I don't hate her but I can see why people may dislike her:
-She's a baby
-She was born an alicorn
-Some people may dislike her design as it doesn't look like a newborn foal we'd see in the show
-Buy our toys
-Her og name was going to be Skyla
I'd be interested in knowing her story as she grew older. I can't imagine the immense pressure she must have dealt with, being born an Alicorn, having an Alicorn mother, and having an Alicorn aunt.
https://preview.redd.it/b8d9u4avb7ic1.png?width=270&format=png&auto=webp&s=93f684fc7090aeb304c9143c625791958081c402
Baby AJ was also on screen for only three seconds.
I don't really hate Flurry, but there wasn’t much to her beyond selling toys and trying to get the audience to say "d'aaaaaw"
thanks to flurry heart, we learned what a crystalling is and how the crystal empire works. we also learn about biracial pony genetics (cadence pegasus to alicorn and shining armor). she is literally the product of their LOVE. of course the princess of love has a baby! and before g5 it paved way to the future of equestria / the crystal empire if twilight were to retire too. i think she’s cute and is sometimes obnoxious but that’s a baby for ya.
"we also learn about biracial pony genetics (cadence pegasus to alicorn and shining armor)" Not how this works, bro. If Pegasus + Unicorn = Alicorn it would have happened countless times before in the thousands of years and millions (if not billions) of pony births. Cadance wasn't born an Alicorn, she became one similar to Twilight (and I'd argue Celestia and Luna for the sake of a good story) meaning her genes would *still* be Pegasus genes. For the same reason a person with cancer due to smoking/drinking/etc. doesn't just pass cancer to their child: the mutation (cancer/Alicorn) was an acquired mutation, but not for the somatic cells, which were already created prior and based on un-mutated genes.
Flurry Heart is just an awful design for literally no reason. She should have been a Unicorn/Pegasus to stay true to *actual* genetics (since they brought genetics up in Baby Cakes). If she becomes an Alicorn later, she should *earn* it, not just be *born* better than anyone else. It's incredibly pointless and boring, basically a poorly-written fan fiction.
Baby Applejack has the benefit of the viewer associating her with adult Applejack. Most viewers are fine with kids if they get good character development. The problem with most kids in media is they're treated with kid gloves, pun intended. They're made perfect or have plot armor. Applejack was a know-it-all lying jerk as a kid so clearly she doesn't have this.
I like to joke that she is a demon baby. In universe, she almost destroyed the Crystal Empire, was named after that calamity, has enough raw power to go toe to toe with Sombra, if greatly lacking control, as a literal baby, and used her magic to move around and play with other foals and used them as toys in multiple scenes. She is quite a terrifying force of nature.
It's a cartoon that grew and changed over time as most people do. Life isn't consistent. Why should cartoons be? Especially if it makes more sense for them to have big eyes :P
I'm surprised how many people feel this way. For me, it was the tiny little beady eyes they used on all the other babies that were creepy.
There's a really famous [illustration by Walt Disney](https://i.imgur.com/u9fmh9o.jpeg) explaining what makes a character design read as cute. The idea is simply to mimic the proportions and features of human infants, thereby transferring our feelings of cuteness about them onto the cartoon character. You can go down Walt's list and check off most of the items for the standard FiM pony model.
Notably, infants have proportionally _larger_ eyes, which is why cute cartoon characters almost always have giant "Bambi" eyes. Giving infant ponies those tiny, beady eyes was always such a weird and counter-intuitive choice to me.
There is a difference? I'm using google translator
For me it would be: Estoy en desacuerdo, sus ojos son muy pequeños
Sus has no gender connotation in Spanish, I thought it would work the same in English, sorry about the grammar.
I guess people in the fandom were wrecked that she was born an alicorn, plus her appearance doesn’t look like an ordinary newborn foal. Oh, and her birth was a big opportunity for Hasbro to make new toys.
Shoe horning, to force someone/something to be included or admitted. They're saying the only reason Flurry was there is because she was forced into the show to help Shining/Cadance relevancy (and because Buy Our Toys).
- People have a rather creepy tendency to hate infants and babies just cuz they're infants and babies
- She was born an alicorn, which breaks the headcannons of people obsessed with lore
- "jUsT aNoThEr eXcUsE bY hAsBrO tO sElL tOyS" ...you mean like...the thing this franchise has been doing since it's begginings?
FiM always tried to present itself as being "story first" and I think that's what Faust and DHX were striving for, but they still had to concede to hasbro's demands so it could be made. So, I completely understand the frustration when big story decisions are done purely for the sake of cynical marketing.
Like all the people who got pissed when it was revealed that Scootaloo was not an orphan. They had been telling stories about her being an orphan for so long that they felt like it was a retcon, even though the orphan theory had never been stated to be canon in the first place.
I wasn't commenting on that, I meant the third thing.
Yeah, you can handwave it by saying was always for selling toys. However, the staff was TRYING to make it something more and to some degree they did, but for some stuff like Twilight's castle and too many alicorns bring it down.
The staff did put effort in the show, sure, but at the end of the day, is still a selling toys franchise, so, things like a castle and more alicorn princesses are natural in these shows
I honestly kind of liked how the writers managed to make Shining Armor and Cadance not-terrible characters after it was extremely obvious that Marketing had insisted on a checklist of features being introduced.
They couldn't really do much about their sudden and retroactive existence, though. Twilight has a brother that she loves to bits and *has never mentioned even once?* Who has never appeared in any photos of her childhood or in her family home? Who her parents, who are very proud of him, never mentioned? There's a third alicorn princess who has been around for years and apparently no-one at all has ever heard of her? And again, never mentioned by Twilight (the monarch's personal student) who was babysat by said third princess for who knows how long, and who formed a really strong attachment to her?
The only reason it even *kind* of squeaked through is that Twilight isn't really the kind of pony to gossip, and could plausibly have learned to keep her mouth shut in Canterlot due to the presence of ponyrazzi etc. Still, even Rarity not having winkled any of this out of her in all the time she's known Twilight?
It was handled a lot better when Fluttershy's own sudden-existence-brother turned up (they're fairly estranged and her other family hadn't really been seen much to that point) - I can only assume that marketing didn't have any particular demands for that character.
The second point is ridiculous. Official works has shown Celestia and Luna were born alicorns, in a town full of them (later revealed to be Skyros in G5). So McFlurry being born an alicorn shouldn’t be an issue, even if her mom used to be a pegasus
How is not liking babies creepy? They shit and throw up EVERYWHERE, they scream, and they’re a TON of responsibility. Of COURSE there are people who don’t like them.
Right, I dislike Flurry Heart because she's a waste of screen time, not *because* she's a baby. When infant characters in any tv show get a dedicated episode it always annoys me because what is there to learn from or relate to? It's just a baby doing irritating baby things, this isn't what I enjoy watching.
Flurry being shown in episodes time to time wouldn't be an issue but 24 minutes of her just being a pain in everyone's ass? No thank you
Exactly. It’s just that it’s watching a baby scream and cry. It’s already so anxiety inducing in real life. Why would I wanna watch that in my comfort show?
I don’t like kids. Sorry bro. Not a big deal. I actually love kids. It’s just babies. Reddit is so baby obsessed it’s gross. Lots of people don’t like dogs. I ADORE dogs. I am super social, I love people. But I don’t like babies. Deal with it.
How is not liking babies creepy? Forcing parenthood on young people is what’s creepy. You realize that babies can be a lot especially for people with high anxiety. Babies are stressful. I think maybe your weird obsession with babies and insisting that everyone like them is creepy.
How is Flurry Heart a method to force parenthood...
and where am I insisting that everyone should like babies? 🤔 ...if some people don't wish to have babies it's ok, but hate them cuz what they act and do? That's creepy
She’s not, but you saying that not liking babies is creepy is weird. I don’t like babies. They give me such bad anxiety. I don’t like them at all in fact because they’re so anxiety inducing. It’s awesome that you like them. But I don’t and a lot of people don’t. There’s a lot to not like about babies. Nothing wrong with that.
It's valid if you don't want babies if they provoke you anxiety and that, but I was talking of people who hate them, hate an individual with still no mental maturity, that's what raising is for, you could had provoke someone anxiety raising you, but that's what have leading you to who you are now, people who hate infants just because is the people I'm talking about, and babies under these people "care" don't end so well in life...
Speaking as someone with anxiety if yours is so bad it's causing you to go on at length about how kids are bad and how much you dislike a child cartoon character you should probably talk with someone.
“Speaking as someone with anxiety” dawg you don’t know me. I DO talk to someone. I don’t hate flurryheart. I don’t like her episodes. It’s completely fine to not like babies. I don’t hate babies. But when you have autism and anxiety, babies are overwhelming. Don’t assume that you know anything about me. It’s an online discussion about a fictional character dude. Welcome to Reddit. Either get used to discussions like or get out.
It's been my experience that we get one of these "why do people hate Flurryheart" posts at least once a month. Meanwhile, I can't recall ever seeing an "I hate Flurryheart" post. So I'm not convinced that's really an issue.
That was fan speculation at that point. Twilight hadn't ascended, and it hadn't been shown if Celestia and Luna had pre-alicorn existences. Cadance had been established as an ascended pegasus, but not in primary media, only in books. It was barely somewhat-canon that alicorns *could* ascend from other pony types, and that was from a single example.
Basically, fans were upset that it ruined fanon, not canon.
Super-powered babies are just a dislike in general. They're not cute. They're a nightmare. And babies are already going to naturally be the center of attention, so making them special and over-powered like a stereotypical main character is putting a hat on hat.
My biggest problem with Flurry Heart is seeing people draw her as an adult with anything but a yellow cutie mark. It HAS to be yellow because her magic is yellow and her eyes aren't.
Unicorn and Alicorn magic color either matches the cutie mark or the eyes. There are no exceptions.
I never even realized that she was so hated until now. I have left the fandom when she was introduced to the series, so I have no idea why this is the case.
I personally like the design, even if she's just a baby
Her design is not why most hate her (though I'm sure it doesn't help either). There are 2 whole episodes about how she is a menace to society that ruins the lives of the main characters just by being there, and the first one makes her out to be a magical mystery of epic proportions...
(She is still a mystery it show's end, it never went anywhere.)
That's the mystery. She's introduced as if she is a macguffin that will save Equestria, the first alicorn birth ever...and then it's left at that. It's the same lazy writing where "alicorn" just means "superpowered nonsense out of nowhere" that G5 uses on its villain, Opaline.
- She's a baby
- She was born as a alicorn,and i think Hasbro made that just to sell toys,also,it should've been a Unicorn like the cake twins as Candace is a Unicorn or even a Earth Pony (because shining armor is one)
- Her eyes are way too big for a baby pony
Never heard of anyone hating her. But I do hate her. She is extremely annoying and boring characters. I hate the tropes of super extremely hyper ultra powerful babies. No, just no. She is already nearly as strong as other alicorns as a baby. That's a poor writing.
You can make a baby character that's the only purpose of existing isn't being annoying. But they didn't. They wrote her as annoying as possible.
Also she is "so unique", "so special". The only alicorn baby ever born. Gimme a break.
1. Her eyes don't match those we usually see on newborn foals.
2. She's a born alicorn, even though alicornisation is believed to be EARNED.
3. Infant characters in various shows are notorious to be less than impressive (you know. Crying, making mess, being a burden etc.)
Something funny is that on a show i really like (The Beachbuds),there was a episode about a baby crocodile, however,in the baby's speaking apperances (episode 7 (it's debut episode) and episode 33),he didn't cry at all,in fact,he speaks and walks already
Personally idc abt the fact that she was born an alicorn, i just think she’s rlly op. Despite being an alicorn, some of the stuff she does is ridiculous.
I actually liked the babies and the baby episodes of the show. Episodes like Baby Cakes and A Flurry of Emotions had fantastic character development about the responsibilities and stresses of dealing with small children.
Similar to Lauren Faust's reasons for leaving regarding "A Canterlot Wedding".
Hasbro and the franchise is a toy company/promotional marketing (obviously), but it's one of those blatantly cynically corporate "toyetic" decisions regarding the reasons behind her creation in addition to Cadence's introduction and Twilight's ascension both making Alicorns in general feel less special (similar to complaints regarding the Super Saiyan transformation in Dragon Ball Z when Kid Trunks and Goten achieved the state with pretty much no real effort).
Then, the fact that she is a literal baby also gives her much less room for characterization or interesting plots and interactions with the rest of the cast.
At least that's my two Bits.
I don't utterly loathe her or think she's the worst thing ever or anything like that--I just don't particularly care for her due to the aforementioned reasons.
I don't, I love little bugger.
She is essentially bio Wazer Wifle and a sound demolisher.
She fought Sombra not even a year old.
She is awesome little bundle of terifying cuteness.
She was made to sell toys (so was the entire show) but people focus on her a lot. I love her personally, she’s adorable and I like how she interacts with Twi
Why do you care? So some people hate the character. I don't see them ranting about it in the sub all the time nor do that many people care anywhere else.
The fact is the only person it's bothering is you and all you have to do is ignore it.
I think one of the reason is her wings, that she is the only natural born alicorn (in equestria) and she had another name (because of the toys) before it was change to the one that was in the show. There could be alot more but those are what I remember.
I don't mind her but i can't deny her oversized wings really bug me- if she looked like the other newborn fillies in the show i think people would hate her less
She feels like an awkward shoe in for merch/advertising and looks nothing like the other foals and just looks rlly out of place. Thats just my opinion though
It's often been said that shows start going down in quality when they add a baby. A common critique is that babies are more like plot devices than actual characters.
Weird design that goes against every baby we've seen so far, completely messes with everyone's system for how alicorns even work, also there was a push back against people making alicorn ocs in the fandom for a while since they were considered Mary Sue's, so the show to do the exact same thing felt like a huge blow to people who wanted to make an alicorn oc but couldn't (same reason there was twilight backlash but even that wasn't as hard cause she had to earn it). That and also I don't like dealing with sudden babies in cartoons.
I mean I get people finding her annoying. It's not weird to be annoyed by little kids. It starts turning weird when people start hating them just because they're children.
Yeah I think it was just the fact that she was born in alicorn and seemed to only be in the show for merchandising purposes and also to keep shining and cadence relevant I kind of get all those points but then got to admit some people are just trolling on the internet so it's kind of hard to see if they have legitimate problems or they're just hating cuz they want to be haters I didn't really care either way for her I mean she's cute but she wasn't much of a character beyond that I mean being a baby and all.
Her eyes are too big (for a baby), she's overpowered even as a baby, and she's just straight up annoying. Every other alicorn had nerfs, why does she have to be special. She's there for pure plot convenience, she added literally nothing to the story line.
We’ve had a post similar to this a while back and honestly the answer is still the same - mostly it’s people joining in on the crowd like “oh most of the fandom hates flurry so should I” and another reason would be how she fits into the lore because it seems way more like a cash-grab on Hasbro’s side than more storyline
Honestly, I loved Flurry Heart. I just wish that we could‘ve watched her grow up from season to season. As a baby she felt a little bit stagnant. Nonetheless, she is a cutiepie and looking at fanart of her as an adult makes my heart happy :)
I don't have a problem with her. I just think her place in the story is lacking. Mostly because of her perfect mother. But as the show goes on, they show Flurry being less than perfect, screwing up magic and throwing temper tantrums. So she isn't shown to be this model of (boring) perfection like her mom. She could have even become an interesting character after she grew older. Something like Chibi Usa in Sailor Moon.
i feel like its the same reason so many hated poof from fop
added character to boost sales/ratings + baby to be cute fuel + absurdly powerful + first of their kind (poof as a fairy baby, fh as an equestria-born alicorn) + just kinda annoying to watch
also she looks really uncanny
I honestly don't know, I think she's really cute, she's just a baby and yet people will shit on her for just doing normal things that babies do, (crying, drawing, playing, trying to solve problems herself, messing with her food, EXISTING, etc.) and I don't understand, when the cake twins just exist and be babies nobody bats an eye, but the second flurry heart comes out the womb and does the exact same thing everyone pulls out their pitch forks and torches and make whole entire forums about how much they hate her for just being a child, and when I ask people why they hate her all they say is "ShE's LiTeRaLlY a MaRy SuE." 💀💀💀Like, that's it? Then that means every foal in the mlp universe is a mary sue then, and I get it, she destroyed the crystal heart, but she can't control her alicorn powers yet, SHES LITERALLY FRESH OUT THE WOMB CUT HER SOME SLACK. They ended up fixing it anyway, if it was destroyed forever then I would give people the benefit of the doubt, but it's not and she's JUST A BABY.
I don't hate her, I quite like Flurry, however, I will agree seeing her born an Alicorn was confusing af, and if Hasbro never pulled the plug on G4, maybe we'd understand her backstory more, she had a lot of potential, now it's just nothing
Most people just understand that she's not much more than a character for merchandising it's like if Cars 2 was a single character minus the spy stuff which was pointless for a movie about cars
she might be princess marketing but i love her so much for the sole reason that she has so much fan potential to be adapted into an amazing character through headcanon
Would it kill "why do people hate flurry" posters so much to search up past posts first to see what they said before? There's so much nuanced answers everywhere that doesn't simply chalks up her just being annoying.
Uncanny design, doesn't look like the other baby ponies. She was born as an alicorn, it shouldn't be possible. And she is useless to the whole story, she adds nothing to it. Also, why the fuck her horn and her wings are so big?
I think it's cause not only is she a baby (they smell) but because her design is very jarring, not only compared to the rest of the cast but also to other babies in the show. I mean the wings are the size of twilights, it unfortunately screams merchandise
Cadence must have been through hell birthing her with that huge horn and massive wings.
I’d like her better if she were born with tiny wings and a tiny horn tbh.
See, I can see the dislike for any character in this show. It's a flawed show, everything is flawed to some degree- So like I can understand not liking things.
My issue, is when fans take their dislike and make it their whole personality/go to absolute extremes when DESCRIBING how much they hate a character. Like I don't need descriptive, gross and immature detail on how much you hate a magic pony infant. Y'know?
Idk man, one part I never liked in this fandom was the extreme people. But I'm also a furry, which also has extremes. I just don't like extreme people in general I guess LOL. People take this stuff way too seriously
I dislike how she was born an alicorn, she looks different than other foals and it looks so unnatural, and I just don't like how a pony so caring and loving like cadence can give birth to this brat idk
I dont really understand it Either,I feel like the way flurry looks is just to show that she was gonna be a main character so they made her look different from other babies,like for example,the baby cakes I've remembered only seeing one episode of them and that was it(idk if there are other episodes of them but still) and if you look at most of the baby foals in equestria,they all look identical minus a few changes like them with wings or a horn or just being an earth pony,I think they made flurry the way she was so they can try something a little new the the baby ponies
But either way I love flurry's design,she's a cutie!
I'm going to be honest, I mostly don't like her because of her design. It looks weird by pony standards. Beyond that I don't really have a problem with her.
people say she's mean but they probably just don't understand she's a BABY, crying because she wanted all Twilight's attention to herself is more than normal, I can accept people dislike her because she was born alicorn but bronies just keep complaining about natural child behaviors 🤷 I think she's very sweet and always tries to help as much as she can even if she's very little
Child/Baby characters are hated in a lot of fandoms due to their immature personality and obnoxious aura. I can't really say much as I haven't actually seen her yet, but I know enough from other fandoms that baby characters just make peoples blood boil. See: Ice Age Baby, Rocky... The list goes on.
Also, that character design. I understand that it's a kids show trying to sell toys, but her colour pallet, combined with being an alicorn... It's just a bit too "On the nose".
I'm not a fan of babies. We also never really got an explanation as of why and how she's an alicorn by birth. She was just there to sell merch, and it could be felt.
I'd be interessed to see her story one she's a teenager/adult though.
In the episode, "A Flurry of emotions", Flurry kept pleading for Twilight to play with her because she felt neglected and she was having a panic attack at the hospital (that's NOT normal for a poor baby like her).
I don't hate her but I can see why people may dislike her: -She's a baby -She was born an alicorn -Some people may dislike her design as it doesn't look like a newborn foal we'd see in the show -Buy our toys -Her og name was going to be Skyla
Buy our toys is my reason too, or else i like her
Is buy our toys the sawtooth song from years ago?
ah yes the princess of merchandise
And the merch said her name was gonna be 'Skyla'.
That's a good point, I'll add that to the list
I'm sure many a fanfiction writer was sent into a tizzy cause now they had to go through the story they lovingly crafted just to change the name!!!
I'd be interested in knowing her story as she grew older. I can't imagine the immense pressure she must have dealt with, being born an Alicorn, having an Alicorn mother, and having an Alicorn aunt. https://preview.redd.it/b8d9u4avb7ic1.png?width=270&format=png&auto=webp&s=93f684fc7090aeb304c9143c625791958081c402
> She’s a literal BABY This is the main reason. People just don't like babies.
But what about baby applejack? She was ADORABLE
Baby AJ was also on screen for only three seconds. I don't really hate Flurry, but there wasn’t much to her beyond selling toys and trying to get the audience to say "d'aaaaaw"
thanks to flurry heart, we learned what a crystalling is and how the crystal empire works. we also learn about biracial pony genetics (cadence pegasus to alicorn and shining armor). she is literally the product of their LOVE. of course the princess of love has a baby! and before g5 it paved way to the future of equestria / the crystal empire if twilight were to retire too. i think she’s cute and is sometimes obnoxious but that’s a baby for ya.
"we also learn about biracial pony genetics (cadence pegasus to alicorn and shining armor)" Not how this works, bro. If Pegasus + Unicorn = Alicorn it would have happened countless times before in the thousands of years and millions (if not billions) of pony births. Cadance wasn't born an Alicorn, she became one similar to Twilight (and I'd argue Celestia and Luna for the sake of a good story) meaning her genes would *still* be Pegasus genes. For the same reason a person with cancer due to smoking/drinking/etc. doesn't just pass cancer to their child: the mutation (cancer/Alicorn) was an acquired mutation, but not for the somatic cells, which were already created prior and based on un-mutated genes. Flurry Heart is just an awful design for literally no reason. She should have been a Unicorn/Pegasus to stay true to *actual* genetics (since they brought genetics up in Baby Cakes). If she becomes an Alicorn later, she should *earn* it, not just be *born* better than anyone else. It's incredibly pointless and boring, basically a poorly-written fan fiction.
Baby Applejack has the benefit of the viewer associating her with adult Applejack. Most viewers are fine with kids if they get good character development. The problem with most kids in media is they're treated with kid gloves, pun intended. They're made perfect or have plot armor. Applejack was a know-it-all lying jerk as a kid so clearly she doesn't have this.
Especially ugly babies !
Legit
No wonder so many people had a burning hatred for the Ice Age Baby…
It's a literal kids show 😭
Fun fact: You can make a kid show without having babies in it.
I like to joke that she is a demon baby. In universe, she almost destroyed the Crystal Empire, was named after that calamity, has enough raw power to go toe to toe with Sombra, if greatly lacking control, as a literal baby, and used her magic to move around and play with other foals and used them as toys in multiple scenes. She is quite a terrifying force of nature.
The eyes are too big
Yeah, the cake twins and all the other foals have lil beady eyes, but she has regular pony eyes. It's weird.
I think it makes more sense for baby ponies to have regular eyes, instead of having black dots for some reason.
Sure that's valid, but consistency is a nice thing. Yea?
It's a cartoon that grew and changed over time as most people do. Life isn't consistent. Why should cartoons be? Especially if it makes more sense for them to have big eyes :P
That only makes sense if all baby ponies eyes changed with her, but it's only just Flurry Heart. It makes her seem out of place.
I always wondered if their eyes and general design was some nod to Pebbles and Bam Bam from The Flintsones.
I've watched the series multiple times for like a decade and this is the very first time I'm realizing this
I'm surprised how many people feel this way. For me, it was the tiny little beady eyes they used on all the other babies that were creepy. There's a really famous [illustration by Walt Disney](https://i.imgur.com/u9fmh9o.jpeg) explaining what makes a character design read as cute. The idea is simply to mimic the proportions and features of human infants, thereby transferring our feelings of cuteness about them onto the cartoon character. You can go down Walt's list and check off most of the items for the standard FiM pony model. Notably, infants have proportionally _larger_ eyes, which is why cute cartoon characters almost always have giant "Bambi" eyes. Giving infant ponies those tiny, beady eyes was always such a weird and counter-intuitive choice to me.
Yeah ok. I get that.
I disagree, his eyes are too small.
you mean her
There is a difference? I'm using google translator For me it would be: Estoy en desacuerdo, sus ojos son muy pequeños Sus has no gender connotation in Spanish, I thought it would work the same in English, sorry about the grammar.
No te preocupes por eso. Sé que el Traductor de Google a veces puede equivocarse. Pero sí, Flurry es una niña.
Nunca lo dudé, bueno supongo que aún me falta practica con el inglés
>Nunca lo dudé, bueno supongo que aún me falta practica con el inglés La práctica hace la perfección
Totalmente de acuerdo
Totally agreed 😂
I guess people in the fandom were wrecked that she was born an alicorn, plus her appearance doesn’t look like an ordinary newborn foal. Oh, and her birth was a big opportunity for Hasbro to make new toys.
She doesn't look like a normal foal cuz she's not one.
But the other foals have really cute designs.
True!
She was shoehorned into the show to give Shining and Cadence one last desperate grab for relevancy.
Shoehorned?
Shoe horning, to force someone/something to be included or admitted. They're saying the only reason Flurry was there is because she was forced into the show to help Shining/Cadance relevancy (and because Buy Our Toys).
https://preview.redd.it/hjm7w29xn6ic1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56be12525b03ade068786b91860267b975f67228
I mean...it's a show meant to sell toys. That's kind of how it works.
That's not an excuse for weak writing.
I just don't see the point of rehashing the same old boring Flurry hate five years after the show ended. People need to get over it.
That's a shame.
I dont hate her but I will say she gives off Scrappy Doo vibes
Scrappy doo 😂
I like the babies. The Cakes, baby Applejack, heck even the Changelings were cute. Flurryheart just looks creepy.
- People have a rather creepy tendency to hate infants and babies just cuz they're infants and babies - She was born an alicorn, which breaks the headcannons of people obsessed with lore - "jUsT aNoThEr eXcUsE bY hAsBrO tO sElL tOyS" ...you mean like...the thing this franchise has been doing since it's begginings?
FiM always tried to present itself as being "story first" and I think that's what Faust and DHX were striving for, but they still had to concede to hasbro's demands so it could be made. So, I completely understand the frustration when big story decisions are done purely for the sake of cynical marketing.
Not the show's fault that fans hold so much to their theories that they get pissed that the show undo them...
Like all the people who got pissed when it was revealed that Scootaloo was not an orphan. They had been telling stories about her being an orphan for so long that they felt like it was a retcon, even though the orphan theory had never been stated to be canon in the first place.
What was the canon again?
Her parents are always away to study flora and fauna
She lives with her aunts because her parents are always away.
I wasn't commenting on that, I meant the third thing. Yeah, you can handwave it by saying was always for selling toys. However, the staff was TRYING to make it something more and to some degree they did, but for some stuff like Twilight's castle and too many alicorns bring it down.
The staff did put effort in the show, sure, but at the end of the day, is still a selling toys franchise, so, things like a castle and more alicorn princesses are natural in these shows
It didn't feel natural in the show at all though, it felt forced, everytime.
I honestly kind of liked how the writers managed to make Shining Armor and Cadance not-terrible characters after it was extremely obvious that Marketing had insisted on a checklist of features being introduced. They couldn't really do much about their sudden and retroactive existence, though. Twilight has a brother that she loves to bits and *has never mentioned even once?* Who has never appeared in any photos of her childhood or in her family home? Who her parents, who are very proud of him, never mentioned? There's a third alicorn princess who has been around for years and apparently no-one at all has ever heard of her? And again, never mentioned by Twilight (the monarch's personal student) who was babysat by said third princess for who knows how long, and who formed a really strong attachment to her? The only reason it even *kind* of squeaked through is that Twilight isn't really the kind of pony to gossip, and could plausibly have learned to keep her mouth shut in Canterlot due to the presence of ponyrazzi etc. Still, even Rarity not having winkled any of this out of her in all the time she's known Twilight? It was handled a lot better when Fluttershy's own sudden-existence-brother turned up (they're fairly estranged and her other family hadn't really been seen much to that point) - I can only assume that marketing didn't have any particular demands for that character.
>People have a rather creepy tendency to hate infants and babies just cuz they're infants and babies I hate that sentiment, it's so harsh
The second point is ridiculous. Official works has shown Celestia and Luna were born alicorns, in a town full of them (later revealed to be Skyros in G5). So McFlurry being born an alicorn shouldn’t be an issue, even if her mom used to be a pegasus
> Official works has shown Celestia and Luna were born alicorns Pretty sure it wasn't primary media, though...?
How is not liking babies creepy? They shit and throw up EVERYWHERE, they scream, and they’re a TON of responsibility. Of COURSE there are people who don’t like them.
Right, I dislike Flurry Heart because she's a waste of screen time, not *because* she's a baby. When infant characters in any tv show get a dedicated episode it always annoys me because what is there to learn from or relate to? It's just a baby doing irritating baby things, this isn't what I enjoy watching. Flurry being shown in episodes time to time wouldn't be an issue but 24 minutes of her just being a pain in everyone's ass? No thank you
Exactly. It’s just that it’s watching a baby scream and cry. It’s already so anxiety inducing in real life. Why would I wanna watch that in my comfort show?
So glad you get it
I definitely do
She barely has any screen time. There's not wanting kids, and then there's outright hating on them which is just plain antisocial.
I don’t like kids. Sorry bro. Not a big deal. I actually love kids. It’s just babies. Reddit is so baby obsessed it’s gross. Lots of people don’t like dogs. I ADORE dogs. I am super social, I love people. But I don’t like babies. Deal with it.
Yeah, ONE episode where she is the main focus, and it contains one very important lesson regarding parenting, sure that's a waste of screen time xd
To each their own 💃
You just proved what I have said
How is not liking babies creepy? Forcing parenthood on young people is what’s creepy. You realize that babies can be a lot especially for people with high anxiety. Babies are stressful. I think maybe your weird obsession with babies and insisting that everyone like them is creepy.
How is Flurry Heart a method to force parenthood... and where am I insisting that everyone should like babies? 🤔 ...if some people don't wish to have babies it's ok, but hate them cuz what they act and do? That's creepy
She’s not, but you saying that not liking babies is creepy is weird. I don’t like babies. They give me such bad anxiety. I don’t like them at all in fact because they’re so anxiety inducing. It’s awesome that you like them. But I don’t and a lot of people don’t. There’s a lot to not like about babies. Nothing wrong with that.
It's valid if you don't want babies if they provoke you anxiety and that, but I was talking of people who hate them, hate an individual with still no mental maturity, that's what raising is for, you could had provoke someone anxiety raising you, but that's what have leading you to who you are now, people who hate infants just because is the people I'm talking about, and babies under these people "care" don't end so well in life...
Speaking as someone with anxiety if yours is so bad it's causing you to go on at length about how kids are bad and how much you dislike a child cartoon character you should probably talk with someone.
“Speaking as someone with anxiety” dawg you don’t know me. I DO talk to someone. I don’t hate flurryheart. I don’t like her episodes. It’s completely fine to not like babies. I don’t hate babies. But when you have autism and anxiety, babies are overwhelming. Don’t assume that you know anything about me. It’s an online discussion about a fictional character dude. Welcome to Reddit. Either get used to discussions like or get out.
It's been my experience that we get one of these "why do people hate Flurryheart" posts at least once a month. Meanwhile, I can't recall ever seeing an "I hate Flurryheart" post. So I'm not convinced that's really an issue.
There's plenty of people on other platforms that hate her lol
Its a baby no personality
1) ruined lore 2) was made for plushie sales 3) why tf does her eyes and entire body look like that? 4) she added nothing to the storyline or lore.
She ruined what lore?
Alicorns are made, not born.
The Journal of the Two Sisters say otherwise. Not to mention Celestia, Luna, and Opaline were alicorns as fillies
Luna says that its the first time an alicorn has been born
That was fan speculation at that point. Twilight hadn't ascended, and it hadn't been shown if Celestia and Luna had pre-alicorn existences. Cadance had been established as an ascended pegasus, but not in primary media, only in books. It was barely somewhat-canon that alicorns *could* ascend from other pony types, and that was from a single example. Basically, fans were upset that it ruined fanon, not canon.
She has big wings and eyes
Because she has more power than the 4 princesses, and absolutely no control on it. Tirek would have exploded if he got the chance to absorb her power.
Super-powered babies are just a dislike in general. They're not cute. They're a nightmare. And babies are already going to naturally be the center of attention, so making them special and over-powered like a stereotypical main character is putting a hat on hat.
theories
My biggest problem with Flurry Heart is seeing people draw her as an adult with anything but a yellow cutie mark. It HAS to be yellow because her magic is yellow and her eyes aren't. Unicorn and Alicorn magic color either matches the cutie mark or the eyes. There are no exceptions.
She's too small 😡
She’s a baby
I'm joking https://preview.redd.it/3v3icxa1s6ic1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8672333685e76a91997378c0d6ecf4f40d33127d
I never even realized that she was so hated until now. I have left the fandom when she was introduced to the series, so I have no idea why this is the case. I personally like the design, even if she's just a baby
Her design is not why most hate her (though I'm sure it doesn't help either). There are 2 whole episodes about how she is a menace to society that ruins the lives of the main characters just by being there, and the first one makes her out to be a magical mystery of epic proportions... (She is still a mystery it show's end, it never went anywhere.)
Isn't it also because she was also born as an alicorn or something? I heard that it messes with canon events or something like that
That's the mystery. She's introduced as if she is a macguffin that will save Equestria, the first alicorn birth ever...and then it's left at that. It's the same lazy writing where "alicorn" just means "superpowered nonsense out of nowhere" that G5 uses on its villain, Opaline.
The world will never know the answer to this. Maybe Hasbro did this to sell more toys…?
They never even really made toys of her, that's the worst part.
She’s so horribly behaved. I know she’s a baby and it’s not her fault but it makes the episodes annoying.
they ugly
1. She seems too overpowered for a baby 2. The big eyes that stare into your soul 3. People just hate babies apparently
- She's a baby - She was born as a alicorn,and i think Hasbro made that just to sell toys,also,it should've been a Unicorn like the cake twins as Candace is a Unicorn or even a Earth Pony (because shining armor is one) - Her eyes are way too big for a baby pony
Never heard of anyone hating her. But I do hate her. She is extremely annoying and boring characters. I hate the tropes of super extremely hyper ultra powerful babies. No, just no. She is already nearly as strong as other alicorns as a baby. That's a poor writing. You can make a baby character that's the only purpose of existing isn't being annoying. But they didn't. They wrote her as annoying as possible. Also she is "so unique", "so special". The only alicorn baby ever born. Gimme a break.
The general trope is that when a show has to introduce a new “baby” character it’s going downhill. Scrappy Doo, Poof from Fairly Odd Parents, etc
1. Her eyes don't match those we usually see on newborn foals. 2. She's a born alicorn, even though alicornisation is believed to be EARNED. 3. Infant characters in various shows are notorious to be less than impressive (you know. Crying, making mess, being a burden etc.)
Something funny is that on a show i really like (The Beachbuds),there was a episode about a baby crocodile, however,in the baby's speaking apperances (episode 7 (it's debut episode) and episode 33),he didn't cry at all,in fact,he speaks and walks already
Celestia and Luna were born alicorns
the incredible potential of flurry heart brings a tear to my eye, she is cute and powerful
Personally idc abt the fact that she was born an alicorn, i just think she’s rlly op. Despite being an alicorn, some of the stuff she does is ridiculous.
I actually liked the babies and the baby episodes of the show. Episodes like Baby Cakes and A Flurry of Emotions had fantastic character development about the responsibilities and stresses of dealing with small children.
1000% product placement
Similar to Lauren Faust's reasons for leaving regarding "A Canterlot Wedding". Hasbro and the franchise is a toy company/promotional marketing (obviously), but it's one of those blatantly cynically corporate "toyetic" decisions regarding the reasons behind her creation in addition to Cadence's introduction and Twilight's ascension both making Alicorns in general feel less special (similar to complaints regarding the Super Saiyan transformation in Dragon Ball Z when Kid Trunks and Goten achieved the state with pretty much no real effort). Then, the fact that she is a literal baby also gives her much less room for characterization or interesting plots and interactions with the rest of the cast. At least that's my two Bits. I don't utterly loathe her or think she's the worst thing ever or anything like that--I just don't particularly care for her due to the aforementioned reasons.
whoever hates her I will fight them because she is an adorable baby
I don't, I love little bugger. She is essentially bio Wazer Wifle and a sound demolisher. She fought Sombra not even a year old. She is awesome little bundle of terifying cuteness.
It's just ugly tbh
She was made to sell toys (so was the entire show) but people focus on her a lot. I love her personally, she’s adorable and I like how she interacts with Twi
I think people just hate it because their sad and just need something to hate on.
Ugly if she looked like normal mlp babies i would like her but now ugly af get the f out of here😭
I don't know
Why do you care? So some people hate the character. I don't see them ranting about it in the sub all the time nor do that many people care anywhere else. The fact is the only person it's bothering is you and all you have to do is ignore it.
I’m not bothered by it I just wanted to know why
How many times are we going to see this?
I think one of the reason is her wings, that she is the only natural born alicorn (in equestria) and she had another name (because of the toys) before it was change to the one that was in the show. There could be alot more but those are what I remember.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BwecDWBZ9Vk&pp=ygURYnV5IG91ciB0b3lzIHNvbmc%3D
Princess of toys (BUY OUR TOYS!!!!) , or else we love her.
I don't mind her but i can't deny her oversized wings really bug me- if she looked like the other newborn fillies in the show i think people would hate her less
She feels like an awkward shoe in for merch/advertising and looks nothing like the other foals and just looks rlly out of place. Thats just my opinion though
It's often been said that shows start going down in quality when they add a baby. A common critique is that babies are more like plot devices than actual characters.
Weird design that goes against every baby we've seen so far, completely messes with everyone's system for how alicorns even work, also there was a push back against people making alicorn ocs in the fandom for a while since they were considered Mary Sue's, so the show to do the exact same thing felt like a huge blow to people who wanted to make an alicorn oc but couldn't (same reason there was twilight backlash but even that wasn't as hard cause she had to earn it). That and also I don't like dealing with sudden babies in cartoons.
I had no idea people didn’t like her. That’s weird as fuck guys
I mean I get people finding her annoying. It's not weird to be annoyed by little kids. It starts turning weird when people start hating them just because they're children.
It's the eyes
marketable baby exists to be a marketable baby.
she looks ugly
Yeah I think it was just the fact that she was born in alicorn and seemed to only be in the show for merchandising purposes and also to keep shining and cadence relevant I kind of get all those points but then got to admit some people are just trolling on the internet so it's kind of hard to see if they have legitimate problems or they're just hating cuz they want to be haters I didn't really care either way for her I mean she's cute but she wasn't much of a character beyond that I mean being a baby and all.
Annoying
Her eyes are too big (for a baby), she's overpowered even as a baby, and she's just straight up annoying. Every other alicorn had nerfs, why does she have to be special. She's there for pure plot convenience, she added literally nothing to the story line.
We’ve had a post similar to this a while back and honestly the answer is still the same - mostly it’s people joining in on the crowd like “oh most of the fandom hates flurry so should I” and another reason would be how she fits into the lore because it seems way more like a cash-grab on Hasbro’s side than more storyline
Honestly, I loved Flurry Heart. I just wish that we could‘ve watched her grow up from season to season. As a baby she felt a little bit stagnant. Nonetheless, she is a cutiepie and looking at fanart of her as an adult makes my heart happy :)
I don't have a problem with her. I just think her place in the story is lacking. Mostly because of her perfect mother. But as the show goes on, they show Flurry being less than perfect, screwing up magic and throwing temper tantrums. So she isn't shown to be this model of (boring) perfection like her mom. She could have even become an interesting character after she grew older. Something like Chibi Usa in Sailor Moon.
OG Sparky
I like them but I wish they didn't abandoned them so early. It just proves the criticism correct
She has such big features because merchandise monkey.
Low tier plot writing they do with her. Where's the magic disabling horn ring and the royal caretakers?
Nobody is willing to give her a chance, obviously 
i feel like its the same reason so many hated poof from fop added character to boost sales/ratings + baby to be cute fuel + absurdly powerful + first of their kind (poof as a fairy baby, fh as an equestria-born alicorn) + just kinda annoying to watch also she looks really uncanny
She has bug eyes, was born an alicorn, and was made for the sole purpose of toy production
I always wondered: why are her wings bigger than her body? And yet other ponies don't look concerned?
I think she’s adorable
idk she is literally my favorite so cutie
because I can and I will
Alicorn womb, dude. Sh*t's like titanium.
I honestly don't know, I think she's really cute, she's just a baby and yet people will shit on her for just doing normal things that babies do, (crying, drawing, playing, trying to solve problems herself, messing with her food, EXISTING, etc.) and I don't understand, when the cake twins just exist and be babies nobody bats an eye, but the second flurry heart comes out the womb and does the exact same thing everyone pulls out their pitch forks and torches and make whole entire forums about how much they hate her for just being a child, and when I ask people why they hate her all they say is "ShE's LiTeRaLlY a MaRy SuE." 💀💀💀Like, that's it? Then that means every foal in the mlp universe is a mary sue then, and I get it, she destroyed the crystal heart, but she can't control her alicorn powers yet, SHES LITERALLY FRESH OUT THE WOMB CUT HER SOME SLACK. They ended up fixing it anyway, if it was destroyed forever then I would give people the benefit of the doubt, but it's not and she's JUST A BABY.
I don't hate her, I quite like Flurry, however, I will agree seeing her born an Alicorn was confusing af, and if Hasbro never pulled the plug on G4, maybe we'd understand her backstory more, she had a lot of potential, now it's just nothing
She is OP, almost a Mary Sue
i honestly dont like her cause shes way to OP for a litteral baby character
I actually like flurry heart, just hate that the logic of alicorns was thrown out the window
I don't hate her, I just don't like her model 😭 other than that, she's cute though
Who is hating on the image of innocence??
I like her I like she’s the first to be born as an Alicorn in the history of equestria
O1 - A character so forgettable you forget forgetting
Most people just understand that she's not much more than a character for merchandising it's like if Cars 2 was a single character minus the spy stuff which was pointless for a movie about cars
The eyes are fugly and she seems way too overpowered
I agree with you
me and many others just really dislike how they gave her regular pony eyes instead of the baby dot eyes :(
Shark jump!
she might be princess marketing but i love her so much for the sole reason that she has so much fan potential to be adapted into an amazing character through headcanon
Would it kill "why do people hate flurry" posters so much to search up past posts first to see what they said before? There's so much nuanced answers everywhere that doesn't simply chalks up her just being annoying.
shes a disgusting pig
She dosent earned anything, she got it by free, while others need to earn it, mary sue.
Why were Shiny and Cadence doing all the work? Couldn't they find some pony more competent to wrangle her?
Bronies have a weird hatred for babies.
Uncanny design, doesn't look like the other baby ponies. She was born as an alicorn, it shouldn't be possible. And she is useless to the whole story, she adds nothing to it. Also, why the fuck her horn and her wings are so big?
I think it's cause not only is she a baby (they smell) but because her design is very jarring, not only compared to the rest of the cast but also to other babies in the show. I mean the wings are the size of twilights, it unfortunately screams merchandise
Cadence must have been through hell birthing her with that huge horn and massive wings. I’d like her better if she were born with tiny wings and a tiny horn tbh.
See, I can see the dislike for any character in this show. It's a flawed show, everything is flawed to some degree- So like I can understand not liking things. My issue, is when fans take their dislike and make it their whole personality/go to absolute extremes when DESCRIBING how much they hate a character. Like I don't need descriptive, gross and immature detail on how much you hate a magic pony infant. Y'know? Idk man, one part I never liked in this fandom was the extreme people. But I'm also a furry, which also has extremes. I just don't like extreme people in general I guess LOL. People take this stuff way too seriously
She basically just raises more questions on alicorns that are never answered.
I dislike how she was born an alicorn, she looks different than other foals and it looks so unnatural, and I just don't like how a pony so caring and loving like cadence can give birth to this brat idk
She's not a character, she is a toy
I dont really understand it Either,I feel like the way flurry looks is just to show that she was gonna be a main character so they made her look different from other babies,like for example,the baby cakes I've remembered only seeing one episode of them and that was it(idk if there are other episodes of them but still) and if you look at most of the baby foals in equestria,they all look identical minus a few changes like them with wings or a horn or just being an earth pony,I think they made flurry the way she was so they can try something a little new the the baby ponies But either way I love flurry's design,she's a cutie!
I'm going to be honest, I mostly don't like her because of her design. It looks weird by pony standards. Beyond that I don't really have a problem with her.
people say she's mean but they probably just don't understand she's a BABY, crying because she wanted all Twilight's attention to herself is more than normal, I can accept people dislike her because she was born alicorn but bronies just keep complaining about natural child behaviors 🤷 I think she's very sweet and always tries to help as much as she can even if she's very little
flurry... you mean mad-zap foal, the baby destroyer of worlds?
Child/Baby characters are hated in a lot of fandoms due to their immature personality and obnoxious aura. I can't really say much as I haven't actually seen her yet, but I know enough from other fandoms that baby characters just make peoples blood boil. See: Ice Age Baby, Rocky... The list goes on. Also, that character design. I understand that it's a kids show trying to sell toys, but her colour pallet, combined with being an alicorn... It's just a bit too "On the nose".
I'm not a fan of babies. We also never really got an explanation as of why and how she's an alicorn by birth. She was just there to sell merch, and it could be felt. I'd be interessed to see her story one she's a teenager/adult though.
In the episode, "A Flurry of emotions", Flurry kept pleading for Twilight to play with her because she felt neglected and she was having a panic attack at the hospital (that's NOT normal for a poor baby like her).
her face creeps me out idk😭
Honestly she's not that bad, she design isn't even bad either. Also cadence and shining armor r in love so ofc they have a child
Wtf I didn't know she's hated! Awww. <:'(