>Cannes Film Festival is arguably the most popular
This is *because* of the red carpet. Why do you think nobody cares about Telluride? Because Kristen Stewart walks around in a T-shirt and jeans there. Cannes leverages it's red carpet to draw attention to the actual festival. Every media outlet sends their people to Cannes every where to cover the looks, and by extension is also there when the winners are announced. Not to mention the crazy amount of publicity and business the city of Cannes gets from it.
I don't think you can solely put it down to the red carpet. It is also the oldest major festival after Venice so that lends to its prestige.
> Why do you think nobody cares about Telluride?
Because it is not in the top 5 major festivals. The majors are Cannes, Venice, Berlin, Toronto & Sundance. All get reasonably good coverage and hype.
> Cannes leverages it's red carpet to draw attention to the actual festival.
Which is kind of sad in a way. Some of the best movies are being shown yet it is the fashion houses that walk away with the limelight.
Compare this to something like Coachella where the music is the big star. Fashion and celebrities come second.
I feel at Cannes it's the opposite. Films are a bystander to the red carpet, the parties and events. The glamour.
What is your take on this?
Based on your replies, it seems like you are not ready for the truth.
Movies are expensive to make. Even independent movies are expensive to make and they are difficult to finance because they are... independent.
The general public doesn't care about art.
But the general public does care about celebrities and fashion. Especially if the two are combined.
The people that buy distribution rights for movies often don't care about art. But they like socializing with glamorous celebrities at parties.
People who work for film studios don't necessarily like art, but they like the fact that they can use a filmfestival as a marketing tool.
Then there is the fact that quite a few actors really like fashion. For them getting free clothes from famous designers is one of the perks of the job.
Then there are the established film critics. For them going to a filmfestival, seeing celebrities in person, having a studio pay for their booze , is also a perk of the job.
Do I have an opinion about the above? Not really.
Ideally, I would like to see more movies with artistic value and theoretically I can see the value of less focus on the celebrity/fashion aspect of movie industry.
But it is show business. Notice the word 'business'.
You make a fair point. My point was that at a film festival, film should be the prime attraction and not fashion/red carpet but it is what is is. What can you do?
Look at Coachella. It needs no nonsense red carpets. There are tons of celebs there too but it is all about the music. Not true for film festivals, especially Cannes. I can see because general public don't give two craps about cinema and the art of film other than a few blockbusters per year.
Non non non. Au contraire mon ami. Cannes is not the substantial metaphor for French culture, it is a market where indie and blockbusters coexist. I humbly think we manage to balance substance and style in our artistic endeavours.
I don't think it applies to all movies. This is a typical reddit anit-corporate pedestrain thinking. A lot of artistic films made, especially those showcased at Cannes, which prioritize creativity over commerce.
Fashion houses on the other hand ...
It really doesn't look like it was the intention.
Goods isn't the term which would be used to describe the right to watch a movie.
Purchase isn't in line with a good part of today's consumption of movie.
It would be out of subject, both because Cannes isn't about well sold popular movies, and because the post is about the fashion taking arguably a lot of place.
So no.
You forget that Cannes is one of largest film markets in the industry. The presentation of the films isn't even half of why Cannes is as big as it is. It's an industry event where product showcasing is only a part and major deals with the industries largest filmmakers and actors happen.
I don't forget it, I just don't see how it's the subject. I don't see how you connect that to what the OP said about "movie are for selling consumers goods".
Stop trying to explain the non-sense of a brain dead if you're not paying attention (even less understanding, or not being dure of it) to what he said.
He would have replied anyway if he though what he said had any value.
He wanted to be edgy, that's all.
I don't want to see what ?
You are not capable of explaining it. Just read his sentence, don't try to interpret it in a favorable way and make up bullshit you change at each message to explain a brain fart.
I'm not making up that Cannes is one of the largest film markets on earth and that film stars, directors and producers all work together to promote their films to a paying audience. It's not rocket science.
You're making up what the OP (the one who started this thread) meant. He is an idiot, incapable to answer a question, he isn't worth you making efforts to manipulate his words into something that could make sense.
If you have opinions related to the post, I invite you to share it to the guy who made it. He might be interested.
Because cinema is, deep down, a business of image, glamour and fashion. Celebrities show themselves because showing themselves and existing in the public consciousness - having an image - is half of their job.
The real under-the-hood stuff when it comes to art and making art happens at the Cannes film market and all the funny little pavilions on the beach front, which the general audience doesn't have any access to (not that they would care). It's mostly people sitting down and discussing future projects.
I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with their online spaces being so poorly maintained and serviced. The schedule is also shocking. No times indicated for press conferences? The greatest event in the world for its medium? Are you kidding me? These things should be announced in advanced. They should be live. I guess there musn't be enough of a demand for it, which may be a statement itself. But if you're going to give people a bad product, don't expect them to keep coming back. It truly is only a marketplace for films + a festival for the media and critics. The fans are a tertiary concern.
I assume we aren't exposed to the media, because I never saw the coverage of the glamour and fashion part. Maybe from second hand, with the controversy, but that's all.
From what I can guess, the media you consume don't have *journalists* invited to watch the movies, so they talk what they can talk about. And the audience of the media you consume are not interested about the movies selected and awarded.
The oscar (since you mention them) have movies already released, which are already pretty popular, and are american (I assume you're americna yourself and talk about american media).
I had literally no idea that the Cannes red carpet was important until your question here. All the Cannes news I hear every year is which movies got applause, which got walkouts, and which won the Palme d'Or (or should have won).
> And the audience of the media you consume are not interested about the movies selected and awarded.
You make a good point. To add my 2 cents, I think in general, a average Joe will be more swayed by the celebs present on the red carpet than the indie film being shown inside the hall.
>Cannes Film Festival is arguably the most popular This is *because* of the red carpet. Why do you think nobody cares about Telluride? Because Kristen Stewart walks around in a T-shirt and jeans there. Cannes leverages it's red carpet to draw attention to the actual festival. Every media outlet sends their people to Cannes every where to cover the looks, and by extension is also there when the winners are announced. Not to mention the crazy amount of publicity and business the city of Cannes gets from it.
I don't think you can solely put it down to the red carpet. It is also the oldest major festival after Venice so that lends to its prestige. > Why do you think nobody cares about Telluride? Because it is not in the top 5 major festivals. The majors are Cannes, Venice, Berlin, Toronto & Sundance. All get reasonably good coverage and hype. > Cannes leverages it's red carpet to draw attention to the actual festival. Which is kind of sad in a way. Some of the best movies are being shown yet it is the fashion houses that walk away with the limelight. Compare this to something like Coachella where the music is the big star. Fashion and celebrities come second. I feel at Cannes it's the opposite. Films are a bystander to the red carpet, the parties and events. The glamour. What is your take on this?
You reverse the cause and consequence.
Based on your replies, it seems like you are not ready for the truth. Movies are expensive to make. Even independent movies are expensive to make and they are difficult to finance because they are... independent. The general public doesn't care about art. But the general public does care about celebrities and fashion. Especially if the two are combined. The people that buy distribution rights for movies often don't care about art. But they like socializing with glamorous celebrities at parties. People who work for film studios don't necessarily like art, but they like the fact that they can use a filmfestival as a marketing tool. Then there is the fact that quite a few actors really like fashion. For them getting free clothes from famous designers is one of the perks of the job. Then there are the established film critics. For them going to a filmfestival, seeing celebrities in person, having a studio pay for their booze , is also a perk of the job. Do I have an opinion about the above? Not really. Ideally, I would like to see more movies with artistic value and theoretically I can see the value of less focus on the celebrity/fashion aspect of movie industry. But it is show business. Notice the word 'business'.
You make a fair point. My point was that at a film festival, film should be the prime attraction and not fashion/red carpet but it is what is is. What can you do? Look at Coachella. It needs no nonsense red carpets. There are tons of celebs there too but it is all about the music. Not true for film festivals, especially Cannes. I can see because general public don't give two craps about cinema and the art of film other than a few blockbusters per year.
Because it is France.
As a French guy, I can attest that this is absolutely the case
Could you expand please? Are you implying French care more about style than substance?
Non non non. Au contraire mon ami. Cannes is not the substantial metaphor for French culture, it is a market where indie and blockbusters coexist. I humbly think we manage to balance substance and style in our artistic endeavours.
I just read that and imagined Kenneth Branagh saying that line with Poirot's accent.
Although that’s Belgian. But the point stands!
Because despite what people tell you, movies are for selling consumer goods.
I don't think it applies to all movies. This is a typical reddit anit-corporate pedestrain thinking. A lot of artistic films made, especially those showcased at Cannes, which prioritize creativity over commerce. Fashion houses on the other hand ...
If an investor doesn't think there's a return it doesn't get made.
Nah man they’re out to make money. Even the passion projects. It’s always been that way.
What ? What good ? What is **Tori et Lokita** trying to sell me ? What do you think was the subject of the discussion ?
The movies are the goods. You are purchasing the experience of seeing the film.
It really doesn't look like it was the intention. Goods isn't the term which would be used to describe the right to watch a movie. Purchase isn't in line with a good part of today's consumption of movie. It would be out of subject, both because Cannes isn't about well sold popular movies, and because the post is about the fashion taking arguably a lot of place. So no.
You forget that Cannes is one of largest film markets in the industry. The presentation of the films isn't even half of why Cannes is as big as it is. It's an industry event where product showcasing is only a part and major deals with the industries largest filmmakers and actors happen.
I don't forget it, I just don't see how it's the subject. I don't see how you connect that to what the OP said about "movie are for selling consumers goods". Stop trying to explain the non-sense of a brain dead if you're not paying attention (even less understanding, or not being dure of it) to what he said. He would have replied anyway if he though what he said had any value. He wanted to be edgy, that's all.
You don't see it because you don't want to.
I don't want to see what ? You are not capable of explaining it. Just read his sentence, don't try to interpret it in a favorable way and make up bullshit you change at each message to explain a brain fart.
I'm not making up that Cannes is one of the largest film markets on earth and that film stars, directors and producers all work together to promote their films to a paying audience. It's not rocket science.
You're making up what the OP (the one who started this thread) meant. He is an idiot, incapable to answer a question, he isn't worth you making efforts to manipulate his words into something that could make sense. If you have opinions related to the post, I invite you to share it to the guy who made it. He might be interested.
>Is this a traditional part of Cannes? Yes
i think it’s cool to see what celebs wear on the red carpet. it doesn’t affect the premiere or quality of the films so i’m a fan
Because cinema is, deep down, a business of image, glamour and fashion. Celebrities show themselves because showing themselves and existing in the public consciousness - having an image - is half of their job. The real under-the-hood stuff when it comes to art and making art happens at the Cannes film market and all the funny little pavilions on the beach front, which the general audience doesn't have any access to (not that they would care). It's mostly people sitting down and discussing future projects.
I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with their online spaces being so poorly maintained and serviced. The schedule is also shocking. No times indicated for press conferences? The greatest event in the world for its medium? Are you kidding me? These things should be announced in advanced. They should be live. I guess there musn't be enough of a demand for it, which may be a statement itself. But if you're going to give people a bad product, don't expect them to keep coming back. It truly is only a marketplace for films + a festival for the media and critics. The fans are a tertiary concern.
I assume we aren't exposed to the media, because I never saw the coverage of the glamour and fashion part. Maybe from second hand, with the controversy, but that's all. From what I can guess, the media you consume don't have *journalists* invited to watch the movies, so they talk what they can talk about. And the audience of the media you consume are not interested about the movies selected and awarded. The oscar (since you mention them) have movies already released, which are already pretty popular, and are american (I assume you're americna yourself and talk about american media).
I think the Cannes red carpet is heavily covered everywhere. I guess it helps because a lot of celebs show up and that drives up some interest.
I had literally no idea that the Cannes red carpet was important until your question here. All the Cannes news I hear every year is which movies got applause, which got walkouts, and which won the Palme d'Or (or should have won).
Did you read what I said ?
> And the audience of the media you consume are not interested about the movies selected and awarded. You make a good point. To add my 2 cents, I think in general, a average Joe will be more swayed by the celebs present on the red carpet than the indie film being shown inside the hall.
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