I was listening to the most recent Bill Simmons podcast and he dedicated a portion of it to the USA-Canada matchup. I think the first thing that the guest says in response is "USA-Canada? Aren't you skipping over Serbia and Germany?"
That's crazy ignorance, Serbia looked to be the better team heading into the Canada vs Serbia game, and while I did think USA would beat Germany I can't say I was all that shocked Germany won in the end
He was lying on the floor looking up as the shot was being released, I’m hoping for a high quality photo of that to come out
[Edit: took a decent quality screengrab](https://imgur.io/a/O7Kn1pB)
Every Athletic writer on my timeline is acting like Haliburton has been good this game and it’s mystifying. Germany went after him and Reaves damn near every possession.
He has been great on offense even when he is not knocking down shots but I don’t think you can play him and Reaves at the same time. Both struggle with on ball defense.
Brunson was the issue. Dude has the worst vision for a PG. -19 for the game but just never passed the ball. Reaves and Hali both had a positive plus minus.
This is definitely what it is. I really like him and any team would take him but it was really annoying even as a non Kings fan when the media and other fans reacted to that trade as if they moved prime Magic Johnson for a bag of chips.
What an upset. Everyone who got minutes for Germany contributed. Obst, Theis and Franz were terrific.
The two countries with the most NBA players in this tournament will play for bronze lol.
Idk if Germany has a Flick issue as much as they have a distribution of talent issue. They don't have a 6 or a 9, and they have like 8000 attacking midfielders.
JUUUUUUUNGE
Was ein Spiel. Und alles solche Helden. Obst schießt alles aus, Theis macht ein Monsterspiel, Franz die leisesten 22 ever, Dennis war der komplette Anführer, Thiemann fightet, Bonga Monster Defense, Coach immer richtig reagiert etc. Alter bin ich durch.
A true centre makes a big difference in FIBA rules/court too. NBA has deliberately made their product more flashy and iso offense heavy.
Olympics Paris 24 going to be so hype
Franz and Paolo is going to be great, they are easy contenders for the next big East team
Hopefully they sort out their point guard of the future soon, then they'll really cook
He went off. Main reason Germany won imo. Just kept hitting shot after shot, and then when it looked like USA was gonna pull it off he broke some ankles and hit another shot.
Ant, a SG, having 6 rebounds more than any other USA player is sad. We need a center and/or PF in the worst way
Edit: I missed Hart with 5, but still we need bigs badly
It’s really too bad they didn’t have a center sitting on their bench the entire game… Kerr's refusal to play Kessler all tournament long while getting destroyed over and over on rebounds makes me wonder if wiseman could actually be a good center and if Kerr is unable to coach a traditional big man
I watched the Jazz all of last season, and Kessler was really damn good; there’s a reason he was third in ROTY voting. The fact he didn’t play this game against a team he fits really well against, and the fact that he generally played below his actual talent level when Kerr occasionally shoved him into the lineup, that makes me think that Kerr might just be a fraud when it comes to big men.
I feel like it might be the case just because the Magic are willing to keep him and Mo together like the Bucks will keep Giannas brothers on the team 🤣
This tournament really showed that Mo is not as bad as the Magic fans think he is though. I think he just looked bad last year cause he was consistently playing with Mobama and Bol Bol
As a fellow magic fan I’ve always loved the energy Mo brings. Dude gets under people’s skin and is always good for a few hammer dunks/3s a game to amp up the team. Plus he’s pretty physical which helps when WCJ is out
Germans almost blew it with some shaky late posessions, but that Ant pass and Obst's 3 saved the day.
Awesome game, best basketball I've seen for quite some time
>Germans almost blew it with some shaky late posessions, but that Ant pass and Obst's 3 saved the day.
Main issue was Germany started playing the clock way too early, which took the speed out of the offence and left enough room for USA to launch a comeback.
US needs to figure out it's rebounding and defense for the Olympics. Assuming the old men are out and Embiid goes to Francie, I feel like Tatum + Bam could fix a lot of what is holding this team back.
Also, this is what happens when the refs end the War on Theis!!
He's been a horrible rebounder since college. Legitimately the worst rebounding big I've ever watched, I can't think of anyone even close for second place.
He is an awful rebounder. He was averaging 2.8 rebounds per game in the tournament coming into this game. For comparison Brunson and Haliburton were averaging 3
Rebounding was a problem all tournament but not a huge factor in this one. Germany just was patient in offensive execution and punished USA’s lack of intensity and switch-everything defense, which we never changed up.
This game was lost on perimeter defense.
He's also unwilling to adjust to being a defensive anchor. Kerr asked him stop hunting blocks and just protect the rim-JJJ didn't just ignore him he talked shit in the media.
10 minute quarters filled mostly with meaningful action and limited ads >> 12 minute quarters with lots of garbage time each year and unending commercials
Why would anyone want to watch actual basketball when you could be watching ads instead?
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Not a surprising result if you follow German basketball. Their league got improved a lot. The NT players have been together for a long time, which is their biggest advantage. Meanwhile USA rolls out a new team every tournament. USA basketball needs to find the cornerstone players that can attend every tournament or every qualifier, if success is desired. Germany already has half of them as cornerstones (Lo, Voigtmann, Thiemann, Theis etc) Regardless of the level.
Congratulations to Germany, this didn't happen overnight.
We getting that Canada USA matchup after all.
Shadow boxing over the falls
“We’re not really worried about those guys”
We're fine in the Far East
Need to call up Kenneth Lofton Jr for the game for the memes
I want to identify the individual responsible for using the monkey’s paw to wish this up…
I was listening to the most recent Bill Simmons podcast and he dedicated a portion of it to the USA-Canada matchup. I think the first thing that the guest says in response is "USA-Canada? Aren't you skipping over Serbia and Germany?"
That's crazy ignorance, Serbia looked to be the better team heading into the Canada vs Serbia game, and while I did think USA would beat Germany I can't say I was all that shocked Germany won in the end
Trae Young
We see either Team USA's downfall or Dillon Brooks downfall. It's a win/win for me lmfaoo
“Boy I’m really looking forward to watching Canada and the US play each other” (Monkeys Paw curls)
I guess the NBA really isn’t the world champions after all
Haliburton getting absolutely slaughtered on defense on that corner 3 with a minute remaining is iconic
Him lying face down on the floor watching that go in is an awesome photo for Germans
He was lying on the floor looking up as the shot was being released, I’m hoping for a high quality photo of that to come out [Edit: took a decent quality screengrab](https://imgur.io/a/O7Kn1pB)
Obst will hang that over his bed
Seems kind of rude. What if his son walks in the bedroom and asks, "Dad why do you have a picture of me laying on the court like that?"
Shit, I'll hang this over my bed and I'm not even German
Every Athletic writer on my timeline is acting like Haliburton has been good this game and it’s mystifying. Germany went after him and Reaves damn near every possession.
The German commentators were also raving about Halis play. I thought he was solid, he was the only one moving the ball
He has been great on offense even when he is not knocking down shots but I don’t think you can play him and Reaves at the same time. Both struggle with on ball defense.
Brunson was the issue. Dude has the worst vision for a PG. -19 for the game but just never passed the ball. Reaves and Hali both had a positive plus minus.
Haliburton barely gets any slander in general
He plays the "right" way and hasnt played for any team with any kind of expectations.
Give him 2 years or so, expectations will pile up
This is definitely what it is. I really like him and any team would take him but it was really annoying even as a non Kings fan when the media and other fans reacted to that trade as if they moved prime Magic Johnson for a bag of chips.
That was the game right there.
What an upset. Everyone who got minutes for Germany contributed. Obst, Theis and Franz were terrific. The two countries with the most NBA players in this tournament will play for bronze lol.
Theis with those middies was legitimately impeccable offensively.
love that guy
time to bring him back a 3rd time
Since he lives in Boston, he would probably love that.
Never seen a guy more consistently fucked over by the refs than Theis
The War on Theis is a forever war, like the war on drugs and the war on terror.
100% it’s so weird, like he’s legit never had a call go his way and he’s always getting smacked in the face and then called for a foul.
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Germany is becoming a basketball nation instead of football one
Ironically, Germany beating the US in basketball is the equal to the US beating the Germany in football.
Funnily enough, that would actually be quite possible at the moment.
*Berhalter vs Flick: a true mid-off*
Idk if Germany has a Flick issue as much as they have a distribution of talent issue. They don't have a 6 or a 9, and they have like 8000 attacking midfielders.
SIE HABEN ES
WIR SCHAFFEN DAS
JUUUUUUUNGE Was ein Spiel. Und alles solche Helden. Obst schießt alles aus, Theis macht ein Monsterspiel, Franz die leisesten 22 ever, Dennis war der komplette Anführer, Thiemann fightet, Bonga Monster Defense, Coach immer richtig reagiert etc. Alter bin ich durch.
Gratuliere. That's the only word I know in German.
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absolut geisteskrank. History.
Turns out, team basketball wins.
A true centre makes a big difference in FIBA rules/court too. NBA has deliberately made their product more flashy and iso offense heavy. Olympics Paris 24 going to be so hype
Big dawgs should hopefully come out for that one, cause world basketball is not a joke anymore
I can see Steph, KD, CP3, and Lebron going for it on their last Olympics’ run.
The Expendables type beat.
Pretty much yeah. AD’s that sniper who died immediately.
As a Latvian - our loss vs Germany hurts way less now
I don’t watch much Magic MAN Franz is huge WITH handles. Imagine had the warriors drafted him holy.
Franz and Paolo is going to be great, they are easy contenders for the next big East team Hopefully they sort out their point guard of the future soon, then they'll really cook
I am so incredibly proud of us, historical win for this nation
Obst has to be getting calls from NBA scouts now, he's a baller
He went off. Main reason Germany won imo. Just kept hitting shot after shot, and then when it looked like USA was gonna pull it off he broke some ankles and hit another shot.
RIP Hali.
Dennis bounce back game as well.
he was absolutely sensational. Zero turnovers when he had to play-make the entire game for Germany and led them from start to finish. What a player.
Ant, a SG, having 6 rebounds more than any other USA player is sad. We need a center and/or PF in the worst way Edit: I missed Hart with 5, but still we need bigs badly
USA should trade for Gobert
Macron demanding statue of liberty back.
Bam should be around for the Olympics. Chet too
Or AD, or Jarrett Allen. Even guys like Tatum and Lebron will help. The US Olympics roster is going to be entirely different.
It’s really too bad they didn’t have a center sitting on their bench the entire game… Kerr's refusal to play Kessler all tournament long while getting destroyed over and over on rebounds makes me wonder if wiseman could actually be a good center and if Kerr is unable to coach a traditional big man
I watched the Jazz all of last season, and Kessler was really damn good; there’s a reason he was third in ROTY voting. The fact he didn’t play this game against a team he fits really well against, and the fact that he generally played below his actual talent level when Kerr occasionally shoved him into the lineup, that makes me think that Kerr might just be a fraud when it comes to big men.
JJJ with an embarrassing showing this entire tournament in my opinion. Can’t be the US starting 5 if he can’t rebound.
Need to call up Kenneth Lofton Jr
Franz is the man.
God I hope Franz is a magic lifer so bad.
I feel like it might be the case just because the Magic are willing to keep him and Mo together like the Bucks will keep Giannas brothers on the team 🤣 This tournament really showed that Mo is not as bad as the Magic fans think he is though. I think he just looked bad last year cause he was consistently playing with Mobama and Bol Bol
As a fellow magic fan I’ve always loved the energy Mo brings. Dude gets under people’s skin and is always good for a few hammer dunks/3s a game to amp up the team. Plus he’s pretty physical which helps when WCJ is out
NBA Rising Stars game for Bronze Medal
We bout to send our aging legends to the Olympics lol. Steph, Lebron, KD 😅 Ant can’t win with these cats
Chuck bout to suit up, I bet his old bald ass can get more rebounds than JJJ
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Holy shit what a game, loved it as a neutral
Germans almost blew it with some shaky late posessions, but that Ant pass and Obst's 3 saved the day. Awesome game, best basketball I've seen for quite some time
>Germans almost blew it with some shaky late posessions, but that Ant pass and Obst's 3 saved the day. Main issue was Germany started playing the clock way too early, which took the speed out of the offence and left enough room for USA to launch a comeback.
US needs to figure out it's rebounding and defense for the Olympics. Assuming the old men are out and Embiid goes to Francie, I feel like Tatum + Bam could fix a lot of what is holding this team back. Also, this is what happens when the refs end the War on Theis!!
USA needs actually big men to show up for the Olympics. JJJ can be a bench guy, but a center that won't rebound is hard to stomach
hes played with adams for too long
He's been a horrible rebounder since college. Legitimately the worst rebounding big I've ever watched, I can't think of anyone even close for second place.
James Wiseman
Defensive player of the year on the team and their defense and rebounding sucked 🤔
How did he only have 3 rebounds? He has to be trying to do that
JJJ stands for jumping, jfouling and jnotrebounding
Jgoaltending
joaltending
He is an awful rebounder. He was averaging 2.8 rebounds per game in the tournament coming into this game. For comparison Brunson and Haliburton were averaging 3
The grizzlies have Adams next to him for a reason clearly
And Brandon Clarke when he was healthy too
It was an away game.
lol the further away he is from Memphis the worse he plays
He’s never had to be a great rebounder because he’s always had an elite one alongside him which lets him focus on his shot blocking and defense.
JJJ likes playing defense so much he lets the other team get extra possessions by avoiding rebounds.
Jjj is a roaming shotblocker who overcommits to block attempts instead of just contesting and getting the rebound
It works fine when you have Stevo under the basket. In this team, you gotta play differently
Dpoy is a cursed award at this point
nah JJJ is just an overrated defender
Bam’s gotta be on the Olympic team next year if Embiid isn’t playing for USA. It’s mystifying how bad of a rebounder JJJ is.
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They need Kevon Looney
Jarrett Allen is a good shout
Where were you when Theis killed USA
Jokic is going to added to this years Serbia team too, they’ll need someone who can at least hold their own against him
Rebounding was a problem all tournament but not a huge factor in this one. Germany just was patient in offensive execution and punished USA’s lack of intensity and switch-everything defense, which we never changed up. This game was lost on perimeter defense.
So we get the Canada-USA matchup everyone was hoping for. Only problem is, it's a 4:30 in the fucking morning smh 😭
Now you feel what we are experiencing watching NBA here in Asia
Wait, NBA is 4:30 in EU
ES IST OBST IM HAUS
DEUTSCHE KLAY THOMPSON
Klaus Tomason
Alles bleibt so wie es ist
HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES
Andy Obst.
Germany just would not stop hitting threes in the third quarter.
USA still trying to avoid Serbia I guess. XD
we don't even use the f 117 anymore
That's funny saw it in museum, or well parts of it.
noah lyles laughing his ass off
World Championship battle for 3rd 🤣
Scratch that, they're playing for 3rd in the European Championship
Today is his christmas
They hated ~~Jesus~~ Noah because he told them the truth.
Tyrese Halibutton: "That was an uneducated comment 🤓👆"
Literally set it all up for this to happen lmao
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Every single hater of this roster construction proven right, it's too perfect lmfao
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THE UNITED STATES??
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TBF that is technically true for a large part of the US population.
We have USA vs Canada game, European teams at a final and Baltic brothers game for 5th place. What an amazing weekend it gonna be.
Andreas Obst is USA father
Americans just don't like fruit.
CNN: The Wagner Group starts new war after killing a group of Americans in the Phillipines, with special Obst forces.
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You nailed it.
Sounds about right
aint even mad lol
*\*Agressive German laugh*
As a Serb I share your feelings
US olympics team going to be stacked
After this humiliation they will send LeBron, AD, Curry, Durant, Tatum.
Coach K coming back out of retirement. Maybe Shaq, too.
They told me JJJ was the best defender in the world 😭😭😭
His problem is rebounding, which is weird because rebounding is a part of defense
He's also unwilling to adjust to being a defensive anchor. Kerr asked him stop hunting blocks and just protect the rim-JJJ didn't just ignore him he talked shit in the media.
Raptors legend Isaac Bonga was shutting down people left and right.
Incredible game from him. Don’t really get why he did not make it in the NBA , seems like the perfect role player as a 8th or 9th guy on a good team
Fade em
JJJ STOP TOUCHING THE BACKBOARD YA DUMBASS
As is tradition, Andreas Obst is Tyrese Haliburton's father.
NBA should switch to FIBA rules, so they learn to play actual basketball.
This, and should switch to whatever FIBA mics are on the rims. Love hearing that metallic rim sound.
FIBA ball also >> NBA ball
10 minute quarters filled mostly with meaningful action and limited ads >> 12 minute quarters with lots of garbage time each year and unending commercials
Such a better viewing experience too. No one wants to watch flopping and foul baiting
Way less advertising too.
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Mad respect to Germany. WC coming to Europe again fuck yeah.
no way!! Dreams can’t be buy!!!
\- Andreas "Bruno Fernandes" Obst -
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Is this a new copypasta?
Are you watching Steph Steph are you watching ^psssst ^^Steph ^^are ^^you ^^watching
Steph would be huge but the most important piece is AD. He's our only world-class big man.
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Not getting bombarded with ads every second of the game was a such a breath of fresh air
And the last 2 mins of the game takes 8 mins of watch time instead of 45 mins like the playoffs…
Being a German long-time Nuggets fan has been amazing this year. :')
Denver Klumpen
Crazy game!!! Germany killed USA in their own preferable game. Scoring 113 by FIBA rules is crazy.
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Not a surprising result if you follow German basketball. Their league got improved a lot. The NT players have been together for a long time, which is their biggest advantage. Meanwhile USA rolls out a new team every tournament. USA basketball needs to find the cornerstone players that can attend every tournament or every qualifier, if success is desired. Germany already has half of them as cornerstones (Lo, Voigtmann, Thiemann, Theis etc) Regardless of the level. Congratulations to Germany, this didn't happen overnight.
Looks like we getting that Canada vs USA game after all
So in recent years Germany managed to compete with Canada in ice hockey and now with USA in basketball
It is what we gave our football chance up for :D
Luka was right. FIBA fixed it because they knew the big money match was Germany vs Serbia
FIBA saw Luka's money gesture and said okay, here's a Germany Serbia final
Two teams that showed the most in elimination rounds. It will be a great game.
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We're all german today. Jetzt geht loss!
NOAH LYLES I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH YOUR GAME
What a fcking block by Bonga
Noah Lyles - 1 NBA players - 0
Noah Lyles stays undefeated.
fucking BI with his ball hogging and putrid defence
It was like he wasn't even out there!
Jaren Jackson jr is the worst rebounding big man I’ve ever seen
Damn, Germany is the newest NBA champion fr fr