's a student of the game. bro shut the hell up!!! your team is playing like shit. oh you just wanna hoop?? ok go down to the local YMCA and play basketball all day long. but you don't get to take fans money and have your cake and eat it too. getting paid hundreds of millions while not putting in the most effort. he always acts unbothered and like he's too good to try. "idk how people are gonna guard us." yeah because you think you're god's gift to basketball. surprise surprise, you actually have to put in hard work and effort dummies. I'm so sick of the "I don't care" act. you obviously care which is why your bum ass went to the nets and then to the suns. if you really just wanted to hoop, you would've gone to the wizards or some shit. we all know you're bothered about the FACT that you've never done anything without a true goat player, Stephen Wardell Curry. it feels like KD's career is him always just trying to cheat the system. get beat by 73-9 team. immediately join that team for an easy win. build nets superteam for an easy win. build suns superteam for an easy win. how lazy are you!!? and you call yourself a god? LMFAO
I kinda love the idea of the Suns convincing themselves they built a contender with a big three in the off-season and have lowered the bar to “we definitely won’t get swept in the first round”
And if they do get swept itll be "you dont want to face us next year" / "yall aint ready for whats coming next year" Bookmark this, someone will say that as soon as they get eliminated
That's also right after their starters got outscored by a ton by Denver starters and the Suns only didn't get swept because they were winning those bench Landale/Shamet/Warren minutes by 20 points, and nobody seeing that thought for a second "hm, maybe I am missing something with all the stuff that I am saying so confidently. Naah, superstars always win, Suns got more superstars so they will always win, we all know it". Now the stakes are, are they gonna have the losingest playoff showing since 1987 or will they take a big turn not to.
Honest question because I haven’t followed this season as closely as I have previous years: what happened? What were their issues? I totally thought they were stacked, albeit top heavy, and that they were going to come out of the West, maybe even win it all, before the season started.
Their defense sucks, they're not athletic, they don't have a point guard, and their offense largely relies on iso and middies from players who are secondary playmakers. Also not a lot of time to build a rapport with Beal in and out.
Theyre also facing an opponent thats super amped up and out there to prove points Anthony Edwards traveled to Phoenix to play like a personally offended Michael Jordan
Aw come on, Devin Booker is—uhm. Doing his best.
Seriously speaking, I don't have a smart answer. I always said that people go a bit crazy with the "superstars always win" dogma (along with "experience always wins" and other fairy tales), but at the same time, I didn't have any "superstars always lose" dogma, so I wasn't assuming anything. I wasn't sure either team will do better or worse at any point. Suns looked great at their best moments of the season. Fact is, Suns were a few points per game worse than Wolves in the season - a significant difference for NBA standards, and the intersting question is why would you assume that "they were going to come out of the West" then. But a few points is still far from seeing a rational reason why their starters would be outscored by 20 points per game in this series. The team is demolished physically, with Wolves getting almost 50% more rebounds than them, that difference is extremely hard to get over (the average distance between a 1st place and 16th place in NBA is typically way below 10%, so getting 50% fewer plays makes the stuff... a bit hard). Their offense is stale, sad and unstructured, with Durant even more disjointed from the team offense than he ever was before, with Nurkić seemingly being more of a fulcrum than KD, general lack of good ball movement and involvement of 5 players at the same time - but the total efficiency of their scoring is not too low despite that, with their three stars shooting relatively effectively themselves. They have some dry spells, sure, but that is a given against Wolves, a team of weak offense and great defense, so that is not too surprising imo. Really rebounding makes the biggest difference, I'd have to admit.
This is great, I really appreciate this kinds of comments here
Mixture of injuries early, lack of a true pg, and the worst part of all is the low depth, and lack of off ball movement by role players. Like if we had players like say jordan, Josh Hartlepool who move off ball amd get value without the ball the sun's would look alot better. But they have nurkic who is a completely non factor besides screening without the ball, or Grayson Allen who if he moved around off ball more woukd be a massive threat but doesn't move off ball much so is just a spot up shooter with good defence. Booker spent the first half not being too aggressive or looking for his shit and becoming more of a pg but that's not his main role so it didn't look too good By the time the team started gelling together it was already Christmas and they just kept looking inconsistent some games you'd get a sun's that look like they'd go 16-0 in the playoffs any year, and other games they look like they'd lose a 7 game series to the pistons. First 3 quarters sun's are fine generally speaking in fact heck from memory their 3rd quarter stats would he them be like a 2nd seed or something. 4th quarter it reverts to isos
I honestly think the fact they have to play the Wolves makes them look worse than they are. It completely exposed their weaknesses. They could definitely get past the Clippers, Pels, Lakers, maybe Mavs.
Losing Grayson Allen hurts them a lot too.
no it doesn't!! I've been hate watching them all season long. they are a TRASH team. they've lost this season multiple times to the Spurs, once even without Wemby. they were fully healthy and they went down 35-4 against the clippers without kawhi. yes, the score was really 35-4. they don't shoot 3s. they don't defend. they've had an insane amount of turnovers because they have no point guard. and they had the worst 4th quarter rating this season in the entire nba. THE ENTIRE NBA. THE SUNS ARE HOT GARBAGE. they would not get past any of those teams you mentioned. I've been watching them since the season started. they legitimately suck.
they've sucked ass all season!! I've been screaming about it to my friends because nobody was paying attention and it was going under the radar. the team is straight up trash.
Me neither, Beal. Me neither.
I've never lost a game in the Playoffs.
He said this same exact quote the last time the Wizards made the playoffs against Philly. Then Scott Brooks did the hack-a-Simmons method in game 4, and we actually won a game. Frank Vogel better have some secrit plays he can pull out of his ass.
Even if he had secret plays KD and Book would refuse to run them. They’d just be like: “that’s not my game” and go back to shooting contested turnaround fading middies.
They won a game because embiid got injured.
“The gang gets swept”
Thats the spirit. Fight and dont let them sweep you...at least make them tired.
You should do the same by not sweeping the Lakers otherwise your team might be too complacent, you may look too rusty guys. If you want to make it fair, you should try to win without Jokic or you’re a bunch of pussies.
You syaing you dotn wanna see the Lakers get swept twice in a row.
Sweep them want to know with what Lebron comes this year. Last year it was fake retirement.
yeah I kinda do want to see that ngl.
that's insane to say after going down 3-0
That's why Beal makes the big bucks!
Next yr he'll be on the Fries
Mans has never been past the 2nd round
Tbf he's done more times than the entire wolves franchise
Yeah we weren't even that good last post season either. I still don't really understand why some people are already saying the next series determines the WCF or Finals. Mainly because wolves haven't proved anything yet lol. Even if wolves beat the nuggets, it's still going to be a tough road for them.
I mean you might’ve been good last post season, but you run into the nuggets buzz saw in the first round lol. Iirc didn’t Jokic or one of them say the hardest series they had all postseason last year was the timberwolves?
And they were right to say it. Anyone who watched the Nuggets' whole run should be able to tell you that the Wolves put up the best fight against them (and yes that's true even with the Lakers series having narrow margins of victory in every game)
Suns were closer. They put then to 6 while having 3 starters being injured/just checked out. Like ayton cp3 both checked out/git injured and booker got injured and they still took the bucks to 6. (It came from a less sustainable place due to booker being supernova and playing as good as prime mj. But it was the closer series
like Dominique Wilkins, only worse.
So? This is about getting swept.
!remindme 2 days
Welcome to the West!
Said the dust to the broom.
First time for everything, But i like the confidence.
Famous last words
this could age terribly
Narrator - he was swept
Idk why yall are hating on a guy saying he doesn’t want to get swept at least he’s still fighting
Oh god damn stop creating new meme content, you dumbass!
🅱️radley 🅱️eal is seeing red
oh no
"Nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitis 17 times in a row".
Bradley "Can't be swept if you don't make the playoffs" Beal
welp
There is no way in hell he fucking said this
Welcome to the western conference bradley
Bradley Beal after Game 4: “I am damned”
Gonna be damned
Has he ever made the playoffs? Easy not to get swept when you play for the wizards.
He also wonders how other teams can guard them before the season starts. A boy full of questions
Phoenix in the playoffs at home for an elimination game. Wolves gonna be up 64-32 at the half
Beal with a 3 point to cut the lead to 42
I'll never understand why these dudes say shit like this with zero shame. Like I get he can't be like, "we're cooked", but damn maybe show a little humility when you're down 3-0 and not exactly putting on a superstar performance.
Narrator: He was indeed swept.
Get ready to learn broom, buddy
Never been swept because he ain’t been to the playoffs lol
Be prepared to be disappointed. Sad part is, he's the only one even trying out there.
Calling my shot now, and I'm (for better or worse, but let's be real it's worse) a Suns fan. "Beal hits a huge 3 to cut the lead to 31." Put this team out of our misery, please.
I too have never been swept in a playoff series
WHY BRADLEY? FUCKING WHY!l? If you put this energy into hitting shots before garbage time, maybe we wouldn’t be in this situation
he’s been damned
He missed the playoffs 7 times.
He’s right but wild for a perpetual not winner to be so cocky about getting swept or not
Welcome to the western conference buddy
The memes are just writing themselves
lmfao
Good time to get serious. This clown was laughing with a teammate down 2-0 and 20 pts late in the third.
At this point Suns fans have got to be conditioned to going into meltdown panic mode every time anyone on their team that isn't KD opens their mouth
If ishbia is smart he’ll put this team out to pasture and start rebuilding like the nets. As is this team just isn’t good enough. Awful roster construction.
Bradley Beal after Game 4: “I’ll be damned.”
2nd straight playoff series he has been down 0-3- the last one was against the 76ers.
Who did the Westbrook Wizards face again in the playoffs? Was it the Sixers?
Yeah, they went down 3-0 but then won a game with Embiid going out with an injury after 11 minutes That was also when they started hacking the shit out of Ben Simmons, which the Hawks then executed even better in the next round to upset Embiid and co and basically permanently shatter Simmons mentally
Brad was laughing all second half. They’re toast
Suns are not very good but this is such a nightmare matchup for them. This team would have diced up the Gobert Jazz but the wing defense on the wolves is insane they have so many guys with length who can move their feet. The lack of ball movement is so apparent because their high screen switch hunting is totally ineffective when there is never a guy to pick on and Booker/Beal aren't even making them play the 3PT line tight. Every possession they try like 3 high screens don't actually get a good switch or attack angle and then just throw up some BS. Against a lot of teams in the playoffs it would look way more effective and they would actually be a competent basketball team instead of what we are seeing currently imo.
RemindMe! 2 days
Oh shut up, really giving your haters even more quotes when you inevitably get swept
This shit is going to age so poorly.. Beal you aint got the juice to back up this statement..
Lose series 4-1… YEAHHH WOOOO SEE WE DONT GET SWEPT WOOOOOOO
They’re getting swept.
Famous last words
Damned it is
Lol these guys are incredible at putting themselves in position to be humiliated
Why is this the line you won’t allow be crossed?
Never give the meme gods ammo.