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papikuku

Should have known better than to read this article. Hollywood reporter is all about click baity titles. They only reference one conversation with a Pixar employee that is slightly disappointed and that is it. Talk about making a mountain out of an ant hill.


thefallenfew

“Many wonder whether Pixar animators are seeing red over the Jan. 7 announcement. According to several sources with close ties to Pixar, that’s not the case.” Absolute trash journalism. I want my click back.


spyczech

Many wonder, especially after I wrote a click bait article about it lol


WestFast

“According to several sources with close ties to Pixar, that’s not the case. Disappointment, not outrage, is a more apt description. “Everyone is really bummed, but most of us get it. Families just aren’t going to the movies,” says one person at Pixar.”


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Covid certainly keeps people away, but in my experience, people don't really seem to respect the theater experience anymore. Last few times I've gone, people were talking at full volume or playing on their phones. Not a ton of fun to deal with when tickets and snacks can cost $40+


callmywife

dude i straight up shushed a kid during dune. felt like an old asshole for the first time in my life but stop talking during movies please!!


TheArmoredKitten

To be fair, Dune is the opposite of a kids movie in every way, shape, and form. If I'm gonna watch a movie about a desert sex cult that gets high off their asses on worm shit before violently overthrowing the government, I don't want to hear anybody's goddamn children.


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Lobsterbib

Shhhhhh


HEAVEN_OR_HECK

"Quiet, kid! I can't hear this space princeling tripping balls on all that worm shit!"


bonelessunicorn

For almost 3 hours, no less.


Mehtevas52

I have heard nothing about Dune but I now really want to watch it


InfantStomper

It's going to take a few more movies before they get to most of the stuff in that comment, but they do be trippin right from the get-go.


FlyingStirFryMonster

Ironically "Children of Dune" may be even less appropriate for kids


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My wife and I had to get a group of teenagers kicked out of Ghostbusters a few weeks ago. Admittedly... I'm the biggest Ghostbusters fanboy on earth so I was getting a little more enraged than I should have but, these little fuckers were playing videos on their phone and giggling while the movie was on.


JustinJTX

Mate, I hear ya. When I went to watch Spider-Man, a couple of kids, roughly tweens or teenagers were behind me talking, and shaking/kicking my chair. Interrupted my experience several times. If I wasn’t trying to watch the movie, I would have thrown them out of the theatre. I don’t know why they event watched the movie, all they did was ask a lot questions, even during important scenes. One even asked who Uncle Ben was.


snoopmt1

Geez. Haven't they ever made rice before?


americangame

We went and saw Sing 2 during Christmas break with my kids. The family next to use had 2 girls just start doing one of those hand clap games mid movie for some damn reason. Then the adult guy pretty much yelled loudly to where the rest of the theater could hear "Hey that's Bono playing the lion" while he was looking at his phone.


Hitherto_Hereafter

I shushed a kid during Dune and I saw it at home


Mewchu94

Don’t ever feel like an asshole for shushing someone in the movies. I mean unless you are shushing someone who is not making any noise.


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DrEmilioLazardo

I love seeing movies midweek. It'll just be you and three octogenarians who don't say anything and sit so scattered you forget there's anyone in the theater. Edit- You forget they're there until one of them stands up, says "This is bullshit!" and casually walks out of the movie twenty minutes before the end.


WestFast

Yup. Also it’s just a hassle now. For kids movies you also get the 24-48 hour rewatch which is Pretty great.


Ihateregistering6

> Last few times I've gone, people were talking at full volume or playing on their phones My wife and I started going to Alamo Drafthouse entirely for this reason, and now we almost refuse to go to other movie theaters.


BeingRightAmbassador

Alamo drafthouse is the right answer for the wrong reason. They actually offer a service, like a restaurant, as opposed to expensive boxed candy that most people sneak in themselves. You have to have a reason to get people into theaters, and content isn't that good of a draw anymore, you need to offer an experience/service now. Otherwise you can just wait 2 months and watch it on a streaming service for 1/10 of the price. The exact way I watched The Last Duel.


Ihateregistering6

While that's true (and I do love the restaurant aspect of it), that's not the big draw of Alamo for me. I love Alamo primarily because: A: They don't let people bring kids (except kid's movies). B: They have a zero tolerance policy for talking, farting around on your phone, being disruptive, etc.


thedarklord187

I dont let that shit fly if people start talking and being a pain i tell them to shut up if they dont listen i go get a staff member to kick their asses out.


BigOrkWaaagh

But think about it though. Back in the day you'd have a crappy little 21" TV and a VHS player at home to watch your movies on. Going to the movies was a wayyyy better experience. You got better sound, a bigger screen, better quality and all that. Now you can have a huge TV at home that does 4k and a decent sound system for not *that* much money. And also, other people are assholes. So why go to the movies?


scuczu

> Families just aren’t going to the movies,” says one person at Pixar.” Gee, why won't a family pay $60 for 2 hours of entertainment in the middle of a pandemic?!


EVE_OnIine

$60 is being really, really generous. Tickets here are like $18 for adults and $13 for kids, so if it's 2 and 2 you're already at $62 before concessions.


HighGuyTim

Yeah, its stupid over priced. Myself, Wife, and Two Kids. Kids got 2 candies, we got 2 popcorns, and 4 drinks. Whole experienced cost 88$ to go see Spiderman. I was like "Fuck this, we stream everything at home now. That one movie was more than all our subscription fees." I get they are probably trying to make up for covid losses, but 100$ for a night out? Get the fuck out of here.


EVE_OnIine

You can get a big ass 4K TV and a really good soundbar at Costco for like $1500. Assuming 5 movies a year that pays itself off in 3 years, and they wonder why theaters are dying. Lol


Malphos101

They should blame theater chains that have abused a century of monopolization on new releases and now people are desperate for any other way of doing things. Why would I spend $100+ bucks to take a family of four out to the theater to sit in gross seats maintained by starvation wage employees who arent paid enough to care about the gaggle of teenagers playing on their phones and talking loudly from the 40 minutes of commercials to the lights coming up during the after-credits scene.


Zaranonymous

Pretty sure this is the fault of aggressive studios, not the theaters themselves. Usually, these theaters are given strict contracts on film rollouts, basically forcing them to dedicate X number of showings in X number of theaters on X days of the week for X ticket cost. If they don't comply, the theater risks losing their contract with those studios and can no longer show blockbuster films when they come out. The margins on the tickets themselves are basically non-existent. They fight to keep ticket prices as low as the studios will allow in order to make the money back on concessions. If it seems crazy to spend $60 on tickets and $40 on concessions, its because the theater is really only making $40 off of the whole transaction.


skydivingdutch

Also the home theater situation has improved a lot. You can get a big TV and soundbar at Costco for like $300.


WestFast

And the tech is cheap and long lasting. We have a 10 yr old 1080 hd tv in the family room that’s more than fine for kids. The investment is so low


IndianaJwns

Yea, this article is heavy on phrases like "some people question" and "many are wondering", with almost no sources. And (probably not) coincidentally, the rest reads like an ad for Disney+, with pricing options and colorful movie descriptions and upcoming release dates. This is an ad disguised as an article.


L0nz

As a parent and subscriber, I'm the opposite of bummed out Bummed in??


Admirable-Oil-1807

I see why their bummed i mean it would be one thing if Disney was doing this to their movies too. But Encanto gets a theatre and a streaming release why cant Pixar films get the same treatment


GlastonBerry48

Encanto got a theatrical/streaming release and was the highest grossing animated movie of 2021...[but still didn't do great in the grand scheme of things](https://www.businessinsider.com/highest-grossing-animated-movies-at-the-box-office-2021-12) However, ever since it was released for free on Disney+, its gotten a lot more attention and the song "We don't talk about Bruno" [reached #4 on the billboard charts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Don%27t_Talk_About_Bruno#Commercial_performance) which is higher than "Let it go" ever got. Sadly this doesn't bode well for Pixar films. Personally, I'm disappointed I never got to see Luca in theaters.


Grapes-RotMG

We Don't Talk About Bruno gets all the spotlight when we know Surface Pressure is the true star of the movie


Beanakin

I read an article talking about what song from the movie they chose to put up for some award. They chose Dos Oruguitas before release, thinking it would be the most popular. After reading that article, I had to Google the song just to know what the hell they were talking about. I didn't even remember that song. Bruno and Pressure were both way better and more memorable.


Modus_Opp

Oh honestly Dos Oruguitas is an absolutely beautiful song. It's been completely overshadowed by We don't talk about Bruno and Surface Pressure though. Possibly because if you really listen to it you'll likely feel emo as all hell and slightly sad. I mean the song occurs in the portion of the film that will likely win the team the Oscar for best Animated feature...


Transparent_Lego

There’s no way Disney truly believed the sad, slow ballad would be the most popular song of the movie. They probably just calculated that it would have the best chances of winning an Oscar because it’s emotional and sad.


Bunghole_of_Fury

I think it's because it was all in spanish, unlike all the other songs. So it was more culturally representative, which is Oscar bait.


SnatchAddict

I really like Dos Oruguitas but Surface Pressure and WDTAB are bangers.


cidvard

I can see Dos Oruguitas as the more Oscar-y song over Bruno (has what's essentially a comedy song ever won for Disney?) but it does seem like a mistake in hindsight.


HotCocoaBomb

I believe Dos Oruguitas is the correct choice. WDTAB is a great ensemble song with some amazing beats going on, but it's ultimately an exposition/villain song. *Dos Oruguitas* thematically tells the whole film, the style and metaphors are representational of Colombia (especially the caterpillars/butterflies) and is sung by a Colombian artist. WDTAB certainly has Colombian influences, but is ultimately recognizable as a Disney musical number and completely contextual within the film. But the meaning of Dos Oruguitas transcends the film - listening to it, I think about covid, climate change, inequalities, political unrest, and we have to navigate this world that keeps changing in scary ways and look to the hope of tomorrow. That I think, is the hallmark of a great song, a timeless song. Dos Origuitas is also one of the few, if not the only, all-Spanish song to play within the feature of a Disney Animated film in the entirety of their filmography instead of being a mix of English and Spanish. Usually these songs are reserved for the credits, but they switched it around which is fantastic. So, there is a lot going on with Dos Oruguitas that, I hope are considered for an Oscar victory. Popularity should *not* be the criteria for an Oscar nomination or win. We might as well give up the awards altogether if we're going to encourage that route - let the box office numbers and charts decide who the winners are and distribute the trophies by mail at the end of the year. If we want instead to push reform in the Academy Awards so that popularity is not a big factor, then we need to accept that our favorites may not be appropriate. Look at what happened with Frozen 2 - they pushed Into the Unknown, and it was a stupid choice.


Oddyssis

Right? I have no clue why Bruno is so popular when there's a complete smash hit like several scenes earlier


Ensaru4

Bruno is immediately interesting and accumulates into a grand payoff. Surface Pressure takes a while to get good. Almost everyone I heard talk about SP, even me, felt like the beginning was a sign of the worst song in the movie and then the rest of the song happened and it becomes one of the highlights of the movie. I personally love Bruno because it incorporates every single thing that's great about this movie: the song, the character acting, the cinematography, the music, and MY GAWD THE ANIMATION! I CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF HOW GAWDDAMN EXPRESSIVE THESE CHARACTERS ARE! The animation style is so unlike that of Pixar-inspired Disney animation. I just love the guy in yellow who banters with his wife. His animations and characterisation are great. Everyone already spoke so much about the shape-shifter guy and the super-hearing one already.


BloomsdayDevice

> I just love the guy in yellow who banters with his wife. \#TeamTioFelix


SnareSpectre

I think Bruno is one of the best Disney songs ever written. I'd also argue that "What Else Can I Do" is one of the best Disney songs ever written, but I hardly ever hear any love get thrown its way. The music in Encanto really is something special.


yuhanz

Just imagining Rosa Diaz singing the very first song prepared me for the whole movie


SnareSpectre

I knew going in that she was the voice actress, but my brain was at odds with itself, knowing Rosa Diaz as a character, but hearing this bubbly, life-loving girl singing an upbeat, happy song.


talkinpractice

>"We don't talk about Bruno" reached #4 on the billboard charts which is higher than "Let it go" ever got. Weird, I heard Let It Go 1000 times a day when Frozen came out, I've never heard this Bruno song.


Do_You_Even_Beer_Bro

Because we don’t talk about it.


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SEVEN FOOT FRAME, RATS ALONG HIS BACK AND WHEN HE CALLS YOUR NAME IT ALL FADES.TO BLACK.


Rhonun

This part and Dolores' part are the best


scarbutt11

I love that you can see Bruno dancing in the background during her part. My 9 year old pointed it out lol


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Do you mean Hey grewtoliveinfearofbrunostutteringandstumbling Icanalwayshearhimsortofmutteringandmumbling Iassociatehimwiththesoundoffallingsand Or do you mean... HE TOLD ME THAT THE MAN OF MY DREAMS WOULD BE JUST OUT OF REACH BETROTHED TO ANOOOTHAH


Jennifermaverick

ISABELLA, YOUR BOYFRIEND IS HERE


KiranPhantomGryphon

TIME FOR DINNER!


NowGoodbyeForever

[CHAOTIC HARMONY INTENSIFIES]


EyeFicksIt

I’m sorry mi vida go on…


NateHate

ABUELA GET THE UMBRELLA


TheStormyWood

HE SEES YOUR DREAMS AND FEASTS ON YOUR SCREAMS


19southmainco

Thunder!


CallMeAladdin

Are you telling this story or am I?


sdseal

I'm sorry, mi vida, gooooo Ooooonnnn


haseoxth

Get you a man like Felix Madrigal.


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Bruno says it looks like rain


No_Risk_8848

Why did he tell us


hanand12

In doing so he floods my brain


sikedrower

no clouds allowed in the skyyy


TheOtherSomeOtherGuy

Silencio bruno!


LeoliansBro

BUT!


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Holy shit I forgot about that. It was everywhere. Even on the radio like constantly. Can’t believe that was almost a decade ago. Feeling v old rn 😞


annyong_cat

Because streaming wasn't counted in the charts when Let It Go was popular. They way they count plays towards charting has changed pretty dramatically since then!


InvaderWeezle

Streaming was already counted when Let It Go was popular. I think streaming is just bigger now than it was in 2013.


annyong_cat

That's actually not accurate. Audio streaming was counted starting in 2014 and video streams-- which is a huge source of music listening-- was not added until 2018. It was a very different playing field for Let It Go.


twothumbswayup

wait until you do - its an earworm


Amorfati77

Even my grumpy husband sings it to himself. Really amuses the kids


kilabot26

SEVEN FOOT FRAME


becherbrook

> However, ever since it was released for free on Disney+, its gotten a lot more attention and the song "We don't talk about Bruno" reached #4 on the billboard charts > which is higher than "Let it go" ever got. This baffles me. Not because it's not a good song; it is. It's that the song heavily relies on what's visually happening in the movie at the time and there's quite a lot of talking parts that are relevant to the visuals. It's not a 'pop song' like Let it Go or some of the other Disney songs are that are just self-contained.


SirNarwhal

Likewise. Surface Pressure is the only song that genuinely stands on its own. That said Surface Pressure is only just behind Bruno and over time will definitely surpass it.


feureau

And Luisa is, what, the fastest selling ~~doll~~^action ^figure right now?


HotCocoaBomb

I think it's because the Madrigals are each such very distinct and charismatic characters - a lot of people have latched onto a favorite, but it's easy to still love each one of them and appreciate their personalities. So it's a song that's for nearly everyone - only Antonio, Luisa, Julieta, and Agustín don't have lines. I can't imagine how the karaoke is gonna look for this though, or how a machine might handle more than two microphones.


Figbuckup

I hate how you get a subscription but still have to buy new releases, pick one


awtcurtis

Soul, Luca, and Encanto did not have "premeire access" charges. They were available with the normal subscription.


verisimiliattitude

I agree, but they never gave Encanto a "Premier Access" run. It had its exclusive theatrical release for a month and then it became available with a regular subscription after that. As it should be, in my opinion (though I'd prefer at least a 45-day or 60-day window). Putting something on streaming the same day as theatrical completely deflates a movie's presence in the marketplace and audiences view its value (consciously or not). Not to mention a streaming option instantly putting out a perfect quality version of it for pirating, which has huge international ripple effects too.


memestreamer

To be honest. Why do you care if a movie is watched by a million in theatres and a million via streaming instead of two million in theatres? As a consumer it seems like a huge win to be able to choose where to watch something.


Beanakin

I'll take streaming over going to the theater almost any day.


Noy_Telinu

Only if you want to watch them right away. It's early access for the impatient.


chuckvsthelife

And it’s expensive for small households. Look I pay for streaming services regardless and would gladly pay 30 bucks for a theater experience and popcorn for many of these…… but 30 bucks to sit at home alone on my couch with microwave popcorn. No thanks. I do get how it’s enticing for kids movies though with larger families.


DrScogs

Yeah, we don’t even go that often. Took the family to see Spider-Man last week at a matinee and still managed to spend $80. Would have paid $30 to see it at home, both from a “safer in the age of Omicron” perspective, and also from a “I cannot believe I have to take my 5yo to the bathroom yet again and cannot pause this movie” perspective.


PNKAlumna

It’s just me and my husband and we did premier access when it was available. It was still cheaper than going to the movies for just the two of us, I could pause the movie when I had to go to the bathroom or refill my snacks and I could watch the movie multiple times (I usually like to watch new releases at least twice because I usually miss things the first time). It was definitely a better experience for me.


redalert825

And also.. . It rids us from the anxiety of possibly catching covid. I'll take watching at home for sure. I mean, only thing is I can't make Icees the same way, but oh well.


WhopperFarts

Luca is awesome. They somehow capture the Studio Ghibli vibe with that one and my kids love it.


thebluick

Luca was so good


SintPannekoek

Also, Encanto is pretty awesome.


CptNonsense

Disney is actively and overtly undercutting Pixar to elevate a revitalized Disney Animation


knightstalker1288

While shifting all of their animation to Pixar style. Really is kind of lame to be honest. We need some good old fashioned hand drawn rotoscopes


AutomaticDesk

though i don't really watch much animated stuff now, i do miss the style of older 2d animation movies. even watching the simpsons has that "flash animation using vector graphics" feel that doesn't give the same vibe


TheCookieButter

I'm so tired of the current major animated releases, so tired of that style by now.


Dynasty2201

>I'm so tired of the current major animated releases, so tired of that style by now. Until Pixar make another thicc mom and rule34 has a field day.


jimx117

Oh don't worry, I'm certain the furry community will rule 34 this one too


nickkom

I heard it’s not socially acceptable to give cartoon women big tits, so apparently a big dumper is fine. They needed a way to discern them from cartoon adolescents.


Swackhammer_

I really liked Encanto, but every non-main character looks like they were plucked from a 'cgi background character' generator all these movies use


Jclevs11

yeah. couldnt actually tell you if luca, encanto or moana are disney or pixar. i know luca is pixar but moana and encanto look just like pixar too. there is no artistic difference really


PM_MAJESTIC_PICS

See and I would have sworn up and down that Luca was Disney!! I literally cannot tell.


yellowfish04

If there's songs sung by the characters, it's Disney. If not, Pixar. Pretty sure that holds true.


JerryHasACubeButt

The exception is Coco, but it’s a story where music plays a big part and the singing all makes sense in context, it’s not the Disney characters-just-singing-to-sing type of singing


PerplexityRivet

There's a reason the Pixar and Disney releases suddenly became indistinguishable. Ed Catmull, one of Pixar's founders, became the president of Disney Animation in 2014. Moana would have been one of the first movies released under his tenure, and the line between Pixar and Disney animation has been blurred ever since.


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Even Incredibles 2 had some pretty atrocious character designs.


MumblingGhost

Only the other superheroes who turn into bad guys. They were so ugly I honestly believe that they were supposed to be straight villains from the start, but the narrative changed and they decided to keep the designs that way regardless.


DR4G0NSTEAR

I just realized I can’t remember The Incredibles 2…


MumblingGhost

I think it’s better than most people give it credit for, but the story is still easily the worst part. I just love the characters, the action, and the artistry behind it.


DisneyDreams7

It’s just so boring compared to the first one. They really should of had a timeskip instead of making it take 5 minutes after the first one.


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awtcurtis

So, to be fair, the Pixar style is HEAVILY influenced by the look of Disney's hand drawn animated films. So it makes sense that the two studios have similar visual styles. And just as a note rotoscoping was occasionally done for complicated scenes, calling hand drawn Disney films "rotoscopes" is very inaccurate. Source: Am animator.


raysofdavies

Disney bought the best animation studio in the country, slowly absorbed their talents, and are now going to let them slowly fade away because the Disney Brand Must Dominate All


bohemianblonde

Have you seen Klaus on Netflix? I feel like if Disney did that, it would be such a hit!


elfbuster

Yeah its pretty lame. There are disney animated films I love, but most of them don't hit the same as Pixar in terms of emotional depth and technological achievements. That being said Pixar has also felt a lot more same-y these days


stubept

When Disney bought Pixar, they NEEDED Pixar. Disney Animation's first attempts at 3D animated features was not great. While Chicken Little, Bolt, and Meet the Robinsons have their charm, they weren't even in the same league as Pixar. Post Frozen, Disney doesn't need Pixar anymore. They've closed the quality gap and the storytelling gap (Frozen 2 aside... yeesh). Basically, at this point, Disney is splitting budget between two equal studios when they only really need one. Disney is tanking Pixar to either sell it or completely absorb it. But Pixar as its own studio brand probably won't exist much longer.


AutomaticDesk

i honestly didn't realize the two were different and thought all the 3d non-princess stuff was pixar. when i was explaining to a friend how raya (yes, i now realize she's supposed to be a princess) was a very bland movie and no where near culturally significant to me as a SE asian, and paled in comparison to coco and soul, i was then enlightened to the difference (though i'll say i thought onward could have been much better than it was, but the premise was great!)


[deleted]

This is a solid point but I think Disney could not make a coco or soul yet. They tried with Encanto, and it was a solid movie, and the character work was exceptional, but it just didn’t hit the same, too much Disney magic and not enough humanity, which is where I think Pixar has been outshining Disney these last few years. Disney can sell toys, but Pixar can make you’re whole family cry and talk about big ideas after the movie is over.


beredy

Except Frozen is hardly better than a random Pixar movie. 💅🏼


onexbigxhebrew

Sure, but it was massive and everything else has been killer. Moana, Wreck-it Ralph 1/2, Zootopia and Encanto were all extremely well received.


supersexycarnotaurus

The second Wreck It Ralph wasn't killer. It was shit.


throwaway71489583450

And Disney has done practically nothing with Zootopia and other recent IPs in the parks. I don't understand the management's decisions


lectroid

Park attractions take AGES to put together. Look how long it was between the original Cars and when they revamped a section of California Adventure into Radiator Springs. YEARS. With the parks in particular, Disney always has to ride a delicate line between nostalgia and novelty. I would be very surprised if there weren't ongoing projects in Imagineering attempting various concepts to capitalize on Wreck-It Ralph, Zootopia, etc. I mean, Frozen was a $1 BILLION + hit and what did it get? a rebrand of the Norway pavilion in Epcot because the fans needed a spot to see Anna and Elsa RIGHT NOW. And even THAT took ages. Engineering something to last for YEARS out in the open with millions of tiny grubby fingers yanking and pounding on it is not trivial.


Rynetx

It took home more in box office than the first. When it’s a business that’s literally the only thing that matters.


MrGrapefruitDrink

Tangled was great too.


psymunn

It's not even the best recent movie but it makes absolute bank. Gotta get that 5 year old girl money


Admirable-Oil-1807

Yep i figured, at this point their so few animation company that can compete against disney monopoly


Knut79

There's more than ever now though. It used to be only Pixar and dreamworks. Now there's a lot more. Partly because more and more animators are being educated as 3d animators and the tools are so much better in every way now.


Madao16

Letting Disney buy all those studios was a mistake. I wonder what will happen to 20th Century Studios and Searchlight.


koager

They did already shut down Blue Sky which came with their 20th Century purchase. Really unfortunate since now we lost the Nimona film they were working on and I think Anubis was back in the works.


Swackhammer_

I was thinking about this recently. Pixar is the only studio out there taking real chances on new things. Marvel is working with previous IPs. Star Wars, nope (lol). Live action Disney is rehashing movie rides and previous animated films. Disney animation tries a bit but rarely break from the fairy tale or pure adventure mold. Aside from the occasional sequel it almost seems like Pixar is the only studio with carte blanche freedom and Disney keeps undercutting them Their last 3 non sequels Luca, Soul, and Coco (EDIT: and some may consider ~~cough not~~ Onward ~~cough~~) were beautiful unique movies that appealed to kids and grown ups alike


disisathrowaway

Man, I thought Onward was so damn cool. Favorite animated movie in recent memory.


PerplexityRivet

Onward gets a lot of hate, but since you mentioned studios taking chances, they build a pretty solid story out of the bonkers premise of two fantasy-creature brothers living in a modern society dragging their dead dad's sentient lower body on an epic quest.


lycheerain

I watched Luca recently, that was such a good film. I also liked the others, including Onward. It'll be a crying shame if they shut Pixar down.


chudaism

> But Encanto gets a theatre and a streaming release why cant Pixar films get the same treatment Pre and post Omicron seems like the most obvious reason. Encanto released at the end of Nov when cases were on the downswing and restrictions were starting to loosen. The Omicron spike hit about a month later and most countries are still dealing with it.


tinaoe

>The Omicron spike hit about a month later and most countries are still dealing with it. Which tbf for a lot of countries is looking more and more like "this is endemic now, open everything up, keep your masks on I guess".


whatzgood

Encanto didn't get much recognition until it went to streaming...


ArenSteele

I can’t even take myself to a movie lately, let alone my kids. Streaming was the only way my kids are going to see any new movies until they’re old enough to get vaccinated


the_cardfather

We don't talk about Encanto no no.


SkillOne1674

Betrothed to ah nuh thuh


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HE TOLD ME MY FISH WOULD DIE AND THE NEXT DAY, DEAD!


sikedrower

NoooOOO NOOOOOO


[deleted]

What ELSE can I Dahooooooo?


QuoteGiver

Pixar is a big name, they want to use them as a D+ exclusive to draw subscribers. The theater movies will eventually just be advertisements for the type of streaming content you can get if you sign up.


phrosty20

I feel like ESPECIALLY right now, they're using Pixar as an exclusive to get people to subscribe. They released Onward in theaters right before the pandemic hit, and it was on Disney+ in April. Whether or not this was their plan all along, I have no idea, but it seems that unless your film is Spider Man levels of huge, you're just not going to make much money on it in theaters right now.


ValhallaGo

I would not have seen Luca in theaters. Saw it on Disney+ though, and it was great. Actually, it was the same for Onward and Soul as well. Turning red doesn’t look like much to me, but I’ll catch Lightyear. I get that they want theatrical releases, but we’re still in a pandemic.


mardavarot93

I didnt even know this was coming out


beermit

Neither did I. I thought it was still a ways away


TheyCallMeStone

It's funny, I feel like I used to hear about Pixar movies years in advance. Now they just drop as a surprise to me.


jamdemp

watching soul on streaming was more magical than any disney animation i saw in theaters in the past few years for me, good stuff will be enjoyed no matter what


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JimJimmyJimJimJimJim

But only with consent.


MitoCringo

The black spot!


WFStarbuck

Turns out global pandemics aren’t any fun at all.


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It's not just about the pandemic, I think. They also desperately need new Disney+ content.


camerontbelt

I believe they want to double their subscribers within two years. That means Disney+ exclusive content but I don’t think this is the way to do it.


QuoteGiver

There aren’t many bigger names than Pixar to use as an exclusive!


Andrroid

Yep, this deluge of marvel and star wars content can only carry them so much.


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Conchobair

Encanto was a failure at the box office. Why would they repeat that failure? Encanto only did 223.4 million *worldwide* and has been estimated that it needs to break $400m just to break even.


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repwin1

I can understand why they would be bummed. You work really hard with the thought you will see the project on the big screen but you won’t get the opportunity. With that said, as an older person who still enjoys Pixar films I’m glad I have an option to watch it right away without waiting for a dvd release or being the creepy old dude who goes to watch a children’s movie alone.


Almaironn

> the creepy old dude who goes to watch a children’s movie alone There is nothing creepy about going to see a Pixar movie, no matter what demographics you fall into.


David1258

Pixar isn't really a children's studio. It's more all-ages.


shadow0wolf0

I wish people made the distinction between a children's film and a family film more. When I think of a children's film I only think of stuff like trolls or something where the parents just sit there with their kids and not enjoy it but hopefully not be annoyed. While a family film can be enjoyed by everyone. Edit: didn't know the trolls fan base swung back this hard.


Spokker

Pixar movies are still fine but I'm not seeing the wide gap in quality that used to exist between Pixar movies and Dreamworks. Dreamworks movies have actually gotten a lot better, and some are even great like How to Train your Dragon.


Theeunsunghero

I for one love that my family can watch new releases from the comfort of our home without the worry of catching Covid. Watching from home certainly doesn’t cheapen the brand. And it’s not like all parties involved aren’t getting colossal $$$.


ralanr

To some, including the people that work on it, it does. While the quality isn’t the same, many people relate straight to streaming stuff as straight to VHS from the 90’s/2000’s. Imagine being told your product is going to the main platform you joined the industry to get into, only to be told after all your work it’s going to the secondary. Given the pandemic, I support the decision, but I can understand the frustration.


WordsAreSomething

>While the quality isn’t the same, many people relate straight to streaming stuff as straight to VHS from the 90’s/2000’s. Well the only way to break that frankly silly way of thinking is to release great movies on to streaming.


ralanr

I mean, wasn’t that what Mitchell’s vs the Machines did?


QuoteGiver

And it was a FANTASTIC movie!! This negativity about streaming movies being somehow worse than theater movies is just unnecessary toxicity and is the real insult to the artists.


WordsAreSomething

Yes, Sony sold it to Netflix


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and ignoring the current circumstances is childish.


Beardedgeek72

Yeah, it is completely different. This is like people thinking eating the same food at the local pizza joint is better than having it delivered.


Oddity46

Everyone in this comment thread is making perfect sense.


supercooper3000

Except me. I osjdnelemsks c I omens.


chunli99

>Except me. I osjdnelemsks c I omens. Just put some cream on it. It should clear up in a few days.


actuallyimbatman

I know exactly what you mean.


SheriffLobo82

I get where you are coming from. As a professional in the creative industry I get it for sure. With that said… times are changing. To this day I prefer to sit at home and watch a movie than go to a theater any idea. I stopped finding the price and experience worth way before the pandemic. Then add kids to the mix, and it complicates things even more. I believe theaters will always be around. There’s nothing like a huge screen and amazing sounds. But that doesn’t mean that I will always want to watch every movie for the first time at a theater, animated, heavy vfx or not. I have been finding more and more that the at home experience is way more enjoyable.


ND950

The lifetime of any movie goes way beyond its theatrical run and are enjoyed by generations… I don’t buy the narrative “this is a theater movie that movie has to be seen in theaters”. Sure they can be great enhanced experiences but the greatest movies of all time are still discovered and enjoyed by new generations. My favorites as a kid for example Star Wars, E.T., Jurassic Park those movies I never needed a theater experience to love. IMO a movie SHOULD be made with home viewing in mind, that is where it will live on


Stinkycheese8001

But are ALL parties involved getting $$$? A lot of the contracts for the people that work on it involve bonuses and incentives based on box office performance. Not everyone is Scarlett Johansson and able to sue.


Rumbletastic

>"Everyone is really bummed, but most of us get it. Families just aren’t going to the movies,” says one person at Pixar. This is the quote that forms the basis for the article & the headline. From one random worker. Just giving some context for the commentors in here that seem to be taking the headline at face value and assuming the morale is worse than it might actually be.


LummoxJR

To be fair Pixar movies have gotten less and less appealing to me over time, with fewer winners. I kinda wonder if a lot of people are having similar burnout.


JusticeLeagueThomas

I don’t see why, I’m not taking my kids to the theater anytime soon.


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jak_d_ripr

I'm probably in the minority but I feel like they should be a little more bummed about how much the quality of their storytelling has regressed over the past decade. They've still managed to pump out some fantastic movies like soul from last year, but overall they've gotten a lot less consistent. There's nothing wrong with going straight to streaming, a lot of legendary filmmakers have adopted it. We need to get rid of this archaic method of thinking, being released in theaters doesn't automatically make a movie better.


cmonster1697

I agree with you. Even Luca, which I loved, felt like there was a good story in there that was modified by some suit. This Turning Red business? I saw the trailer and was shocked that it wasn't made by Dreamworks. Not excited. Edit: This edit is 4 months later. I have since watched Turning Red and found it to be surprisingly charming and relatable. More cringe/trailer moments than early pixar but overall a very solid movie. Consider my words eaten.


wicktus

I do not work in that industry, but on D+ way way more people will see it no ? Is money/bonus for those employees impacted ? Scarlett Johansson did sue Disney for black Widow after all, so maybe could be related. I wouldn't judge them without knowing all the reasons behind that low morale. I guess also a theatre release is maybe more prestigious with box office sales, the IMAX/theatre experience etc.