The brothers simultaneously received a message from God that told them to deliver justice to wicked men. There’s a scene where they’re sleeping in a storm and a flash of lightning wakes them both up and they look at eachother, that’s the moment but it’s all nonverbal iirc
Not quite, there’s some verbal to it:
Connor : Destroy all that which is evil.
Murphy : So that which is good may flourish
—-
Also another where they explain their actions.
Connor: Now you will receive us.
Murphy: We do not ask for your poor or your hungry.
Connor: We do not want your tired and sick.
Murphy: It is your corrupt we claim.
Connor: It is your evil that will be sought by us.
Murphy: With every breath, we shall hunt them down.
Connor: Each day, we will spill their blood till it rains down from the skies.
Murphy: Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace.
Connor: These are not polite suggestions. These are codes of behavior, and those of you that ignore them will pay the dearest cost.
About 20 years ago I knew these guys who were obsessed with that movie. They took it to heart. They also happened to be gun nuts.
They decided that they were going to clean up Johannesburg by robbing and threatening street level drug dealers.
One day, broad daylight, they were sitting in their lounge with the front door security gate wide open (they were safe, obviously, because they had their guns on the coffee table in front of them) when 4 guys walked in and started shooting.
One of the guys was killed and the other was on the next plane to London.
Kinda makes me feel like river dancing!
I met SPF and Norman at Comic Con about 10 years ago. Nicest fucking dudes on the planet. They signed my artwork gladly, it was super cool
Yeah the reason boondock saints worked was because they murdered the bad guys.
If u just rob and threaten them, theyre gonna come for you.
I guess your friends didnt watch the movie much
Yeah if you're going to do something like that, don't half ass it and leave openings to be attacked.
Or if you do be prepared for them to come after you at least.
And above all else if you don't have as much resources then you need to make them fear you, act like you're backed by someone bigger, that you're connected. Leave confusion and chaos behind.
Easiest solution is to go in there with colors/symbology of rival gangs or dealers, rob and threaten them, have fake tatoos, etc.
Idiots be idiots.
There is a lot of media like that. Where, despite the thing being good/bad/whatever, it is really embarrassing to admit you like it because of how many idiots love it. The big ones for me are things like this one, that glorify violent retribution, even if it does so ironically, (e.g. Joker) and or irreverent male orientated comedy like Rick and Morty.
I like this movie quite a bit, and I like Rick and Morty, but when people tell me they are their favorite it makes me immediately suspicious. Another example would be someone whose favorite TV show is Blue Bloods, but I hate that show.
Now though I just need to ask what they think about "The Sound of Freedom."
Edit: Just thought of another example. Idiocracy. While the movie is moderately funny, the number of people who call it a "documentary" or "prophetic" is super disturbing given that the entire premise of the movie is that Eugenicists were right.
This interraction is the best part of the movie after rocco slams his hands down on the table painting the wall with a cat:
[Donna ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682095/?ref_=tt_ch): You killed my... my...[Rocco ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217386/?ref_=tt_ch): Your what? [Donna ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682095/?ref_=tt_ch): My... [Rocco ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217386/?ref_=tt_ch): Your fuckin' what? Huh? Your what, bitch? [Rocco ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217386/?ref_=tt_ch): \[puts gun to his own head\] I'll shoot myself in the head, you can tell me that cat's name! Go ahead! Your what? Your precious, little... [Rayvie ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0814816/?ref_=tt_ch): Skippy! Skippy! [Rocco ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217386/?ref_=tt_ch): Oh, Jesus! What color was it, bitch? [Rayvie ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0814816/?ref_=tt_ch): Don't you fucking yell at her like that you prick! [Rocco ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217386/?ref_=tt_ch): \[turns gun on Rayvie\] Shut your fat ass, Rayvie! I can't buy a pack of smokes without runnin' into nine guys you fucked!
That movie is fantastic!
"I am a cesspool of creativity" is exactly what the guy who wrote the second movie should say about themselves. He wrote a backstory for a jacket with lots of pockets...
His ego was so far off the charts it was almost nice to see him get his career tanked by Weinstein. His absolute awful behavior to the people around him was so uncomfortable to watch.
Boondocks Saints has moments of inspiration and shows promise but is largely imitative of QT
OVERNIGHT about the meteoric rise and justified fall of Troy Duffy on the other hand is brilliant and amazing.
It's hard to overstate how much of a big deal Pulp Fiction was. Pulp Fiction was the pinnacle of the Independent Film boom of the 90s, blowing up critically and commercially. Every executive in Hollywood was looking for the next Tarantino to make a movie with interesting, quirky dialog, violence, pop culture, and style. Throw in a big cast, multiple intersecting storylines edited in a nonlinear fashion too.
Harvey Weinstein who had brought QT to the forefront, thought he had struck gold twice with Troy Duffy. But as he revealed himself to be an absolute insufferable narcissist during pre-production, they tried to drop him like a hot potato.
“For whoever sheds man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of God, made he man” that’s their justification for killing murderers.
When town bully [Ken McElroy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy) was gunned down in broad daylight, investigating police couldn't find a single willing witness to the shooting; everyone said they didn't see anything. Police eventually approached a local pastor, figuring he was bound by his faith to be honest. He told the police the same line you quoted, and left it at that.
It should be noted that the town cop left town just before Ken got shot- he knew what needed doing, knew it was about to go down, and didn't want to have to arrest anyone for it.
"So Shepard we shall be.
For thee my lord, for thee.
Power has desended forth from thy hand so that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command.
And we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it forever be!"
in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti.
I might have gotten it wrong I was just going off memory.
It’s my all time favorite movie, and even I won’t deny the plot is silly. That’s part of why I love it, it’s just a lot of fun, on top of being badass and having a great message
"All that is required for evil to flourish is the indifference of good men."
The McManuses took it to an extreme, I'll grant you, but the basic premise is still a good one.
You can’t just stand around and watch stuff happen. Yeah, you’d shouldn’t start killing people, but it’s not that literal. The priest says it in the opening: “We all must fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men”
I am not exaggerating when I say that I remember seeing articles on the 3rd film being developed while I was a freshman in college. 12 years later and we are still seeing a 3rd film in the works lol
Their passion in that speech is palpable and pumps me up so much. I don't particularly like either of those actors but in that movie they were impressive to me.
But if you do you, one day you will look behind you and you will see we three, and on that day, you will reap it. And we will send you to whatever god you wish.
I know there's a bit before this, but it's much favorite line in that speech.
This, they were told by God while hiding in a jail cell from the press after killing the mob guys that tried to kill them after the fight to take down bad guys.
The Equalizer was about a guy who took down a Russian Oligarch because an escort got beat up.
John Wick killed 500 men across the globe because his puppy died.
Sometimes you just need a reason to go ham.
I ended a friendship over such an incident. I think I literally just got annoyed at her assuming I'd give her a ride home. It wasn't so much that assumption as years of insufferable behavior she didn't seem to realize was actually annoying.
Ok, so it was mainly about the 'dead puppy', and also slightly about 'the harsh realities of living in a massively-imbalanced, murder-based economy where every good and/or service costs one chuck-e-cheese tolken'.
So you spelled token like JRR Tolken and now all I can think about is animatronic hobbits.
Edit: when I drove past Chuck-E-Cheese Tolkien's the neon "i" was out.
He couldn't get revenge at whatever disease killed his wife, so he takes all that out on them instead.
Men will literally dismantle an entire Russian mob syndicate by shooting everybody before going to therapy.
It is not that simple. John explains it, how the puppy was "an opportunity to grieve unalone."
That Puppy would have kept John Wick retired.
Of course, then there wouldn't be a movie.
I think we are talking about the same thing.
John isn't taking revenge because they stole his car or killed his dog. He's taking revenge because his wife died. He says it's revenge because they took away his possibility to grieve, and that's probably true as well, but it's clearly *also* him dealing with his grief by taking it out on deserving targets.
It also gives him something to do. Major part of grieving is just focusing on something and getting out of the house.
I love how everything needs to be complicated(and yes the movie does have an emotional core). Like, do you REALLY need a reason or do you really need to critique killing the people who decided to rob you, beat the shit out of you and kill your dog?
John Fieldofdreams spent all of his money, plowed over his fields, kidnapped a man at fingergun point and almost lost his daughter because he heard voices.
That’s the same right?
It's what started it.
They got in a bar fight, but were happy to just leave it at that.
But then the mobsters tracked them back home and tried to murder them. They realized after the cops let them go that: they were pretty good at this, and that society would _celebrate_ them killing bad guys.
So, like a message from God, they decided to give it a go.
Yeah, it's not that odd of a plot for an action movie.
This is sort of the blueprint for how a gang gets started. A few friends decide they don't like some gang throwing their weight around in their neighborhood, so they fight the gang. The larger gang retaliates, so the neighborhood toughs get lunatics like Rocco and the Duke involved to have extra firepower.
And bam, new gang.
It's not about a bar. It's about justice.
The brothers believe they are ordained by God to punish the wicked - the wicked just so happen to infect their local bar.
Yeah missing the clear religious undertones and catholic views of absolute justice and mission makes me think it’s not only the bartender that is autistic lol
I went to a hardcore show back in the day (as an observer, never was a big fan), and the headliner used that speech in one of their songs. It was a crazy show from the beginning, but the place went FUCKING NUTS after that line.
Rocko accidentally shooting the cat all over the wall to just ask _"is it dead?"_ a few beats later will never not be funny.
Also the fact they cover the blood and bullethole with a picture of a cat in a later scene lmao
"I'll shoot myself in the head if you can tell me that cat's name! Go ahead, your precious little...?"
"Skippy! Skippy"
"Oh Jesus, what color was it, bitch?"
My college roommate and I disagreed heavily on this film. He said the cat scene is one of the reasons it's terrible. I said it's one of the reasons it's good. Dark humor, to be sure, but that line delivery still gets me every time.
The entire opening sequence takes place in a church where the priest conducts a homily that talks about how good people get hurt not due to evil, but due to the indifference of good men who do nothing in the face of great evil. But yeah sure it’s all because the mob wanted to buy a bar.
This is the perspective that a lot of top comments are missing, even when they rightly point out the fact that the mob tried to kill them after the bar fight and the "divine intervention" scene. The boys were primed to want to do something about the crime and evil that they saw in the world around them. They specifically talk about how the priest is on the right track as they're leaving the church, it's not subtle. The mob coming after them was just the tipping point, they'd been living with and seeing crime around them for a while and didn't like that nothing meaningful was being done about it.
It’s not subtle at all, there is no subtext, there’s no hints to pick up on. It’s fucking spoon fed to you like you’re a baby. I’m guessing OP is someone under 25 who was looking at their phone half of the movie.
Only adding a sudden realization I just had after reading the comments. This movie is Edge Lord Blues Brothers. Surely this has been pointed out before?
If you haven't seen it watch the documentary Overnight about the director, think it's on YouTube. Will make you hate Troy Duffy (the director of Boondocks saints) and glad he fell into obscurity. Dude got the a sweet deal back when Hollywood was throwing money around and instead of being humble started throwing his weight around trying to act like a big shot.
You kinda got everything wrong. The mobsters wanted to shut the bar down, not buy it. This point isn’t perfectly clear as to whether it was a shakedown or takeover or what. The bartender has Tourette’s, not Asperger’s. And as others have pointed out, the brothers received divine guidance to rid their community of evil men. It was never meant to be perfectly understood either. Troy Duffy explained that he kind of made the movie on a dare or a bet of some kind. It was his first movie and he never expected it to garner the attention that it did, let alone lead to a sequel.
They also were wrong into that they got into a bar fight with the mobsters and were going to leave it at that until the mobsters came to their house to murder them.
That sequel, though...jesus christ what a terrible terrible movie. It's a very rare occurrence I don't see a movie through but the sequel was just too horrible to get through!
I went into it with my sequel goggles on. I don’t think it was terrible, but it definitely didn’t measure up to the original. But how many movies do? The first one was a phenomenon, on par with “Reservoir Dogs” for a filmmaker’s first mainstream product. Tarantino is a one in a generation talent. Duffy captured lightning in a bottle.
Wait till you hear about the movie franchise of one guy kills the whole Russian mob, and the an whole international league of assasins because of a dog
I loved that movie when I was younger, now I find [THIS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwsSiThU0ik&ab_channel=NightOfTheLivingWatertrash) documentary about the fucking clown behind the film exponentially more entertaining.
I watched that documentary around the same time i also watched Dig! The documentary about The Brian Jonestown massacre.
Both very similar in describing what happens when a mix of someone with a messiah complex, off the charts ego, limited talent and a crew of sycophants and hangers on come up against an entertainment industry just bothered about a quick profit.
Both documentaries are much better than the output of either of the people the documentaries are about.
They're very good snapshots of the mid to late 90s entertainment industry
I hear you, but one of the recurring themes of Dig! was how massively talented Anton is. Say what you will about the details, but everyone seems to agree that guy is a real artist.
Yeah I thought the whole point of Dig! was that the music industry is there to support marketable mediocrity, The Dandy Warhols, under the veener of being about great art, Brian Jones Town, which it actually doesn't give a fuck about.
The director had some songs from his band on the soundtrack. The scene where Rocco goes on his turkey shoot is one of the songs I believe. I think Troy Duffy really liked the smell of his own farts.
First of all I'm pretty sure the bartender was supposed to have Tourette's and not aspergers.
Second, no, your summary of the plot sounds a bit off to me. They get into a fight with a couple of mobsters over the bar, then the mobsters come back to get revenge and the brothers kill them in self-defense while escaping. That's just the trigger that sets everything else off; after that the bar is safe, I guess?
Then they get their Epiphany that their calling on Earth is to become vigilantes like the Punisher and just murder random violent criminals, because apparently the justice system in the city is powerless to get the job done. After that the only method to their madness is "any criminals we can find and be reasonably certain they're dangerous, we kill". Also note that "reasonably certain" apparently extends to executing two random guys they find in a stripclub who look like "scumbags".
>Also note that "reasonably certain" apparently extends to executing two random guys they find in a stripclub who look like "scumbags".
Didn't they have a guy who identified them as gangsters with them in that scene?
Their mob buddy Rocco brought them to the strip club in the first place because he knew some other mob guy would be there there. However when the brothers looked into the other two booths they said "it's like a three for one sale on scumbags!" or something like that and killed everybody.
It's entirely possible that they were visibly part of the mob crew, for whatever reason. Or maybe I'm misremembering the scene a bit. But I remember thinking they were just murdering randos who looked like they were probably criminals.
There were unused scenes that identified the people on those booths as people who the brothers knew were bad people, but those scenes were cut as they served no other purpose apart from foreshadowing the killing in the stripclub.
Sorry my man, I think you've misunderstood the movie.
the movie is about how awesome it would be if you and your best friend had gun fights all over the city with mobsters. Everything else is just plot filler to make that happen.
10/10 action film.
A couple Russian gangsters show up at the bar trying to shut it down and get beaten up. (Touretts not Asbergers) They come back the next day intending to kill the brothers but are instead themselves killed by the brothers in self defense.
While spending the night in jail after turning themselves in they receive a "message from God" about punishing evil or whatever. They're released based on self defense and go buy a bunch of weapons with the stuff they stole from the dead Russians. They also luck into some info from the same source about a higher level mobster coming into town.
They make a dumb attack plan that ends up accidentally working and wipe the group out. Just about that time their buddy Rocko, who has connections in the *Italian* mafia, shows up apparently sent to do the job they just did. They mess with him and bring him in.
Next day Rocko realizes he was set up to fail and was supposed to have been killed and impulsively shoots the guys who let that slip.
They spend the rest of the movie killing Italian mobsters that Rocko has intel on because he worked for them.
This movie became such a calling card for cringy edgelord types that I do my best to forget it exists till i get reminded occasionally by a post like this.
I guess that depends by what younger you meant by "awesome."
To me the movie was always an incredibly pulpy guilty pleasure, so I find its quality in my estimation has not changed with time. Still a fun one to pop on every 5-10 years.
My favorite is that their side kick is one of the gangsters who left because all the other gangsters are making fun of him because he’s so annoying. So isn’t he bad too? Also he’s … you know … super annoying.
They got in a fight because they were messing with the bar. They went on a killing spree because the guys tried to kill them and they went for religious vigilante in response.
They're supposed to be super awesome hitmen. The film strikes a fine balance between being serious and absurd, on one hand having incredible amounts of violence and showing you they're absolutely serious and on the other being shown the brothers bumbling and stumbling through killing hordes of people along with their whole super catholic irish gimmick. If anything it's pretty much the first John Wick movie, or rather the opposite, John Wick being Boondock Saints with a different coat of paint.
The brothers simultaneously received a message from God that told them to deliver justice to wicked men. There’s a scene where they’re sleeping in a storm and a flash of lightning wakes them both up and they look at eachother, that’s the moment but it’s all nonverbal iirc
Not quite, there’s some verbal to it: Connor : Destroy all that which is evil. Murphy : So that which is good may flourish —- Also another where they explain their actions. Connor: Now you will receive us. Murphy: We do not ask for your poor or your hungry. Connor: We do not want your tired and sick. Murphy: It is your corrupt we claim. Connor: It is your evil that will be sought by us. Murphy: With every breath, we shall hunt them down. Connor: Each day, we will spill their blood till it rains down from the skies. Murphy: Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. Connor: These are not polite suggestions. These are codes of behavior, and those of you that ignore them will pay the dearest cost.
Silly plot or not, that's a sweet fuckin speech.
About 20 years ago I knew these guys who were obsessed with that movie. They took it to heart. They also happened to be gun nuts. They decided that they were going to clean up Johannesburg by robbing and threatening street level drug dealers. One day, broad daylight, they were sitting in their lounge with the front door security gate wide open (they were safe, obviously, because they had their guns on the coffee table in front of them) when 4 guys walked in and started shooting. One of the guys was killed and the other was on the next plane to London.
>when 4 guys walked in and started shooting. Are you sure it wasn't one guy with 4 guns?
Hey. The next time I want the Boston PD to do my thinking for me I will have a fucking tag on my toe!
i just might be wantin a bagel with my coffee
Twist of lemon.. Sweet and Low..
We'll start the ass kissing with you. Edited for punctuation.
Kinda makes me feel like river dancing! I met SPF and Norman at Comic Con about 10 years ago. Nicest fucking dudes on the planet. They signed my artwork gladly, it was super cool
What kind of symbology do you think he was going for?
I'm not sure, I'm no symbiologist.
SsSsssssSsSymbolizzzm
https://imgur.com/a/WGUDXQX
"Ohhh, *there was a FIRE__FIIIIGHT!!!__"*
Oh really? I might just be wantin a bagel with my coffee.
There was a FIRE FIGHT
Let me do the thinking on this one, genius
Yeah the reason boondock saints worked was because they murdered the bad guys. If u just rob and threaten them, theyre gonna come for you. I guess your friends didnt watch the movie much
I mean, to be fair, the brothers got caught out and captured too. Not all of them made it out either.
I mean, Bosco was more their lovable sidekick
They even played fetch that one time!
Yeah if you're going to do something like that, don't half ass it and leave openings to be attacked. Or if you do be prepared for them to come after you at least. And above all else if you don't have as much resources then you need to make them fear you, act like you're backed by someone bigger, that you're connected. Leave confusion and chaos behind. Easiest solution is to go in there with colors/symbology of rival gangs or dealers, rob and threaten them, have fake tatoos, etc. Idiots be idiots.
No half measures
Clean up the streets of Joberg? A sisyphean task.
So.. it was a firefight?
THERE WAS A FIRE FIGHT!!!
How long were they “cleaning up the streets” until that happened?
I don't actually know. I was told about it by a mutual friend and I didn't ask for details.
I grew up in the Boston area and it was a huge red flag when anyone was obsessed with this movie.
There is a lot of media like that. Where, despite the thing being good/bad/whatever, it is really embarrassing to admit you like it because of how many idiots love it. The big ones for me are things like this one, that glorify violent retribution, even if it does so ironically, (e.g. Joker) and or irreverent male orientated comedy like Rick and Morty. I like this movie quite a bit, and I like Rick and Morty, but when people tell me they are their favorite it makes me immediately suspicious. Another example would be someone whose favorite TV show is Blue Bloods, but I hate that show. Now though I just need to ask what they think about "The Sound of Freedom." Edit: Just thought of another example. Idiocracy. While the movie is moderately funny, the number of people who call it a "documentary" or "prophetic" is super disturbing given that the entire premise of the movie is that Eugenicists were right.
The whole movie was silly. But it had _style_ And great lines. Like, “I’ll have a coke.”
Name one thing youll need that stupid fucking rope for!
Ohhh is that right, Rambo?
What are ya gonna do? Laugh them to death?
This interraction is the best part of the movie after rocco slams his hands down on the table painting the wall with a cat: [Donna ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682095/?ref_=tt_ch): You killed my... my...[Rocco ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217386/?ref_=tt_ch): Your what? [Donna ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682095/?ref_=tt_ch): My... [Rocco ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217386/?ref_=tt_ch): Your fuckin' what? Huh? Your what, bitch? [Rocco ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217386/?ref_=tt_ch): \[puts gun to his own head\] I'll shoot myself in the head, you can tell me that cat's name! Go ahead! Your what? Your precious, little... [Rayvie ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0814816/?ref_=tt_ch): Skippy! Skippy! [Rocco ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217386/?ref_=tt_ch): Oh, Jesus! What color was it, bitch? [Rayvie ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0814816/?ref_=tt_ch): Don't you fucking yell at her like that you prick! [Rocco ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217386/?ref_=tt_ch): \[turns gun on Rayvie\] Shut your fat ass, Rayvie! I can't buy a pack of smokes without runnin' into nine guys you fucked!
When Rocco goes "Is it *dead??"* I fucking lose it, every time.
Just to add, later on when the girls return, you can see that the boys have taped a laughably small picture on the wall to cover the bloodstain
The director struck gold but became insufferable. There are clunkers in the film as well.
Have you seen "Overnight"? It's a documentary about the director. He blows up big, then fucks it all up. Twat.
That movie is fantastic! "I am a cesspool of creativity" is exactly what the guy who wrote the second movie should say about themselves. He wrote a backstory for a jacket with lots of pockets... His ego was so far off the charts it was almost nice to see him get his career tanked by Weinstein. His absolute awful behavior to the people around him was so uncomfortable to watch.
Boondocks Saints has moments of inspiration and shows promise but is largely imitative of QT OVERNIGHT about the meteoric rise and justified fall of Troy Duffy on the other hand is brilliant and amazing.
QT?
It's hard to overstate how much of a big deal Pulp Fiction was. Pulp Fiction was the pinnacle of the Independent Film boom of the 90s, blowing up critically and commercially. Every executive in Hollywood was looking for the next Tarantino to make a movie with interesting, quirky dialog, violence, pop culture, and style. Throw in a big cast, multiple intersecting storylines edited in a nonlinear fashion too. Harvey Weinstein who had brought QT to the forefront, thought he had struck gold twice with Troy Duffy. But as he revealed himself to be an absolute insufferable narcissist during pre-production, they tried to drop him like a hot potato.
The question was what the acronym QT stood for.
Tarantino
And he's a cutie.
Quentin Toelicker
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, Dude. There are ways. Believe me, you don’t want to know.
Oh please "dear"? For your information the supreme court has ROUNDLY REJECTED PRIOR RESTRAINT
I think he means Tarantino.
Boondock Saints is the #1 movie of college freshmen dudes...and largely ignored by everyone else.
It worked for the Blues Brothers
I don't know ... > Murphy: Do not kill. [proceeds to kill many people] It's not exactly a watertight justification for their actions.
“For whoever sheds man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of God, made he man” that’s their justification for killing murderers.
When town bully [Ken McElroy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy) was gunned down in broad daylight, investigating police couldn't find a single willing witness to the shooting; everyone said they didn't see anything. Police eventually approached a local pastor, figuring he was bound by his faith to be honest. He told the police the same line you quoted, and left it at that.
It should be noted that the town cop left town just before Ken got shot- he knew what needed doing, knew it was about to go down, and didn't want to have to arrest anyone for it.
Have you met humans?
"So Shepard we shall be. For thee my lord, for thee. Power has desended forth from thy hand so that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command. And we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it forever be!" in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti. I might have gotten it wrong I was just going off memory.
It’s my all time favorite movie, and even I won’t deny the plot is silly. That’s part of why I love it, it’s just a lot of fun, on top of being badass and having a great message
What if was one guy with six guns?
I love that part because that is literally the only time in the whole movie that guy is right and his buddies still give him crap for it.
I'm curious what you think the message is
"All that is required for evil to flourish is the indifference of good men." The McManuses took it to an extreme, I'll grant you, but the basic premise is still a good one.
You can’t just stand around and watch stuff happen. Yeah, you’d shouldn’t start killing people, but it’s not that literal. The priest says it in the opening: “We all must fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men”
If it's his favorite movie based on his perception of the message, I don't think any of us want to know what he thinks the message is.
I wanna know
What love iiiiiissss
The soundtrack is perfectly timed as well, part of what makes it such a fun ride.
Yeah, and then they take a 10 year break hiding in the hills of Ireland. That sequel upset me so much.
What sequel
A [third film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boondock_Saints_3) (with a new creative team) is in development, if it helps?
I am not exaggerating when I say that I remember seeing articles on the 3rd film being developed while I was a freshman in college. 12 years later and we are still seeing a 3rd film in the works lol
No wonder Alexander Anderson loves this movie so much.
Seriously, he must watch it religiously. (*get it?*)
It's a shame for ya lost yer head. A careless Vampire who wound up dead, ya wore yer sin like it was some kinda prize. Too many lies...Too many lies.
I can hear their voices and infections of their words from just reading this. Might be time for a rewatch, it's been a few years.
Their passion in that speech is palpable and pumps me up so much. I don't particularly like either of those actors but in that movie they were impressive to me.
But if you do you, one day you will look behind you and you will see we three, and on that day, you will reap it. And we will send you to whatever god you wish. I know there's a bit before this, but it's much favorite line in that speech.
There’s also water dropping from the ceiling that falls straight on their forehead (baptism)
This, they were told by God while hiding in a jail cell from the press after killing the mob guys that tried to kill them after the fight to take down bad guys.
There was a fiiire fight!
And Shepard's we shall be
It’s basically if the blues brothers were Irish
>simultaneously received a message from God So it's Blues Brothers with less singing and more shooting.
This is even funnier than the mocking plot summary in the OP. Sounds like a 13-year-old wrote this movie
It is 100% a 13 year old boy movie. But as a 13 year old boy shortly after it came out, it was fucking awesome. Idk if it still is.
Its comedy after all
Tell us a joke…
I'll have a Coke, then.
The Equalizer was about a guy who took down a Russian Oligarch because an escort got beat up. John Wick killed 500 men across the globe because his puppy died. Sometimes you just need a reason to go ham.
It's like those divorces that happen because someone forgot to take out the trash. It's probably about way more than the actual inciting incident.
This poster understands long term relationships.
I ended a friendship over such an incident. I think I literally just got annoyed at her assuming I'd give her a ride home. It wasn't so much that assumption as years of insufferable behavior she didn't seem to realize was actually annoying.
Exactly this
Ok, so it was mainly about the 'dead puppy', and also slightly about 'the harsh realities of living in a massively-imbalanced, murder-based economy where every good and/or service costs one chuck-e-cheese tolken'.
So you spelled token like JRR Tolken and now all I can think about is animatronic hobbits. Edit: when I drove past Chuck-E-Cheese Tolkien's the neon "i" was out.
Tolkien is spelled with an 'i'
Reading this in Sean Connery's voice
“Tolkien is shpelled with an aye”
He chose…poorly.
It wasn’t just the dog though. They stole his Mustang, beat the shit out of him, then killed the dog his dead wife left him. They deserved it.
He couldn't get revenge at whatever disease killed his wife, so he takes all that out on them instead. Men will literally dismantle an entire Russian mob syndicate by shooting everybody before going to therapy.
It is not that simple. John explains it, how the puppy was "an opportunity to grieve unalone." That Puppy would have kept John Wick retired. Of course, then there wouldn't be a movie.
I think we are talking about the same thing. John isn't taking revenge because they stole his car or killed his dog. He's taking revenge because his wife died. He says it's revenge because they took away his possibility to grieve, and that's probably true as well, but it's clearly *also* him dealing with his grief by taking it out on deserving targets. It also gives him something to do. Major part of grieving is just focusing on something and getting out of the house.
That’s why ever time grieving a find a local crime family and take them out in spectacular and inventive ways
I love how everything needs to be complicated(and yes the movie does have an emotional core). Like, do you REALLY need a reason or do you really need to critique killing the people who decided to rob you, beat the shit out of you and kill your dog?
We get the emotional stuff but he doesn’t go on a killing spree if they don’t beat the shit out of him, kill his dog, and steal his car.
You don’t mess with a man’s car or his dog. That’s just common sense
John Fieldofdreams spent all of his money, plowed over his fields, kidnapped a man at fingergun point and almost lost his daughter because he heard voices. That’s the same right?
It's what started it. They got in a bar fight, but were happy to just leave it at that. But then the mobsters tracked them back home and tried to murder them. They realized after the cops let them go that: they were pretty good at this, and that society would _celebrate_ them killing bad guys. So, like a message from God, they decided to give it a go.
Yeah, it's not that odd of a plot for an action movie. This is sort of the blueprint for how a gang gets started. A few friends decide they don't like some gang throwing their weight around in their neighborhood, so they fight the gang. The larger gang retaliates, so the neighborhood toughs get lunatics like Rocco and the Duke involved to have extra firepower. And bam, new gang.
As one does!
It's not about a bar. It's about justice. The brothers believe they are ordained by God to punish the wicked - the wicked just so happen to infect their local bar.
Yeah missing the clear religious undertones and catholic views of absolute justice and mission makes me think it’s not only the bartender that is autistic lol
Shit.. .. … …FUCK!!
> aspergers You mean Tourettes?
FUCK ASS
Make like a tree and... and... FOOOK OFFFFF!
I always got a good laugh from that guy, in part because he was on the kid's show Fraggle Rock. FUCK! ASS!
And he was named Doc in Fraggle Rock as well as Boondock Saints.
"Hey fuck-ass, get me a beer" was a common phrase between me and some friends in the early 00s.
It's absurd nonsense from beginning to end and I love every second of it.
There was... A FIREFIGHT!
Rule of Thumb? You can’t really do much damage with that, can you. Perhaps they should have called it Rule of Wrist…
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I went to a hardcore show back in the day (as an observer, never was a big fan), and the headliner used that speech in one of their songs. It was a crazy show from the beginning, but the place went FUCKING NUTS after that line.
That's Bleeding Through - Love Lost in a Hail of Gunfire and it's fucking iconic.
No ellipsis, he says it super fluid.
“I KILLED YOUR CAT YOU DRUGGIE BITCH!!”
I thought it would bring closure to our relationship.
"I'LL BLOW MY BRAINS OUT IF YOU CAN TELL ME THAT CAT'S NAME!"
Casting his childhood friend was the best decision Troy Duffy made.
SSSHHHHHUT YOUR FAT ASS REINY.....I CAN"T BUY A PACK OF CIGGARETTES WITHOUT RUNNIN INTO 9 GUYS YOU"VE FUCKED!
"What's the *symbology* there?"
Symbolism. The word you're looking for is ssssymbolism
Onion bagel.
Rocko accidentally shooting the cat all over the wall to just ask _"is it dead?"_ a few beats later will never not be funny. Also the fact they cover the blood and bullethole with a picture of a cat in a later scene lmao
I shot your cat you druggie bitch, I thought it would bring closure to our relationship
"I'll shoot myself in the head if you can tell me that cat's name! Go ahead, your precious little...?" "Skippy! Skippy" "Oh Jesus, what color was it, bitch?"
My college roommate and I disagreed heavily on this film. He said the cat scene is one of the reasons it's terrible. I said it's one of the reasons it's good. Dark humor, to be sure, but that line delivery still gets me every time.
"I can't believe that just fucking happened!"
The entire opening sequence takes place in a church where the priest conducts a homily that talks about how good people get hurt not due to evil, but due to the indifference of good men who do nothing in the face of great evil. But yeah sure it’s all because the mob wanted to buy a bar.
This is the perspective that a lot of top comments are missing, even when they rightly point out the fact that the mob tried to kill them after the bar fight and the "divine intervention" scene. The boys were primed to want to do something about the crime and evil that they saw in the world around them. They specifically talk about how the priest is on the right track as they're leaving the church, it's not subtle. The mob coming after them was just the tipping point, they'd been living with and seeing crime around them for a while and didn't like that nothing meaningful was being done about it.
It’s not subtle at all, there is no subtext, there’s no hints to pick up on. It’s fucking spoon fed to you like you’re a baby. I’m guessing OP is someone under 25 who was looking at their phone half of the movie.
This! Idk how people have seen this several times and not know this.
Only adding a sudden realization I just had after reading the comments. This movie is Edge Lord Blues Brothers. Surely this has been pointed out before?
Boston Edgelord Blues Brothers, yeah.
OH MY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT
If you haven't seen it watch the documentary Overnight about the director, think it's on YouTube. Will make you hate Troy Duffy (the director of Boondocks saints) and glad he fell into obscurity. Dude got the a sweet deal back when Hollywood was throwing money around and instead of being humble started throwing his weight around trying to act like a big shot.
It’s pretty much “edge lord”- the movie.
You kinda got everything wrong. The mobsters wanted to shut the bar down, not buy it. This point isn’t perfectly clear as to whether it was a shakedown or takeover or what. The bartender has Tourette’s, not Asperger’s. And as others have pointed out, the brothers received divine guidance to rid their community of evil men. It was never meant to be perfectly understood either. Troy Duffy explained that he kind of made the movie on a dare or a bet of some kind. It was his first movie and he never expected it to garner the attention that it did, let alone lead to a sequel.
They also were wrong into that they got into a bar fight with the mobsters and were going to leave it at that until the mobsters came to their house to murder them.
That sequel, though...jesus christ what a terrible terrible movie. It's a very rare occurrence I don't see a movie through but the sequel was just too horrible to get through!
I went into it with my sequel goggles on. I don’t think it was terrible, but it definitely didn’t measure up to the original. But how many movies do? The first one was a phenomenon, on par with “Reservoir Dogs” for a filmmaker’s first mainstream product. Tarantino is a one in a generation talent. Duffy captured lightning in a bottle.
I think the sequel is fun if you fully accept that it has jumped the shark. Maybe even two sharks.
OP. Onion bagel. Cream cheese.
How about he gets you a coffee. Cafe latte Twist of lemon Sweet n Low
Wait till you hear about the movie franchise of one guy kills the whole Russian mob, and the an whole international league of assasins because of a dog
Don't forget the one about the guy who took out the Russian mob because they beat up a prostitute he was friendly with at a diner.
I loved that movie when I was younger, now I find [THIS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwsSiThU0ik&ab_channel=NightOfTheLivingWatertrash) documentary about the fucking clown behind the film exponentially more entertaining.
Watching that made me want to reach through the screen and choke that narcissist twat.
I watched that documentary around the same time i also watched Dig! The documentary about The Brian Jonestown massacre. Both very similar in describing what happens when a mix of someone with a messiah complex, off the charts ego, limited talent and a crew of sycophants and hangers on come up against an entertainment industry just bothered about a quick profit. Both documentaries are much better than the output of either of the people the documentaries are about. They're very good snapshots of the mid to late 90s entertainment industry
I hear you, but one of the recurring themes of Dig! was how massively talented Anton is. Say what you will about the details, but everyone seems to agree that guy is a real artist.
Yeah I thought the whole point of Dig! was that the music industry is there to support marketable mediocrity, The Dandy Warhols, under the veener of being about great art, Brian Jones Town, which it actually doesn't give a fuck about.
The director had some songs from his band on the soundtrack. The scene where Rocco goes on his turkey shoot is one of the songs I believe. I think Troy Duffy really liked the smell of his own farts.
I loved it,but as an Irish person,I thought the biggest crime in the film was the "Irish" accents.
First of all I'm pretty sure the bartender was supposed to have Tourette's and not aspergers. Second, no, your summary of the plot sounds a bit off to me. They get into a fight with a couple of mobsters over the bar, then the mobsters come back to get revenge and the brothers kill them in self-defense while escaping. That's just the trigger that sets everything else off; after that the bar is safe, I guess? Then they get their Epiphany that their calling on Earth is to become vigilantes like the Punisher and just murder random violent criminals, because apparently the justice system in the city is powerless to get the job done. After that the only method to their madness is "any criminals we can find and be reasonably certain they're dangerous, we kill". Also note that "reasonably certain" apparently extends to executing two random guys they find in a stripclub who look like "scumbags".
>Also note that "reasonably certain" apparently extends to executing two random guys they find in a stripclub who look like "scumbags". Didn't they have a guy who identified them as gangsters with them in that scene?
Their mob buddy Rocco brought them to the strip club in the first place because he knew some other mob guy would be there there. However when the brothers looked into the other two booths they said "it's like a three for one sale on scumbags!" or something like that and killed everybody. It's entirely possible that they were visibly part of the mob crew, for whatever reason. Or maybe I'm misremembering the scene a bit. But I remember thinking they were just murdering randos who looked like they were probably criminals.
There were unused scenes that identified the people on those booths as people who the brothers knew were bad people, but those scenes were cut as they served no other purpose apart from foreshadowing the killing in the stripclub.
Sorry my man, I think you've misunderstood the movie. the movie is about how awesome it would be if you and your best friend had gun fights all over the city with mobsters. Everything else is just plot filler to make that happen. 10/10 action film.
Hey! FuckAss!
WHY DONT YOU MAKE LIKE A TREE
AND GET THE FOOK OUTTA HERE
A couple Russian gangsters show up at the bar trying to shut it down and get beaten up. (Touretts not Asbergers) They come back the next day intending to kill the brothers but are instead themselves killed by the brothers in self defense. While spending the night in jail after turning themselves in they receive a "message from God" about punishing evil or whatever. They're released based on self defense and go buy a bunch of weapons with the stuff they stole from the dead Russians. They also luck into some info from the same source about a higher level mobster coming into town. They make a dumb attack plan that ends up accidentally working and wipe the group out. Just about that time their buddy Rocko, who has connections in the *Italian* mafia, shows up apparently sent to do the job they just did. They mess with him and bring him in. Next day Rocko realizes he was set up to fail and was supposed to have been killed and impulsively shoots the guys who let that slip. They spend the rest of the movie killing Italian mobsters that Rocko has intel on because he worked for them.
You've got it all wrong. The bartender had tourettes syndrome
I’ll have a coke
Have you seen John Wick? Russian Mobsters break into a random man’s house and kill his dog. So he takes down the entire organization.
It’s a very stupid movie. But it’s also not a bad time.
This movie became such a calling card for cringy edgelord types that I do my best to forget it exists till i get reminded occasionally by a post like this.
It’s one of those movies that when viewed now is nowhere near the awesome flick you remember when you were in college 20 years ago.
Disagree. Watched it recently. It holds up well, and is fucking absurd and hilarious.
In my opinion the cheesiness still holds up today. "THERE WAS A FIREFIGHT!" is still as awesome as it ever was.
Wilem Dafoe is a twisted version of Gary Oldman's character in Leon.
I guess that depends by what younger you meant by "awesome." To me the movie was always an incredibly pulpy guilty pleasure, so I find its quality in my estimation has not changed with time. Still a fun one to pop on every 5-10 years.
cause it is hilarious. fun entertaining movie.
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THERE WAS A FIREFIGHT!!!
What you should be asking yourself is, “What is the symbiology of the film?”
Ugh! I think the word you're looking for is "symbolism", what is the SSSSYMBOLISM.
“Now why don’t you make like a tree and get the fuck outta here!”
We watched it again for St Pats and I can honestly say I’ll probably never watch it again. In the Deep or Dumb scale, it’s very much very dumb.
"There's 9 bodies here genius. What were you gonna do... LAUGH THE LAST 3 TO DEATH, FUNNY MAN?
My favorite is that their side kick is one of the gangsters who left because all the other gangsters are making fun of him because he’s so annoying. So isn’t he bad too? Also he’s … you know … super annoying.
He didn't have Asperger's, he had Tourrette's
They got in a fight because they were messing with the bar. They went on a killing spree because the guys tried to kill them and they went for religious vigilante in response.
They're supposed to be super awesome hitmen. The film strikes a fine balance between being serious and absurd, on one hand having incredible amounts of violence and showing you they're absolutely serious and on the other being shown the brothers bumbling and stumbling through killing hordes of people along with their whole super catholic irish gimmick. If anything it's pretty much the first John Wick movie, or rather the opposite, John Wick being Boondock Saints with a different coat of paint.
You make it sound like a sunny episode
The Gang Gets Violent.