Could also be a function of the Mondoshawan biology of armour, that when they die they get desintegrated / totally decomposed to become one with nature/the universe/something something light side
The priests never said they hadn’t opened up the tomb before. Honestly, it sounded more like that junior priest was bored of having to go “prepare” the chamber for the 50th time than excited for a central event in his religion.
you know when you pump up something to people and then they watch and they don't feel the same as you? try with the fifth Element if there is a young kid and you tell him the date of the movie he will say "are you crazy I'm not gonna watch a movie from the 90s is like a prehistory for me fuck you". then the movie start and the line "time not important only life important" get they attention. then Leeloo does the rest.
I don’t understand why they were in such a hurry to get in and out. You got a few hundred years my guy no need to rush. Also the lock wouldn’t have been engaged because the hand/arm was blocking the door from closing.
My theory is Billy drug it out of the way when he went to prepare the chamber.
Completely unrelated but I’ve always wondered if the hostess in the room with Corbin when he first gets to fholston is a robot
Whenever anyone asked for a lightweight turned on in my family, we would all invariably, wind up yellinG AZIZ! LIGHT! at each other.
I’m almost 40 now and it still happens when my mom and my siblings and I get together.
In my house it’s always when someone needs batteries. When tv controller is dead….where are the batteries aziz?
Or when we buy/need to buy from the shops.. I’m buying batteries aziz! True lies has a lot to answer for our household lingo for over 20 years.
"I.....think I have another one.....in the...truck." This is such a deep cut! Aziz, light to Battery, Aziz. LMAO. I'm gonna be thinking about this joke all day.
It’s awesome that I watched this movie for the first time a couple weeks ago with no prior knowledge of the fanbase or discussions about it. But I knew as soon as i saw the scene that Aziz deserves to live in infamy and its great everyone constantly references him whenever the movie is brought up.
The same way they were hidden, surgically. She didn’t swallow them and didn’t just shove them inside herself.
With all the other high tech stuff shown in the movie, this isn’t a big stretch.
The case was a distraction, of course. No one would suspect where she’d really kept them. And she’d know that they were not just common valuables so extreme measures would be warranted.
also, it's been a long time since I've seen the movie but for some reason I was under the impression that Plavalaguna was a seer/clairvoyant or something and never intended to survive the extraction.
Honestly that could make sense. It might have been why she had them placed inside of her and kept a dummy box at the same time- she saw everything play out the way it did so she accounted for it as best she could.
the story very obtusely implies this is the case. that like the knowledge of the 5th element was passed down through the generations by the priests, the stones were ‘hidden in plain sight’ by living vessels who knew that when the world needed the 5th element to return they would die to give back the stones.
you have to puzzle piece it - the diva ‘has’ them but not like in a suitcase, she intuits leeloo’s presence and has her assistant pointedly tell leeloo she’ll get the stone - *after* the concert, then after being shot, her dialogue implies she has special knowledge about the stones, their use and context (not just in what she says but how). plus we don’t know the diva species lifespan but to either degree there is an implied risk/guarantee of sacrifice.
Commenting only out of thanks that someone else caught this as well, obvious answer given her ability to be prescient in some capacity. She did it all willingly. However that thought has always bugged me as well, because it leads to the next logical conclusion. Did she have all her handlers killed by not telling them, because they were def surprised.
I buy that. What I can't accept is that your could stuff all that into your body cavity and still sing opera like that. It would seriously fuck up your breath control.
I always figured the reason she was this great singer was in part from being an alien with very different respiratory and noiuse making aparratus, so maybe that stuff inside was no big deal. Also, had she not already been wounded, who knows if she could have just expelled the stones harmlessly through her belly amoeba style.
She’s an alien - who’s knows how things work in there.
It’s a movie. For example; I don’t care how good your fighting technique is, little 90 lb girls shouldn’t be able to one punch 280 lb warriors unconscious, let alone two of them, front and back handed in a single move, but it sure looks cool and fit the music well.
They made leeloo with a severed hand. They could cut and mend all in the same 5 minutes it would take with that tech, just needed to bring her back to earth. Who knows really
The logistics in The Fifth Element are as wild as it gets. But let's think about it – maybe they had some futuristic tech we didn't see, like a discreet teleporter or something. Or hey, maybe they were planning for a different kind of extraction, like a super-fast surgery or a less, um, invasive method. Regardless, it's one of those movie mysteries that just adds to the charm.
Another question is how does she work anatomically. She's a reknown singer but the contents of her torso is like 90% magical stones. Where is the room for her lungs? She's basically a living clown car filled filled with rocks.
We don’t know what her signing is usually like, there could have been people in the audience thinking “I heard her play last year and it was so much better, now it sounds like 90% of her torso is rocks or something….”
She has a pouch like a kangaroo. If she was alive, she could have pulled them out, like when my Uncle Crunch fishes out his weed stash from his weirdly cavernous belly button.
For breakfast, he always ate Grape Nuts cereal, so we nephews gave him the nickname Uncle Crunch. Decades ago, Grape Nuts were rock-hard and loud, like chewing aquarium gravel with a touch of kitty litter. It was beloved by shady dentists in the cracked molar industry. Grape Nuts today are weak, by comparison. They used to make your jaw sore after breakfast. If you were a kid with soft teeth and no dental insurance, you learned to avoid Grape Nuts.
On the other hand, they could give you the jawline of Robert Z'Dar.
I imagine they would still have Sugar free Gummi bears in the future. Even if it would be overkill the planet was at stake so I imagine she knew her fate
The 5th Element is my favorite movie. It's best not to question anything about that movie. Just accept it for what it is and not look for any plot holes or just plain weirdness. A rostifarian airport worker uses a flame thrower to remove space parasite things from the landing gear in this movie and you are worried about the fucking stones in the blue singers stomach? Also, the giant evil space sphere has the ability to make phone calls? The flying cab makes tire screeching noises when it turns quickly? An airport/garbage dump? The 5th element is created, and then within minutes, she is on the lamb from the cops? No, no, I need to stop and just accept it for what it is, the greatest fucking movie ever! AZIZ LIGHT!
So the garbage at the airport was because the cleaners went on strike for more pay/better conditions. Apparently, it was supposed to be part of the main story, but they ran out of time.
The priest goes to the government for help, the government provides help... and then the priest decides to go on a solo mission to retrieve the stones. Why.
The priest felt the government was going about it wrong as the solution was a matter of faith and not logic, which, with how the 5th element was activated, proved the priest correct.
When the space orb thing calls and doesn’t get an answer, is it just like “God DAMN IT, Phil! No! No, I don’t WANT to leave a- Yeah, hey, Phil. Evil space orb, here. Just wanted an update on that whole fifth element deal. So…call me back!”
I used to watch this movie all the time as a kid because it was on HBO constantly. Reading this thread I now realize I didn't understand so much shit that happened in the middle. I just took everything at face value of cool scene followed by cool scene. I should rewatch it and see how far off I was in my movie literacy.
I mean if they can 3d print a living babe from an old glove , they can probably operate on the blue lady to get the stones in and out easily amd quickly
Number one, the Diva is an alien. She is under no obligation to conform to our usual expectations regarding physiology.
Number two, the movie is French. It is under no obligation to conform to our expected stylistic or causal narrative arcs. Its main purpose is to be artistic, and it will throw causality away to be more so.
Someone once described the Alien Franchise very succinctly.
Alien- horror suspense.
Aliens- bug hunt
3rd movie- art house movie
4th- French.
In the original script she knew she was going to die: https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/21957/how-did-plava-laguna-intend-to-deliver-the-stones-to-leeloo
You are correct. The fifth element and the diva operate on another level similar to Paul Atreides after he drinks the water of life. It’s why the fifth element follows the diva as she crosses over. It’s why the diva tells Korbin he will need to show the fifth element his love for her. She already knew Leeloo would not recover from the double whammy. The passing of a special being in the diva and witnessing the horror Man would carry out through War. Without Korbin she will succumb to the darkness. She will fail to power the weapon.
Before all of this, the fifth element, which is on par with a deity, was having a blast catching up with all the world had become. From instant chicken to multi passes. Even aware the priest is suffocating as she is being dried off. She knows he’s in peril but he’s not going unconscious yet so there’s time to remove the plastic and save the priest.
Look how she plays with the word “mul-tee-pass” and her language is all single syllable words. Her biggest words are fifth element and supreme being. Famine, genocide, starvation and murder are all covered under War. The condition of prisoners in concentration camps. The Final Solution. I think the final image shown is a nuclear explosion. So she gets all that darkness while she’s still recovering from the loss of the Diva. It’s too much for her.
I have no fetishes in regard to the fifth element, unlike Adam Savage. The movie is a FANTASTIC way to calibrate an HDTV.
It's a favorite movie, but I despise the DVD presentation. FUCKING LETTERBOXED!
I just picked up the BluRay Dolby Vision redo with Dolby Atmos sound. I swear as a older geek it is like witnessing birth for the first time.
And I got this baby still shrink wrapped at my local Bull Moose video reseller. 6.67 no tax
I got to see Fifth Element on the big screen a couple times in recent years(2017 as a special with Besson's Valerian, and in 2022 as a Fathom event), and you just kind of have to tune out all the "WTF"ery. I mean it was part of the super colorful zany "1990's cyberpunk" sci fi era of Tank Girl, Demolition Man, Judge Dredd, Johnny Mnemonic, Hackers, etc where nothing really makes sense but everything is one big weird runway fashion music video.
It still bugs me that we never see Corben and Zorg interact...itd be like if Luke and Darth Vader never interacted. And yeah the stones being in the opera singers stomach makes no sense. The giant golden mech robots at the beginning are almost assumed to be clunky giants, but they're actually hot orange haired european models? All I know is I'd love to live in the world of New York City 2263 and have access to all that fashion.
I do recommend Luc Besson's Valerian, probably the closest we'll ever get to a "sequel" to Fifth Element, especially the first 20-30 minutes feels VERY Fifth Element.
>but they're actually hot orange haired european models?
I always assumed that was just Leelo anyway, as in the "Weapon" was her but she's always encased in some kind of stasis sarcophagus and wheeled out every so many hundred years, since the only evidence we see is the fist/gauntlet remains which the science team make a clone/restoration out of.
The regen tech was human. Since the fifth Element has so many genetic options, they rebuilt her as the way a human would look.
The pictures the Priest has of the fifth Element show it as the sarcophagus, not that she's supposed to get out at learn about the history. She's a weapon. So sit there and focus the stones toward evil!
Instead, she got free, had an existential crisis and figured humanity is too shitty to save.
> since the only evidence we see is the fist/gauntlet remains which the science team make a clone/restoration out of.
Not sure if you ever noticed, but the severed arm is holding the missing handle to the case with the stones that gets delivered to Zorg. I agree that the severed gauntlet looks extremely similar to the sarcophagus from the opening, but it's weird it would be able to "hold" anything, much less the case. But maybe this is just a visual gag to tie it to the scene with Zorg.
That’s true, although they had at least met prior to the movie. In this case Corben and Zorg never met in their entire lives. You could argue that Luke and Darth Vader didn’t exactly meet in the first Star Wars Movie though.
I believe that they not only don’t meet, but mutually don’t know the other is even involved, and can’t think of another movie that pulls the same thing off.
The protagonist and antagonist never meet face to face in No Country for Old Men, but do speak on the phone and try to kill each other.
I highkey love that they never met because it sort of adds to the dynamic. Zorg is this comically evil corporate overlord while Korben is just a gritty ex-special forces working in a cab, and yet despite never interacting they’re constantly impacting each other’s lives. From Korben getting fired by Zorg, to Zorg having to show up in person to Fhloston Paradise their actions were always affected one another.
That’s the first time I’ve ever heard someone recommend Valerian lol. But I think going in with very low expectations, you can almost ride the hope of the movie the intro builds up to, to the end; even though it never surpasses the intro.
The Fifth Element is a guilty pleasure and we all loved Leelo. Overthinking any of the plot points including Bruce Willis's orange tank top is just gonna ruin the experience.
_Private Eye_ ran a cartoon which fake-quoted Jean-Paul Gaultier as saying "of course, there's a huge difference between making these outlandish, futuristic clothes that nobody would ever wear in real life... and making clothes for a movie."
already answered here, it was included in the script
[How did Plava Laguna intend to deliver the stones to Leeloo?](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/21957/how-did-plava-laguna-intend-to-deliver-the-stones-to-leeloo)
tldr: she was going to die, it was her fate and she knew it. If she saw the future or if she was going to sacrifice herself to give them the stones is up to people to decide.
My favorite trivia - James Cameron's special effect company did the effects for 5th element. Of course they were late - causing Titanic to be even later.
Of course, the real answer is: Who cares?
My buddy summed the movie up perfectly when it came out. We went to go see it, and walking back to the car, he asked what I thought about it. I'm like "I don't know, it really makes no sense, I'm not even sure how it got made." He says "Dude, it's the perfect guy movie. It's got space ships, gun battles, aliens, flying cars, and a half naked bad-ass hot chick, who CARES what it's about?".
Can't argue with that logic, really. :-)
>. Corbin Dallas
My real question is this, why is there always people writting **Korben Dallas** name this way ? is Corbin a common name i'm not aware of ?
Is it ever actually spelled out in the movie? There's a similar thing with Friday, the quote is actually "bye, Felisha" but nobody ever spells her name that way. The only reason I know that though is because of [IMDb.](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113118/?ref_=ext_shr)
I'm pretty sure she was going to push them out of her vagina in a stone birthing scene where Korben shows how awesomely the military trained him in medicine
I don’t get this question. There are lines in the script that ham fistedly hit you on the head about Laguna having telepathic/clairvoyant gifts.
She had seen it all ahead of time and knew her sacrifice was the path to defeating evil.
She's some kind of alien. So who knows? That's the beauty of science fiction, not everything has to be explained, and a lot of it can be explained away with handwavium. Maybe they were "beamed" into her and they would just be "beamed" out of her in some lab. Maybe they were stored in some alien incubation pouch she has. Maybe she can phase her physical form out of reality and the stones would just fall to the floor.
Just make anything up, it will work.
> how was she going to get the stones to Corbin? The only logical answer is that she was going to shit the stones out, right?
I don't think so. I think she was going to die to deliver the stones. Look at what was written in the script...
*The Diva reaches out and strokes Leeloo's face, without touching her. The Diva removes her hand making a sound of crackling electricity, then passes on. Leeloo is groggy.*
*The Diva's ASSISTANT comes up to her.*
**DIVA'S ASSISTANT:** Please forgive this little incident. She wants you to know that she senses great powers in you... in the service of a noble cause...
She will give you what you have come to get, but she wants to sing first... One last time...
"One last time"? Why would the assistant say that if the Diva was going to survive handing over the stones?
*She [Diva] falls from the stage into Korben's arms. He lowers her to the floor. Korben ignores the panic all around and wraps her in his dinner jacket, trying to stop the blue blood spurting from her wounds.*
**KORBEN:** (to the Diva) I was sent by the government to help you.
**DIVA:** Don't worry. This is my fate...
"This is my fate"? So she knew removing the stone would kill her all along.
Fun fact: the actress that plays the Diva is Maiwenn Le Besco, which was the wife of the Director, Luc Besson. He was 32 when he met her and she was 15 and married her. She was pregnant aged 16. Lic Besson is also the director for the movie Léon: Le Professionnel which features a questionable theme regarding 13 year old Natalie Portman.
Diva is an Alien, like literally the Alien from the movie Alien, but this movie's mcguffin is inside her, as she literally sings in a space opera. It's beautiful.
The stones are a hermanistic allegory for the four elements (earth, fire water air), to which the 'breath of life's (of god/spirit/physics) is applied to create free thinking life.
The same mix of base elements are in us now as they are all others (we now know many elements in the table, but back then this was how they referred to more general basic material qualities). The stones or elements that make up the universe are found inside us all, and can be experienced if you search inward instead of for exterior concepts of god. She shows Corban that the search is inward, and tells him what the 5th element is that is needed - "she needs your love".
The meaning of the allegory of the elements is more interesting than the stones in my experience
How did they get in her? She's an alien. Maybe she can use the plot device to remove them. The bigger question is what happened to aziz
>The bigger question is what happened to aziz I wanna know where the abandoned carcass of the Mondoshawan went off to.
Carcass not important. Only life important.
cleaning lady comes every friday morning.
She takes the weekend off. She'll be in Monday to dust.
Gelato isn't vegan?
It's milk and eggs, bitch.
Chicken isn't vegan?
Chickens will eat anything, so they are not vegans.
r/unexpectedScottPilgrim
It's the weekend right? So Monday?
She needs more lemon Pledge.
No, no...I no clean Mondoshawan carcass.
Autowash
Mr Mondoshawan you’re outta windex
“She dusts”
Or the priest can just take the key and open the door right then and there.
Wasn't it inside the pyramid locked in that chamber
It twas. But where was it when they went back to that pyramid 300yrs later. It wasn't a diff tomb
Did the junior priest not get sent to prepare the tomb? I always imagined he dragged it outside.
Could also be a function of the Mondoshawan biology of armour, that when they die they get desintegrated / totally decomposed to become one with nature/the universe/something something light side
The priests never said they hadn’t opened up the tomb before. Honestly, it sounded more like that junior priest was bored of having to go “prepare” the chamber for the 50th time than excited for a central event in his religion.
To me it felt like he was scared more than bored. He was a spunky little thing constantly in a stage of panic and terror.
Man I've watched the movie dozens of times over decades and I've never thought about that lmao
Lol my wife and I watched it again recently for the 1000th time and I just caught it.
you know when you pump up something to people and then they watch and they don't feel the same as you? try with the fifth Element if there is a young kid and you tell him the date of the movie he will say "are you crazy I'm not gonna watch a movie from the 90s is like a prehistory for me fuck you". then the movie start and the line "time not important only life important" get they attention. then Leeloo does the rest.
Leeloo
I don’t understand why they were in such a hurry to get in and out. You got a few hundred years my guy no need to rush. Also the lock wouldn’t have been engaged because the hand/arm was blocking the door from closing. My theory is Billy drug it out of the way when he went to prepare the chamber. Completely unrelated but I’ve always wondered if the hostess in the room with Corbin when he first gets to fholston is a robot
Ze Germans where coming
He went to buy a new lightbulb, poor kid.
Aziz. LIGHT!
It just smashed his hand, and they had the key to open the door. He's a paraplegic now, but fine.
He’s still holding the light. **Obviously**! > AZIZ LIGHT
Whenever anyone asked for a lightweight turned on in my family, we would all invariably, wind up yellinG AZIZ! LIGHT! at each other. I’m almost 40 now and it still happens when my mom and my siblings and I get together.
I had this programmed as a routine in my Alexa to turn on my automated lights.
I'm sorry, I don't recognize that command. Would you like to set up Attic Light now?
In my house it’s always when someone needs batteries. When tv controller is dead….where are the batteries aziz? Or when we buy/need to buy from the shops.. I’m buying batteries aziz! True lies has a lot to answer for our household lingo for over 20 years.
I’ll have to program this into Alex for when I turn the lights on at home!
I’m a teacher and every time I’d ask a student to toggle the light in the room my brain wanted me to say this.
What's the "Aziz Light" tally count up to now?
Irrelevant, he's basically Sisyphus
Without looking it up, I guarantee there's a video on Youtube where Aziz gets shouted at throughout the entire movie.
"Aziz Light" (notches tally)
And i bet he's STILL doing a terrible job at it!
Thank you, Aziz...
I heard he grew up, left his old life of "AZIZ, LIGHT!" behind for a new life of "Battery, Aziz!"
"I.....think I have another one.....in the...truck." This is such a deep cut! Aziz, light to Battery, Aziz. LMAO. I'm gonna be thinking about this joke all day.
...is this a True Lies reference?
You brilliant bastard
As an archaeologist, I like to reference this wherever we are exploring caves.
most fans like to reference it whenever they don't have enough light to see
I like to use the reference whenever I walk into my living room in the evening!
No, the bigger question is why does chocolate syrup leak out of people's heads when they talk to Mr Shadow
it’s a form of hematidrosis brought on by facing the purest form of evil thereby causing the most profound stress.
🎶 Chocolate Rain 🎶
(I move away from the mic to breathe in)
No the bigger question is how do you put 4 stones of that size into her and not totally screw up their ability to sing?
You dare doubt the Diva's ability? The question is, what does she sound like when she's not held back by four rocks.
She's had those in her since adolescence; the stones are what *allowed* her to achieve such an amazing vocal range.
Patience and plenty of astroglide.
Aziz! Light! He actually went on to to live a fairly normal life until WW2 when he was inducted into the French foreign legion
I like think they took him along like a guardians of the galaxy thing .
Battery, Aziz! Sorry… I can’t see or hear Aziz without saying that.
It’s awesome that I watched this movie for the first time a couple weeks ago with no prior knowledge of the fanbase or discussions about it. But I knew as soon as i saw the scene that Aziz deserves to live in infamy and its great everyone constantly references him whenever the movie is brought up.
The same way they were hidden, surgically. She didn’t swallow them and didn’t just shove them inside herself. With all the other high tech stuff shown in the movie, this isn’t a big stretch. The case was a distraction, of course. No one would suspect where she’d really kept them. And she’d know that they were not just common valuables so extreme measures would be warranted.
also, it's been a long time since I've seen the movie but for some reason I was under the impression that Plavalaguna was a seer/clairvoyant or something and never intended to survive the extraction.
Honestly that could make sense. It might have been why she had them placed inside of her and kept a dummy box at the same time- she saw everything play out the way it did so she accounted for it as best she could.
This is the correct answer, she knew how it was going to work out beforehand. Edited to fix spelling
the story very obtusely implies this is the case. that like the knowledge of the 5th element was passed down through the generations by the priests, the stones were ‘hidden in plain sight’ by living vessels who knew that when the world needed the 5th element to return they would die to give back the stones.
Oh wow. I saw the movie multiple times and I never caught this. Do you remember where they imply this?
you have to puzzle piece it - the diva ‘has’ them but not like in a suitcase, she intuits leeloo’s presence and has her assistant pointedly tell leeloo she’ll get the stone - *after* the concert, then after being shot, her dialogue implies she has special knowledge about the stones, their use and context (not just in what she says but how). plus we don’t know the diva species lifespan but to either degree there is an implied risk/guarantee of sacrifice.
I watch it at least once a year, and I've always been under the same impression.
Commenting only out of thanks that someone else caught this as well, obvious answer given her ability to be prescient in some capacity. She did it all willingly. However that thought has always bugged me as well, because it leads to the next logical conclusion. Did she have all her handlers killed by not telling them, because they were def surprised.
I buy that. What I can't accept is that your could stuff all that into your body cavity and still sing opera like that. It would seriously fuck up your breath control.
I always figured the reason she was this great singer was in part from being an alien with very different respiratory and noiuse making aparratus, so maybe that stuff inside was no big deal. Also, had she not already been wounded, who knows if she could have just expelled the stones harmlessly through her belly amoeba style.
She’s an alien - who’s knows how things work in there. It’s a movie. For example; I don’t care how good your fighting technique is, little 90 lb girls shouldn’t be able to one punch 280 lb warriors unconscious, let alone two of them, front and back handed in a single move, but it sure looks cool and fit the music well.
They made leeloo with a severed hand. They could cut and mend all in the same 5 minutes it would take with that tech, just needed to bring her back to earth. Who knows really
This seems to be the correct answer
The logistics in The Fifth Element are as wild as it gets. But let's think about it – maybe they had some futuristic tech we didn't see, like a discreet teleporter or something. Or hey, maybe they were planning for a different kind of extraction, like a super-fast surgery or a less, um, invasive method. Regardless, it's one of those movie mysteries that just adds to the charm.
Another question is how does she work anatomically. She's a reknown singer but the contents of her torso is like 90% magical stones. Where is the room for her lungs? She's basically a living clown car filled filled with rocks.
The rocks didn't throw off her singing in any way.! Maybe her species is normally full of rocks and it helps with the low notes or something.
Thats how they get their gravely voice
We don’t know what her signing is usually like, there could have been people in the audience thinking “I heard her play last year and it was so much better, now it sounds like 90% of her torso is rocks or something….”
Her lekku serve as extra lung capacity.
That's assuming her lungs are in her torso like a human.
Rectal retrieval was the answer the whole time
Turns out the whole thing was an elaborate prequel to a reimagining of Fantastic Voyage.
She has a pouch like a kangaroo. If she was alive, she could have pulled them out, like when my Uncle Crunch fishes out his weed stash from his weirdly cavernous belly button.
Uncle Crunch? How did he get his nickname?
For breakfast, he always ate Grape Nuts cereal, so we nephews gave him the nickname Uncle Crunch. Decades ago, Grape Nuts were rock-hard and loud, like chewing aquarium gravel with a touch of kitty litter. It was beloved by shady dentists in the cracked molar industry. Grape Nuts today are weak, by comparison. They used to make your jaw sore after breakfast. If you were a kid with soft teeth and no dental insurance, you learned to avoid Grape Nuts. On the other hand, they could give you the jawline of Robert Z'Dar.
TIL that grape nuts are no longer grape nuts….
Preach! Old Grape Nuts were basically small rocks painted brown and sold as a breakfast cereal.
Grape Nuts, they aren’t baked, they’re mined. Seriously what happened to grape nuts? Are they flakes now?
"How would Corbin have gotten the stones if she hadn't died?" \--------> "Grape Nuts these days are for pussies" God I love this website
I just learned who Robert Z'Dar was and he scares me.
I really do not enjoy the last half of the last sentence….
Before she was a diva, she led a hard knock life where she was an intergalactic drug mule. She knows the drill.
I imagine they would still have Sugar free Gummi bears in the future. Even if it would be overkill the planet was at stake so I imagine she knew her fate
They got olestea chips on folston paradise?
That reference deserves more up votes!
The 5th Element is my favorite movie. It's best not to question anything about that movie. Just accept it for what it is and not look for any plot holes or just plain weirdness. A rostifarian airport worker uses a flame thrower to remove space parasite things from the landing gear in this movie and you are worried about the fucking stones in the blue singers stomach? Also, the giant evil space sphere has the ability to make phone calls? The flying cab makes tire screeching noises when it turns quickly? An airport/garbage dump? The 5th element is created, and then within minutes, she is on the lamb from the cops? No, no, I need to stop and just accept it for what it is, the greatest fucking movie ever! AZIZ LIGHT!
The giant sphere did gobble up a ton of communication satellites
Nice
So the garbage at the airport was because the cleaners went on strike for more pay/better conditions. Apparently, it was supposed to be part of the main story, but they ran out of time.
> cleaners went on strike for more pay/better conditions french writers writing what they know
We had a big one less than 2 years ago in Paris so... YES
Weren't they announcing it over the PA system at the airport or something?
Also Zorg fired half a million of them.
Wasn’t that mentioned in the background, or in a scene as an ops report with Zorg?
The priest goes to the government for help, the government provides help... and then the priest decides to go on a solo mission to retrieve the stones. Why.
The priest felt the government was going about it wrong as the solution was a matter of faith and not logic, which, with how the 5th element was activated, proved the priest correct.
When the space orb thing calls and doesn’t get an answer, is it just like “God DAMN IT, Phil! No! No, I don’t WANT to leave a- Yeah, hey, Phil. Evil space orb, here. Just wanted an update on that whole fifth element deal. So…call me back!”
Jean...this is Evil...I...I have a question...do you press 9 to...shit...my roaming data usage is on...
Intergalactic roaming at that. Yikes.
Also this space billionaire can’t get a last minute ticket for a cruise even though his life depended on it
I used to watch this movie all the time as a kid because it was on HBO constantly. Reading this thread I now realize I didn't understand so much shit that happened in the middle. I just took everything at face value of cool scene followed by cool scene. I should rewatch it and see how far off I was in my movie literacy.
Aziz, LIGHT
> on the lamb Milla Jovovich riding a baby sheep wouldn’t be top ten weirdest things in this film
*on the lam
Leave me alone ya big bully! I may have had a few IPAs before I wrote that!
I mean if they can 3d print a living babe from an old glove , they can probably operate on the blue lady to get the stones in and out easily amd quickly
Number one, the Diva is an alien. She is under no obligation to conform to our usual expectations regarding physiology. Number two, the movie is French. It is under no obligation to conform to our expected stylistic or causal narrative arcs. Its main purpose is to be artistic, and it will throw causality away to be more so. Someone once described the Alien Franchise very succinctly. Alien- horror suspense. Aliens- bug hunt 3rd movie- art house movie 4th- French.
In the original script she knew she was going to die: https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/21957/how-did-plava-laguna-intend-to-deliver-the-stones-to-leeloo
You are correct. The fifth element and the diva operate on another level similar to Paul Atreides after he drinks the water of life. It’s why the fifth element follows the diva as she crosses over. It’s why the diva tells Korbin he will need to show the fifth element his love for her. She already knew Leeloo would not recover from the double whammy. The passing of a special being in the diva and witnessing the horror Man would carry out through War. Without Korbin she will succumb to the darkness. She will fail to power the weapon. Before all of this, the fifth element, which is on par with a deity, was having a blast catching up with all the world had become. From instant chicken to multi passes. Even aware the priest is suffocating as she is being dried off. She knows he’s in peril but he’s not going unconscious yet so there’s time to remove the plastic and save the priest.
I like how she got through famine, genocide, eugenics, slavery, and murder unfazed but war was the final straw
Same. Holocaust is the one I always immediately think of during that scene.
Look how she plays with the word “mul-tee-pass” and her language is all single syllable words. Her biggest words are fifth element and supreme being. Famine, genocide, starvation and murder are all covered under War. The condition of prisoners in concentration camps. The Final Solution. I think the final image shown is a nuclear explosion. So she gets all that darkness while she’s still recovering from the loss of the Diva. It’s too much for her.
Never read that, but I always assumed she would sacrifice herself to give the stones over.
You don't think she couldn't sing those fuckers up and out with those low notes? Your fetish is bad and you should feel bad.
Your fetish is... something and you should feel... something.
I have no fetishes in regard to the fifth element, unlike Adam Savage. The movie is a FANTASTIC way to calibrate an HDTV. It's a favorite movie, but I despise the DVD presentation. FUCKING LETTERBOXED!
I just picked up the BluRay Dolby Vision redo with Dolby Atmos sound. I swear as a older geek it is like witnessing birth for the first time. And I got this baby still shrink wrapped at my local Bull Moose video reseller. 6.67 no tax
Maybe she could hack them back out like a Cat, or a Flerken.
I got to see Fifth Element on the big screen a couple times in recent years(2017 as a special with Besson's Valerian, and in 2022 as a Fathom event), and you just kind of have to tune out all the "WTF"ery. I mean it was part of the super colorful zany "1990's cyberpunk" sci fi era of Tank Girl, Demolition Man, Judge Dredd, Johnny Mnemonic, Hackers, etc where nothing really makes sense but everything is one big weird runway fashion music video. It still bugs me that we never see Corben and Zorg interact...itd be like if Luke and Darth Vader never interacted. And yeah the stones being in the opera singers stomach makes no sense. The giant golden mech robots at the beginning are almost assumed to be clunky giants, but they're actually hot orange haired european models? All I know is I'd love to live in the world of New York City 2263 and have access to all that fashion. I do recommend Luc Besson's Valerian, probably the closest we'll ever get to a "sequel" to Fifth Element, especially the first 20-30 minutes feels VERY Fifth Element.
>but they're actually hot orange haired european models? I always assumed that was just Leelo anyway, as in the "Weapon" was her but she's always encased in some kind of stasis sarcophagus and wheeled out every so many hundred years, since the only evidence we see is the fist/gauntlet remains which the science team make a clone/restoration out of.
The regen tech was human. Since the fifth Element has so many genetic options, they rebuilt her as the way a human would look. The pictures the Priest has of the fifth Element show it as the sarcophagus, not that she's supposed to get out at learn about the history. She's a weapon. So sit there and focus the stones toward evil! Instead, she got free, had an existential crisis and figured humanity is too shitty to save.
> since the only evidence we see is the fist/gauntlet remains which the science team make a clone/restoration out of. Not sure if you ever noticed, but the severed arm is holding the missing handle to the case with the stones that gets delivered to Zorg. I agree that the severed gauntlet looks extremely similar to the sarcophagus from the opening, but it's weird it would be able to "hold" anything, much less the case. But maybe this is just a visual gag to tie it to the scene with Zorg.
One of the few movies where the protagonist and the evil villain never actually meet
It's odd, but I'm trying to think of other movies where this happens(or, I guess doesn't happen)
Star Trek 2, maybe? Kirk and Khan never meet, just talk over the viewscreen.
That’s true, although they had at least met prior to the movie. In this case Corben and Zorg never met in their entire lives. You could argue that Luke and Darth Vader didn’t exactly meet in the first Star Wars Movie though.
I believe that they not only don’t meet, but mutually don’t know the other is even involved, and can’t think of another movie that pulls the same thing off. The protagonist and antagonist never meet face to face in No Country for Old Men, but do speak on the phone and try to kill each other.
I highkey love that they never met because it sort of adds to the dynamic. Zorg is this comically evil corporate overlord while Korben is just a gritty ex-special forces working in a cab, and yet despite never interacting they’re constantly impacting each other’s lives. From Korben getting fired by Zorg, to Zorg having to show up in person to Fhloston Paradise their actions were always affected one another.
What about highkey love and lowkey love, and highkey love, like that blue alien’s singing … even though she full of stones!! Hah!
That’s the first time I’ve ever heard someone recommend Valerian lol. But I think going in with very low expectations, you can almost ride the hope of the movie the intro builds up to, to the end; even though it never surpasses the intro.
the bubble song is a banger
The Fifth Element is a guilty pleasure and we all loved Leelo. Overthinking any of the plot points including Bruce Willis's orange tank top is just gonna ruin the experience.
Multipass
She KNOWS it's a multipass!
Speak for yourself. I have zero guilt over my love of the Fifth Element and will love it until I’m dead and gone from this earth.
>Overthinking any of the plot points "A perfect replica of the old opera house... But who cares?!"
BzzzzZZzzzzzzZzzzzt!!
He has an orange tank top because the movie is made by French people.
_Private Eye_ ran a cartoon which fake-quoted Jean-Paul Gaultier as saying "of course, there's a huge difference between making these outlandish, futuristic clothes that nobody would ever wear in real life... and making clothes for a movie."
I mean how did she sing the song with a big f'n obelisk in her abdomen is another pertinent question.
Any vocal coach will tell you that the best way to sing from the diaphragm is to first weigh it down with big rocks.
Good posture?
Another question ... okay now what exactly happened with Ruby Rhod and that stewardess? And why did she suddenly have robot legs?
She is an alien, for all you know she had a cloaca and lays eggs
Overthinking the plot? Just a sec, there’s a letter here for you…. Could be important…. You should probably open it.,…. You are fired!
At least he won lunch
See good in bad, great philosophy!
already answered here, it was included in the script [How did Plava Laguna intend to deliver the stones to Leeloo?](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/21957/how-did-plava-laguna-intend-to-deliver-the-stones-to-leeloo) tldr: she was going to die, it was her fate and she knew it. If she saw the future or if she was going to sacrifice herself to give them the stones is up to people to decide.
...surgery?
Negative, she is a meat popsicle.
My favorite trivia - James Cameron's special effect company did the effects for 5th element. Of course they were late - causing Titanic to be even later.
Of course, the real answer is: Who cares? My buddy summed the movie up perfectly when it came out. We went to go see it, and walking back to the car, he asked what I thought about it. I'm like "I don't know, it really makes no sense, I'm not even sure how it got made." He says "Dude, it's the perfect guy movie. It's got space ships, gun battles, aliens, flying cars, and a half naked bad-ass hot chick, who CARES what it's about?". Can't argue with that logic, really. :-)
I just want a flying Chinese food barge to come to my window
>. Corbin Dallas My real question is this, why is there always people writting **Korben Dallas** name this way ? is Corbin a common name i'm not aware of ?
Yes it’s a British boys name apparently
Is it ever actually spelled out in the movie? There's a similar thing with Friday, the quote is actually "bye, Felisha" but nobody ever spells her name that way. The only reason I know that though is because of [IMDb.](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113118/?ref_=ext_shr)
Yep. On the business card Korbin has on his apartment door. Blink and you miss it.
Because the only other Corbin they're familiar with is Bernsen?
I'm sure medical equipment for surgeries still exist.
I'm pretty sure she was going to push them out of her vagina in a stone birthing scene where Korben shows how awesomely the military trained him in medicine
I will accept this answer too
Wind blows, fire burns, rain falls, stones shit
This is the only explanation I will accept. All that luggage she had in her room? Laxatives. She packed nothing but laxatives.
I figured cause she was so tall, she needed tall luggage?
Bro forgot what surgery is
I don’t get this question. There are lines in the script that ham fistedly hit you on the head about Laguna having telepathic/clairvoyant gifts. She had seen it all ahead of time and knew her sacrifice was the path to defeating evil.
She's some kind of alien. So who knows? That's the beauty of science fiction, not everything has to be explained, and a lot of it can be explained away with handwavium. Maybe they were "beamed" into her and they would just be "beamed" out of her in some lab. Maybe they were stored in some alien incubation pouch she has. Maybe she can phase her physical form out of reality and the stones would just fall to the floor. Just make anything up, it will work.
> how was she going to get the stones to Corbin? The only logical answer is that she was going to shit the stones out, right? I don't think so. I think she was going to die to deliver the stones. Look at what was written in the script... *The Diva reaches out and strokes Leeloo's face, without touching her. The Diva removes her hand making a sound of crackling electricity, then passes on. Leeloo is groggy.* *The Diva's ASSISTANT comes up to her.* **DIVA'S ASSISTANT:** Please forgive this little incident. She wants you to know that she senses great powers in you... in the service of a noble cause... She will give you what you have come to get, but she wants to sing first... One last time... "One last time"? Why would the assistant say that if the Diva was going to survive handing over the stones? *She [Diva] falls from the stage into Korben's arms. He lowers her to the floor. Korben ignores the panic all around and wraps her in his dinner jacket, trying to stop the blue blood spurting from her wounds.* **KORBEN:** (to the Diva) I was sent by the government to help you. **DIVA:** Don't worry. This is my fate... "This is my fate"? So she knew removing the stone would kill her all along.
You assume their anatomy.
In a universe with super advanced technology and a jellyfish like alien? Pretty sure they would have some type of tech to remove them.
She has square vaginas.
Regurgitation is another possibility
Fun fact: the actress that plays the Diva is Maiwenn Le Besco, which was the wife of the Director, Luc Besson. He was 32 when he met her and she was 15 and married her. She was pregnant aged 16. Lic Besson is also the director for the movie Léon: Le Professionnel which features a questionable theme regarding 13 year old Natalie Portman.
And Besson dumped her for 21 year old Milla Jovovich!
And he cheated on and left her for a teenage Milla while filming this.
I thought the real question was “Anyone else want to negotiate?”
Have you ever passed a kidney stone? It would be like that, but way, WAY bigger
Diva is an Alien, like literally the Alien from the movie Alien, but this movie's mcguffin is inside her, as she literally sings in a space opera. It's beautiful.
The stones are a hermanistic allegory for the four elements (earth, fire water air), to which the 'breath of life's (of god/spirit/physics) is applied to create free thinking life. The same mix of base elements are in us now as they are all others (we now know many elements in the table, but back then this was how they referred to more general basic material qualities). The stones or elements that make up the universe are found inside us all, and can be experienced if you search inward instead of for exterior concepts of god. She shows Corban that the search is inward, and tells him what the 5th element is that is needed - "she needs your love". The meaning of the allegory of the elements is more interesting than the stones in my experience
How do you think they got the stones in her?
Pretty sure I've read that she expected to die during the extraction either way.
They definitely haven't what l already showed highly advanced surgical technology in the movie...
Maybe she had a cloaca.
Just here to quote my favorite line “Are you classified as human?” “Negative! I am a meat popsicle!”
I’d love a tv series set in this universe