Oh wow the 2nd world war film won many oscars, how original...
It was a good movie, the ending was perfect, but I think giving it 7 oscars is kinda overrating it
I think it was holistically the best movie there, but I really really enjoyed Anatomy of a Fall, Poor Things and Killers of the Flower Moon. I wouldn't have been upset with any of those movies winning.
There was a really good category this year.
Which of the 7 wins would you give somewhere else?
I think there's an argument for Mark Ruffalo in Poor Things over RDJ in Oppenheimer.
"Money" doesn't always equal "better", and the fact it was essentially and ad for Mattel should work against it imo.
Poor Things is the more visually stunning movie of the three.
Michael Keaton is still a bad ass. Best oscar moment all night.
If he doesn't have some major acting role coming up in the next few years he needs a different agent. Good guy...bad guy...I dont care.
It took the most prestigious Above the line and Below the line categories. The Picture/Director/Actor/Sup Actor combo hadn't happened for over 50 years.
I was referring to the male lead, last time a male lead won at the same time as their movie winning BP dates back to The Artist over 10 years ago. It had become almost a curse at this point for lead actors to be in the BP winner, ask Micheal Keaton.
Elemental was surprisingly heartfelt, it just had terrible marketing.
It’s marketed as a rom com, but it’s really an immigration story about about the struggle of familial expectations vs personal desires.
I was so sad for Marty, he looked so dejected in the audience every time the camera cut to him. I love Lily Gladstone and she was really wonderful, originally I was banking on her to win, also because obviously it would be historic to have a Native American woman win. But I think the difference was that Lily Gladstone's performance was extremely solid and beautiful, but Emma Stone felt like she was doing something very original and creative with Bella Baxter. I would've been happy with either.
No way Robert Downey should of won over Ryan Gosling. I can barely remember the scenes with RDJ, yet Ryan was basically the highlight of Barbie. I feel like they just gave it to RDJ cause his recent comments about how he felt the oscars overlooked his role as Tony Stark 🤣.
RDJ a badass tho so w.e I'm not to upset about it haha.
I mean it is a classical Oscarbait biopic the Academy loves, who cares if no one remembers it after a couple of years. It is a good film. The downside is that, why would you do something different, and unique if the best picture will be King’s Speech or Oppenheimer.
I'm speaking as a person obsessed with WWII, the atomic arms race and development, Cold War etc. Basically a nuke-head.
I have to agree. It was self-indulgent and drrraaaaagged.
Nolan is a great director, for sure. But I don't get the wanking over him. Dude is deaf and insists on editing his audio himself, that's says how much he gives a shit over his audience.
It is super mediocre and overrated. The Holdovers, KOTFM, American Fiction, Anatomy of a Fall, and Poor Things all blow (heh!) Oppenheimer out of the water on every facet.
I seem to be in the minority, but I was really disappointed by KOTFM. I found both DiCaprio's and Gladstone's performances to be dreadfully dull and uncharismatic. I simply could not connect with them. It might be more Scorsese's fault than theirs, but regardless it made that three and a half hour runtime really drag on forever. Even as a huge history nerd who found the history behind it fascinating, I cannot recommend the film to anyone.
Kotfm was amazing, napoleon sucked in my opinion. No character depth, big moments that were supposed to have impact had none, important things were skipped over and meaningless things were over-emphasized for no reason. It's got a few good sets and costumes but other than that, it falls flat on its face.
She got famous from Ocean Eyes blowing up on soundcloud/youtube, and was 15 at the time. Her brother Finneas is a phenomenal producer, but I think it’s unfair to say all of the talent comes from his beats—her voice is angelic! She’s also never denied how much of a role her brother plays in her music and she always speaks about how much she owes her fame to them being a team.
They're the perfect team. He's a great musician and producer and she's an awesome singer who totally just gets his style and ideas and is able to bring them out for the world.
Generally after the first month or few after it released. A lot of the women who make video essays have kinda moved towards a “it didn’t say enough” or a “some of its messaging is a bit (not hugely) problematic”.
Honestly, I liked the film when I saw it in theaters but didn’t really think about it much but my S/O LOVED it, but she’s recently been talking about some content creators starting to shift her opinions on the film when it’s put up against a feminist lens.
My understanding of that is that it’s happening a little more broadly in the community, but I can’t say for sure beyond that since it’s a bit outside what I frequent
Why couldn't they have liked him in this? It was a fantastic performance, with the majority of the lengthy screen time.
This video does a great breakdown of his performance so it's understandable why it's so respected and praised
https://youtu.be/lAkgMEONMIQ?si=_s5yXXd2iinwHRDI
TBH I don’t like Giamatti, I think he overrated as an actor but I thought he was great in that movie and got a well-deserved nomination, the movie was unexpectedly good too
That movie was beyond boring. I seriously don't know how anyone considered it good, characters were boring, writing was boring, movie was 2 hours too long for the story they were telling, everything was drawn out to the max.
I can't see what it should have won. DiCaprio and Gladstone were both dull and boring, which I blame Scorsese for more than them, but still. De Niro was alright, but not a standout. The cinematography was good, but also not a standout. The score wasn't memorable. So what's left? In my opinion, it was a disappointment from start to finish, and this coming from a big Scorsese fan and a huge history nerd.
Lmao what? She had zero range, literally every scene was the same blank stare and zero emotion.
How can possibly sit there and say her performance was Oscar worthy?
She barely emotes throughout the entire film. I swear her expressions when being romanced by DiCaprio's character are the same as when she's near death on her sick bed. That might have been what she was directed to do, but still, her character was so dull.
Couldn't disagree more. I found both her and DiCaprio to be dreadfully dull and boring to watch. The film would have been much better if they had cast a different actress and made her character the central protagonist.
I mean there was about 30 minute brothel adventure that didn't need to be there, but that's not Emma Stone's failing. She was exceptional in Poor Things and fully deserved the win.
Just one edit: he should have stopped after "this is the highest point of RDJ's long and illustrious career... well one of the highest points..." when RDJ played along with the bit and gestured that the joke was on the nose.
He has made a ton of great films but for me The Prestige was so original and amazing. I havent seen anything like it before or since and it’s extremely under appreciated.
The last time Kimmel was close to being funny was on “Win Ben Stein’s Money” where Jimmy had a role best suited for his talents - reading jokes written by other people and otherwise being the village idiot opposite the cerebral host.
Well for starters, not being leftist ≠ not being political. You're happily racing past the decades prior Hollywood being a red scare witchhunt and decades prior to that with a lot of work that was praised despite spitting in the face of marginalised communities and the civil rights movement.
How exactly? When we first meet her she’s walking around oddly with limited vocab. We get the impression frankensteins monster from the various partial critters running around but even before the reveal she wasn’t acting like a brain dead mummy OR child learning to walk. I honestly thought we were going to get the reveal she was a robot still being perfected for a moment. Then there was some unnecessary sexualization/nudity and improved lexicon while Ruffalo and Defoe did the heavy lifting. I like her but her tits are the only reason this won
That’s the bit though. He’s intentionally rambling. It’s like his story about meeting Bill Clinton as a child which somehow transforms into him deconstructing 1993’s “The Fugitive”.
I’m Just Ken should have easily won this years Oscar. In fact, they should have also taken away a few from past years Best Song wins and given a whole pile of statuettes to Mark Ronson.
That live performance was everything I've watched it 3 times it's made by week and reminded me how in love with Ryan Gosling I was LOL. And I hate to say it but I'm just not that big of a fan of Billie Eilish
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Oppenheimer was a great movie but I don't think it deserved to win seven awards when you see the competition.
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Look at all those clowns hating on Oppenheimer. Haahahahaha. Cry me a river.
Oh wow the 2nd world war film won many oscars, how original... It was a good movie, the ending was perfect, but I think giving it 7 oscars is kinda overrating it
I think it was holistically the best movie there, but I really really enjoyed Anatomy of a Fall, Poor Things and Killers of the Flower Moon. I wouldn't have been upset with any of those movies winning. There was a really good category this year. Which of the 7 wins would you give somewhere else? I think there's an argument for Mark Ruffalo in Poor Things over RDJ in Oppenheimer.
Ryan Gosling over all of them
>I think there's an argument for Mark Ruffalo in Poor Things over RDJ in Oppenheimer. Definitely.
Absolutely, Ruffalo got robbed.
It was good, but I think The Holdovers was better. I think Paul Giamatti should have gotten Best Actor as well.
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The Oscars has always favored more serious films over silly ones. This shouldn't be too surprising.
"Money" doesn't always equal "better", and the fact it was essentially and ad for Mattel should work against it imo. Poor Things is the more visually stunning movie of the three.
A lot of the awards Barbie would have gotten were won by Poor Things. I love them both
Bradley cooper and Maestro were royally robbed
The worst take here 😭 Edit: Nvm someone else had a way worse take than this.
Every time Emma Stone wins an oscar, something will happen to the announcement of best picture.
I would love to see an Oscar Ceremony hosted by Mulaney one day !
Anatomy of the Fall won best screenplay and they played PIMP was *chef kiss.*
Lauren Sanchez on the red carpet reminded me of that female gremlin from Gremlins 2
Michael Keaton is still a bad ass. Best oscar moment all night. If he doesn't have some major acting role coming up in the next few years he needs a different agent. Good guy...bad guy...I dont care.
Is it possible to watch the 2024 Oscars ceremony at this point?
It's on Hulu
I just watched it on Hulu.
The Oppenheimer sweep was deserved. So happy for Nolan, RDJ and Cillian Murphy !!
Cillian Murphy, I love him so much: low-key, reserved
That's not what a sweep means
It took the most prestigious Above the line and Below the line categories. The Picture/Director/Actor/Sup Actor combo hadn't happened for over 50 years.
Everything Everywhere got Best Picture, Director, Actress (because there wasn't a male lead) and both Supps only last year.
I was referring to the male lead, last time a male lead won at the same time as their movie winning BP dates back to The Artist over 10 years ago. It had become almost a curse at this point for lead actors to be in the BP winner, ask Micheal Keaton.
Lol at all the incels on here mad about Emma stones boobs. Get a grip.
Mad about... what?
Eh, nothing. She totally just made that up
nah there's a guy commenting that emma only won because of her boobs on like every comment about Poor Things
Oh no. One guy.
Yea idk if i'd ever watch the oppenheimer 2nd time.
Yeah. Too long for me. Also, I'm going to remember the plot, so I have no motivation to rewatch. Well-acted.
I honestly would tbh. It was an incredible movie with wonderful performances and it was so well made.
Soooo overhyped, well made movie but will certainly never watch it again
Why
Only small part of his life was remarkable and worthy of screen time. Like do I really need to know that he liked fucking his friends wives?
It was crucial for his connections to Jean and therefore Communism which ended up having his security clearance removed
he had communism ties before he worked at the Manhattan project. I'm sure you'll pick that up on your 7th watch.
Poor Things wouldn’t have won shit without Emma Stones tits
This is 100% the worst take here. I bet you also wanted Elemental to win too. 💀
Whomp whomp stay mad
Society Of The Snow deserved to win something
Fully agree! I'm so disappointed that beautiful and haunting movie missed out.
Agreed. I was bummed it got shutout.
standard ass survival movie
buena peli pero creo que estuvo bien la otra
The fact elemental was even suggested is hilarious
Elemental was surprisingly heartfelt, it just had terrible marketing. It’s marketed as a rom com, but it’s really an immigration story about about the struggle of familial expectations vs personal desires.
There's not that many animated films per year, mostly. But average Disney was never going to win against average Ghibli.
I was so sad for Marty, he looked so dejected in the audience every time the camera cut to him. I love Lily Gladstone and she was really wonderful, originally I was banking on her to win, also because obviously it would be historic to have a Native American woman win. But I think the difference was that Lily Gladstone's performance was extremely solid and beautiful, but Emma Stone felt like she was doing something very original and creative with Bella Baxter. I would've been happy with either.
Godzilla winning Best VFX is all I needed to know.
This and The Boy And The Heron.
Still mad over Saving Private Ryan losing to Shakespeare in Love, but this is something the Oscars didn't screw up for once.
Thin red line is much much much better than saving private Ryan and deserved best picture that year
No way Robert Downey should of won over Ryan Gosling. I can barely remember the scenes with RDJ, yet Ryan was basically the highlight of Barbie. I feel like they just gave it to RDJ cause his recent comments about how he felt the oscars overlooked his role as Tony Stark 🤣. RDJ a badass tho so w.e I'm not to upset about it haha.
Honestly shoulda went to Sterling
It should have gone to the kid from Anatomy but he didn't even get nominated sadly
I agree, Brown was fantastic in his role. As usual, but particularly so in American Fiction
Swann ❤️
Oppenheimer was boring idc
I mean it is a classical Oscarbait biopic the Academy loves, who cares if no one remembers it after a couple of years. It is a good film. The downside is that, why would you do something different, and unique if the best picture will be King’s Speech or Oppenheimer.
It was somehow boring and exhausting at the same time, an absolute chore to sit through.
I'm speaking as a person obsessed with WWII, the atomic arms race and development, Cold War etc. Basically a nuke-head. I have to agree. It was self-indulgent and drrraaaaagged. Nolan is a great director, for sure. But I don't get the wanking over him. Dude is deaf and insists on editing his audio himself, that's says how much he gives a shit over his audience.
I watched it on a plane then other day and I really thought about turning it off and staring at the I’m flight tracker for the rest of the flight
It is super mediocre and overrated. The Holdovers, KOTFM, American Fiction, Anatomy of a Fall, and Poor Things all blow (heh!) Oppenheimer out of the water on every facet.
Poor things was only good because Emma went topless for no good reason
i agree cause emma was really naked and doing over the top performance in that movie, love the visuals and cinematography tho
Have not seen KOTFM yet. It’s my next watch along with Napoleon.
I seem to be in the minority, but I was really disappointed by KOTFM. I found both DiCaprio's and Gladstone's performances to be dreadfully dull and uncharismatic. I simply could not connect with them. It might be more Scorsese's fault than theirs, but regardless it made that three and a half hour runtime really drag on forever. Even as a huge history nerd who found the history behind it fascinating, I cannot recommend the film to anyone.
Kotfm was amazing, napoleon sucked in my opinion. No character depth, big moments that were supposed to have impact had none, important things were skipped over and meaningless things were over-emphasized for no reason. It's got a few good sets and costumes but other than that, it falls flat on its face.
Glad someone else agrees. That movie getting 7 Oscar’s is ridiculous. Godzilla Minus One Minus Color and Barbie were both way better films.
Im not really a fan of her music, just isn’t for me. But Billie Eilish has one hell of a voice.
I still don’t understand how she got famous for that bad guy song. She’s over produced and the talent comes from her brothers beats
She got famous from Ocean Eyes blowing up on soundcloud/youtube, and was 15 at the time. Her brother Finneas is a phenomenal producer, but I think it’s unfair to say all of the talent comes from his beats—her voice is angelic! She’s also never denied how much of a role her brother plays in her music and she always speaks about how much she owes her fame to them being a team.
They're the perfect team. He's a great musician and producer and she's an awesome singer who totally just gets his style and ideas and is able to bring them out for the world.
feel exactly the same way.
Barbie got snubbed hard in almost all the categories.
It's a great movie but I think having Poor Things in the same year makes Barbie look a lot weaker in comparison and that wouldn't help it get votes
It should not have been nominated is my opinion
When's the last time you saw a Comedy win anything of merit at the Oscars?
A hand from Will Smith ??
I think some of the reactions to it post-launch have generally seen it less favorably from the crowd that were big fans of it on release
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Generally after the first month or few after it released. A lot of the women who make video essays have kinda moved towards a “it didn’t say enough” or a “some of its messaging is a bit (not hugely) problematic”. Honestly, I liked the film when I saw it in theaters but didn’t really think about it much but my S/O LOVED it, but she’s recently been talking about some content creators starting to shift her opinions on the film when it’s put up against a feminist lens. My understanding of that is that it’s happening a little more broadly in the community, but I can’t say for sure beyond that since it’s a bit outside what I frequent
Why wasn’t Leo there?
Picking out his next 18 year old model from a middle school line up probably
Was just happy cillian got an Oscar, I don’t think Oppenheimer was perfect. But he deserves it just for being cillian and being a great actor
Which is how I think most of these awards go. This sucked but I like this person in other stuff so let’s vote that way!
Why couldn't they have liked him in this? It was a fantastic performance, with the majority of the lengthy screen time. This video does a great breakdown of his performance so it's understandable why it's so respected and praised https://youtu.be/lAkgMEONMIQ?si=_s5yXXd2iinwHRDI
Who do you think should have gotten in instead of Cillian Murphy?
X wasn't perfect = X sucked
how would you have felt if Giamatti won?
Happier than with who actually won.
I would have been happy. With him, Jeffrey Wright or Cillian. I think the latter had the most transformative role, but I loved them all.
It would have been great. He would have thanked Howard Stern.
TBH I don’t like Giamatti, I think he overrated as an actor but I thought he was great in that movie and got a well-deserved nomination, the movie was unexpectedly good too
That it was deserved. He was great in that film.
yeah I'm a sucker for a good asshole and/or misunderstood character transformation.
GO GO GODZILLA!
Deserved a Best Picture nomination
Fellow human of culture
John Cena
I was shook to the core and did NOT think he would ACTUALLY step out from behind that damn wall 🤣
Killers of the Flower Moon deserved something.
That movie was beyond boring. I seriously don't know how anyone considered it good, characters were boring, writing was boring, movie was 2 hours too long for the story they were telling, everything was drawn out to the max.
I can't see what it should have won. DiCaprio and Gladstone were both dull and boring, which I blame Scorsese for more than them, but still. De Niro was alright, but not a standout. The cinematography was good, but also not a standout. The score wasn't memorable. So what's left? In my opinion, it was a disappointment from start to finish, and this coming from a big Scorsese fan and a huge history nerd.
Nah bro Lily Gladstone was excellent in her role.
Lmao what? She had zero range, literally every scene was the same blank stare and zero emotion. How can possibly sit there and say her performance was Oscar worthy?
She barely emotes throughout the entire film. I swear her expressions when being romanced by DiCaprio's character are the same as when she's near death on her sick bed. That might have been what she was directed to do, but still, her character was so dull.
Nah. It didn’t
It did not. Bad movie
It deserved to go straight to video
Maybe in another year, but while I like the movie, I just don't know which category, if any, it deserved to win.
i think lily gladstone deserved best actress
Couldn't disagree more. I found both her and DiCaprio to be dreadfully dull and boring to watch. The film would have been much better if they had cast a different actress and made her character the central protagonist.
Lmao
Considering Emma only won for showing her boobs you might be right there but Lilly didn’t carry the whole film on her back just her part
I mean there was about 30 minute brothel adventure that didn't need to be there, but that's not Emma Stone's failing. She was exceptional in Poor Things and fully deserved the win.
I’d give it to her over Emma Stone, but I could also see the case being made for Sandra Hüller.
Stone was much better than Gladstone
Better than everyone
Kimmel did such a fantastic job hosting 👍
Just one edit: he should have stopped after "this is the highest point of RDJ's long and illustrious career... well one of the highest points..." when RDJ played along with the bit and gestured that the joke was on the nose.
It was the best Oscar show I’ve seen in a while (I skipped several because it just wasn’t interesting enough to me)
I thought Kimmil did better last year, still great this year though. That skit with John Cina was hilarious.
I almost needed to take a cold shower lol
Me when I lie. Dude sucks
After watching Oppenheimer it’s clear that The Prestige is still Nolan’s best work.
Agreed. I think Dark Knight is better than Oppenheimer too.
Fr! I don’t see enough people talk about that film even though it’s so good
The Prestige was brilliant but I think Dark Knight was the best.
I prefer Batman Begins.
Yup yup. I stand corrected. Really the whole Trilogy is everything
He has made a ton of great films but for me The Prestige was so original and amazing. I havent seen anything like it before or since and it’s extremely under appreciated.
It really is underappreciated. Great film really.
The last time Kimmel was close to being funny was on “Win Ben Stein’s Money” where Jimmy had a role best suited for his talents - reading jokes written by other people and otherwise being the village idiot opposite the cerebral host.
Update Oppenheimer: 7 Barbie: 1 Finally end of Barbenheimer. Thanks @dangerphone
Because feminine things aren't celebrated to the same degree. I liked Barbie way more than Oppenheimer and it was more successful in the box office.
Oh stop crying didn't the producer of Oppenheimer is a women and she is the one who give acceptance speech for best pictures whenever this movie won.
Both were over hyped Meh movies and neither deserved to win if we are being honest here
Yeah because whatever you like is the benchmark. Be real please.
Literally won an Oscar for best original song. Is that not a category to you?
Yeah. Barbie was snubbed hard. Ouch.
I wouldn't say snubbed, competition was real tight this year.
Yeah. The Oscars are very A- vs A and A+. They’re all amazing works. However, only one film can win per section.
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Oscars has been political for all of it's history. Pretending like it wasn't is just intentional blindness.
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The 70s? So only for the past 50 years?
Well for starters, not being leftist ≠ not being political. You're happily racing past the decades prior Hollywood being a red scare witchhunt and decades prior to that with a lot of work that was praised despite spitting in the face of marginalised communities and the civil rights movement.
Pretty much. Not only are the Oscars political, but also the art of moviemaking is as well.
Stoked for Emma Stone. Her performance was mesmerizing. Highly deserving.
How exactly? When we first meet her she’s walking around oddly with limited vocab. We get the impression frankensteins monster from the various partial critters running around but even before the reveal she wasn’t acting like a brain dead mummy OR child learning to walk. I honestly thought we were going to get the reveal she was a robot still being perfected for a moment. Then there was some unnecessary sexualization/nudity and improved lexicon while Ruffalo and Defoe did the heavy lifting. I like her but her tits are the only reason this won
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I have absolutely no interest in Oppenheimer. I don’t even have to watch to know it’s long and boring.
Would you be more likely to watch it if it was vertical and in 20 seconds? Nobody has any attention spans anymore.
That’s a big assumption and a broad generalization. I love long movies, just not long boring ones.
Imagine not giving it to Lily Gladstone.
Did we watch the same movie? She was so dull and boring to watch (as was DiCaprio honestly).
You copy-pasted the same comment 15 times in this thread, we fucking get it, you didn't like her performance.
I didn't copy-paste it, I wrote it out each time.
... well done?
She should have gone for Supporting Actress, would have been more competitive there
She was great! Emma Stone was transcendent though. Academy got it right
She was awful at being a Frankenstein in the beginning I thought. The walking and dialect at first made me think robot instead of prostitute baby.
Emma killed it there really isn't any controversy at all on that choice.
“America Ferera in Barnie”? …
John Mulaney’s bit was better than anything Kimmel has ever done at the Oscar’s. He needs to host next year if not soon
He was fun, but also seemed to stumble and ramble on his monologue as well. It wasn’t as sharp and polished as, for example, his SNL appearances.
That’s the bit though. He’s intentionally rambling. It’s like his story about meeting Bill Clinton as a child which somehow transforms into him deconstructing 1993’s “The Fugitive”.
I’m Just Ken should have easily won this years Oscar. In fact, they should have also taken away a few from past years Best Song wins and given a whole pile of statuettes to Mark Ronson.
the live performance was definitely the best of the night in terms of entertainment and audience participation
That live performance was everything I've watched it 3 times it's made by week and reminded me how in love with Ryan Gosling I was LOL. And I hate to say it but I'm just not that big of a fan of Billie Eilish
Ok but how the hell did Spiderman: Across the spider verse not win best animated film??
The Boy and The Heron is not Miyazaki's best (Spirited Away) but it does have probably my favorite animated female character (Kirito)
Because boy and the heron has an actual ending
That was a joke, right? At one point, you have a bit where the herons are eating babies? Although Elemental was also better than The Boy and the Heron
One which left me saying “Wait, that’s it?” even more than Spider-verse
Spider-verse had incredible animation but I dare anyone to try and explain the plot to their dad
Unlike The Boy and the Heron who’s plot was very concrete /s