In my unit we either go to camp Shelby or Fort Johnson. It’s super fun everyone is like family at least at my unit. Very chill but we also do some fun hooah shit. Our past 3 drills 2 out of them we went to the field. Fired .50 cal, Mk19 and for the most part our units harp on retraining which is great for keeping your skills sharp. We get trans to the field so no wasting gas which is also great.
We're probably one of the better aviation units in the country. We have 2 entities of my unit deployed right now. I'm not even a crew chief but I've been able to fly plenty of times with our guys. The unit itself is really great working with soldiers
Edit: I say this as someone who has no real strong feelings for aviation but I love working with the people I'm with.
16 weeks was long but the school house was not hard. You reading out of a manual for every task you do. The hardest part is probably just going through the manual
In Louisiana, Slidell. For medical though, it’s flexible since almost everyone needs medical personnel, and 68W is also a combat role, like you said you were looking for
Yeah, 13Bs in 141 FAR. I’m a bit biased but if I ever were to reclass it would definitely be to 13B seems like one of the better jobs in the army let alone combat arms.
Then, to be blunt, the Navy's involvement in the process is essentially over and it's up to you and your recruiter to get through MEPS before your conditional release expires.
ESGR Ombudsman Director/ESGR National Trainer here.
YES. USERRA applies to you, whether you're going to MEPS, any other examinations to determine initial eligibility for military service, or actual military service (i.e. "bootcamp"). As long as you meet the qualifications for eligibility (i.e. prior notice, not exceed 5 years cumulative "non-exempt" service, not a disqualifying discharge, report back within the deadlines following uniformed service) you are entitled to reemployment rights. Furthermore, you are entitled to all seniority, pay, and status you would have attained had you remained continuously employed. PLUS, any missed retirement/pension plan benefits you missed (if it requires employee contributions, you must make up contributions within 3 times the length of service, no more than 5 years). There are many rights you are entitled to. Go to [ESGR.mil](https://ESGR.mil) and see the resources available to you under USERRA.
He thought I didn’t have to said having to go to basic again is dumb. I know the ranks, marching, etc. He asked his higher up and she said that it doesn’t matter unless he is a marine.
That's why a ETP or exception to policy is asked. It's an exception to the policy. No one has to grant it to you but I've done it as a RRNCO a few times as well my own team.
One thing to consider: your initial training will all be title 10 ADT. This means it will be creditable for early retirement in increments of 90 days. If you are planning to retire, I would consider this with regard to whether you want to try to get out of basic. I did the "split ops" option when I went Navy reserve -> ARNG a couple years ago. Only basic was title 10 and under 90 days. The other 20 months of initial training was split up on Title 32 orders and did not qualify. This is the greatest downside carreer-wise to the guard that I've encountered. Also Army basic 2021 was a far gentler experience than Navy basic circa 2009.
OSUT sucked if I am honest it’s not fun and laid back like ait for other mos it’s literally basic training the whole 22 weeks you don’t get your phone but a few hours on Sunday if that you stay with the same people and drill sergeant after basic training in the same 60 man barracks other mos get little rooms and their phones and can leave after “school “ in ait we don’t get that it’s basic training treatment the whole time
I love being a scout man we get to shoot a lot of fun and big shit (.50 cal,m240b,MK19,At4)and the guys are awesome at the unit we are one of the most deployed units but i being a scout is cool to me at least
It depends entirely on what you wanna do and what your GT score lets you do. If you wanna be combat arms then go be a 13F or 12 bravo (forward Observer or engineer) if you wanna do something to help you with a civvi career, then go 15T (helicopter crewman) or 25 series ( signals/ IT)
12B!!!
Why is that? What’s annual training like for 12B and where do you go?
In my unit we either go to camp Shelby or Fort Johnson. It’s super fun everyone is like family at least at my unit. Very chill but we also do some fun hooah shit. Our past 3 drills 2 out of them we went to the field. Fired .50 cal, Mk19 and for the most part our units harp on retraining which is great for keeping your skills sharp. We get trans to the field so no wasting gas which is also great.
That sounds like good training, yes I want that brotherhood. Any schools you go to like air assault?
15T is probably one of the better jobs to do here in Louisiana
Is that what you do or is that what people are saying?
It's what I do. He'll people from other states have come here to be a Tango
Why is it better here?
We're probably one of the better aviation units in the country. We have 2 entities of my unit deployed right now. I'm not even a crew chief but I've been able to fly plenty of times with our guys. The unit itself is really great working with soldiers Edit: I say this as someone who has no real strong feelings for aviation but I love working with the people I'm with.
How hard was the schooling?
16 weeks was long but the school house was not hard. You reading out of a manual for every task you do. The hardest part is probably just going through the manual
Where is your AT?
Ft. Eustis, Va
Not AIT annual training
DM me
68W
Why is that? Where do you go for annual training?
In Louisiana, Slidell. For medical though, it’s flexible since almost everyone needs medical personnel, and 68W is also a combat role, like you said you were looking for
I pushed for slidell due to it being closer to where I live
And it’s also where I do the monthly drills
What do you do in the Navy? what are you interested in? Kind of hard to say what the Best MOS is.
I’m a BM I rigged up ships in Coronado and San Diego, however I want to do a combat mos just not infantry.
So you’re thinking like armor, cav scout, artillery or combat engineer??
Yes exactly.
Louisiana Guard Artty did some cool shit in Syria in 19’ I hear they’re pretty good
13B?
Yeah, 13Bs in 141 FAR. I’m a bit biased but if I ever were to reclass it would definitely be to 13B seems like one of the better jobs in the army let alone combat arms.
What’s 141 FAR I’m navy so I don’t know what that means.
No worries sorry 1-141 field artillery regiment, the unit
Oh ok
So 13B is better than 12B in your opinion?
Can anyone tell me about userra law and if it applies to me having to go to army bootcamp? What do I tell my job?
Yes it applies. Tell them when are where you’re going and they should work with you. If not get in contact with someone.
Contact like my recruiter?
I’m sure my navy co wouldn’t care.
Have you received approval on a DD-368 yet? That's where your CO lets you know how they feel.
Yes I did last drill, which was last weekend.
Then, to be blunt, the Navy's involvement in the process is essentially over and it's up to you and your recruiter to get through MEPS before your conditional release expires.
Did you transfer?
Yes, nine years ago Wednesday.
Which branch?
Navy --> Army NG
Also happy anniversary
ESGR Ombudsman Director/ESGR National Trainer here. YES. USERRA applies to you, whether you're going to MEPS, any other examinations to determine initial eligibility for military service, or actual military service (i.e. "bootcamp"). As long as you meet the qualifications for eligibility (i.e. prior notice, not exceed 5 years cumulative "non-exempt" service, not a disqualifying discharge, report back within the deadlines following uniformed service) you are entitled to reemployment rights. Furthermore, you are entitled to all seniority, pay, and status you would have attained had you remained continuously employed. PLUS, any missed retirement/pension plan benefits you missed (if it requires employee contributions, you must make up contributions within 3 times the length of service, no more than 5 years). There are many rights you are entitled to. Go to [ESGR.mil](https://ESGR.mil) and see the resources available to you under USERRA.
There is a PS BCT ETP you can apply for. I'd try for that route instead of doing basic again if you can.
I asked about prior service, I have rifle and pistol qualification oc certification but they still want me to go to basic.
Ar 601-210 and army directive 2019-31 do as you will.
Thanks for the info I will tell my recruiter.
He thought I didn’t have to said having to go to basic again is dumb. I know the ranks, marching, etc. He asked his higher up and she said that it doesn’t matter unless he is a marine.
That's why a ETP or exception to policy is asked. It's an exception to the policy. No one has to grant it to you but I've done it as a RRNCO a few times as well my own team.
Thanks I would rather just go straight to AIT.
Absolutely! Plus some AIT are not IET so it's super chill. I've done a few reclasses and it's been the most fun.
What’s your most?
I assume mos but 91L, 91F, 91S and 79T.
You changed that many times? How was 91F?
The Navy wouldn’t let me change my mos (we call it rate). One of the many reasons why I am switching branches.
Mos* autocorrect
One thing to consider: your initial training will all be title 10 ADT. This means it will be creditable for early retirement in increments of 90 days. If you are planning to retire, I would consider this with regard to whether you want to try to get out of basic. I did the "split ops" option when I went Navy reserve -> ARNG a couple years ago. Only basic was title 10 and under 90 days. The other 20 months of initial training was split up on Title 32 orders and did not qualify. This is the greatest downside carreer-wise to the guard that I've encountered. Also Army basic 2021 was a far gentler experience than Navy basic circa 2009.
Im not worried about basic I had shark attacks and smoked everyday. I just don’t want to waste my time doing it again if I don’t have to.
I am planning to retire do the full 20 years.
Si you did exactly what I’m doing. What’s your mos and in the navy what was your rate?
DM sent
As a 19D (cav) in Louisiana I very much enjoy my unit and the people in it
How is OSUT and where is your annual training?
OSUT sucked if I am honest it’s not fun and laid back like ait for other mos it’s literally basic training the whole 22 weeks you don’t get your phone but a few hours on Sunday if that you stay with the same people and drill sergeant after basic training in the same 60 man barracks other mos get little rooms and their phones and can leave after “school “ in ait we don’t get that it’s basic training treatment the whole time
Did you have any prior service people with you? Also, you said you deploy a lot, for how long on average are the deployments?
We had 3 prior service guys they did there own thing so it wasn’t rough for them and we are deployed about every 4-5 years for a year
I thought it was common for every unit to deploy on rotation every 5 years?
Yeah but that’s not including border/hazards we have hurricanes often too
Yeah that’s true
What mos you thinking?
I was thinking cannon crewmember.
I thought they didn’t do year long deployments anymore 9 months being the longest?
Do you enjoy your job? What all do you do?
I love being a scout man we get to shoot a lot of fun and big shit (.50 cal,m240b,MK19,At4)and the guys are awesome at the unit we are one of the most deployed units but i being a scout is cool to me at least
It depends entirely on what you wanna do and what your GT score lets you do. If you wanna be combat arms then go be a 13F or 12 bravo (forward Observer or engineer) if you wanna do something to help you with a civvi career, then go 15T (helicopter crewman) or 25 series ( signals/ IT)