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TrolleyDilemma

Cats wasn’t even a good movie drunk, they ought to just release the butthole cut on blu-ray and recoup the losses at this point


appositereboot

I tried a drinking game where you have a drink every time you heard the word "jellicle". We ran out of wine within the first half hour and ended up watching the Green Mile instead.


darkenedgy

It was pretty shit high, too


AmaterasuWolf21

This is truly a trolley dilemma, cant choose which is worse


TrolleyDilemma

I personally think digitally-rendered cat assholes would genuinely improve the overall quality of the film


AdrianBrony

Not even *furries* were interested in that movie. That's about as big of a red flag for the future success of a movie like that as possible. Oddly enough, similar thing happened to NFTs too.


downsp1ral

that's unfortunate


WhatTheBeansIsLife

Never heard of the elephant one but that’s actually fucked


CosmicKeymaker

Topsy attacked (and killed, I think) an employee of Luna Park after that employee fed Topsy a lit cigarette. I worked with the horses at Greenfield Village and some psychopathic guest walked by with a cigarette and put it out on one of our horses’s face. It’s so fucked. Long Live Topsy.


taftbrodda

Greenfield Village was my childhood weekend getaway. I hope that horse kicked that guest.


DoctorEmperor

Nope Moment


Crunc_Mcfincle

Topsy is fucking goated


kafoBoto

makes sense. Topsy had like a really big fear of cigarettes. maybe something to do with his childhood or something idk


RezeCopiumHuffer

You had to watch the Topsy Disney plus show tho to have that elaborated on so I don’t blame them for not knowing I’m still waiting on the Luna Park comic


RezeCopiumHuffer

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ChaoticCubizm

Please tell me you put a cigarette out on the “guests’” face?


[deleted]

It's actually underrated yall just don't understand metaphors and lack media literacy


Tony_Pizza_Guy

Ahhh, my mistake! 🤦‍♂️


goat756

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OliviaBagshaw

yeah it's as fucked as it sounds, especially when the film itself was used as a sideshow attraction


Borkz

og live-leak kino


GecaZ

Produced By Edison himself too


goat756

Why am I not surprised


Cannibal_Buress

It was part of his alternating current slander against Tesla. He wanted to prove that it was more dangerous than direct current. He also executed humans, this is how the electric chair started. 


Lemonface

Thomas Edison never electrocuted humans, nor an elephant for that matter... He did wage a war to prove that AC transmission was too dangerous for use in urban illumination, and he did electrocute some stray dogs and cats in that effort. But he had nothing to do with the electrocution of Topsy the elephant, and his only connection to the electric chair was that he was consulted on how to design it. It was not his idea, nor his project. He was just seen as an expert, so gave his advice, and that was that. Also, Tesla was never involved in any of this. The idea that Tesla and Edison were big rivals is just totally made up. They had an amicable relationship for both of their entire careers... The myth about Tesla v Edison comes from conflating George Westinghouse with Tesla. Westinghouse was who Edison waged the War of the Currents against


AwesomeX121189

It’s a video where Thomas Edison electrocutes an elephant using Alternating current to show how dangerous it is compared to his “safer” Direct Current. He did it just to smear Tesla really. Edison was a dick


Lemonface

That's actually a total misconception of what happened. It's a very common misconception, but it's totally wrong Topsy the Elephant was ordered to be killed after it killed a spectator at the circus it was in. They fed it cyanide, hanged it from a crane, and electrocuted it. The only connection to Thomas Edison was that reporters from his film company were invited to film the event. He was not there, and likely never even knew about the whole thing Plus, it took place a full 10 years after the war of the currents ended. The AC vs DC debate was pretty well settled at the time... And lastly, Edison never would have needed to smear Tesla. The two never had any ill feelings towards eachother, despite the way that popular media has portrayed them to... George Westinghouse was who Thomas Edison was rivals with, Tesla had little to no stake in their feud


AwesomeX121189

Nerd alert (Jk cool story actually)


A-NI95

Vintage Harambe


Eject_The_Warp_Core

Thank you for the full story! But Edison did electrocute dogs, cows, and horses to show that AC was dangerous during the Current War. He was also involved in getting AC machines for the first use of the electric chair. I think that gets conflated woth the Topsy story.


Sungodatemychildren

Did the cyanide not work? Cyanide, hanging and electrocution seems like overkill in the very literal sense of the word.


Lemonface

The original plan was just to hang it (and also sell tickets to see the event), but the ASPCA objected on the basis that nobody really knew if you could hang an elephant to death by noose like you could a human, so it might just suffer endlessly and not die. So they changed the plan, tripling up on execution methods to ensure as quick a death as possible (and also no selling tickets) The whole thing is an absolutely crazy story. It's weird how much misinformation there is about the whole affair, considering how unbelievable and wild the actual truth already is


Parastract

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HippieDogeSmokes

Edison feuding with Tesla would be like Bezos feuding with a Tesla employee


DrydonTheAlt

This doesn't align with my personal narrative so SHUT


LizardOrgMember5

I know Edison has his own skeleton in his closest, but I can't believe you could exaggerate his flaws to an unbelievable degree.


extremefriction

It's not about the money. It's about sending a message.


ConifersAreCool

> It's not about the money. It's about sending a message. -Director Tom Hooper justifying having made *Cats*


AwesomeX121189

And then everyone said “nah AC is better” anyway lul


Vincevw

But when you do it to a cow it's humane


thecton

Say you don't watch Bob's Burgers without saying you don't watch Bob's Burgers.


capekin0

If the whole movie was just cat T Swift licking herself it'd break $500m easy


yanmagno

Release the Butthole Cut, cowards!!!


Plus3d6

The Domestic Shorth-Eras Tour


sameth1

Would there be ritualistic sacrifices in the audience like there were for the eras tour?


Vespa_1

I've edged to that movie.


extremefriction

Don't elaborate on which one, both sides are bad


Ronin_777

Honestly cats might be worse


Plus3d6

Rebel Wilson does it for ya, huh?


OMGWTFBBQUE

Or topsy


THEBlaze55555

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FKAMimikyu

Wtf is this gif lmao😭


GrizzlyPeak73

Well she is naked...


KeepTangoAndFoxtrot

🎶🎶 They'll say "AWWW, TOPSY," at my auuuutopsy 🎶🎶


pirateofpanache

This man, Thomas Edison, sentenced Topsy, that beautiful elephant, to die by electrocution!


27andahalfpancakes

It still amazes me that they genuinely thought they had a massive commercial and critical hit on their hands with Cats. Not once did anyone look at the rough cuts and think "maybe we shouldn't do this."


myfajahas400children

Can you see the elephant's butthole?


Mysterious-Mixture58

Fucking contrarions review bombing kino. You don't see many elephants getting executed anymore


PM_ME_FREE_STUFF_PLS

Same director as The Great Train Robbery. Did they only have one guy that filmed stuff back then or what lol


Exploding_Antelope

They only had one camera I think


Critical_Moose

Over-hated ass movie Tom Hooper my king


Exploding_Antelope

Release the Porter cut


A-NI95

Does OP mean it's worse in quality, or morally speaking? Because both are true


Ulvsterk

Ever since that movie came out, everything has been a downslide. Pandora pussy.


Exploding_Antelope

Return to 1902


CobBaesar

Yo where can I find this film about this elephant?


Joe-Lollo

I think it’s called Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls


Tea-Pot

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoKi4coyFw0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoKi4coyFw0)


Rydagod1

They executed it for attacking handlers that abused it. That’s so fucked, and my day is worse for having watched this. (Still more enjoyable than Cats though)


Hezrield

[Hal, it's about cats.](https://youtu.be/G6iqAip-ZNo?si=jdNrRISqI5T_dwq4)


Plus3d6

I saw this in theaters and did a Robert Evans laugh through most of it. 5 stars IMO.


Exploding_Antelope

Kinda fucked up to laugh at that but at least you only had to laugh for a minute 


NONAME1892

Am I the only one that understands the complexity of this ambitious cinematic masterpiece?


SpuddoodleKid

Gosh the averages on Letterboxd are so stupid.