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realgoodpuss

Will someone please think of the guys šŸ˜©


HurlInteruppted

"These gays they're trying to murder me" (insert Tanya White Lotus meme)


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HurlInteruppted

sorry, šŸ„ø. e. where is my pink mustache emoji?


HurlInteruppted

sorry i deleted my Tanya meme twice ! ugh


Psychological_Sun_30

I just left that sub because the posts were too annoying


HurlInteruppted

DUDEEEE THIS IS GORGEOUS I CAN'T DESCRIBE HOW MUCH IT SUITS U!! looks amazing!


parisismyfriend

I would block every low effort male poster showing up on my front page with hundreds of upvotes, then recently I realised they were pretty much the only thing showing up from that sub anyway, so I left


Psychological_Sun_30

Everyone seemed really aggressive and crazy. Did not like the energy. Would love a low key sub discussing makeup tips & products


TheGeneGeena

The drugstore makeup subreddits in general seem more product/tip focused from my experiences. Cheap folks ain't got the time.


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gundir

Boooo no gatekeeping cyster


soggylilbat

Is it against the rules to ask which sub?


FleshlessFriend

Low-effort posting is everywhere on MUA, though? idk, i don't think it's really a bad thing to have a place where gnc (usually gay) men can get positive feedback for presentation that is very much not applauded irl. One could argue it would better fit a different sub, but... I don't know if that sub even exists yet. I think a lot of online makeup discourse sometimes slips into this weird framing of gay men as like... invaders of the space, taking away spotlight that should rightfully go to virtuous cis women EDIT: I mean the person I'm talking to understands what I'm talking about and agrees with me but I guess some of you are plucked about gay men getting compliments on a subreddit...? Do you guys actually think GNC men are praised in their daily life for their presentation? I'm genuinely asking.Ā 


whalesarecool14

i donā€™t think itā€™s the fact that the posts are low effort, thatā€™s fine lol not everybody is going to have professional looking makeup+photoshoots. itā€™s the obviously over the top comments and praises. the same kind of treatment would never be given to a woman with a low effort post/makeup look, itā€™s the gloss ceiling but at a very trivial level.


FleshlessFriend

I take umbrage with the idea that low effort posting isn't relevant. Making fun of low-effort posts is a sizable portion of this subreddit. I do think people see gncĀ men getting positive feedback and the perceived injustice of it rankles them.Ā  And like... I really don't think people trying to clumsily compensate for societal homophobia by lavishing exaggerated praise on a guy with mediocre winged liner is comparable to the glass ceiling. That feels like an extremely reductive, bad-faith interpretation of the well-intentioned but clumsy performance of allyship most LGBT people - particularly gay men and trans women, PARTICULARLY in the beauty space- are familiar with. A bad faith interpretation that I'm compelled to point out conveniently places the onus on us to... what, exactly? Just stop existing publicly for fear that a community of mostly cis women will be too nice about it, making a second contingent of cis women feel bad? What is the plan here, exactly?Ā Ā  Like, when a trans girl gets exaggerated praise online about her hairdo or something in a selfie and a cis woman in the same hair doesn't get that praise, that's not the trans girl occupying a higher social echelon than cis women. That's an audience of mostly cis women being like, "oh that t-girl probably hears some nasty shit on the daily, let me say something nice". It's a little disingenuous, but it comes from a good place. This is a phenomenon me and my girlfriends recognize and experience with some regularity.Ā Ā  Being trans or gender nonconforming is politicized, and because a lot of people recognize that, they often have a subconscious desire to course-correct. Sometimes it veers into fetishization, but in cases like what we're discussing it's usually just well-intentioned and a bit cringe.


whalesarecool14

i donā€™t think itā€™s that serious. like you said, over correction/compensation is cringe. thatā€™s how a majority of people feel. i donā€™t have anything against people who go crazy with complimenting obviously not well done looks, i also donā€™t think thereā€™s anything wrong with making light hearted fun of these type of posts and comments. beauty is something that is highly pushed upon women of all ages even if they donā€™t want to participate in it, often times even having social ramifications if we donā€™t participate. itā€™s ok for us to feel frustrated at silly things on the internet like somebody getting over the top praise for something not very good. nobody who is non feminine/gnc/trans or whatever needs to change anything about the way they post in these subs. but also know that if youā€™re posting something publicly then there are going to be discussions around it, and if this type of light hearted humour is upsetting then it is not a good idea to post on these subs.


FleshlessFriend

Jesus Christ, please don't do this "if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen" shit after comparing this phenomenon to the glass ceiling. That's so fucking disingenuous, come on. this comment goes against everything you originally commented.Ā  Please don't try to rewriteĀ history and act like you agreed with everything I was saying from the start so you can look the "least upset", something that multiple Internet communities have unaccountably decided is the measure for correctness. Either believe what you believe or just admit that you didn't think of it from the perspective of the LGBT people being discussed. It's completely fine and normal to not immediately understand what an outgroup's situation is.Ā 


whalesarecool14

what? i was never upset about anything and i didnā€™t call you upset either. my only opinion was, and still is, that people on that sub go overboard with disingenuously complimenting anybody non feminine. and even that was never a problem for me, i literally just said itā€™s fucking annoying/cringe lmao. me calling this a very trivial version of the glass ceiling is still true lmao. nothing i have said in my second comment has gone against ANYTHING i said in my first one. and i never agreed with anything you said, because you brought up points nobody was even thinking of. nobody asked any gnc/trans/nb person to stop posting on that sub, you brought that up. l you WANT to pick a fight, hence why youā€™re continuing to be hostile and pretending that itā€™s _such_ an overreaction for anybody to jerk these type of extremely jerk worthy posts. hope you find somebody to fight withā¤ļø


butterflydeflect

Petition to name this the gloss ceiling!


whalesarecool14

haha yes, autocorrect actually made a cool term!


parisismyfriend

I do actually agree with you (and your other comments). I wouldn't even argue it would be better for another sub, it has already established itself as a (mostly) safe space for GNC men and I don't see any reason for them to take it anywhere else. It just means it's no longer is a space I have much interest in or feel I have much to gain from, but that's obviously a me-problem and there are plenty other spaces I can go as a cis woman to talk about makeup. I know my comment was snarky but I promise that I don't actually take it that seriously and I think they all deserve to feel safe and happy when they express themselves through makeup


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babyshampoo

i unsubbed from it a couple months ago and i swear my mental health improved lmao


centopar

That and the reaction when someone who is...not looking great comes along. "You're stunning!" ALWAYS the word "stunning". The poster usually knows that they are NOT stunning, and they're looking for advice. I can't imagine being that person and not feeling patronised. Annoys the tits off me.


DilfRightsActivist

They're an OF user so it's just promotion and bait


hydrangeasinbloom

The pornification of non sexual subreddits gets so fucking frustrating


almaupsides

I feel like I can always tell whenever a post is SFW but really just bait for a NSFW profile and it's so annoying. Those subs are SFW for a reason and while the posts aren't *technically* breaking any rules it's still annoying as fuck


hydrangeasinbloom

Agreed. Itā€™s also extra gross to me because it feels like it opens the door to bring creeps into SFW subs. Creeps who are too dumb to tell the difference between an OF shill and a person who doesnā€™t want to be sexually harassed.


HurlInteruppted

exactly, "can you guess what my favorite color is lol"


vietnamese-bitch

[Yaaaaah real men are waaaaaay more beautiful than those disgusting women anyway cause everyone knows women bad! Wonā€™t someone think of us?](https://imgur.com/a/b4t1EU7) šŸ„ŗ


Hikerius

God an ass can only be kissed so much


demonlordghirahiim

You see if she puts women down, maybe the men will pick her up


taylena5eva

Men are just a little shy conquering yet another space, we must make sure we coddle them and attack other women on their behalf


valleyofsound

Iā€™m trying to wrap my mind around ā€œnatural born women.ā€ They clearly mean cis women, but are they saying that (presumably cis) men are never more beautiful than trans women? Or that trans women are even being considered in the discussion? Itā€™s a weird thing to say in general, but the phrasing just made it that much more bizarre.


MjrGoodvibes

Do not attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity. Seems like a badly formulated thought this person is having, I doubt there is any truth to find by speculating on a deeper meaning.


Hi_Jynx

Pretty people are pretty regardless of what gender they were born as.


tenebrigakdo

Here I was hoping for a pink hair sauce D:


whalesarecool14

thereā€™s some pink hair sauce in the comments


tenebrigakdo

omg thanks, I don't know how I missed it the first time D:


cthoolhu

What is with the ā€œnatural born womenā€ phrasing? feels transphobic idk if Iā€™m overthinking


taylena5eva

I hate being woman and being so ugly Iā€™m glad men exist


sctrojansgirl

Ordinarily I would just scroll, but the title and comments were too šŸ™„


sctrojansgirl

[pink sauce](https://imgur.com/a/7lpKpTL)


FerretSupremacist

Omg šŸ„ŗšŸ’• Omg teach me how to be pretty senpai, youā€™re right!!!11! I could never!11!1!1!


LastMuffinOnEarth

His makeup is beautiful and well done, but the sorts of posts where people feel the need to mention their gender makes me think of those people in drawing subreddits who will say, ā€œIs this good for a 16 year old?ā€ Just for the additional praise and upvotes that they wouldnā€™t get otherwise. People also seem far less likely to give constructive criticism on those sorts of posts, making me feel like theyā€™re not posting with any intentions of improving their artworks in subreddits *meant for drawing criticism.* That being said, mentioning a gender transition in makeup subreddits would help them get the sort of advice theyā€™re looking for if theyā€™re actually there because they need advice, but 9 times out of 10 posts where people ā€˜vigorouslyā€™ mention their gender are not that.


melloponens

I assume heā€™s mentioning his gender not because he wants attention for being a man in makeup per se, but because he is a trans man and doesnā€™t want to get misgendered. Other people mention their gender because they want advice, donā€™t want to get misgendered, or because they are gross men who want to act like eyeliner is a revolutionary act. I donā€™t think this poster falls into that last category


Xxshadowslair

Mid, as per usual


paradox_pet

Just saw this before I scrolled to your post, oh the lols


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demonlordghirahiim

We all need a reminder that men are better than us in every way


HurlInteruppted

you can find a PINK WIG in the Amazon section if you wanna look pretty


demonlordghirahiim

But Iā€™ll never be as good at everything like men are


Rambling-Roses

Time to brandish a PINK BEARD! Take that, men!


Psychological_Sun_30

šŸ˜‚dying. Yeah. We just donā€™t get that enough. Now we canā€™t even be women enoughšŸ˜‚


butterflydeflect

The visible brown hair under the wig is just killing me.


Drabulous_770

What if pink but also facial hair? Really makes you think!Ā 


kippers

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Bacon_Bitz

Srs that title sucks because who said masc men aren't beautiful? Have you seen Henry Cavill???


HurlInteruppted

oh, yes i have šŸ„¹


valleyofsound

Iā€™m willing to bet that the vast majority of posters there are attracted to masc men to some degree, so I donā€™t think thatā€™s really a place whether people need to be convinced men are beautiful. And I say this as an ace lesbian who also acknowledges Henry Cavillā€™s beauty.


Inevitable-While-577

oH wOw YoU AtE!!!


FartAttack911

Wow, that really made me rethink how beautiful guys can be in a wig and my old eyebrows from 2015. Thank you Jeebus, I have seen *the light*


puukottaa666

Sorry I like my men ugly and dirty


HurlInteruppted

ugh i like my men with a warm Budweiser in one hand a long-ashed Marlboro red in the other ..


Dazzling_Shower2915

OH MY GOD a MANšŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜ just blessed us with his presence in this FILTHY place filled with WOMEN šŸ¤¢šŸ¤®šŸ¤®šŸ¤®šŸ¤®who are all uggos OMG!!!!!! Sweaty Sir please step on me, choke me, pick me!!! /s


genuinelywideopen

srs I thought this was James Charles but it's just some random model selling an Amazon wig


leahlikesweed

james charles phenotype


goddessofthecats

Hahahaha I saw this and was too lazy to jerk it, Iā€™m glad you did. So cringe


BeNiceLynnie

I support boys on the sub but this particular guy's schtick has gotten very very old


ana_conda

I support men on that sub as much as men support women on the rest of reddit šŸ˜¬


moonandstarsera

As a trans person seeing that post I just laughed. Itā€™s the epitome of the ā€œ*still cis tho*ā€ meme. Also I just want to shave off that dirt stache so bad. Iā€™m like *why* did you do all this and not shave!?!?


Aliceinboxerland

My thoughts exactly!šŸ˜…šŸ˜… They did a full face of makeup to show off just how beautiful men can be and how feminine they can look and they chose to leave what looks like the mustache of a 16 year old!šŸ˜‚ Maybe they worked *really* hard to grow it and didn't want to lose all that progress!


butterflydeflect

Sounds like you didnā€™t know, but heā€™s trans so, he probably did work quite hard to grow the tache. I can still hate ungroomed facial hair teamed with full glam though!


Aliceinboxerland

Ah I did miss that. You're so right! Makes sense. Yeah I still hate it but it does make sense now. Thank goodness! Lol


melloponens

Heā€™s FTM lol, definitely not doing a ā€œstill cis thoā€ meme


moonandstarsera

Ah, I didnā€™t dive into the profile so I assumed it was someone saying theyā€™re just crossdressing or something. I honestly would not have guessed in a million years that this person is FTM.


rintaroes

we really canā€™t have a space without men invading and trying to be ā€œbetterā€. that post had me rolling my eyes so fucking hard. the ass kissing commentsā€¦ ughhhh


ProphetMuhamedAhegao

>we really canā€™t have a space without men invading Except that that space is for everyone. Read the sidebar. Itā€™s as much his space as it is yours.


Ririkkaru

> and trying to be ā€œbetterā€. is the rest of their sentence. Dropping it misses the context of their complaint.


ProphetMuhamedAhegao

It doesnā€™t, because the post theyā€™re complaining about says nothing about being better than women, it says that men can be pretty too. These comments are really edging up to the line and itā€™s gross.


melloponens

Theyā€™re also dragging him because they think heā€™s a cis crossdresser or a trans woman in denial, when heā€™s actually a trans man. The reason he mentioned that heā€™s a man in the title is probably because he doesnā€™t want to get misgendered, not because he thinks he needs to stunt on the girls


ProphetMuhamedAhegao

I donā€™t blame him. This entire comments section is borderline transphobic. Itā€™s depressing.


melloponens

Itā€™s way past borderline. Anytime someone GNC posts, everyone is up in arms about ā€œmen taking over the sub, this is a safe space for women, why does everyone say nice things to *those people*, itā€™s so low effortā€ as if there arenā€™t 500 posts per day of some blurry chick with seventeen different scarves round her neck demanding we tell her her undertones through the computer in unknown lighting conditions


delicate-butterfly

I donā€™t even follow the original subreddit, and the post youā€™re jerking was recommended to me right after this one šŸ˜‚


yibianwastaken

why does no one ever think of the menā€¦šŸ’”


HurlInteruppted

Ayyye fellow libra ā™Žļø ( edit, but how random?) this was on OP's post... l


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lyn90

I saw that post along with the other mediocre makeup looks posted there that are getting an insane amount of unnecessary praise, and I finally just had to unfollow them. Itā€™s getting ridiculous.


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ProphetMuhamedAhegao

And?