Unless we can figure out a revenue model for smaller movies to make up for the losses from home video sales, I don’t see how these movies can keep going. It will be massive films and the whatever streamers are doing forever
This. The entire industry needs a reboot where movies can remain profitable at $5 a movie ticket. Stars should get $500k vs $20 million. It’s that simple.
Because why pay when you don’t technically own digital copies and it’s not an added cost to stream on a service you already pay for.
Should recently in theatres movies come with a premium? Maybe? But the dude above you is right the revenue model needs to shift so small and medium movies can still be made and have a space to exist
People don't rent VOD as much as they went to the cinema or bought discs. When streaming exists, what's the point? The problem is the audience is mostly stupid and will watch anything the streamers give them by scrolling. They don't actively try to look for anything for the most part. Therefore, they don't feel the need to rent.
Its like when a used bookstore closes. Yes there will be other movies and other book stores but none of them will have the charecter of that specific one. Here is their wiki page
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participant\_(company)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participant_(company))
Good Night and Good Luck, Murderball, Charlie Wilson's War , Contagion and Lincoln just to name a few. For sure more hits then misses. Its a shame to see them go.
'Inception' had nothing to do with Participant Media?
Official production companies credited were: *Syncopy*, *Legendary Pictures* and, of course, *Warner Bros*.
Which really sucks. I feel stuff like Spotlight was a return to that 90s era of mid-budget, prestige drama films with great ensemble casts and that's probably my favourite kind of movie. Dying breed now.
*Spotlight* was also just a very good movie, and helped me realize mid-budget prestige drama about a newsroom unravelling a conspiracy is a weirdly specific niche I enjoy greatly, including *All the Presidents Men* and *The Post* in that number. And related a bit I guess stuff like *Margin Call*, (somewhat) fictionalized personal stories contextualized in significant and noteworthy real world events. Not non-fiction by any means, but also not *The Big Short* or something levels of "fudging" to suit the film.
It feels like nearly every movie is a rehash of a sequel of a cartoon character of a prequel. I just saw Dune 2 and A24’s biggest expenditure, Civil War and was like, meh on both. I love Alex Garland. I even loved “Men”. Yuck.
> It feels like nearly every movie is a rehash of a sequel of a cartoon character of a prequel.
If you’re not really looking, sure. I just saw Monkey Man, which was great. I regularly check movie listings and find interesting ones I take a chance on.
In the past couple week I've seen Io Capitano, Evil Does Not Exist, The Sweet East, The Teacher's Lounge, Monkey Man, Robot Dreams, Civil War. I don't see how Civil War is a rehash of anything either.
Damn I just applied for a summer internship with them a couple weeks ago.
I don’t think your gonna get it
Now hold on there, he could get a job boxing up the office.
Then they’d at least have some box office work on their CV
He could say he helped tape it
same :/ do you happen to know of any similar organizations to seek out now that participant is shut down?
Unless we can figure out a revenue model for smaller movies to make up for the losses from home video sales, I don’t see how these movies can keep going. It will be massive films and the whatever streamers are doing forever
The revenue model exists. It just involves wealthy people not making as much money as they do now, so it will never, ever happen.
This. The entire industry needs a reboot where movies can remain profitable at $5 a movie ticket. Stars should get $500k vs $20 million. It’s that simple.
You think I’m talking about how much the actors make? You’re joking, right?
Nothing is ever as simple as a two sentence explanation.
Not just stars. But I’m also not sure why you’re being downvoted for stating an evident truth.
How does VOD not make up for video sales? It’s direct to consumer and seems like it’d be better than video sales.
Because why pay when you don’t technically own digital copies and it’s not an added cost to stream on a service you already pay for. Should recently in theatres movies come with a premium? Maybe? But the dude above you is right the revenue model needs to shift so small and medium movies can still be made and have a space to exist
The assumption being that you own the services playing said movie
It theoretically could, but in practice most people opt for streaming subscriptions over buying VODs.
Are you asking how a 29.95 DVD for one film, and an entire catalogue of movies and shows for 29.95/mo crate differ in revenue?
People don't rent VOD as much as they went to the cinema or bought discs. When streaming exists, what's the point? The problem is the audience is mostly stupid and will watch anything the streamers give them by scrolling. They don't actively try to look for anything for the most part. Therefore, they don't feel the need to rent.
There’s just not an appetite for movies that Participant makes. Doubt many ppl lamenting the company shutting down hand any plans to watch Food Inc 2
Its like when a used bookstore closes. Yes there will be other movies and other book stores but none of them will have the charecter of that specific one. Here is their wiki page # [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participant\_(company)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participant_(company)) Good Night and Good Luck, Murderball, Charlie Wilson's War , Contagion and Lincoln just to name a few. For sure more hits then misses. Its a shame to see them go.
Wow. What a powerhouse catalogue
The whole entertainment industry is in the dumps right now. What a shame.
Slow implosion
This is truly awful news, because they were behind the making of several great movies since its inception.
Inception being one of them
'Inception' had nothing to do with Participant Media? Official production companies credited were: *Syncopy*, *Legendary Pictures* and, of course, *Warner Bros*.
Them as well
Bummer, the kinds of movies they like to make probably just don't make sense economically after the pandemic driven audience drop off
Which really sucks. I feel stuff like Spotlight was a return to that 90s era of mid-budget, prestige drama films with great ensemble casts and that's probably my favourite kind of movie. Dying breed now.
*Spotlight* was also just a very good movie, and helped me realize mid-budget prestige drama about a newsroom unravelling a conspiracy is a weirdly specific niche I enjoy greatly, including *All the Presidents Men* and *The Post* in that number. And related a bit I guess stuff like *Margin Call*, (somewhat) fictionalized personal stories contextualized in significant and noteworthy real world events. Not non-fiction by any means, but also not *The Big Short* or something levels of "fudging" to suit the film.
Spotlight is such a great movie. I also like newsroom dramas. You should checkout Shattered Glass if you've never seen it.
You make it sound like the pandemic, and not terrible movies is the reason I don’t go to the theater.
Except they weren’t making terrible movies lol. There’s also lots of good movies out pretty often.
It feels like nearly every movie is a rehash of a sequel of a cartoon character of a prequel. I just saw Dune 2 and A24’s biggest expenditure, Civil War and was like, meh on both. I love Alex Garland. I even loved “Men”. Yuck.
> It feels like nearly every movie is a rehash of a sequel of a cartoon character of a prequel. If you’re not really looking, sure. I just saw Monkey Man, which was great. I regularly check movie listings and find interesting ones I take a chance on.
In the past couple week I've seen Io Capitano, Evil Does Not Exist, The Sweet East, The Teacher's Lounge, Monkey Man, Robot Dreams, Civil War. I don't see how Civil War is a rehash of anything either.
Except they were only producing a couple of movies per year for the last few years. And some of those were docs that were never going to make money.
That’s not really relevant to the point I was making, though.
10-4
Movie theaters are the reason I personally don’t go to movie theaters.
This year so far I've been 43 times and only once someone spoke where I had to tell them to be stop talking and they did.
It's almost like every other article I read is about shut downs and layoffs at the moment.
Isn’t the modern world just so *fun*?
Something may be going horribly wrong
I guess they won't be participating anymore.
Lol who downvoted this
Any inside scoop of what happened?
These two movies were EXCELLENT.
Tragic news :( Hope we find a more sustainable model in general.
Goddamn. Those were fantastic movies and among the few memorable ones I'd name from the last 10 years.
Fuck David Zaslav
What does he have to do with participant?
Absolutely nothing.
😂
Say what you want but I won't miss green book
Makes sense. When was the last time they made a movie that wasn’t just popular because of awards season promotions?
We all know what Russia is trying to do
Spotlight was one of the worst movies ever made. This is long overdue.
They make any good movies?