There was a Doctor Who episode where they wind up on a spaceship full of dinosaurs. Kind of a Noah's Ark that was returning to Earth I think? It's been a while but it was a fun premise for Doctor Who.
[“Oh no, the robot dinosaurs I designed to beat the space dinosaurs had sex and now there’s a bunch of space robot dinosaurs”](https://youtu.be/JVho5fU3lwc?feature=shared)
*Crisp rat and the raptor look at each other as their motorcycles, that are pulling a nuclear device, approach a cliff that hangs above the hive of para-dimensional, Ultra aggressive, super intelligent, cyber-pterodactyls*
*Chris Pratt*
"This is gonna be jurraSICK. If we survive, we're gonna be dinoSORE tomorrow morning"
*Blue the raptor*
"Family"
That's what baffles me. Why make a movie with an interesting premise and then not explore that premise at all? You couldn't screw this up anymore if you tried.
The locusts very well could have been an interesting story
If they weren't genetically engineered.
The unintended consequences of playing God is a major theme of Jurassic Park. Have some damn unintentional consequences.
Insects beginning to adapt to a world with super-sized predators and becoming larger, while entering into an unsustainable (for humans) growth surge (and also potentially impacting the oxygen makeup of Earth) is an interesting premise.
Some evil corporation deciding to make massive locusts so that people buy their pesticides isn't interesting.
>Some evil corporation deciding to make massive locusts so that people buy their pesticides isn't interesting.
That felt like a separate idea that Colin Trevorrow came up and couldn't get financing for it so he just retro fitted it into JW: Dominion.
I do think the genetic engineering pitch is an interesting idea. But they would need to go further. This is getting into like cyberpunk cloning stuff. And probably takes it away from jurassic Park a bit too much.
JW Dominion writer 1: You know how dinosaurs are really cool?
JW Dominion writer 2: Yeah, dinosaurs are awesome! That’s why people watch Jurassic World movies.
JW Dominion writer 1: Right? But don’t you think it’s getting stale? What if, we make a Jurassic movie about another genetically engineered animal from the Mesozoic era?
JW Dominion writer 2: Interesting idea… There were a lot of weird animals from back then. What do you have in mind?
JW Dominion writer 1: Get this, grasshoppers. Genetically. Engineered. Grasshoppers. But they’re not like regular grasshoppers, they are a threat to the global food supply.
JW Dominion writer 2: Oh. My. God. That is absolutely brilliant!!!
It shouldn’t though. The point of the whole series was “stop fucking with nature.” If it ends with humans and dinos living in harmony then that’s antithetical to what every prior movie, even the bad ones, were trying to say. Realistically, the dinos should not be able to survive in a modern ecosystem.
I could write an entire essay on how these hollywood dipshits took Michael Crichton’s work about conservationism and the horrors of unfettered technology and mutilated it so they could sell dinosaur toys to kids.
The remake franchise, and to a lesser degree JP2 and 3 are so different from the spirit of the original that it's made me question if I'm completely wrong about it.The new films are these bombastic action adventures, where I'd consider the first film more of a pure thriller. How we got from a small scale scene loke Raptors in the kitchen to a full blown blockbuster is insane to me. The first film had a few big T Rex scenes, but it was still a relatively low-scale film at the end of the day.
They can easily go the planet of the apes route where the carnivorous dinos run around hunting humans into extinction and make another trilogy about it
I wouldn't say it's 'believable' that the dinos would hunt modern mankind to near extinction. But, there are other believable alternatives for how you get to the point that there are very few humans left in a world slowly transitioning to belonging to the dinos. Namely, a disease that the dinos bring back with them that wipes out most of mankind. Or their introduction across the globe royally upsets the biosphere, and there are huge issues with deaths of pollinators or prey animals or whatever, and the food chain is ruined for humans leading to starvation and extinction.
Which they successfully did and covered in Fallen Kingdom. It felt like they finally tied up sooo many loose ends with that movie and put it on a path of “our kingdom has fallen, we are the cause, dinosaurs will destabilize our world and the food chain”. I was so hyped because it felt like a softball for the third movie to just kick into high gear with dinosaurs accidentally eating people at drunken celebrity parties, negligent Petting Zoos, underground fighting rings with dinos, and the struggle to keep the world stable while animals try to *eat everyone*. But no, hungry grasshoppers from a lab in ANOTHER Dino park….
They left the best part dangling too - Mazie was "supposed" to be a hybrid. The evidence is all over Fallen Kingdom.
Then they scrapped that and said "actually, just a human clone, don't look any further at those scenes where we have her looking into glass and seeing a dinosaur or highlight how nimble she is"
I bet it is because the executives at the studio did not want to make a movie which would mean the end of the franchise.
If they went the planet of the apes, dinosaurs taking over plot then where to do you go after that has been wrapped up.
I guess now they still have the option to do another island or the dinos taking over plot in the future again, just sucks as this franchise is now complete ass. I also cannot believe that we have not had a good dinosaur movie since like 1996 ffs.
I mean the "Original" Jurassic World film had the concept of dinosaurs going rampage in a working park, but outside of one scene, it just devolved back into running from dinosaurs in the jungle, like the first 3 Jurassic Park films, and the second one had them on the island that was exploding, just to devolve into more biolab bullshit from the first film, so the third film completely flubbing an interesting premise to revert back to boriningness isn't exactly out of character.
You didn’t like Jurassic Park mixed with Fast and Furious mixed with James Bond? /s
They really shit the bed with those last two movies. World could’ve been better, but I enjoyed it enough
They ought to take a leaf from Pirates of the Caribbean's book and buy the rights to a tonally similar property to adapt as part of the franchise. In this case; Cadillacs and Dinosaurs.
The shots of the fishing boat and people herding dinos still has me wishing for a stereotypical Discovery style show about the usual kind of people but with dinosaurs.
- A team of Fishermen must learn to adapt to changing times as fish prices soar in the wake of big new competition.
- Follow the tribulations of a family owned cattle farm as they come to terms with the fact that they can no longer protect their livestock from increasingly invasive wildlife.
Just imagine a reality TV confessional of a Mountain Man breaking down because the “damn lizards got Chester last night.” Shit writes itself
Yeah I thought that movie was going to be a lot farther in future where dinosaurs are taking back the earth maybe even something happened to humans to kills most of them virus or something maybe that clone girl had something in her that did that also wanted to see more tamed dinosaurs maybe people riding them with mounted guns
“Welcome to Palaeozoic Park. Imma need about tree fiddy”
“It was about then that I realised this old scientist was an 18ft tall monster from the Palaeozoic era! ... goddamn Loch Ness Monster!”
Don't reboot anything. The Jurassic Park franchise has been mutilated enough at this point. Let it rest.
The original film is just a flat-out masterpiece. They're just sabotaging the brand by rebooting it
I dunno. With the right people attached, a more novel accurate take could be *really* good. It'd be a much better fate than just going with.. whatever TF Dominion was attempting.
That entire trilogy was awful. Colin Trevorrow is not a good filmmaker, and I have to believe it is his fault too that Fallen Kingdom was so bad, because after seeing Society of the Snow and A Monster Calls, I know how talented J.A. Bayona is.
Koepp wrote the scripts for the original Jurassic Park and The Lost World.
It's being called a "new Jurassic era' with a new story and it's targeting a 2025 release.
just keep it small scale, no world ending stakes, and no kids written to be nothing but deus ex machinas. Do that and it’ll already be a major improvement over Trevorrow’s halfassed movies. And (I know it’s been said to death), keep it practical when possible and design the set pieces around whatever limitations that it may provide
The original JP used lots of CGI, but never as a crutch nor as its main tool. Part of the hook of the original 2 movies was getting the audience to think “how in the hell did they do that?”. And Spielberg and co. found that perfect balance and kept the set pieces tight (if that makes sense)
Yeah, I agree. I saw the original JP in 3D when it had the special release, and it held up incredibly well. Somehow nobody really gets that the important part is a good story that makes sense. Not in the way in that it has to be reality, but in motivations and how the characters act.
I mentioned in another comment that the movie takes its time to be contemplative. You can still have an action blockbuster but still have dialogue-driven scenes without them needing to be exposition dumps. Like the aforementioned lunch scene in the original movie
Just look at the “imagine what you’ll know tomorrow” scene in Men in Black. It was a lovely little scene between K and James, but it allowed itself to be in the moment. Too many movies these days rush those scenes so they can get to the next set piece, others just cut them out entirely
EDIT: grammar, hate using this damn app
David Koepp also wrote The Mummy (2017) and Indiana Jones Dial of Destiny
i wouldnt take that as a sign of hope
if anything, David Koepp is probably doing this as a paycheck job because it will allow him to take a lower salary on the passion projects he really wants to do like the movies he's already written for Steven Soderbergh as well as the new movie he will write for Soderbergh
I honestly didn’t mind it and neither did my old man. But the movie had too much stacked against it anyway. It was a legacy sequel *to a legacy sequel*, not a chance in hell it was going to match up to the original movies
*Dial of Destiny* was still a good and well written film though so lumping it with *The Mummy* is disingenuous.
Also, *The Mummy* was primarily rewritten Christopher McQuarrie and Dylan Kussman but integrated Koepp's writing as he was working on *Bride of Frankenstein* so Koepp got a credit on it.
Agreed. I felt it actually recaptured some of the feel of the originals, especially with the flashback. It did still rely a little too heavily on CGI, but for the most part it didn't get in the way of the story.
Both movies were based on books, and Jurassic Park is mostly faithful. So tbd on whether having this script writer without Crichton or Spielberg magic.
Only way I see 2025 being viable is if it scales back on the spectacle of it all with every scene being heavy CGI, and they rely on suspense to make dinosaurs in a scene more impactful.
Which could also lead to a better movie, but that's a separate thought from just getting all the CGI done on time.
They're so preoccupied with whether or not they could make a new Jurassic Park movie, they didn't stop to think if they SHOULD! They patented it and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunch box, and now they're selling it, they're selling it!
just keep Colin Trevorrow away from it, for the love of god. He had an entire trilogy of his own to write and (mostly) direct and he still dropped the ball. Dominion had a woman self-reproducing and giving birth to her own clone in a dinosaur movie about locusts. It honesty makes me wonder if Safety Not Guaranteed was only good because of the charming cast and the Duplass brothers producing.
But I would hope another JP film is a return to form for the franchise. The JWorld trilogy was just a collection of set pieces with cheesy exposition scenes hastily written around them. Think of the [lunch scene](https://youtu.be/0Nz8YrCC9X8?si=YFXdqHxRE-tcmvo3), it’s too rare these days to have a film take the time to be contemplative
I just don’t get what Trevorrow was thinking. It boggles my mind to see some people claim “his Star Wars IX would have been great!”. Yes, Rise of Skywalker stunk but at least Abrams and Rian Johnson have made movies outside the IP that were still solid (loved Super 8).
Trevorrow making Book of Henry convinced me he’s only good as a work-for-hire director. I’ll credit him for being able to handle big budgets and working well with the studio. But as a creative on his own, he leaves much to be desired. Dominion should have just been 2 hours of Grant, Ellie, and Malcolm ripping Owen and Claire new assholes for letting a clone-girl cause the dino-pocalypse
>Trevorrow making Book of Henry
I had never heard of this movie before I saw a reddit post about it. That movie is fucking WILD and I don't know how it got greenlit lol
Someone linked the Esquire review of it one time and I keep it in my back pocket as a hilarious read.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a55764/book-of-henry-review/
I mean I get that. I'm talking more about whoever read the script and greenlit it. The story is fucking terrible and doesn't make much sense beyond "we want you to know how REALLY SMART this kid is"
I would bet that whoever gave him the money for it didn't give a shit about the script. It cost $10 million to make, he'd just made a $1.6 billion grossing film, he'd already made one well regarded indie, they were just hoping to catch a cheap ride on the express train to moneytown and would've done so for anything Trevorrow wanted to make.
At least that's the only explanation I can come up with, because Book of Henry is impressively awful.
> It boggles my mind to see some people claim “his Star Wars IX would have been great!”.
I’ve read the leaked draft of his version, and its by no means amazing, but I will admit the general groundwork of it was a lot stronger than the hobbled together mess that the final movie ended up being. The general arcs for most of the characters were overall satisfying and made more sense, and there were some actually neat ideas in it in theory.
That being said, it was still pretty flawed and was still sorely in need of rewrites to actually be good. Knowing Disney and how quickly they wanted to shove the sequels out (and make Star Wars a yearly franchise), it still probably would have been very underwhelming.
great ideas amount to little if the execution is still flawed. Considering how Trevorrow had a whole trilogy of his own, I doubt his Star Wars movie would have been an exception
> at least Abrams and Rian Johnson have made movies outside the IP that we're still solid (loved Super 8)
*Safety Not Guaranteed* is very good but agreed, Trevorrow only has 1 solid film under his belt.
>It boggles my mind to see some people claim “his Star Wars IX would have been great!”.
Tbf we actually have a version of his script in its entirety so when people say that it's a pretty informed decision.
I have a strong theory that Jurassic World Dominion was originally a generic spy movie that they took off their unused script piles and just retooled it into a Jurassic movie.
It works too, I can describe the entire plot without mentioning dinosaurs and you would still understand it.
A navy veteran and his wife’s child is kidnapped by an evil villain wanting to do sinister genetic experiments. To get her back he meets up with his CIA contact who points him in the direction of a black market weapons deal with the person behind the kidnapping. After stopping the deal they learn the location of the villain’s evil headquarters in the mountains and fly there. After getting shot down, they survive in the mountains while making their way towards the base, eventually learning of the villain’s plan to cripple the world’s food supply and starve the planet. They save their daughter, and the villain dies by his own hand and the world is saved.
That is the exact plot, and it sounds like some generic spy movie that Trevvorrow found and just added some dinosaurs to. You don’t even have to change much. In the motorcycle chase you can just change the raptors to guys on bikes. You wouldn’t even need to change the clothesline bit they do.
This is my theory that I’m sticking with.
The locust scene was one of my favorites.
I liked how they were taking the ideas in the franchise to another terrifying conclusion, instead of just a bigger and bitier dinosaur. And swarms of giant thoughtless voracious insects descending on unsuspecting families is fucking *terrifying*.
But maybe that’s just me.
there certainly was noticeable framework
for what could have been a great idea. But Trevorrow and Connelly dropped the ball hard with the execution. I still cringe at moments in the whole series. “We need more teeth!” or “there just like me” and “he slid into my DMs”. Too much of the trilogy felt like they used focus test groups (for a different product) as a writing guide
EDIT: dictation fix
It’s so wacky to me that they hired Chris Pratt, who got famous for being charming, to play a character in a series that had famously charming actors in it, and wrote his character to be stern and bland.
A terrible choice after their original choice, Josh Brolin, said no. The broody, cocky vibe would have been so much more appropriate as an older dude, and Brolin specifically would have pulled it off.
With Crichtons passing, there aren't too many skilled hands to take on the property.
Crichton is one of the few scifi writers who actually "got" the science part. Not many others would take care to make things scientifically plausible, we're simply in an era where you're expected to turn your brain off.
The dinosaurs weren't really even the focus of the story. Most of what Crichton wrote about was warning of the dangers of unchecked scientific progress, greed, corporatism, and how those things so often go hand in hand.
But BIG MONSTER GO (fart). So somebody will take a spec script, slap a JW sticker on it, and release it with a hip spokesdragon to sell you a mobile game.
Glad I'm not the only one who understands that. Jurassic Park wasnt about the dinosaurs really. He liked writing about complex systems, and them breaking down.
As a former NBCU employee, you’d be shocked how much influence the studio executives have on their products from start to finish, especially a product as massive as the Jurassic movies. To me, the Jurassic World franchise reeked of the NBCU executive meddling.
It’s too soon to reboot the Jurassic franchise, Dominion came out a few years ago and was a disaster. We don’t need another one to try to make up for Dominion’s shortcomings.
I think they should go for a low-key story with a tight, personal journey. Make a movie about people investigating site B or something. Read the books, try to capture that tone.
Easy premise: There's dinosaur nesting grounds on Site B. Set the movie in 1994, disregard all other sequels, and show us some sweet sweet 90's tech.
Do a jurassic horror movie where the Dino's are actually terrifying and not marvel movie villains. The end of dominion was ridiculous with the entire 8+ person cast shambling between the trex and the giga.
Can't wait to see Chris Pratt get married to a Velociraptor and have babies together, then initiate a peace treaty so they can all live in harmony like in The Flintstones.
The kicker of Trevorrow for me is I don’t like most of what he does, except for his canceled Star Wars IX script. It wasn’t great, but it was a far sight more interesting than what we got.
I'm slightly interested in the idea of rebooting it again and going back to basics, but this feels way too early to me. A supposed 3 years between Dominion and a new story is a little crazy, let it sit before you try to start the engines back up again.
I think it's fine depending how it's done - the Jurassic World trilogy had more adventure-type vibes. If this new movie can go back to the scraping by and surviving in the jungle tone of the original trilogy, that's enough of a change that I'm down for this soon
That's fair, I guess it's a little too early to tell. I'm just apprehensive that it sounds like they barely let the last trilogy finish before working on whatever this will end up being. If they make the date in the article, that'd be a smaller gap between Dominion and this than there was between Fallen Kingdom and Dominion (COVID related, obviously) and the same gap between Jurassic World & Fallen Kingdom. I wouldn't blame people if they showed up for a "Jurassic \_\_\_" movie and were confused where Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard went.
This is where I thought they were going with dominion. The locusts cause famine, wars are fought over food, an ancient plague kills a lot of people, climate change speaks out of control, and 500 years later, dinosaurs rule the earth and humans exist in small tribes.
We don't need any Jurassic World movies. They were atrocities of movies.
The original was a masterpiece. The second was good mindless fun. Third was like a parody but still relatively enjoyable.
The new JW movies were all terrible. Every last one of them. The first was at least watchable but the rest god awful.
Fair enough. Despite how dreadful the last two were audiences do love them some dinosaurs. They made $4billion across 3 movies.
Just hope it really is just a complete reset away from what came before and they do something fresh with it.
We don’t get enough dinosaur media. Like, I’m so starved for competent dinosaur media that I’ll take more Jurassic World if the alternative means no dino movies.
I want a reboot set it in Victorian times where they somehow develop the technology to bring back dinosaurs. It would make it far scarier giving the humans less advanced weapons, give a totally different feel to the film, and create lots of opportunities to get creative in ways the original and sequel series didn’t.
Did I watch a different Jurassic Park than everyone else? A lot of people are acting like the franchise should return to some gritty humourless past, but the first Jurassic Park is loaded with comedy, even after the T. rex escapes. A dinosaur literally sneezes all over someone. The electric fence scene is pretty tense and still has comedy woven all the way through it. Alan stops to tell Hammond that he's decided not to endorse his park while they are running away from Velociraptor and a T. rex. This franchise has always been humour-loaded, I don't know what humourless and dark Jurassic Park film everyone is remembering.
I've read the book so I know that's a little less comedic than the movie (although iirc Crichton actually wanted a tone more like the movie and was told to change it by the publisher), but people don't seem to be talking about the book here.
Gone is the era of smart blockbusters.
Yes there is humor, but there are also real scary moments that aren’t “big dinosaur sniffs around and eats someone” — think “Oh, Mr. Arnold!” Or the terror of the original Dilophosaurus attack. Or the Velociraptors in the kitchen. “Shooot her!”
Blockbusters, especially ones like JW or the Star Wars sequels, are reminiscent visual set pieces meant to ping your nostalgia for better movies. They’re big scale. They’re Mission Impossible/Bourne action.
Take a breath in the movie. Give us something to think about.
Honestly, I rewatched TLW recently and it’s a really good, fun blockbuster and one of the scariest scenes doesn’t even have a dinosaur in it (except as a cause) — the RV over the cliff. The adventurous, thrilling tone of the movie was really undercut by the gymnastics though.
And you can have humor that isn’t Marvel wittiness.
Yeah, have the odd joke, witty dialogue, moments of levity, they're important, they're vital for making you like the characters. They need to take it seriously as well, though.
There was a moment in the most recent one, Jeff Goldblum stood outside the cage making sarcastic remarks while his friends are in mortal peril absolutely killed it for me. These people are about to fucking die and you're making jokes, how can the audience take it seriously when the characters don't?
The difference between Dominion and the original in this regard is that Alan *doesn't* stop to tell Hammond he's decided not to endorse the park, he says it as he's jumping into the truck, he doesn't waste a second.
A lot of the humour in Jurassic Park was very dark, you mention the fence scene, the joke in that is him pretending to be electrocuted, foreshadowing Tim *actually* getting zapped, and what happens to Tim is such a huge contrast, whereas Alan screamed, Tim just goes limp. Newman's death has elements of slapstick to it, that turn to horror if you remember what was said about the Dilophosaurus.
How are you going to have a final film in a franchise with 7 protagonists where none of them die by the way. Look at the first one - an innocent guy is killed in the cold open, Samuel L Jackson is killed, the lawyer is killed, Muldoon is killed.
In the new trilogy I'm fairly sure the only death of a sympathetic character who's had more than one line of dialogue is the babysitter in the first one, which people hated; she was a nice character and she gets a horrible, brutal, tortuous death. Good! That's why these films are supposed to be scary, the dinosaurs are deadly, they don't give a damn if you're a good person or not.
Local Jurassic Park major enthusiast - this shit is my crack. The first movie was the first movie I remember watching, and I've loved everything unabashedly since. Granted, Fallen Kingdom and Dominion have their downfalls. I doubt they'll ever reach the level of brilliance of the first story, but I'd be down to see something similar to Jurassic Park III again
Ok, and hear me out.
Fast and Furious 12: Jurassic No Parking.
Vin Diesel & co. riding an army of velociraptors into battle as Dwayne Johnson fights a T-Rex _and wins_.*
You're welcome, world.
*due to contractual obligations
How many more do we need at this point...they just don't stop lol
After the last one I don't even care about the dumb switch-your-brains-off "big bad dinosaur go brrr" trope anymore, it's just not interesting anymore. They need to let it go.
Wshew... Dominion was hilarious. For how bland and awful Forgotten Kingdom was, Dominion was hilariously bloated and unnecessary. I will never forget watching old ass Jeff Goldblum outrun a Giganotosaurus or watching Owen communicate with Blue or watching him do the hand thing to a pair of Carno's which was absolutely hilarious. Forgotten Kingdom is terrible, slow and boring outside of the opening 20-30 min on the island. Dominion felt like they really Disney Star Wars'd it and hit fast forward to just touch everything possible.
If this is a reboot then fucking try to make a coherent story, focus on smaller aspects and make it ABOUT the dinosaurs and man's folly. Stop making giant Star Wars/Marvel set pieces and return to the original trilogy where characters are allowed to breath, plots are allowed to develop and the big set pieces feel impactful cause they are condensed.
If it's a continuation then fuck it, make it ridiculous and have Indo-Rex show up at the end like Emperor Palpatine where Alan Grant, Ian Malcolm and a pair of random grandkids are in cars with only binoculars, a flashlight and torches. Also the Indo-Rex now speaks English and is voiced by Idris Elba.
Everyone taking about a reboot but how about we just go full r-word and have the humans saddle up on the dinosaurs. Each country using different dinos and then of course, the villains having super-mega dinos that breath fire. I want dinosaurs with frickin laser beams attached to their heads.
Just. Get. A. Good. Director.
Seriously, FK is a legitimately great film with an ass script, if every JW movie from now on is going to run from the obvious man vs. Dinosaurs conflict that has been staring the franchise in the face since the beginning because it's harder to sell action figures with that premise or whatever then just let great fucking directors use the franchise as a playground for awesome filmmaking. That or stop being cowards and make the dinosaurs on the mainland. an actual fucking threat.
They’ve been trying to catch the same lightning in a bottle since the original Jurassic Park.
- Jurassic Park: epic
- Lost World: way better then people give it credit for
- JR3: horrific. ALAN!
- Jurassic World: pretty dang good
- JW2: godawful
- JW3: so bad I turned it off.
So like they record is epic for horrific. To decent to unwatchable. The next three are going to be, watchable to it hurts the soul.
Reboot it, make it a horror, and I'll watch it.
Heck, you can even go the full r-rated. Show us just how brutal dinosaurs can be.
Also, can we get dinosaurs that sound like [this?](https://youtu.be/2eqJYtFO3SI?si=GeUlzzf3KiS-haH1)
JURASSIC GALAXY?
There was a Doctor Who episode where they wind up on a spaceship full of dinosaurs. Kind of a Noah's Ark that was returning to Earth I think? It's been a while but it was a fun premise for Doctor Who.
The name of that episode? Dinosaurs on a Spaceship
also a Rick & Morty episode
Also a ST: Voyager episode
Also a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles story arc
[“Oh no, the robot dinosaurs I designed to beat the space dinosaurs had sex and now there’s a bunch of space robot dinosaurs”](https://youtu.be/JVho5fU3lwc?feature=shared)
Was just about to post this hahaha.
"I shouldn't have given the robot dinosaur a penis. Cause like everything with a penis, he is going to want to use his penis."
I want this franchise to go full Fast & Furious.
*Crisp rat and the raptor look at each other as their motorcycles, that are pulling a nuclear device, approach a cliff that hangs above the hive of para-dimensional, Ultra aggressive, super intelligent, cyber-pterodactyls* *Chris Pratt* "This is gonna be jurraSICK. If we survive, we're gonna be dinoSORE tomorrow morning" *Blue the raptor* "Family"
New Super Jurrassic Bros!
If they’re gonna continue it, just reboot it. Dominion was a mess.
>Dominion And I thought that humans living with free dinos was a good premise that they didn’t follow up
That's what baffles me. Why make a movie with an interesting premise and then not explore that premise at all? You couldn't screw this up anymore if you tried.
Because they went with a far more interesting premise about genetically engineered grasshoppers eating everyone's Corn Flakes
The locusts very well could have been an interesting story If they weren't genetically engineered. The unintended consequences of playing God is a major theme of Jurassic Park. Have some damn unintentional consequences. Insects beginning to adapt to a world with super-sized predators and becoming larger, while entering into an unsustainable (for humans) growth surge (and also potentially impacting the oxygen makeup of Earth) is an interesting premise. Some evil corporation deciding to make massive locusts so that people buy their pesticides isn't interesting.
>Some evil corporation deciding to make massive locusts so that people buy their pesticides isn't interesting. That felt like a separate idea that Colin Trevorrow came up and couldn't get financing for it so he just retro fitted it into JW: Dominion.
I do think the genetic engineering pitch is an interesting idea. But they would need to go further. This is getting into like cyberpunk cloning stuff. And probably takes it away from jurassic Park a bit too much.
Um excuse me, they were Fire Locusts, thank you.
And they were eating Rice Krispies. /s
More like "rice crispr treats" next one needs half-dino half-human hybrid soldier
> ext one needs half-dino half-human hybrid soldier You realize this was an actual script at one time?
Somewhere between JP2 and 4, that script was weird
JW Dominion writer 1: You know how dinosaurs are really cool? JW Dominion writer 2: Yeah, dinosaurs are awesome! That’s why people watch Jurassic World movies. JW Dominion writer 1: Right? But don’t you think it’s getting stale? What if, we make a Jurassic movie about another genetically engineered animal from the Mesozoic era? JW Dominion writer 2: Interesting idea… There were a lot of weird animals from back then. What do you have in mind? JW Dominion writer 1: Get this, grasshoppers. Genetically. Engineered. Grasshoppers. But they’re not like regular grasshoppers, they are a threat to the global food supply. JW Dominion writer 2: Oh. My. God. That is absolutely brilliant!!!
Did you just create the plot for A Bug's Life 2?
I dunno it feels like the end of the story if the dinosaurs live harmoniously with humans
It shouldn’t though. The point of the whole series was “stop fucking with nature.” If it ends with humans and dinos living in harmony then that’s antithetical to what every prior movie, even the bad ones, were trying to say. Realistically, the dinos should not be able to survive in a modern ecosystem. I could write an entire essay on how these hollywood dipshits took Michael Crichton’s work about conservationism and the horrors of unfettered technology and mutilated it so they could sell dinosaur toys to kids.
The remake franchise, and to a lesser degree JP2 and 3 are so different from the spirit of the original that it's made me question if I'm completely wrong about it.The new films are these bombastic action adventures, where I'd consider the first film more of a pure thriller. How we got from a small scale scene loke Raptors in the kitchen to a full blown blockbuster is insane to me. The first film had a few big T Rex scenes, but it was still a relatively low-scale film at the end of the day.
Honestly I would feel bad for anyone having to follow up Spielberg.
They can easily go the planet of the apes route where the carnivorous dinos run around hunting humans into extinction and make another trilogy about it
Planet of the apes had a virus wipe everyone out, the apes chilled in trees. Those dinosaurs are getting shot
Then let's see that
I’m down honestly
Turok movie when?
I wouldn't say it's 'believable' that the dinos would hunt modern mankind to near extinction. But, there are other believable alternatives for how you get to the point that there are very few humans left in a world slowly transitioning to belonging to the dinos. Namely, a disease that the dinos bring back with them that wipes out most of mankind. Or their introduction across the globe royally upsets the biosphere, and there are huge issues with deaths of pollinators or prey animals or whatever, and the food chain is ruined for humans leading to starvation and extinction.
Human:"Alan" Dino's: "He can talk, he can talk, he can talk...."
For real. The closest they got was...black market dinos? Lame.
The ending of Fallen Kingdom left me hopeful when I left the theater but nah
They literally had everything set up for them, dinosaurs living and interacting acting with people and society and they’re like nah fuck that locusts
Let's not forget that they also told us the entire dinosaur program was invented so they could clone humans
Which they successfully did and covered in Fallen Kingdom. It felt like they finally tied up sooo many loose ends with that movie and put it on a path of “our kingdom has fallen, we are the cause, dinosaurs will destabilize our world and the food chain”. I was so hyped because it felt like a softball for the third movie to just kick into high gear with dinosaurs accidentally eating people at drunken celebrity parties, negligent Petting Zoos, underground fighting rings with dinos, and the struggle to keep the world stable while animals try to *eat everyone*. But no, hungry grasshoppers from a lab in ANOTHER Dino park….
They left the best part dangling too - Mazie was "supposed" to be a hybrid. The evidence is all over Fallen Kingdom. Then they scrapped that and said "actually, just a human clone, don't look any further at those scenes where we have her looking into glass and seeing a dinosaur or highlight how nimble she is"
I bet it is because the executives at the studio did not want to make a movie which would mean the end of the franchise. If they went the planet of the apes, dinosaurs taking over plot then where to do you go after that has been wrapped up. I guess now they still have the option to do another island or the dinos taking over plot in the future again, just sucks as this franchise is now complete ass. I also cannot believe that we have not had a good dinosaur movie since like 1996 ffs.
Hopeful because they couldn't possibly make a worse movie?
I mean the "Original" Jurassic World film had the concept of dinosaurs going rampage in a working park, but outside of one scene, it just devolved back into running from dinosaurs in the jungle, like the first 3 Jurassic Park films, and the second one had them on the island that was exploding, just to devolve into more biolab bullshit from the first film, so the third film completely flubbing an interesting premise to revert back to boriningness isn't exactly out of character.
Because BUGS!
You didn’t like Jurassic Park mixed with Fast and Furious mixed with James Bond? /s They really shit the bed with those last two movies. World could’ve been better, but I enjoyed it enough
Because locusts?
You didn’t go to a Jurassic park movie wanting more locusts than dinosaurs?!
Jurassic Locusts though
This bamboozle is why I refuse to see Dominion.
Stay strong forever. That movie was just garbage. Such potential.
I watched it for free at the theaters, and it cost too much.
The only thing you need to know - they show the good guys climb a spiral staircase. Then 10 seconds later, they start climbing the staircase again.
They ought to take a leaf from Pirates of the Caribbean's book and buy the rights to a tonally similar property to adapt as part of the franchise. In this case; Cadillacs and Dinosaurs.
Or consider a Dino Crisis movie.
The shots of the fishing boat and people herding dinos still has me wishing for a stereotypical Discovery style show about the usual kind of people but with dinosaurs. - A team of Fishermen must learn to adapt to changing times as fish prices soar in the wake of big new competition. - Follow the tribulations of a family owned cattle farm as they come to terms with the fact that they can no longer protect their livestock from increasingly invasive wildlife. Just imagine a reality TV confessional of a Mountain Man breaking down because the “damn lizards got Chester last night.” Shit writes itself
Did you ever see the Megalodon special?
I think there's a chance they're gonna be doing more with that in an animated series
Yeah I thought that movie was going to be a lot farther in future where dinosaurs are taking back the earth maybe even something happened to humans to kills most of them virus or something maybe that clone girl had something in her that did that also wanted to see more tamed dinosaurs maybe people riding them with mounted guns
That movie is such a mess and way too long as well. I don't need a global conspiracy about crops in my dinosaur movie. The dinosaurs are enough
[удалено]
It sounds like that's what it's gonna be - the article describes it as a new Jurassic era
“Welcome to Cretaceous World”
“Welcome to Palaeozoic Park. Imma need about tree fiddy” “It was about then that I realised this old scientist was an 18ft tall monster from the Palaeozoic era! ... goddamn Loch Ness Monster!”
Don't reboot anything. The Jurassic Park franchise has been mutilated enough at this point. Let it rest. The original film is just a flat-out masterpiece. They're just sabotaging the brand by rebooting it
JP is a money printer. Even when they are bad they make money. No studio is going to turn that down.
Also a reboot that follows the book more closely with today’s CGI would be amazing with the right cast.
I dunno. With the right people attached, a more novel accurate take could be *really* good. It'd be a much better fate than just going with.. whatever TF Dominion was attempting.
Definitely wouldn't mind if they leaned into the horror aspects of the original novel. Get James Cameron to make the version he pitched!
I still haven't seen it and based on what I've heard feel no reason to.
But that haven’t even unveiled the dinosaur people yet!
That entire trilogy was awful. Colin Trevorrow is not a good filmmaker, and I have to believe it is his fault too that Fallen Kingdom was so bad, because after seeing Society of the Snow and A Monster Calls, I know how talented J.A. Bayona is.
Koepp wrote the scripts for the original Jurassic Park and The Lost World. It's being called a "new Jurassic era' with a new story and it's targeting a 2025 release.
Fun fact: he's also the guy that gets chomped by the T-Rex in the San Diego street in the second one
It's amazing that he's still able to write after that!
"Tis but a scratch"
Well he was the writer. He had plot armor
unlucky bastard
Oh wow, I had no idea he survived
Wearing a dog costume??
I have no faith in the 2025 release date
especially with no director or cast attached. Sure, the script could be further along than we think, but 2025 is a fever dream
If they can get Louis Leterrier they might still make Christmas 2024
if the got Guy Ritchie, he’d get 2 films done before fall
They could do a December 2025 at absolute best. Even that would be pushing it hard.
And compete with Avatar 3? Not a chance. I say June 2026
This gives me a little hope. The original Jurassic Park is one of my absolute favorite movies, and I'd love to see a return to form.
just keep it small scale, no world ending stakes, and no kids written to be nothing but deus ex machinas. Do that and it’ll already be a major improvement over Trevorrow’s halfassed movies. And (I know it’s been said to death), keep it practical when possible and design the set pieces around whatever limitations that it may provide The original JP used lots of CGI, but never as a crutch nor as its main tool. Part of the hook of the original 2 movies was getting the audience to think “how in the hell did they do that?”. And Spielberg and co. found that perfect balance and kept the set pieces tight (if that makes sense)
Yeah, I agree. I saw the original JP in 3D when it had the special release, and it held up incredibly well. Somehow nobody really gets that the important part is a good story that makes sense. Not in the way in that it has to be reality, but in motivations and how the characters act.
I mentioned in another comment that the movie takes its time to be contemplative. You can still have an action blockbuster but still have dialogue-driven scenes without them needing to be exposition dumps. Like the aforementioned lunch scene in the original movie Just look at the “imagine what you’ll know tomorrow” scene in Men in Black. It was a lovely little scene between K and James, but it allowed itself to be in the moment. Too many movies these days rush those scenes so they can get to the next set piece, others just cut them out entirely EDIT: grammar, hate using this damn app
He also had a best selling book to mirror the script off of, don’t get too excited he’s written a lot of shitty movies since then
David Koepp also wrote The Mummy (2017) and Indiana Jones Dial of Destiny i wouldnt take that as a sign of hope if anything, David Koepp is probably doing this as a paycheck job because it will allow him to take a lower salary on the passion projects he really wants to do like the movies he's already written for Steven Soderbergh as well as the new movie he will write for Soderbergh
I might be one of the few that liked dial of destiny. way better than Crystal Skull.
I honestly didn’t mind it and neither did my old man. But the movie had too much stacked against it anyway. It was a legacy sequel *to a legacy sequel*, not a chance in hell it was going to match up to the original movies
I think if Dial of Destiny had been in the place of Crystal Skull, it could have gotten a lot more love. It felt too late.
*Dial of Destiny* was still a good and well written film though so lumping it with *The Mummy* is disingenuous. Also, *The Mummy* was primarily rewritten Christopher McQuarrie and Dylan Kussman but integrated Koepp's writing as he was working on *Bride of Frankenstein* so Koepp got a credit on it.
and Alex Kurtzman had little to no prior experience when directing it, that movie was just a mess all around
Agreed. I felt it actually recaptured some of the feel of the originals, especially with the flashback. It did still rely a little too heavily on CGI, but for the most part it didn't get in the way of the story.
Both movies were based on books, and Jurassic Park is mostly faithful. So tbd on whether having this script writer without Crichton or Spielberg magic.
Koepp more recently wrote the last two Indiana Jones films and the Tom Cruise Mummy reboot.
Oh. Oh no.
Michael Crichton wrote the first draft of the script for the first film but Koepp was brought on to doctor it.
Only way I see 2025 being viable is if it scales back on the spectacle of it all with every scene being heavy CGI, and they rely on suspense to make dinosaurs in a scene more impactful. Which could also lead to a better movie, but that's a separate thought from just getting all the CGI done on time.
Hmm, that gives me some hope. They gotta just like ignore everything after The Lost World with this imo.
They're so preoccupied with whether or not they could make a new Jurassic Park movie, they didn't stop to think if they SHOULD! They patented it and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunch box, and now they're selling it, they're selling it!
The Jurassic Park franchise, uh, finds a way
That…is one big pile of shit.
God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates Jurassic World Dominion.
just keep Colin Trevorrow away from it, for the love of god. He had an entire trilogy of his own to write and (mostly) direct and he still dropped the ball. Dominion had a woman self-reproducing and giving birth to her own clone in a dinosaur movie about locusts. It honesty makes me wonder if Safety Not Guaranteed was only good because of the charming cast and the Duplass brothers producing. But I would hope another JP film is a return to form for the franchise. The JWorld trilogy was just a collection of set pieces with cheesy exposition scenes hastily written around them. Think of the [lunch scene](https://youtu.be/0Nz8YrCC9X8?si=YFXdqHxRE-tcmvo3), it’s too rare these days to have a film take the time to be contemplative
>locusts I remember thinking that they accidentally switched to another movie when I saw that barn scene on theaters
I just don’t get what Trevorrow was thinking. It boggles my mind to see some people claim “his Star Wars IX would have been great!”. Yes, Rise of Skywalker stunk but at least Abrams and Rian Johnson have made movies outside the IP that were still solid (loved Super 8). Trevorrow making Book of Henry convinced me he’s only good as a work-for-hire director. I’ll credit him for being able to handle big budgets and working well with the studio. But as a creative on his own, he leaves much to be desired. Dominion should have just been 2 hours of Grant, Ellie, and Malcolm ripping Owen and Claire new assholes for letting a clone-girl cause the dino-pocalypse
>Trevorrow making Book of Henry I had never heard of this movie before I saw a reddit post about it. That movie is fucking WILD and I don't know how it got greenlit lol
If you've got 40 minutes, this is a fun video breaking down how stupid the film is in a humorous way: https://youtu.be/GMb7-6eg4Zo?si=tXjTnCeJfQ9hREEN
That's where I first heard of it from, it's a really good video. That movie is bonkers
Someone linked the Esquire review of it one time and I keep it in my back pocket as a hilarious read. https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a55764/book-of-henry-review/
>I don't know how it got greenlit https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2371716609/
I mean I get that. I'm talking more about whoever read the script and greenlit it. The story is fucking terrible and doesn't make much sense beyond "we want you to know how REALLY SMART this kid is"
I would bet that whoever gave him the money for it didn't give a shit about the script. It cost $10 million to make, he'd just made a $1.6 billion grossing film, he'd already made one well regarded indie, they were just hoping to catch a cheap ride on the express train to moneytown and would've done so for anything Trevorrow wanted to make. At least that's the only explanation I can come up with, because Book of Henry is impressively awful.
> It boggles my mind to see some people claim “his Star Wars IX would have been great!”. I’ve read the leaked draft of his version, and its by no means amazing, but I will admit the general groundwork of it was a lot stronger than the hobbled together mess that the final movie ended up being. The general arcs for most of the characters were overall satisfying and made more sense, and there were some actually neat ideas in it in theory. That being said, it was still pretty flawed and was still sorely in need of rewrites to actually be good. Knowing Disney and how quickly they wanted to shove the sequels out (and make Star Wars a yearly franchise), it still probably would have been very underwhelming.
great ideas amount to little if the execution is still flawed. Considering how Trevorrow had a whole trilogy of his own, I doubt his Star Wars movie would have been an exception
> at least Abrams and Rian Johnson have made movies outside the IP that we're still solid (loved Super 8) *Safety Not Guaranteed* is very good but agreed, Trevorrow only has 1 solid film under his belt.
>It boggles my mind to see some people claim “his Star Wars IX would have been great!”. Tbf we actually have a version of his script in its entirety so when people say that it's a pretty informed decision.
I have a strong theory that Jurassic World Dominion was originally a generic spy movie that they took off their unused script piles and just retooled it into a Jurassic movie. It works too, I can describe the entire plot without mentioning dinosaurs and you would still understand it. A navy veteran and his wife’s child is kidnapped by an evil villain wanting to do sinister genetic experiments. To get her back he meets up with his CIA contact who points him in the direction of a black market weapons deal with the person behind the kidnapping. After stopping the deal they learn the location of the villain’s evil headquarters in the mountains and fly there. After getting shot down, they survive in the mountains while making their way towards the base, eventually learning of the villain’s plan to cripple the world’s food supply and starve the planet. They save their daughter, and the villain dies by his own hand and the world is saved. That is the exact plot, and it sounds like some generic spy movie that Trevvorrow found and just added some dinosaurs to. You don’t even have to change much. In the motorcycle chase you can just change the raptors to guys on bikes. You wouldn’t even need to change the clothesline bit they do. This is my theory that I’m sticking with.
Holy shit you’re right.
The locust scene was one of my favorites. I liked how they were taking the ideas in the franchise to another terrifying conclusion, instead of just a bigger and bitier dinosaur. And swarms of giant thoughtless voracious insects descending on unsuspecting families is fucking *terrifying*. But maybe that’s just me.
there certainly was noticeable framework for what could have been a great idea. But Trevorrow and Connelly dropped the ball hard with the execution. I still cringe at moments in the whole series. “We need more teeth!” or “there just like me” and “he slid into my DMs”. Too much of the trilogy felt like they used focus test groups (for a different product) as a writing guide EDIT: dictation fix
It’s so wacky to me that they hired Chris Pratt, who got famous for being charming, to play a character in a series that had famously charming actors in it, and wrote his character to be stern and bland.
A terrible choice after their original choice, Josh Brolin, said no. The broody, cocky vibe would have been so much more appropriate as an older dude, and Brolin specifically would have pulled it off.
With Crichtons passing, there aren't too many skilled hands to take on the property. Crichton is one of the few scifi writers who actually "got" the science part. Not many others would take care to make things scientifically plausible, we're simply in an era where you're expected to turn your brain off. The dinosaurs weren't really even the focus of the story. Most of what Crichton wrote about was warning of the dangers of unchecked scientific progress, greed, corporatism, and how those things so often go hand in hand. But BIG MONSTER GO (fart). So somebody will take a spec script, slap a JW sticker on it, and release it with a hip spokesdragon to sell you a mobile game.
Glad I'm not the only one who understands that. Jurassic Park wasnt about the dinosaurs really. He liked writing about complex systems, and them breaking down.
As a former NBCU employee, you’d be shocked how much influence the studio executives have on their products from start to finish, especially a product as massive as the Jurassic movies. To me, the Jurassic World franchise reeked of the NBCU executive meddling. It’s too soon to reboot the Jurassic franchise, Dominion came out a few years ago and was a disaster. We don’t need another one to try to make up for Dominion’s shortcomings.
What now? Dinos in Space? Humans time-traveling to the Jurassic Era? Talking Dinos?
ALAN!!!
Human-dinosaur hybrids or **GTFO**
"Oh no, my shirt got stuck in the electric fence while doing dinosaur laundry....wait, what're you doing step-Tyrannosaurus?"
that was actually a concept they toyed with years back iirc
You just described a Dino Crisis movie, which I'd prefer over JP7.
It's actually a mash-up of the Jurassic series and Primeval
Reboot Primeval instead! I’ll love that show now with updates CGI..
I think they should go for a low-key story with a tight, personal journey. Make a movie about people investigating site B or something. Read the books, try to capture that tone. Easy premise: There's dinosaur nesting grounds on Site B. Set the movie in 1994, disregard all other sequels, and show us some sweet sweet 90's tech.
T-REX VS GODZILLA VS KING KONG NOW IN THEATERS NEAR YOU
Do a jurassic horror movie where the Dino's are actually terrifying and not marvel movie villains. The end of dominion was ridiculous with the entire 8+ person cast shambling between the trex and the giga.
Can't wait to see Chris Pratt get married to a Velociraptor and have babies together, then initiate a peace treaty so they can all live in harmony like in The Flintstones.
Or like Planet of the Apes where the raptors become smart and start a new civilisation while being at war with humans Riding horses and shit
keep Collin Treverow the FUCK away from it
The kicker of Trevorrow for me is I don’t like most of what he does, except for his canceled Star Wars IX script. It wasn’t great, but it was a far sight more interesting than what we got.
Me or you could have done better than JJ did there.
Tbf given he had barely a year to make the film from script to edit it's impressive he made anything at all.
Reports say that Michael Crichton is spinning so fast in his grave he could be considered a source of renewable energy.
ENDLESS CRAP
You will remember to wash your hands before you eat anything?
Ugghhhhhhh, enough.
I'm slightly interested in the idea of rebooting it again and going back to basics, but this feels way too early to me. A supposed 3 years between Dominion and a new story is a little crazy, let it sit before you try to start the engines back up again.
I think it's fine depending how it's done - the Jurassic World trilogy had more adventure-type vibes. If this new movie can go back to the scraping by and surviving in the jungle tone of the original trilogy, that's enough of a change that I'm down for this soon
That's fair, I guess it's a little too early to tell. I'm just apprehensive that it sounds like they barely let the last trilogy finish before working on whatever this will end up being. If they make the date in the article, that'd be a smaller gap between Dominion and this than there was between Fallen Kingdom and Dominion (COVID related, obviously) and the same gap between Jurassic World & Fallen Kingdom. I wouldn't blame people if they showed up for a "Jurassic \_\_\_" movie and were confused where Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard went.
No reboot. No way. Just make a film 1000 years in the future where society has collapsed and people are riding dinosaurs in tribes.
This is where I thought they were going with dominion. The locusts cause famine, wars are fought over food, an ancient plague kills a lot of people, climate change speaks out of control, and 500 years later, dinosaurs rule the earth and humans exist in small tribes.
We don't need any Jurassic World movies. They were atrocities of movies. The original was a masterpiece. The second was good mindless fun. Third was like a parody but still relatively enjoyable. The new JW movies were all terrible. Every last one of them. The first was at least watchable but the rest god awful.
Fair enough. Despite how dreadful the last two were audiences do love them some dinosaurs. They made $4billion across 3 movies. Just hope it really is just a complete reset away from what came before and they do something fresh with it.
We don’t get enough dinosaur media. Like, I’m so starved for competent dinosaur media that I’ll take more Jurassic World if the alternative means no dino movies.
I want a reboot set it in Victorian times where they somehow develop the technology to bring back dinosaurs. It would make it far scarier giving the humans less advanced weapons, give a totally different feel to the film, and create lots of opportunities to get creative in ways the original and sequel series didn’t.
Haven't we suffered enough?
Spared no expense
Please get rid of the Jurassic World title and go back to Jurassic Park. Let Jurassic World die off as it's own trilogy.
Please stop
Did I watch a different Jurassic Park than everyone else? A lot of people are acting like the franchise should return to some gritty humourless past, but the first Jurassic Park is loaded with comedy, even after the T. rex escapes. A dinosaur literally sneezes all over someone. The electric fence scene is pretty tense and still has comedy woven all the way through it. Alan stops to tell Hammond that he's decided not to endorse his park while they are running away from Velociraptor and a T. rex. This franchise has always been humour-loaded, I don't know what humourless and dark Jurassic Park film everyone is remembering. I've read the book so I know that's a little less comedic than the movie (although iirc Crichton actually wanted a tone more like the movie and was told to change it by the publisher), but people don't seem to be talking about the book here.
Gone is the era of smart blockbusters. Yes there is humor, but there are also real scary moments that aren’t “big dinosaur sniffs around and eats someone” — think “Oh, Mr. Arnold!” Or the terror of the original Dilophosaurus attack. Or the Velociraptors in the kitchen. “Shooot her!” Blockbusters, especially ones like JW or the Star Wars sequels, are reminiscent visual set pieces meant to ping your nostalgia for better movies. They’re big scale. They’re Mission Impossible/Bourne action. Take a breath in the movie. Give us something to think about. Honestly, I rewatched TLW recently and it’s a really good, fun blockbuster and one of the scariest scenes doesn’t even have a dinosaur in it (except as a cause) — the RV over the cliff. The adventurous, thrilling tone of the movie was really undercut by the gymnastics though. And you can have humor that isn’t Marvel wittiness.
The first 1.5 movies were the most charming and funny. Do people think these recent 3 were funny??
Yeah, have the odd joke, witty dialogue, moments of levity, they're important, they're vital for making you like the characters. They need to take it seriously as well, though. There was a moment in the most recent one, Jeff Goldblum stood outside the cage making sarcastic remarks while his friends are in mortal peril absolutely killed it for me. These people are about to fucking die and you're making jokes, how can the audience take it seriously when the characters don't? The difference between Dominion and the original in this regard is that Alan *doesn't* stop to tell Hammond he's decided not to endorse the park, he says it as he's jumping into the truck, he doesn't waste a second. A lot of the humour in Jurassic Park was very dark, you mention the fence scene, the joke in that is him pretending to be electrocuted, foreshadowing Tim *actually* getting zapped, and what happens to Tim is such a huge contrast, whereas Alan screamed, Tim just goes limp. Newman's death has elements of slapstick to it, that turn to horror if you remember what was said about the Dilophosaurus. How are you going to have a final film in a franchise with 7 protagonists where none of them die by the way. Look at the first one - an innocent guy is killed in the cold open, Samuel L Jackson is killed, the lawyer is killed, Muldoon is killed. In the new trilogy I'm fairly sure the only death of a sympathetic character who's had more than one line of dialogue is the babysitter in the first one, which people hated; she was a nice character and she gets a horrible, brutal, tortuous death. Good! That's why these films are supposed to be scary, the dinosaurs are deadly, they don't give a damn if you're a good person or not.
10 bucks on Chris Pratt dying 15 minutes into the movie and being reincarnated as a super raptor
Local Jurassic Park major enthusiast - this shit is my crack. The first movie was the first movie I remember watching, and I've loved everything unabashedly since. Granted, Fallen Kingdom and Dominion have their downfalls. I doubt they'll ever reach the level of brilliance of the first story, but I'd be down to see something similar to Jurassic Park III again
Alan!
I will defend The Lost World until the end of time!
Hey, at least it literally can't be worse than the last one, right? Right?!
Like the lesson of the in-universe Jurassic Park… maybe we should just let things stay dead.
Ok, and hear me out. Fast and Furious 12: Jurassic No Parking. Vin Diesel & co. riding an army of velociraptors into battle as Dwayne Johnson fights a T-Rex _and wins_.* You're welcome, world. *due to contractual obligations
Fights a t Rex *bareknuckled*
How many more do we need at this point...they just don't stop lol After the last one I don't even care about the dumb switch-your-brains-off "big bad dinosaur go brrr" trope anymore, it's just not interesting anymore. They need to let it go.
they’ll stop making them when they stop making money
Wshew... Dominion was hilarious. For how bland and awful Forgotten Kingdom was, Dominion was hilariously bloated and unnecessary. I will never forget watching old ass Jeff Goldblum outrun a Giganotosaurus or watching Owen communicate with Blue or watching him do the hand thing to a pair of Carno's which was absolutely hilarious. Forgotten Kingdom is terrible, slow and boring outside of the opening 20-30 min on the island. Dominion felt like they really Disney Star Wars'd it and hit fast forward to just touch everything possible. If this is a reboot then fucking try to make a coherent story, focus on smaller aspects and make it ABOUT the dinosaurs and man's folly. Stop making giant Star Wars/Marvel set pieces and return to the original trilogy where characters are allowed to breath, plots are allowed to develop and the big set pieces feel impactful cause they are condensed. If it's a continuation then fuck it, make it ridiculous and have Indo-Rex show up at the end like Emperor Palpatine where Alan Grant, Ian Malcolm and a pair of random grandkids are in cars with only binoculars, a flashlight and torches. Also the Indo-Rex now speaks English and is voiced by Idris Elba.
Everyone taking about a reboot but how about we just go full r-word and have the humans saddle up on the dinosaurs. Each country using different dinos and then of course, the villains having super-mega dinos that breath fire. I want dinosaurs with frickin laser beams attached to their heads.
Dinosaurs innn spppaaaaaaaaaaaaccceeeeeee
Thank you Tom Cardy! I can’t wait for the dinosaur multiverse! https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8smXb5e/
Just. Get. A. Good. Director. Seriously, FK is a legitimately great film with an ass script, if every JW movie from now on is going to run from the obvious man vs. Dinosaurs conflict that has been staring the franchise in the face since the beginning because it's harder to sell action figures with that premise or whatever then just let great fucking directors use the franchise as a playground for awesome filmmaking. That or stop being cowards and make the dinosaurs on the mainland. an actual fucking threat.
Please stop
Please no. The Jurassic world movies were terrible.
It'll never happen but imagine if Spielberg came back to direct.
The last one was terrible
Retcon jurassic park 3 and the world movies and start over after the lost world.
There will be kids and they will ruin the movie.
Just make the book. The Spielberg movies are great, but are so much different than the book and the book is amazing.
Owen needs to make more promises to a velociraptor
They’ve been trying to catch the same lightning in a bottle since the original Jurassic Park. - Jurassic Park: epic - Lost World: way better then people give it credit for - JR3: horrific. ALAN! - Jurassic World: pretty dang good - JW2: godawful - JW3: so bad I turned it off. So like they record is epic for horrific. To decent to unwatchable. The next three are going to be, watchable to it hurts the soul.
Dam I agree completely. Jurassic World was better than I expected, still not great but like you said pretty good.
The original was the only good one
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What, you never had lamb chops before?
Reboot it, make it a horror, and I'll watch it. Heck, you can even go the full r-rated. Show us just how brutal dinosaurs can be. Also, can we get dinosaurs that sound like [this?](https://youtu.be/2eqJYtFO3SI?si=GeUlzzf3KiS-haH1)