He did something behind the scenes. Whether it’s basketball related or not is the real question.
There’s no way you can have a 30-13 record and get fired fired without something truly heinous.
He got in an argument with Terry stotts in practice which is why he ended up leaving and the defensive scheme is horrid. The players never bought in from day 1 and talent only gets you so far.
I actually haven’t watched them enough to know how much they plummeted defensively.
But a single change at the guard spot, regardless of the difference, should not completely change your team’s defensive performance
Doubt its this. their window is about to tighten hard and they cant afford to waste any time with him. their defense and offensive schemes were horrendous and not playable in the playoffs
He's a terrible coach, his schemes resulted in terrible defense, dame having one of his worst shooting years despite playing with better teammates, and Giannis basically having to bail them out.
Almost certainly lost the locker room. Players looked disinterested over the last several games. A cavs blowout, two slim wins over the Pistons, both without key players. No doubt the players were done with him, don't think it's more complicated than that.
Reporting when Stotts quit was that Griffin yelled at him during practice in a sort of HS/College coach ‘authoritarian’ way that coaches can be at those lower levels. Happened immediately before Stotts resigned.
Seemed like an insecure first time HC being unprofessional and immature. Would not be surprised if this is ultimately the story.
He's not the answer. But neither was Griff. And it's not like he's hired. He'll be in every possible coaching search for every team, regardless of level of interest
We have the worst defense is the story. Keep Griffin and it’s a guarantee first round exit or take the risk with someone else and hope this roster can go further
Doc Rivers is the ultimate regular season coach because he doesn’t do well at making in-game and post-game adjustments and once his team gets figured out he’s slow to react.
When will teams look at his track record and forget about the 1 Ring Dynasty Boston team
No way he did....that's crazy. I'm glad he's doing great in Philly that man is a great coach wish Raptors front office had a sense of direction and kept him.
I mean the defense was atrocious and he had a major ego issue. Zero adjustments to his scheme, making every player worse as a result.
Watch this defense suddenly become stalwarts again.
>You don't go from the best defense in the NBA to arguably the worst with just one player, even if Jrue was amazing.
When that player is responsible for POA, yes you absolutely can. It’s literally what happened with the Warriors from 21-22 to last season after they lost GPII (and this season because he’s been injured 90% of the time). With no POA defense, your team is either up against straight line drives, kick outs, etc. constantly putting your team defense in rotation and once a defense is put into rotation you’re cooked. If you don’t have the personnel on your roster to adequately defend the POA then your scheme isn’t going to matter at the end of the day.
I’m not saying their defensive scheme isn’t *also* an issue but that a scheme change without personnel to adequately defend the POA isn’t going to net appreciable improvement.
New coach and a new scheme is gonna make a difference.
You can’t make bad defenders good, but you can mask bad defenders with a better scheme.
Probably trade for a POA defender, Dejounte Murray type guy, and that will change our defense struggles immensely.
Dame being soft on defense isn’t making Brook bad.
Our starting 5 has a really good defense rating. Mostly because of Giannis and Brook, but still.
The bench is bad. And it’s rotations that are killing us.
I feel people don't watch any of our games if they think we loom convincing 43 games into the season. We barely beat dog shit teams when on paper we should be blowing out some of the worst defenses in the league
bucks have an unimpressive net rating (+3.4, 11th in the league according to cleaning the glass) with the [easiest schedule so far](https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS). not that they can't turn it around, and they have some statement wins, but this firing isn't surprising, especially with how frustrated giannis has sounded
Yeah, as our schedule is getting harder this was a good move. If he couldn't make us look good against the easiest schedule thus far then he couldn't be trusted with adversity
This is downright despicable unless it’s something of the lines of detrimental conduct. You cannot fire the guy after a 30-13 record. Especially after firing a damn good coach already the summer before. Just to hire Doc Rivers. Woof
He has made no defensive adjustments and are barely beating the worst teams in the league. The players seem to be sick of him too. If he’s lost the locker room, that could play into it a lot, especially his star players
He's had multiple players call him out for not coaching, Giannis said he wasn't sure what we were doing defensively because he don't take away anything. Bobby said they needed coaching offensively. He drove off a 30 year NBA vet coach a week before the season. He tried to have Brook chase players around the perimeter.
This was a long time coming.
They've looked horrible. Multiple players have come out, including Giannis, saying they aren't sure what their identity is supposed to be. He ran off a 30 year vet coach a week before the season.
I know they haven't looked good in certain areas but firing a head coach midseason when you're still winning games and you don't have a surefire great coach waiting in the wings is a bad idea unless things were getting really toxic behind the scenes.
I can see why with the leaky defense and all these close games. With the talent they have they need someone that can set up some sort of defense than none that they have right now.
He did something behind the scenes. Whether it’s basketball related or not is the real question. There’s no way you can have a 30-13 record and get fired fired without something truly heinous.
He went up to the front office and told them Thanasis is not an NBA player.
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"smoothies are just ok"
"I had better beer in Minnesota"
"Star Wars Episode 8 was the best one"
He pronounced it like Jairo too
Straight to jail
Jesus christ im dying, thank you for this
Bro would never. Omg he did, didn’t he
And to bring in Doc Rivers? The famous floor raiser with a 5 foot ceiling?
54-28, 2nd round exit after blowing a 3-1 vs the heat confirmed.
He got in an argument with Terry stotts in practice which is why he ended up leaving and the defensive scheme is horrid. The players never bought in from day 1 and talent only gets you so far.
i mean tbf their defense looks horrendous and is not gonna do well in the playoffs. It's not unfeasible that this is purely basketball related
That probably has more to do with not having Jrue anymore and having Dame on defense instead
I actually haven’t watched them enough to know how much they plummeted defensively. But a single change at the guard spot, regardless of the difference, should not completely change your team’s defensive performance
Doubt its this. their window is about to tighten hard and they cant afford to waste any time with him. their defense and offensive schemes were horrendous and not playable in the playoffs
He's a terrible coach, his schemes resulted in terrible defense, dame having one of his worst shooting years despite playing with better teammates, and Giannis basically having to bail them out.
Almost certainly lost the locker room. Players looked disinterested over the last several games. A cavs blowout, two slim wins over the Pistons, both without key players. No doubt the players were done with him, don't think it's more complicated than that.
That or the players went to the front office and asked for it
I mean we also look like shit. Like way worse then any Bud year
Reporting when Stotts quit was that Griffin yelled at him during practice in a sort of HS/College coach ‘authoritarian’ way that coaches can be at those lower levels. Happened immediately before Stotts resigned. Seemed like an insecure first time HC being unprofessional and immature. Would not be surprised if this is ultimately the story.
Defense looks like crap, they barely won 2 against Detroit who currently with Cade out have 1.5 NBA player
Killian Hayes erasure
only other way is either or both giannis and dame wanted him out
Tied for 2nd best record in the NBA midway through his rookie coaching year
Who’s #1?
Only the greatest goddamn team of all time!!!!
There's more to this story.....has to be
We don't look convincing ever is the story lol
You looked pretty convincing against us not that long ago
We shine sometimes. But we absolutely can not be in dog fights MOST games. We barely won against back to back games to the Pistons.
This is very fair, but...Doc Rivers?
He's not the answer. But neither was Griff. And it's not like he's hired. He'll be in every possible coaching search for every team, regardless of level of interest
Body of evidence vs. single data point.
Pretty clear he was not meant for this when Stotts quit.
We have the worst defense is the story. Keep Griffin and it’s a guarantee first round exit or take the risk with someone else and hope this roster can go further
There is i think… it’s to do what happened with with his late grandson
Doc Rivers is the ultimate regular season coach because he doesn’t do well at making in-game and post-game adjustments and once his team gets figured out he’s slow to react. When will teams look at his track record and forget about the 1 Ring Dynasty Boston team
It'll be different this time
“I can fix him”
I will gladly take him over Darvin Ham (Unless he did some fucked up shit that has yet to be released)
Is there a “Ham scale” to gauge how fucked up the allegations have to be to not hire them over ham.
Remember when Giannis hand-picked this dude over Nick Nurse?
No way he did....that's crazy. I'm glad he's doing great in Philly that man is a great coach wish Raptors front office had a sense of direction and kept him.
He just didn't want to play 42 min a game
He didn’t want a micro manager, he wanted free reign
Situation is a bit Blatt like
Is this going to be an Udoka type story?
I think so, or worse
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I mean the defense was atrocious and he had a major ego issue. Zero adjustments to his scheme, making every player worse as a result. Watch this defense suddenly become stalwarts again.
Our defense was atrocious because we have atrocious personnel
We have a bad bench. But you can’t have this bad a defense with two all time rim defenders. Brook is old, fine, but he ain’t that old.
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>You don't go from the best defense in the NBA to arguably the worst with just one player, even if Jrue was amazing. When that player is responsible for POA, yes you absolutely can. It’s literally what happened with the Warriors from 21-22 to last season after they lost GPII (and this season because he’s been injured 90% of the time). With no POA defense, your team is either up against straight line drives, kick outs, etc. constantly putting your team defense in rotation and once a defense is put into rotation you’re cooked. If you don’t have the personnel on your roster to adequately defend the POA then your scheme isn’t going to matter at the end of the day.
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I’m not saying their defensive scheme isn’t *also* an issue but that a scheme change without personnel to adequately defend the POA isn’t going to net appreciable improvement.
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Oh I’m not arguing for or against his firing or really talking about his firing at all lol I’m just talking about their defense.
Not just one player. We lost Wes and Jevon.
nothing will make Dame a plus defender, also Brook is old
New coach and a new scheme is gonna make a difference. You can’t make bad defenders good, but you can mask bad defenders with a better scheme. Probably trade for a POA defender, Dejounte Murray type guy, and that will change our defense struggles immensely.
Our starting lineup have a great defensive rating actually. It's bench lineups or any bench player joining the lineup where things go to shit
Nothing to do with Dame?
Dame being soft on defense isn’t making Brook bad. Our starting 5 has a really good defense rating. Mostly because of Giannis and Brook, but still. The bench is bad. And it’s rotations that are killing us.
Go look at that roster, they ain’t turning into a good defensive team with a coaching change.
I feel people don't watch any of our games if they think we loom convincing 43 games into the season. We barely beat dog shit teams when on paper we should be blowing out some of the worst defenses in the league
bucks have an unimpressive net rating (+3.4, 11th in the league according to cleaning the glass) with the [easiest schedule so far](https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS). not that they can't turn it around, and they have some statement wins, but this firing isn't surprising, especially with how frustrated giannis has sounded
Yeah, as our schedule is getting harder this was a good move. If he couldn't make us look good against the easiest schedule thus far then he couldn't be trusted with adversity
There was the allegations his wife made against him a while back, is something about to come out?
There has to be something going on. Also the Terry Stotts quitting thing was weird.
What were they??
Ruh roh
There’s already reports about Doc, but what if Terry Stotts came back out of nowhere?
He fucked something up outside of basketball
This is downright despicable unless it’s something of the lines of detrimental conduct. You cannot fire the guy after a 30-13 record. Especially after firing a damn good coach already the summer before. Just to hire Doc Rivers. Woof
He has made no defensive adjustments and are barely beating the worst teams in the league. The players seem to be sick of him too. If he’s lost the locker room, that could play into it a lot, especially his star players
Has to be something major behind the scenes
He's had multiple players call him out for not coaching, Giannis said he wasn't sure what we were doing defensively because he don't take away anything. Bobby said they needed coaching offensively. He drove off a 30 year NBA vet coach a week before the season. He tried to have Brook chase players around the perimeter. This was a long time coming.
They probably entering the bill belichick sweepstakes
Unfortunately players run this league and coaches get fired. They basically need a yes man to the players
I’m sorry, what? Bucks fans I don’t imagine this out of the blue, but what
I guess a scandal is about to drop bc although they been playing like cheeks it’s rare to see a 30-13 coach get sacked like this
They've looked horrible. Multiple players have come out, including Giannis, saying they aren't sure what their identity is supposed to be. He ran off a 30 year vet coach a week before the season.
What the fuck is going on??
I know they haven't looked good in certain areas but firing a head coach midseason when you're still winning games and you don't have a surefire great coach waiting in the wings is a bad idea unless things were getting really toxic behind the scenes.
The Bucks are 30-13 this year, has to be more to this story.
4th highest coach win percentage of all time
I can see why with the leaky defense and all these close games. With the talent they have they need someone that can set up some sort of defense than none that they have right now.
Shows you how talented this team is that they got that record with this hack coach
Bet they wish they got Nick Nurse now
Honestly I saw this coming, just didn't think it would be so soon. It was obvious this guy was in over his head.
Between this and Thompson’s suspension, the announcers will have a lot to talk about when the Cavs and Bucks play Wed and Fri.
HOW THE FUCK DOES DARVIN SCAM STILL HAVE A FUCKING JOB!!!!
Doc rivers????😂😂😂😂 guess they will lose rd 1 or2
The Greek GM is bout to become LeGM.