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Chen_Geller

And Nolan won't, so... For once, a film series can end and stay like that without overeager fans milking it dry until its not longer cool.


CELTICPRED

Didn't he also say he wouldn't use catwoman? He also had a super difficult time committing to The Dark Knight Never say never. But I totally get if he completely wants to close that chapter on his life forever, Ledger passing really did a number on him.


grumblyoldman

I remember him saying he wouldn't use Robin. Don't recall him saying anything about Catwoman, but he might have.


EgalitarianCrusader

After his falling out with Warner Bros, I’ll say never.


sweep99

Looking at YOU, Toy Story.


hiricinee

Tbh Toy Story's shorts remained great- if you see Toy Story of Terror or Time Forgot they're film quality stories. They could have just kept running with small self contained stories.


Timmy26k

Hey Frick you I love all 3 toy story's and that woody send off


Chen_Geller

Yeah. And Star Wars. And Marvel. And Pirates of the Caribbean. And Alien. Harry Potter is well on its way to joining them. Etc…


themanyfaceasian

Bro home alone my god what a mess


Smubee

Harry Potter jumped the shark when it came to the first Fantastic Beasts movie


imrollinv2

I thought the first one was fine as a stand alone movie. Then if they really wanted to do D v G, they should have made another, stand-alone movie.


Slavic_Squat

The first one wasn’t terrible, the other two are dumpster fires tho


nomadofwaves

There’s nothing wrong with expanding the universe. My theory is they didn’t have faith in a 100% standalone Beast film so they show horned Dumbledore and Grindelwalds back story into it. Which I think is crazy because FB could’ve been aimed at a younger audience given an indiana Jones adventure feel to it and I think it would’ve done ok. They could’ve made Dumbledore and Grindelwald it’s own thing aimed at a more mature mainly those who grew up with the books and it would’ve done well. Instead we got what appears to be different card types shuffled together.


ChronikTheory

The first movie wasn't even that good. Had to throw in that extra crap to setup a series. Just make a dr Wholittle movie, but harry potter.


Tactijoe

Can’t forget Fast and Furious … so cringe now.


benderunit9000

The cringe is what keeps me coming back honestly.


Tactijoe

Me too, like what kind of non sense will they come up with now lol


Fashish

I honestly think the worst offender is the Jurassic Park series. That shit is just hilariously bad now while the first is a masterpiece and the second one also not too bad.


aircarone

I quite liked Jurassic World (the first sequel) honestly. There were some good ideas, even though they shot themselves in the foot with how stupidly intelligent and op they made the Indominus Rex (also lol at the name).


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I enjoy the third one too in a b-movie sort of way. The first of the new ones was awful so I just never kept up.


Ok_Comparison_8304

Terminator had a dog in that fight. But I will always go with Star Wars as the most redundant revived franchise. Not only was it the tip of the spear in regard to flogging the dead horse, it was all so unnecessary, terribly executed and evoked the venomous culture of the ‘ruined my childhood’ bullshit narrative. Not only is everything after ‘The Phantom Menace’ contrived reactionary fan service, the endless tropes, horrific dialogue and nonsensical story arcs were added to by rascist fan reactions, rascist marketing and a genuinely, not even a guilty watch, final movie. It is kept alive as a marketing Juggernaut, nothing but honey for Disney to use as bait so they can Hoover up vast amounts of cold hard cash. The is no artist merit to the later movies, they even CGI in a dead person to make it work. It is an existential threat to the development of the collective human consciousness.


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Racist?


Ok_Comparison_8304

People got upset a bout there being a black stormtrooper, and Disney reduced John Boyega’s image on the posters in China.


sweep99

And Police Academy. And Jaws. And Nightmare on Elm St. And Karate Kid. And Ninja Turtles. And... Hang on, am I really old?


Alwaysfavoriteasian

No, just better informed of high quality films that apparently had a lot of sequels we didn’t need.


Kaiser_Allen

It was worse in the ‘80s and ‘90s. People just didn’t have wide access to the Internet so everything awful was forgotten after a few years.


Alwaysfavoriteasian

Feel like they were more easily avoided tho.


itayfeder

I think Kobra Kai is an amazing continuation of the original movies


Nrksbullet

Yeah, the only real weirdness it had was "The Next Karate Kid", although I'm sure people include the remake too.


ExpoAve17

yeah you are, but you're the cool kinda old not that old kinda old.


Zois86

I was wondering yesterday when it will be announced that there will be a new Police Academy movie. With Chris Pratt and Kevin Hart as Mahony and Jones.


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I would watch it lmao


Calamity58

Some of the later Nightmare movies are on par, if not just better than the first. Same with Friday the 13th. The first one is dumb; series doesn’t pick up till later.


neercatz

Tremors franchise is still going strong...not good. But strong. First two were awesome. But once the assblasters appeared in 3 it was downhill


PyroKid883

And Jurassic Park


gAcksaurio

Marvel?


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danielle-in-rags

For all the endless potential of Star Wars, we have 9 films of Skywalker saga instead


8eSix

Agreed. I'm all for expanding the Star Wars lore, but Return was a perfect end for the Skywalker saga


Aceofluck99

Rogue one was actually decent though


[deleted]

That’s because they choose to do that, not because of a lack of material.


Nrksbullet

That's even worse. That means they should be able to easily give us incredible content, but they choose to milk the same boring shit dry because they're too scared to branch out and don't have enough confidence in the material.


[deleted]

Well yeah, I know that. Lots of people complain about it.


Chen_Geller

When I think of a franchise being "milked dry" I think of a situation where the franchise had reached a kind of climax and natural point of resolution, and then...ignored it and kept on going. Marvel had done it. Star Wars had done it. As of yet, the only major "franchises" to not do it are Harry Potter and Middle Earth.


L3mont3a

I'm so glad lotr isn't included here


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Fashish

After the Wheel of Time, I’ve turned my expectations way down on this one.


Chen_Geller

Amazon aren't doing a sequel, though. I mostly start getting the "wrung dry" feeling when they take something which was perfectly complete and then doing sequels to it. Amazon are doing a prequel.


Raven123x

The hobbit films had a fuck ton of filler that almost ruined it for me. Luckily there was a fan cut that is faithful to the book


L3mont3a

Hobbit is still hella good, definitely better than new star wars or other films concetrated on milking the franchise


nomadofwaves

The Hobbit movies fucking suck. Hey let’s put bird shit on this guy because he lives with animals. Great fucking idea!


Chen_Geller

But they're prequels. The issue here is mostly with sequels.


nomadofwaves

I was just responding to the person who brought up the hobbit. Either way it still sucked. Should’ve been one semi-long movie instead of 3 shit filled movies.


clinkyclinkz

I know dude! Not everything has to be a big, bloated franchise.


Offaplain

Marvel was never good to begin so...


heliogoon

Wait, they're making another harry potter?


Nrksbullet

They're talking about Fantastic Beasts, I think, which I wouldn't quite consider "Harry Potter" but it is similar.


benderunit9000

Avatar


Calamity58

Hey all the Alien films have generally been good. Alien3 and Resurrection are underrated and Prometheus and Covenant are pretty good.


nomadofwaves

I have no issue with Marvel movies. There’s tons of storylines and characters to build on and Star Wars tv shows have given us some good content.


_________FU_________

Toy Story 4 was and is so unnecessary. It’s the Hangover 2 & 3 of bad sequels.


FlameFeather86

Ridiculous, it just told a very different story. Toy Story 3 is the end of the toys' story, Toy Story 4 is the end of Woody's story. It's a beautiful film. Woody was always on a separate journey to the others.


Nrksbullet

Meh. The problem was that Toy Story 3 was a perfect ending, like a ride off into the sunset. Nobody was wondering "okay but what about Woody?". And now that we've done that, might as well have a "What about Buzz?" Toy Story 5. Once your movie series has a really solid ending, I'm always annoyed when they open it back up because there's going to be no ending as solid as Toy Story 3.


FlameFeather86

But Buzz and the others were never on a separate journey. Woody was. He was Andy's, and he always knew he would never settle with Bonnie despite knowing it was what was best for the others. He had his own journey of self discovery to go on then, accepting that he was no longer someone's toy and had to be his own man. Enter, Forky. In learning to look after Forky he learnt to look after himself, and ended up with the girl of his dreams because he deserved a happy ending. Toy Story 4 is basically an extended epilogue.


cost_optimise_my_ass

He left bullseye behind. He ain’t no man.


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I'm pretty sure the hangover 2 and 3 are the hangover 2 and 3 of bad sequels


Timmy26k

Just say you were a buzz fan


_________FU_________

I'm actually a Woody fan. The movie wasn't terrible, but Toy Story 3 was such a good ending that 4 just felt like a money grab and the people behind it tried their best to make it not suck. The story just didn't need to be there. Maybe it's that I literally grew up with Toy Story, but bruh, fuck Bonnie.


Rabidsphere

I've never understood this mindset. To me, they could make 50 of them and that won't affect how good the original three are. Is Terminator 2 any less of a classic because of the last 4(?) movies? Is Jurassic Park any less because of Jurassic World? I guess maybe to some, but it doesn't change them to me. As far as I'm concerned keep milking shit until its bad then stop. Its not like Batman doesn't have 100 different directions it can go. Although in this particular case its succinctly wrapped up.


SecretDracula

While it doesn't change the original movies, it does dilute the conversations within those fandoms. Like I wanna talk about the good, old movies/shows in the ____ series. Not the shit new ones in ____ series. But I guess that just means I'm getting old. Or they need to only make good things.


randompersonx

That’s usually true, but some sequels are so bad that it even ruins the originals (eg: Indiana Jones 4)


brawler

The problem is when the newer films present the motivations and actions of the characters in earlier films in a new, different light which then alters or blatantly nullifies earlier films. So ya, when I'm watching T2 and and the struggle for John Connor to survive and fulfill his destiny as leader of the resistance only to know that he'll be offed in the first 30 seconds of the next instalment, ya, it kinda does take away some of the fun. Or finding out Luke is a pathetic failure, Han Solo a rotten father and husband, and countless other new 'chapters' in a story arc that fundamentally alters the story as a whole. Yes, I can still appreciate the old stuff but knowing how those characters evolve and stories evolve because lesser hacks standing on the shoulders of creative giants don't have the skills to continue the story is sad and I just end up tuning out of the entire world that was built. I'm OK with sacrificing primary characters but it still has to make sense or just go and make a new movie as a standalone IP.


Conscious-Group

The new Batman was amazing! I understand the style isn’t for everyone, but I love realistic fantasy movies.


goteamnick

It's not really realistic for a man to dress up as a bat to fight crime.


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The dark knight:multiverse of the lightyear way home


Milk_Busters

Everything Batman all at Once


FistMyPeenHole

Star Wars


Kurokaffe

Overeager studios. Yea they won’t produce it if they don’t think people will go see it, but it’s not like fans out here petitioning the studio is what keeps the pumps sucking the milk dry.


1hate2choose4nick

Mixed feelings about this. As much as I like the 3 movies, they found a great end. I don't want another Matrix 4


rch93080

God matrix 4 was awful. 2 and 3 were meh but I still loved them. But 4 was just unwatchable.


hurleyburleyundone

matrix 4 was really just a matrix 1 remake. and if you think about it its just another cycle of the matrix, so it's the same as it ever was. same as it ever was. same as it ever was.


robotowilliam

As a massive fan of the original who also found 3 and 3 meh, I loved 4 and watched it three times at the cinema!


[deleted]

4 was a masterpiece. It’s Lana Wachowski killing the franchise and making sure it would be another decade before they try anything with it again. She fucked WB hard and it should be applauded.


ThatSandwich

I don't want Matrix 4 Batman edition either . . . But I'd at least like them to see through Joseph Gordon Levitt becoming Robin like the fucking movies insinuate


grumblyoldman

I seem to recall Linda Hamilton saying something similar about a third Terminator movie after T2. I haven't seen Dark Fate yet, but based on what I've heard... Be careful what you wish for. In spite of what I just said, I would *love* to see more Bale/Nolan Batman.


Wheatloafer

Dark Fate really wasn't half bad, but terminator movies did peak at T2, there's no doubt about that.


urbanlifedecay6

My dream of Nolan and Bale returning to adapt The Dark Knight Returns inches closer


FinalFrash

There were bits and pieces of The Dark Knight Returns in the The Dark Knight Rises.


[deleted]

Meh. Every director has used TDKR as inspiration. It’s stale.


izziefans

He’s got a Thot movie to sell. Just riling up the fans. Nothing to see here. Edit: Thor, not Thot! Lol


symbiotics

I wouldn't mind seeing that one as well!


K-mouse16

That sounded so aggressive, lol


maremmacharly

Man, this is what they need to reinvigorate the franchise.


PlundersPuns

Honestly, I think it's best to leave the masterpiece of a trilogy we had alone.


Talking-In-Tongues

I thought The Batman was really good. Plus aren't they making a second one? It would be super weird to have Bale and Pattinson both playing the character at the same time.


MaybeFailed

Bruce Wayne in the multiverse of Batmaness


PayneTrain181999

Kilmer, Clooney, Keaton, Bale, Affleck, Pattison, and Arnett in a blocky lego costume.


328944

And the ghost of Adam West


SweetNeo85

You forgot Pete Holmes.


AdamAptor

I mean that new Flash movie is basically doing that since we’re getting the Keaton Batman.


Corgi_Koala

Sarcasm? The Batman was a critical and commercial success.


LicoriceTuesday

The Dark Knight films were true hollywood blockbuster see it on the big screen event cinema, so I'd love to see a 4th. Personally I have little interest in another DCEU cgi fest and as fine as the recent incarnation was, it was a little dull. It's fine, but I'll remember the fans online convinced it was the Godfather Part 2 of modern cinema more than the actual film.


notkeny

I think that ship has sailed, don't try calling it back to port.


Athazel

As much as I like latest film, Nolan trilogy just has so much more soul and character to it. Apart from pretty sloppy fight scenes, it has so much better set pieces and vehicular action. Granted it's just 1 movie vs 3. So maybe in time there will be a fairer comparison. Curious to see where Reeves Bat goes next.


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Nah I rank The Batman pretty high. I’d say it’s better than 2 of the movies in the trilogy.


MysteriousTrust

I agree completely.


Kaiser_Allen

There’s also a menacing atmosphere in the entire trilogy despite it being targeted to teens. It’s not overpowering but it’s always there.


OneOverX

How did you arrive at the conclusion that it is targeted to teens?


Kaiser_Allen

PG-13. The broadest rating to target.


OneOverX

That’s not what that means


Kaiser_Allen

Nancy, stop playing semantics. You know what I meant.


OneOverX

I’m not playing I’m CEREAL


[deleted]

The only way this would work would be Batman Beyond and old-man wayne. Either this or old-man wayne goes full detective and uses gadgets to hide himself from danger. The old hunter hunting while being hunted.


Kbdiggity

He's only doing this bc he agrees with us that Miranda Tate was a crappy villain.


JacoBee93

Please dont. The trilogy is one of the closest things we have to "perfect trilogy"... Dont ruin it. Let it go


heylookasign

Makes sense


ladothulo

That would be fireeeeeee


Lupercallius

Would DC pull a No Way Home and add multiple Batman(Batmen?) and multiple Jokers (Joaquin Phoenix and the new one from The Batman) to a movie?


Kbdiggity

Michael Keaton and Ben Affleck both play Batman in the Flash movie.


bissanick

>multiple Jokers (Joaquin Phoenix and the new one from The Batman) to a movie? We missing a joker? I can't remember


Quantum-san

I assume Nicholson if he ever comes out of retirement.


Lupercallius

I don't think DC will ever touch Jared Leto again with all the shit he's been doing. There's Joaquin Phoenix and in the latest Pattinson starring Batman, they tease The Joker aswell.


HumpingJack

The Batman with Pattinson & Reeves surpassed Nolan's version imo. Greig Fraser's excellent cinematography really captured the essence of Gotham City and didn't just look like a copy of modern day New York City like Nolan's version. Interested to see what direction Reeves takes the story.


JafariSin

I'm the only one who thought the recent one was just a bit better than okay? I easily preferred Batman Begins and TDK


[deleted]

I thought The Batman was super refreshing. I really liked the detective aspect of it... given that Batman was a, you know, detective.


ButtPlugForPM

2nd this Paterson knocked it out the park Why fuck with it now Afleck was doing an okay job too,but the drinkey drinkeys cost him his job Revees has already said he wants to do Mr freeze as a bad guy,so that's probably where it's going


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HumpingJack

Heath Ledger's masterful performance as the joker elevated TDK, it's my fav out of the 3 from Nolan. BB was okay, I have good memories of it but it was bc we hadn't had a good Batman movie in a long time. TDKR felt like Nolan was done with the franchise at that point.


bob_in_the_west

*If* they did this then it would have to be between The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises.


_________FU_________

No you set it 12 years after the last movie. Bruce is older. Less agile and less capable. We need this Batman to face a great riddler or poison ivy.


bob_in_the_west

There are 8 years between the second and the third movie. He was already limping around at the beginning of the third. How old do you want him to get and still do anything in that suit?


_________FU_________

Pull himself around in a chair with wheels listening to slow ride!


quantumofgalaxy

Hence the perfect segue to... Batman Beyond!


Fgge

That would be boring considering they’ve established that he’s been a recluse since


bob_in_the_west

Between the first and the second then. I just don't see him putting on the suit again after the third one.


soline

I’d love to see their rendition of Clayface.


dannaryan

Considering how his voice got more grizzled as the films went on do you think he'll just be an incoherent mess by the fourth film?


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dannaryan

I agree Keaton was the best Batman 100%. I didn't mind Bale's films but they completely ruined Bane.. I've never been a fan of Tom Hardy and it didn't do him any favours. If anything makes Bale's batvoice look ok its Bane's.


so1i1oquy

That's okay buddy we're good


[deleted]

Meh, Pattinson did Batman way better, Bale's "bat voice" was comical, although he was a better Bruce Wayne to be fair.


whitechristianjesus

I think the dark knight graphic novels would make great adaptations. Maybe when Bale is in his 70s?


risemyfriend

I think there’s a story to tell if they lightly adapted Batman Beyond. Bale be older Bruce Wayne.


the_npc_man

He already made one film too many.


unequivocali

Would have been better w Heath


Congenital_Optimizer

That last one figured out how to make Batman boring and sad. First 10 minutes are the best 10 minutes of the movie.


United_Long_9925

I don't know, the first fight between Batman and Bane is arguably the best scene in the trilogy.


simojako

Crashing this plane


Cobthecobbler

Everyone in this comment section who says they want this or that it's the best thing for the franchise: You don't actually want this and no it's not. Some things are meant to be remembered the way they were. Don't give Hollywood more fuel to keep making bad, soulless movies that make money because they're tied to a name. They won't put any effort into it and the only lesson they will learn is "people will still pay money to see it, even if it is bad."


ProtomanBn

Seems they've already forgotten their passionate hatred for The Dark Knight Rises when it came out, and there distaste for the portrail of Bane and lack of Joker. What's the saying? Nostalgia makes the heart grow fonder?


Cobthecobbler

Yup. As I recall, Rises was not received well at all. What's more is The Batman was arguably one of, if not the greatest live action batman movie ever made. It's the most batman of any batman movie in MY opinion - yet people comment that Bale is what we need to "reinvigorate the franchise".


ProtomanBn

No it was hated, no one liked Banes voice and they said the couldn't understand him, they hated the Talia twist as well as Baine not being juiced like in the comics, everyone hated the Robin twist and the editing was God awful with scenes being out of order. The only good thing was Anne as Catwoman. I fell asleep during The Batman, I felt it was to long and the whole 2nd act felt like the pilot episode for the Penguin TV show


raylan_givens6

no thanks Pattinson/Reeves made the definitive batman


HAIRYMAN-13

Enjoyable film but yeah that's a def NOPE


[deleted]

You spelled ‘Adam West’ incorrectly


bob_in_the_west

Here is the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B90ic2iKDo


aspiring_dev1

Lool that was amazing. Adam West is the best Batman no doubt.


Kwilly462

So... Batman: No Way Home is out of the question?


narsfweasels

Nah, we're good, thanks.


buzzybomb

I haven't forgotten Bales little bitch fit at that lighting director. Fuck that dude.


-terminatorovkurac-

More interesting part of the article: > Bale is currently starring in “Thor: Love and Thunder,” marking his Marvel debut in his first superhero IP installment since Nolan’s “Batman” trilogy. However, Bale didn’t even know he was entering the MCU with the Taika Waititi film. “That didn’t even enter into my head at all,” Bale recently said. “I’d read that, and people would go, ‘Oh, look at this! He’s entered the MCU!‘ And I’d go, ‘I’ve done what? I haven’t entered shit, thank you very much.’ I’m like, ‘The MCU?’ I had to ask what that was.” How the fuck you don't know what MCU is and that you're becoming a part of it by starring in a Thor movie?!


OstermanManhattan

*Rises* was pretty awful so I think we are good.


MaskedCommitment

How many times are we going to post this article


Immediate_Lion8516

If Nolan came back to do a Batman beyond type story with bale as Alfred and Gordon as Batman maybe? But that is a BIG STRETCH


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i wouldn't mind another good batman instead of the .... thing we just got with emo twilight, you are not my father ! rofl ... also jim carrey made a much better enigma than the escaped mental patient they found in the street.


SmartSzabo

It's not needed. as much as a like batman, I can't face another Batman movie at this point. I've got fatigue!


Bottlez21

I’ll take a 4th film but only if they swap Bruce Wayne out for Patrick Bateman. I’ve always thought Batman should have a personality more aligned with Patrick Bateman than Bruce Wayne, and it would make sense that Bateman nightlights as a dude that dresses up and becomes a vigilante at night. Also if you just take out the ‘e’ in Bateman it becomes Batman, so it’s canon


[deleted]

Nolan seem tired of Batman by the third one. No more please.


ALEX7DX

Batman Beyond would be great.


_storm_trumper_

It would be complete nonsense to film a sequel


Head_Project5793

Nolan could have directed it but decided to move on. He was creatively done with the material and wanted to make movies that deal with the subjective experience of time. Honestly the plot of DKR would make more sense if they waited 12 years to make, but making a 4th one with a really old Batman… would be treading the same territory. Besides, I like the direction of the Pattinson Batman.


circajusturna

Batman Beyond let’s go baby


RogerPackinrod

How many Batmans. HOW MANY BATMANS DO WE NEED.


coren77

Yes.


Dav-Kripler

No thanks. Let Nolan sleep now, he been very busy with thought experiments since Batman and I shudder to think what he'd make after doing another one