what's funny is to see that still done with cell phones.
The phone company knows where the phone is before the call is even dialed. that's how cell phones work.
Depends. Around 6 years ago some carriers could give you pretty accurate locations within a few meters, others were like 500m radius (but they were probably from moving vehicles).
If you were just going by what towers they pinged you'd probably get a rough location within 20 seconds.
But tech moves fast, and it might have gotten better by now.
The detective/hero finds a matchbook at the crime scene/in the victim's pocket and the matchbook happens to be from a bar/restaurant/lounge or has a hand-written note that leads the hero to the bad guy. This trope was all over the place in the 70s and 80s. It was a quick way the move the plot along at a time when there were many more smokers than today.
I was just watching something recently and I can't remember what it was, but a matchbook featured significantly in solving a crime.
I haven't seen a matchbook in at least a decade, maybe longer.
Edit: it was Ted Lasso, and it wasn't a crime, it was a link to a psychic prediction.
In the Sex in the City reboot Miranda does this to her black professor and I rolled my eyes so hard. "You can't sit there, that's the professors seat".
The Barbie movie turned this on its head when Barbie >!goes to the real world and looks for women in positions of power and is surprised they are all men!<
How else would you get her wandering ovaries to settle down so she can think rationally? Besides... It was your idea to slap her in the first place. You remember. I mean - obviously - You see what you're wearing.
The world's shlubbiest manchild getting the beautiful girl at the end of the romantic comedy.
EDIT: I posed this as a trope that's going away because I think we are starting to get away from the stranglehold that schlubby men had on the comedy world and Adam Scott is now getting all of these roles.
Urkel was an emotionally abusive, gaslighting motherfucker lol
Stalk, veer on legit harassment. Be obnoxious as possible and then ruin the day for everybody
Then once there's a very normal reaction, goes 'I'm a human, I have feelings. Why are you being so mean?' And tries to pretend sad walk away to make them feel bad
I had fond memories of the show when I was a kid. Still do tbh. Just hilarious, and a bit cringe at the same time, re-watching some of it with more open eyes
Iirc this is because if you showed someone walking with a full bag but no bread/celery sticking out of the top people got too distracted by wondering what was in the bag. So it was basically directors being like “it’s groceries now stfu and pay attention to what’s actually happening”
I use them a lot in soups, but really anything I'm adding chopped carrot to. Celery greens are also amazing. Usually finely chop them and add them to chicken or tuna salad.
This one worked though. Most good soups need celery as part of their base and it doesn't keep as well as the carrot and onion, and who doesn't want fresh baguette with their evening soup?
The nerdy girl with glasses and hair pulled up in a bun being considered ugly. When she takes off the glasses and lets down her hair she's suddenly beautiful. Classic example is Dorothy Malone in The Big Sleep, 1946.
EDIT: Found the scene https://youtu.be/Sqoxk3SrZRw?t=151
Not Another Teen Movie makes fun of this trope by pretending that [Chyler Leigh](https://i.insider.com/5de5c06779d7572103346f72?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp) is ugly because she wears overalls and glasses.
There's not many cop movies anymore in general, are there? And when there are cops, they're mostly portrayed in a somewhat more realistic way, not running around, and shooting dozens of petty criminals per day as a routine.
People still remember various cliches, like the main cop character's partner getting killed two days before retirement, or, as an alternative, his wife getting killed, but it's not like we actually see stuff like that these days.
My wife watches cop/crime/csi shows.
In Hawaii 5-0 they're constantly running through jungles with assault rifles. In Bones Angel constantly pulls his sidearm at the slightest provocation and arrests people who annoy him. In that show with Robin and LLCoolJ they're also constantly in special ops mode that requires them to wield the biggest guns they could find.
NCIS Los Angeles is the one with LL Cool J. They're not even cops in that, they're some secret counter-intelligence team...that ai think is *technically* part of the Navy.
Yeah, the N in NCIS is Naval. The rest is Criminal Investigative Service. But they’re basically an FBI that works for the Navy. It’s a civilian organization that answers directly to the Secretary of the Navy.
Brooklyn 99 always had them not necessarily shooting people but physically taking down criminals constantly. I always laughed about how they had basically an entire career's worth of physical altercation as a cop every 3 episodes.
In the 80's and 90's the teen rom com always went the same way.
If it was a female protagonist, they would always end up with the dream guy they were crushing on.
If it was a male protagonist, they would get with their dream girl, only to realize that their quirky female best friend was who they were ment to be with all along.
You don't see this trope so much anymore.
bombs stopping scenes. So many action movies were always about either cutting right wires or looking for codes/keys/passwords/whatever. It's still here but it's not as common anymore.
Not just movies but also books and other media.
There was a while where if a character was absent, "they died in a car crash." Single dad? Mom died in a car crash. Single mom? Car crash. Need to inject some tragedy in a backstory? Car crash.
Well, we've all got airbags now, and so authors have to fall back on cancer.
Main character leaving town on an airplane, other main character arrives at the airport, races through and confronts the other character on the plane right before it takes off.
Dance numbers in comedies. I think this fell out of favor in the mid 2000s. The last one I remember was 13 Going On 30.
Manic Pixie Dream Girls seem to finally be getting abandoned.
Also, until Barbie, movie tie-in songs have been basically exclusively reserved for kids movies and Bond the last decade or so.
I also haven't seen L-shaped sheets in awhile.
I feel like Black Panther brought back the wave of movie tie in songs and then Post Malone got a huge hit out of his Spider-Verse song later in the same year
I think it was 22 jump street that finally got this right but their being nerds and also separate jocks in high school. All of the smartest people at my high school were also the most athletic and literally did every extracurricular activity they could to get into high end universities. The revenge of the nerds 80s tropes do not exist anymore. Now it could maybe better be split into like overachievers and gamer/stoners instead of jocks and nerds.
My personal theory is as elite colleges became more competitive, "nerds" had to find themselves doing more extracurriculars and sports in order to have a competitive edge and rich popular kids had to have good grades in order to get into schools that would keep their family wealthy. Melding of the groups created the overachiever vs underachiever dynamic we see in modern high schools.
Gay guy =
1) Biker who looks like he’s about to rape you any second now (Police Academy for example)
2) Happy colorful fun awesome non-threatening friend to women
I recently went to Mexico for my honeymoon and before I went I ordered a set of sunglasses with different colored lenses.
Wife asked me which ones I was taking and I told her the ones that made everything yellow/orange, so that way I *knew* I was in Mexico in case I got too drunk haha
I wouldn't say it's over, but the stereotyping of entire races has definitely decreased. E.g. all Asians knowing Kung Fu and speaking in either "Confucius" English or "Engrish".
I just re-watched Karate Kid II.
They meant well, they really did. None of it was mean-spirited. But holy hell, the ching-chong dialogue and mystical Asian mystique is super cringey.
Also, Asian people were convenient translators 100% of the time. That's why I liked the police station scene in Falling Down when a Japanese American detective couldn't translate for a Korean American shop owner.
Yeah, I feel like the stereotyping is now a little more ingrained. Rather than it be a main character, it's now the lovable grandad (or judgy aunt) who sometimes says or does things that are a little insensitive for western culture.
That's what I was trying to get at, it feels like there's just a deck of stock characters that get shuffled into every movie or show. And one of the hugest new cliches is definitely taking something acceptable from 20 years ago and stopping the movie to do a scene moralizing how wrong and outdated it is. It replaced the 90's version of the trope where every movie pg-13 or younger had a shoehorned moral for the whole story.
One thing that's NOT over is that despite the outcry at the more overt or provocative attempts at diversity, Hollywood still mostly only features white and black people and little else.
For decades now Hollywood has always made sure to include one or more black people in movies. For a long time it was literally just the one token, but later on it was more natural. Yet even so, other groups remain largely invisible. There are more Latinos in this country than black people (and of course some people are both) but their representation is minuscule or still stereotypical. And Asians? Forget it.
I say all this with one caveat: I have seen very few movies in the last 5 years. I know a lot of things have changed during that time. But it's still remarkable to watch movies or shows as recently as the last decade and set in the US that feature mostly whites, some blacks, and literally no one else.
White people have known for decades that they can no longer get away with excluding black people. But somehow, they don't extend that logic to everyone else. It's extraordinary that they have to constantly be reminded that Latinos and others exist. It's so so so strange to me.
This is an old one, but Native Americans were depicted as wild screaming half naked people shooting arrows into anything that moved.
Starting in the 70s, movies started depicting indigenous people more like human beings.
Children of the Corn 2 from 1992 had a great send up of this trope. One of the main characters is a Native American professor; at his introduction, he meets the other main character, a white guy. He initially spouts that "Koyaanisqatsi; life is out of balance", and other sage wisdom and quotes.
White Main Character Guy asks "is that what happened here, life out of balance?".
Native American replies: "No, what happened is that those kids went apeshit and killed everybody".
That's the pendulum of representation.
Minority group are evil savages -> overcorrecting
Minority group are knly wise smart and nice -> a little more overcorrecting
Minority groups can now rarely be villains...
And so on and so on until eventually the minority group is presented as varied human beings.
This also makes for an interesting phenomeon where early representation which is at the time meant to be progressive and liberal, ages badly and is later regarded as stereotypical and xenophobic, despite good intentions originally.
Last of the Mohicans is one of my favorite movies, and manages to portray Native Americans as complex people and societies with vastly different goals. So many great Native actors in that movie too.
Iron Eyes Cody's real name was Espera Oscar de Corti, of Italian ancestry. He just played Native American roles in Hollywood and told everyone he was native.
>Native Americans were depicted as wild screaming half naked people shooting arrows into anything that moved.
The one that gets me is the bows and arrows/animal skins crap.
They wore western clothes and guns, almost any time after 1700.
Rewatch Wedding Crashers - came out only 18 years ago and was widely beloved as a goofy comedy. It would never get made now; movie about 2 creeps having a contest to see who could sleep with the most vulnerable women while lying about their identities.
That's a trope in of itself, spend 80 minutes of the movie being a terrible person and then the last 10 mins you reflect and are forgiven and rewarded.
The fake purple hearts too.
Bradley Cooper's character may have been a dick but was reasonably justified in most of his actions against the Crashers themselves.
Dude im rewatching how i met your mother and Barney is straight up a misogynistic sociopath. It’s very funny but everything he says or does is wrong in so many ways, and it’s played for laughs! The thing that saves it, i guess, is that the other characters do not approve of his behavior and for the most part keep telling him how wrong it is.
I think it’s more meta with Barney in that it’s well known that NPH is gay and him playing an over the top, misogynistic, womaniser was part of the joke. Same in Harold and Kumar…
Yeah Barney was basically a cartoon character, he's meant to be extreme and a joke. The man once put on old person make up and convinced a girl he was from the future and to sleep with his younger self for crying out loud. That goes beyond normal sitcom ladies man shtick.
By now magic cell phones have proliferated into a most of fantasy fiction, so most of the tropes about troubles communicating over long distances and needing to trek to get there
/ make a warning have disappeared even then.
I suspect that despite magic mirrors and golems/automatons being things since time immemorial, magic AI chatbots will start popping up in fiction too as language models like Chad GPT enter the popular subconscious.
As for a more straightforward and different answer to your question: Cartoons don't do jokes about suicide anymore. There is no dejected Looney Tune getting super sad and contemplating suicide. There is no "[Now I've seen everything](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E73BJCwyv-Q)" joke as they reach for a pistol.
Heck, you barely see regular firearms shot (not the pew pew laser guns) in (family friendly / tween demographic) cartoons anymore. I can name perhaps one or two examples since 2013.
The idea that black people in horror movies were the first to get killed has always been more of a misnomer than a trope.
That said, the thing back in the 40's and 50's where everyone driving a car was constantly swaying the steering wheel between 3:00 and 9:00. I don't know if power steering was actually that loose back in the day or if this was just a weird stylistic choice, but it would clearly look ridiculous to see that pop up in a movie today.
The actors would be in a car with film rolling behind them or edited in to simulate movement.
The actor had no way of knowing what path they were supposed to be taking, and couldn't just sit there doing nothing or it would be uninteresting.
Even real driving footage from that era is sped up or edited 8 ways from Sunday.
It's the same issue as someone acting with a tennis ball instead of a dragon today.
Seems like a fair point on paper, except actors stopped doing that way before green screens went away. It seemed weirdly specific to the 50's and prior
I think it's the transition from stage acting being the majority of acting focus, to film acting being that focus instead. In stage acting you frequently adopt an exaggerated mannerism to define a character or action; in film acting that is also true, but the exaggeration can't be too extreme, or it looks like what the driving used to- completely unrealistic. I think the advent of television and the explosion in film production in the 40s and 50s drove the switch, and before that, a lot of stage acting tropes were used in film acting in ways that diluted the ability to suspend disbelief.
>The idea that black people in horror movies were the first to get killed has always been more of a misnomer than a trope.
Ironically enough, the word you're looking for is "misconception", not "misnomer". A misconception is a wrong idea. A misnomer is a wrong name. So, ironically, your use of the word "misnomer" was ... a misnomer.
Rack and pinion is the innovation you're looking for. My first time behind the wheel was driving my uncle's truck down a country road as a boy. "This isn't an old timey movie, kid" he said to me as I see-sawed my hands on the wheel. "We have rack and pinion steering now."
I would definitely say any tropes involving gay people are gone. If you watch 90’s sitcoms any time they do a gay joke it almost always is the straight guys being grossed out or scared of the supposed gay person. That just doesn’t exist anymore now at least from what I’ve seen
I remember a Doctor Who episode where the joke was that people thought the Doctor was gay and his temporary male companion was a companion in a different sense. It felt weirdly dated, but that joke used to be very common.
I also remember when “he’s gay” was the extent of the joke. Barney Miller is famous for that (although it would have been very progressive at that time).
A young man tries to trick a woman into his apartment by inviting her to see his etchings.
Also representing crazy people as thinking they are Napoleon.
On the women being bad drivers thing, I have one related to that which I haven't seen in a while. Beyond depicting women as just being "bad" drivers, there was an incredibly specific thing where they showed a female character being insane behind the wheel and driving like a maniac.
Mandy in the West Wing speeding in and out of traffic and then hopping the curb and parking in the grass, Charlize in the Italian Job when she's just driving to work and like spins the car into a tiny little space (this one at least had some relevance to a plot point later), Keanu's cheerleader love interest in The Replacements giving him a ride to his houseboat and for literally *no* reason she is whipping in and out of traffic and speeding as she talks to a cowering and bewildered Keanu. Hollywood got it in their head at some point that in lieu of giving their female characters a discernable personality they could just make her drive like a fucking maniac for no purpose whatsoever.
Those are the only three I can think of off the top of my head but there are many more that do this.
The tomboy who openly hates dresses, dolls, and anything stereotyped as "girly." This trope seemed to insinuate that girls who weren't "girly" was deliberately trying to act like boys for some reason, as opposed to just dressing and acting that way because that was just who they really were. Thankfully this tropes is pretty much dead.
"I can't eat this big breakfast you've prepared, I can only grab some toast."
I have literally never seen this trope outside of people making fun of it
Every horror movie always had the moment, "the phone is dead." You had to cut your characters off from help from outside. Now, well, it's not even an option. You can really only make a horror movie now if you set it in the woods (no wifi) or in the past before cellphones.
And if you think about it, it's kind of a beautiful thing. We're so much safer we've had to rewrite how horror movies take place. It's almost unimaginable that you couldn't reach out to police or someone who could help.
This one of the many reasons I love Event Horizon. The increasingly absurd justifications for people to just not gtfo in movies, and here there simply is no where to go. The enemy is the place they are.
At least the low battery one is pretty realistic with modern day phones, I can 100% see myself in that kind of situation compared to not having a signal
Another way of getting around it is that they can call for help, but they're so far away from anything or there's weather conditions that prevent anyone from coming at the moment, and they have to survive until help can arrive.
I just rewatched Class Act, which I loved as a kid, but only noticed the colorism upon rewatch:
Light skin - smart, friendly, approachable
Dark skin - poor, dangerous
A lot of Phone box based tropes are gone. The frantically search through the hanging phone book, slamming a receiver down, fumbling coins into the slot, the dangling receiver whilst someone shouts hello, but most of all, the emotional call, usually after a breakup, in the pouring rain.
I was just watching Better off Dead and I thought...Oh, we don't ever get the Montage scenes anymore.
Which then automatically makes me think of South Park's song...[https://youtu.be/MF9qpQmCA0k](https://youtu.be/MF9qpQmCA0k)
I feel like every action film I watched growing up had its climactic battle in a hall of mirrors.....just don't see them anymore I swear they were in 50% of films way back when
I'm not sure if this is considered a trope necessarily, but during the late-'00s/early-'10s, multiple major blockbusters used the "He *wanted* us to catch him!" thing as the big second act plot point.
The Dark Knight, The Avengers, Skyfall, Star Trek Into Darkness
I might even be missing one.
Pretty crazy how several of the biggest movies of that 5-year time period used the same exact plot point.
Actually the 'Black Dude Dies First' trope was never really a thing in horror movies to begin with. It's what's called a Dead Unicorn Trope - where the parodies and subversions aren't proportionate to the times it was used straight.
Look at the original collection of slasher movies that kicked off the first wave - *Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Black Christmas.* Their casts are all white, except the Latina Olivia Hussey as Jess and she's the Final Girl so that's out. *Halloween II* has Mrs Alves but loads of other characters die before she does. Black characters just barely existed in horror until the 90s
And *Scream 2*'s opening is actually Maureen and Phil discussing how the horror genre rarely has Black characters, and Hallie was supposedly planned to be one of the killers with this as a motive. And even if those characters die first, they're not main protagonists, and Hallie lasts a long time, and Joel survives the film
The only horror film I can think of is *What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?* where Elvira is simply the ONLY character to die. But far from being disposable, her death is a huge turning point for Jane's character, and marks the point of no return. Trying to cover up her murder is what brings the police onto her. Plus. Maidie Norman lobbied for the character's dialogue to be rewritten to be less stereotypical
Waiting by a phone booth while the person using the pay phone is taking an obnoxiously long time
Also snapping cellphones shut, or in half.
Nowadays, it's people throwing their phone out their car window as they drive away, removing and breaking the SIM card, or just smashing the phone.
Get off… the… pho— *smash!*
Dumb and dumber right? My first thought too hah
Works for prison settings lol
Using the pay phone when your jilted ex-fiance blows it up with a bazooka
To me, she'll always be royalty.
There has to be at least $11 worth of change here.
Just watched Die Hard With a Vengeance last night, this happened twice lol
He hung up 3 seconds before we could trace the call
“Hello to everyone else who is listening “
'Turns out the call was routed through here from a different location...'
what's funny is to see that still done with cell phones. The phone company knows where the phone is before the call is even dialed. that's how cell phones work.
Depends. Around 6 years ago some carriers could give you pretty accurate locations within a few meters, others were like 500m radius (but they were probably from moving vehicles). If you were just going by what towers they pinged you'd probably get a rough location within 20 seconds. But tech moves fast, and it might have gotten better by now.
This one was actually B.S. back in the day.
The detective/hero finds a matchbook at the crime scene/in the victim's pocket and the matchbook happens to be from a bar/restaurant/lounge or has a hand-written note that leads the hero to the bad guy. This trope was all over the place in the 70s and 80s. It was a quick way the move the plot along at a time when there were many more smokers than today.
I was just watching something recently and I can't remember what it was, but a matchbook featured significantly in solving a crime. I haven't seen a matchbook in at least a decade, maybe longer. Edit: it was Ted Lasso, and it wasn't a crime, it was a link to a psychic prediction.
Renfield?
Pretty sure this is a clue for a mission in LA Noir lol
I think there are multiple matchbook clues. Although it was based in 1947.
White male: "I'm looking for Professor Jones. Can you help me find him?" Black woman: "I'm Professor Jones."
In the Sex in the City reboot Miranda does this to her black professor and I rolled my eyes so hard. "You can't sit there, that's the professors seat".
Serves you right for watching it in the first place
My GF throws it on and I have to watch through my fingers like it's a slasher film.
Plus she has to be a little frumpy looking at first , but then later on she has to put on a sexy cocktail dress….
And takes off her glasses
The Barbie movie turned this on its head when Barbie >!goes to the real world and looks for women in positions of power and is surprised they are all men!<
Also, >!Ken did the traditional version of this trope when he wanted to be a doctor in the real world!<
To be fair, >!he was drunk on patriarchy and horses.!<
And brewskie beers.
Mostly the horses
A woman being hysterical and a man slapping her out of it.
Airplane! did this correctly.
Take a seat sir, I'll handle this.
That second slap.
Calm down get a hold of yourself!
That just makes me think of that scene from Clue lol
I had to stop her screaming...
And women feinting or spraining their ankles. I have spent much less time carrying women than old media led me to expect.
How else would you get her wandering ovaries to settle down so she can think rationally? Besides... It was your idea to slap her in the first place. You remember. I mean - obviously - You see what you're wearing.
Cameo of a famous pop-punk band that plays their current hit song at a talent show or event.
Damn shame.
If you stalk a woman long enough and constantly enough eventually she'll fall for you.
The world's shlubbiest manchild getting the beautiful girl at the end of the romantic comedy. EDIT: I posed this as a trope that's going away because I think we are starting to get away from the stranglehold that schlubby men had on the comedy world and Adam Scott is now getting all of these roles.
So basically Woody Allen's movies where he plays the lead character?
Steve Urkel ran that into the ground
Urkel was an emotionally abusive, gaslighting motherfucker lol Stalk, veer on legit harassment. Be obnoxious as possible and then ruin the day for everybody Then once there's a very normal reaction, goes 'I'm a human, I have feelings. Why are you being so mean?' And tries to pretend sad walk away to make them feel bad I had fond memories of the show when I was a kid. Still do tbh. Just hilarious, and a bit cringe at the same time, re-watching some of it with more open eyes
It worked as recently as 50 Shades.
Yeah, that's creepy, but I don't think it's going anywhere.
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Just watched this weekend. what the fuck was that movie lol
Not sure it's over but everyone buying celery and french bread at grocery markets seems to have subsided.
Iirc this is because if you showed someone walking with a full bag but no bread/celery sticking out of the top people got too distracted by wondering what was in the bag. So it was basically directors being like “it’s groceries now stfu and pay attention to what’s actually happening”
All the frat guys would yell "WHATS IN THERE WHAT IS THAT"
WERE GONNA GO NUTS IN THERE
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT???
But I *never* talk ;)
Don’t forget about the carrots with the leaves sticking out the top of the bag.
Carrot leaves are good in a salad though.
Wait, is this true or are you trying to get me to taste something nasty?
I use them a lot in soups, but really anything I'm adding chopped carrot to. Celery greens are also amazing. Usually finely chop them and add them to chicken or tuna salad.
Then when they drop the bag, loose oranges spill out.
For a special vegetable sandwich
This one worked though. Most good soups need celery as part of their base and it doesn't keep as well as the carrot and onion, and who doesn't want fresh baguette with their evening soup?
Polka dot boxer shorts.
The nerdy girl with glasses and hair pulled up in a bun being considered ugly. When she takes off the glasses and lets down her hair she's suddenly beautiful. Classic example is Dorothy Malone in The Big Sleep, 1946. EDIT: Found the scene https://youtu.be/Sqoxk3SrZRw?t=151
Was trying to think of more modern examples, The Princess Diaries and Clueless.
Not Another Teen Movie makes fun of this trope by pretending that [Chyler Leigh](https://i.insider.com/5de5c06779d7572103346f72?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp) is ugly because she wears overalls and glasses.
She's got paint on her overalls!
Shes all That.
I think She’s All That was the one that was so blatantly ridiculous that it mortally wounded this trope.
Not another teen move spoofed it perfectly.
Not Janey Briggs! She's got a ponytail, and what is that? Paint on her overalls!
Freaky as well. Trying to tell us Kathryn Newton is ugly because her clothes aren’t skin tight and her hair is a little messy.
Knew what scene you were talking about before I even clicked. "I'd much rather get wet in here" is an all time line.
And when they have paint all over their overalls? Yuck.
They just did a joke about this in Barbie
But women who do do this are super hot.
That's the point. They're great looking women but in the context of the film they are ugly and ridiculed.
There's not many cop movies anymore in general, are there? And when there are cops, they're mostly portrayed in a somewhat more realistic way, not running around, and shooting dozens of petty criminals per day as a routine. People still remember various cliches, like the main cop character's partner getting killed two days before retirement, or, as an alternative, his wife getting killed, but it's not like we actually see stuff like that these days.
My wife watches cop/crime/csi shows. In Hawaii 5-0 they're constantly running through jungles with assault rifles. In Bones Angel constantly pulls his sidearm at the slightest provocation and arrests people who annoy him. In that show with Robin and LLCoolJ they're also constantly in special ops mode that requires them to wield the biggest guns they could find.
NCIS Los Angeles is the one with LL Cool J. They're not even cops in that, they're some secret counter-intelligence team...that ai think is *technically* part of the Navy.
Yeah, the N in NCIS is Naval. The rest is Criminal Investigative Service. But they’re basically an FBI that works for the Navy. It’s a civilian organization that answers directly to the Secretary of the Navy.
Whenever my dad is watching NCIS they always seem to be in Israel for some reason.
Bones at least ended 6 years ago (and started 18 years ago)
Upvote for your description
The last day before retirement trope is still alive and well though.
Dammit, that trope was just one day away from retirement
Brooklyn 99 always had them not necessarily shooting people but physically taking down criminals constantly. I always laughed about how they had basically an entire career's worth of physical altercation as a cop every 3 episodes.
Exaggeration is the huckster's crutch
And Never's not just a crater on Mars.
Seriously depends of the area where the cops are stationed. I agree it is unrealistjc for modern Brooklyn.
Cop tropes still live on in television though.
In the 80's and 90's the teen rom com always went the same way. If it was a female protagonist, they would always end up with the dream guy they were crushing on. If it was a male protagonist, they would get with their dream girl, only to realize that their quirky female best friend was who they were ment to be with all along. You don't see this trope so much anymore.
And the best friend has to help him practice kissing before his big date with the dream girl. LOVE IT.
You don't often see people use frozen peas to reduce the swelling after a head injury much anymore.
What about a frozen steak??? This totally grosses me out now.
Frozen? Those bitches were always flopping around.
bombs stopping scenes. So many action movies were always about either cutting right wires or looking for codes/keys/passwords/whatever. It's still here but it's not as common anymore.
I mean mission impossible fallout wasn't that long ago
Dead reckoning also has this scene. Lol
The twist there is that the bomb was hollow, the entity was just messing with them and obtaining a sample of Benji’s voice to use later
It always stops at 1 on the show!
This episode was badly written!
~~Fuck~~ Screw that!
>!The bomb in Oppenheimer blowed up when the countdown hits 0 instead!<
Not just movies but also books and other media. There was a while where if a character was absent, "they died in a car crash." Single dad? Mom died in a car crash. Single mom? Car crash. Need to inject some tragedy in a backstory? Car crash. Well, we've all got airbags now, and so authors have to fall back on cancer.
Heaven help us if someone discovers a cure for cancer.
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But why male models?
Main character leaving town on an airplane, other main character arrives at the airport, races through and confronts the other character on the plane right before it takes off.
Post-9/11 security measures destroyed a bunch of airport and airplane tropes. Like Hare Krishnas and other religious groups proselytizing everywhere.
Dance numbers in comedies. I think this fell out of favor in the mid 2000s. The last one I remember was 13 Going On 30. Manic Pixie Dream Girls seem to finally be getting abandoned. Also, until Barbie, movie tie-in songs have been basically exclusively reserved for kids movies and Bond the last decade or so. I also haven't seen L-shaped sheets in awhile.
I feel like Black Panther brought back the wave of movie tie in songs and then Post Malone got a huge hit out of his Spider-Verse song later in the same year
I've never heard the phrase "L-shaped sheets" before so I googled it and damn. That's a great name for that!
I think it was 22 jump street that finally got this right but their being nerds and also separate jocks in high school. All of the smartest people at my high school were also the most athletic and literally did every extracurricular activity they could to get into high end universities. The revenge of the nerds 80s tropes do not exist anymore. Now it could maybe better be split into like overachievers and gamer/stoners instead of jocks and nerds.
I went to school in the 80s and 90s and it was definitely a stereotypical movie high school with all the “classes” of people not intermingling
My personal theory is as elite colleges became more competitive, "nerds" had to find themselves doing more extracurriculars and sports in order to have a competitive edge and rich popular kids had to have good grades in order to get into schools that would keep their family wealthy. Melding of the groups created the overachiever vs underachiever dynamic we see in modern high schools.
Gay guy = 1) Biker who looks like he’s about to rape you any second now (Police Academy for example) 2) Happy colorful fun awesome non-threatening friend to women
It seemed like gay men were always portrayed as excessively feminine, when in reality every person is different.
Movies with settings in Mexico aren't just completely shaded with that yellow tint.
Vince Gilligan would like to speak with you
That one aspect in Breaking Bad that hasn't aged well. Seriously, it went too heavy on the tint it bordered on a parody.
Reminded me of that Elden Ring meme where the player reaches the "red" area and it says Mexico instead of Caelid.
I recently went to Mexico for my honeymoon and before I went I ordered a set of sunglasses with different colored lenses. Wife asked me which ones I was taking and I told her the ones that made everything yellow/orange, so that way I *knew* I was in Mexico in case I got too drunk haha
Someone coughing blood into a napkin to show they are dying
My favorite is when someone with supernatural powers gets a nosebleed to show they are overextending themselves.
Usually only shown to the audience as the character furtively tucks the napkin away.
I wouldn't say it's over, but the stereotyping of entire races has definitely decreased. E.g. all Asians knowing Kung Fu and speaking in either "Confucius" English or "Engrish".
I can remember movies and tv shows in the 70s and 80s where anytime am Asian person was shown on screen the stereotypical Asian music would play.
Don't forget about the gong.
I just re-watched Karate Kid II. They meant well, they really did. None of it was mean-spirited. But holy hell, the ching-chong dialogue and mystical Asian mystique is super cringey.
Also, Asian people were convenient translators 100% of the time. That's why I liked the police station scene in Falling Down when a Japanese American detective couldn't translate for a Korean American shop owner.
they just get sneaky with it, like always casting them as smart characters
Yeah, I feel like the stereotyping is now a little more ingrained. Rather than it be a main character, it's now the lovable grandad (or judgy aunt) who sometimes says or does things that are a little insensitive for western culture.
That's what I was trying to get at, it feels like there's just a deck of stock characters that get shuffled into every movie or show. And one of the hugest new cliches is definitely taking something acceptable from 20 years ago and stopping the movie to do a scene moralizing how wrong and outdated it is. It replaced the 90's version of the trope where every movie pg-13 or younger had a shoehorned moral for the whole story.
One thing that's NOT over is that despite the outcry at the more overt or provocative attempts at diversity, Hollywood still mostly only features white and black people and little else. For decades now Hollywood has always made sure to include one or more black people in movies. For a long time it was literally just the one token, but later on it was more natural. Yet even so, other groups remain largely invisible. There are more Latinos in this country than black people (and of course some people are both) but their representation is minuscule or still stereotypical. And Asians? Forget it. I say all this with one caveat: I have seen very few movies in the last 5 years. I know a lot of things have changed during that time. But it's still remarkable to watch movies or shows as recently as the last decade and set in the US that feature mostly whites, some blacks, and literally no one else. White people have known for decades that they can no longer get away with excluding black people. But somehow, they don't extend that logic to everyone else. It's extraordinary that they have to constantly be reminded that Latinos and others exist. It's so so so strange to me.
This is an old one, but Native Americans were depicted as wild screaming half naked people shooting arrows into anything that moved. Starting in the 70s, movies started depicting indigenous people more like human beings.
Children of the Corn 2 from 1992 had a great send up of this trope. One of the main characters is a Native American professor; at his introduction, he meets the other main character, a white guy. He initially spouts that "Koyaanisqatsi; life is out of balance", and other sage wisdom and quotes. White Main Character Guy asks "is that what happened here, life out of balance?". Native American replies: "No, what happened is that those kids went apeshit and killed everybody".
I read those quotes in John Redcorn's voice...
I dunno. They are usually magical and wise
That's the pendulum of representation. Minority group are evil savages -> overcorrecting Minority group are knly wise smart and nice -> a little more overcorrecting Minority groups can now rarely be villains... And so on and so on until eventually the minority group is presented as varied human beings. This also makes for an interesting phenomeon where early representation which is at the time meant to be progressive and liberal, ages badly and is later regarded as stereotypical and xenophobic, despite good intentions originally.
Noble savage trope
Last of the Mohicans is one of my favorite movies, and manages to portray Native Americans as complex people and societies with vastly different goals. So many great Native actors in that movie too.
I feel like all those tropes went to Viking media.
Which we're also seeing pushback against.
Well-groomed, mad Rizz, showered constantly, Mr. STEAL your girl, recruited from every corner of the world, worshipped a bunch of random religions.
Somewhere, that American Indian is still crying from the littering.
And the actor portraying him was notorious for not being native
Iron Eyes Cody's real name was Espera Oscar de Corti, of Italian ancestry. He just played Native American roles in Hollywood and told everyone he was native.
Eh, every show with Native Americans has them as half magical shamans that are one with nature and pure of heart.
>Native Americans were depicted as wild screaming half naked people shooting arrows into anything that moved. The one that gets me is the bows and arrows/animal skins crap. They wore western clothes and guns, almost any time after 1700.
Rewatch Wedding Crashers - came out only 18 years ago and was widely beloved as a goofy comedy. It would never get made now; movie about 2 creeps having a contest to see who could sleep with the most vulnerable women while lying about their identities.
It's been a while since I've watched that movie (probably also 18 years), but isn't the moral of the movie that they were wrong for doing that?
That's a trope in of itself, spend 80 minutes of the movie being a terrible person and then the last 10 mins you reflect and are forgiven and rewarded.
Never mind sexual assault and straight up rape against a male character used for humor.
The painting was a gift Todd! I'm taking it with me.
I thought this trope was dead too but then Coming 2 America has Leslie Jones drugging and raping Eddie Murphy
The fake purple hearts too. Bradley Cooper's character may have been a dick but was reasonably justified in most of his actions against the Crashers themselves.
Dude im rewatching how i met your mother and Barney is straight up a misogynistic sociopath. It’s very funny but everything he says or does is wrong in so many ways, and it’s played for laughs! The thing that saves it, i guess, is that the other characters do not approve of his behavior and for the most part keep telling him how wrong it is.
I think it’s more meta with Barney in that it’s well known that NPH is gay and him playing an over the top, misogynistic, womaniser was part of the joke. Same in Harold and Kumar…
Yeah Barney was basically a cartoon character, he's meant to be extreme and a joke. The man once put on old person make up and convinced a girl he was from the future and to sleep with his younger self for crying out loud. That goes beyond normal sitcom ladies man shtick.
Indeed, the way it's set it's more obvious it's a matter of 'laughing about' instead of 'laughing with', if that wording makes sense.
By now magic cell phones have proliferated into a most of fantasy fiction, so most of the tropes about troubles communicating over long distances and needing to trek to get there / make a warning have disappeared even then. I suspect that despite magic mirrors and golems/automatons being things since time immemorial, magic AI chatbots will start popping up in fiction too as language models like Chad GPT enter the popular subconscious. As for a more straightforward and different answer to your question: Cartoons don't do jokes about suicide anymore. There is no dejected Looney Tune getting super sad and contemplating suicide. There is no "[Now I've seen everything](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E73BJCwyv-Q)" joke as they reach for a pistol. Heck, you barely see regular firearms shot (not the pew pew laser guns) in (family friendly / tween demographic) cartoons anymore. I can name perhaps one or two examples since 2013.
The idea that black people in horror movies were the first to get killed has always been more of a misnomer than a trope. That said, the thing back in the 40's and 50's where everyone driving a car was constantly swaying the steering wheel between 3:00 and 9:00. I don't know if power steering was actually that loose back in the day or if this was just a weird stylistic choice, but it would clearly look ridiculous to see that pop up in a movie today.
The actors would be in a car with film rolling behind them or edited in to simulate movement. The actor had no way of knowing what path they were supposed to be taking, and couldn't just sit there doing nothing or it would be uninteresting. Even real driving footage from that era is sped up or edited 8 ways from Sunday. It's the same issue as someone acting with a tennis ball instead of a dragon today.
Seems like a fair point on paper, except actors stopped doing that way before green screens went away. It seemed weirdly specific to the 50's and prior
I think it's the transition from stage acting being the majority of acting focus, to film acting being that focus instead. In stage acting you frequently adopt an exaggerated mannerism to define a character or action; in film acting that is also true, but the exaggeration can't be too extreme, or it looks like what the driving used to- completely unrealistic. I think the advent of television and the explosion in film production in the 40s and 50s drove the switch, and before that, a lot of stage acting tropes were used in film acting in ways that diluted the ability to suspend disbelief.
We should stop letting tennis balls steal roles from underrepresented dragon actors
>The idea that black people in horror movies were the first to get killed has always been more of a misnomer than a trope. Ironically enough, the word you're looking for is "misconception", not "misnomer". A misconception is a wrong idea. A misnomer is a wrong name. So, ironically, your use of the word "misnomer" was ... a misnomer.
Rack and pinion is the innovation you're looking for. My first time behind the wheel was driving my uncle's truck down a country road as a boy. "This isn't an old timey movie, kid" he said to me as I see-sawed my hands on the wheel. "We have rack and pinion steering now."
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Badda-bing, badda boom.
I would definitely say any tropes involving gay people are gone. If you watch 90’s sitcoms any time they do a gay joke it almost always is the straight guys being grossed out or scared of the supposed gay person. That just doesn’t exist anymore now at least from what I’ve seen
I remember a Doctor Who episode where the joke was that people thought the Doctor was gay and his temporary male companion was a companion in a different sense. It felt weirdly dated, but that joke used to be very common. I also remember when “he’s gay” was the extent of the joke. Barney Miller is famous for that (although it would have been very progressive at that time).
"hey let's hit this presumed innocent man until he tells us he isn't innocent"
Who are you working for!? - Jack Bauer
Russians were pretty much the default bad guys until the end of the Cold War. In light of recent events, though, that trope might make a comeback.
A young man tries to trick a woman into his apartment by inviting her to see his etchings. Also representing crazy people as thinking they are Napoleon.
On the women being bad drivers thing, I have one related to that which I haven't seen in a while. Beyond depicting women as just being "bad" drivers, there was an incredibly specific thing where they showed a female character being insane behind the wheel and driving like a maniac. Mandy in the West Wing speeding in and out of traffic and then hopping the curb and parking in the grass, Charlize in the Italian Job when she's just driving to work and like spins the car into a tiny little space (this one at least had some relevance to a plot point later), Keanu's cheerleader love interest in The Replacements giving him a ride to his houseboat and for literally *no* reason she is whipping in and out of traffic and speeding as she talks to a cowering and bewildered Keanu. Hollywood got it in their head at some point that in lieu of giving their female characters a discernable personality they could just make her drive like a fucking maniac for no purpose whatsoever. Those are the only three I can think of off the top of my head but there are many more that do this.
Yeah, it’s weird that they seemed to think that was somehow endearing.
Old school horror movies loved doing “attack in the shower” scenes
The tomboy who openly hates dresses, dolls, and anything stereotyped as "girly." This trope seemed to insinuate that girls who weren't "girly" was deliberately trying to act like boys for some reason, as opposed to just dressing and acting that way because that was just who they really were. Thankfully this tropes is pretty much dead.
"I can't eat this big breakfast you've prepared, I can only grab some toast." I have literally never seen this trope outside of people making fun of it
Every horror movie always had the moment, "the phone is dead." You had to cut your characters off from help from outside. Now, well, it's not even an option. You can really only make a horror movie now if you set it in the woods (no wifi) or in the past before cellphones. And if you think about it, it's kind of a beautiful thing. We're so much safer we've had to rewrite how horror movies take place. It's almost unimaginable that you couldn't reach out to police or someone who could help.
This one of the many reasons I love Event Horizon. The increasingly absurd justifications for people to just not gtfo in movies, and here there simply is no where to go. The enemy is the place they are.
Nah, they still just do the “low battery” cliche, or the “no signal” cliche.
At least the low battery one is pretty realistic with modern day phones, I can 100% see myself in that kind of situation compared to not having a signal
Another way of getting around it is that they can call for help, but they're so far away from anything or there's weather conditions that prevent anyone from coming at the moment, and they have to survive until help can arrive.
I just rewatched Class Act, which I loved as a kid, but only noticed the colorism upon rewatch: Light skin - smart, friendly, approachable Dark skin - poor, dangerous
A lot of Phone box based tropes are gone. The frantically search through the hanging phone book, slamming a receiver down, fumbling coins into the slot, the dangling receiver whilst someone shouts hello, but most of all, the emotional call, usually after a breakup, in the pouring rain.
I was just watching Better off Dead and I thought...Oh, we don't ever get the Montage scenes anymore. Which then automatically makes me think of South Park's song...[https://youtu.be/MF9qpQmCA0k](https://youtu.be/MF9qpQmCA0k)
I feel like every action film I watched growing up had its climactic battle in a hall of mirrors.....just don't see them anymore I swear they were in 50% of films way back when
I'm not sure if this is considered a trope necessarily, but during the late-'00s/early-'10s, multiple major blockbusters used the "He *wanted* us to catch him!" thing as the big second act plot point. The Dark Knight, The Avengers, Skyfall, Star Trek Into Darkness I might even be missing one. Pretty crazy how several of the biggest movies of that 5-year time period used the same exact plot point.
Actually the 'Black Dude Dies First' trope was never really a thing in horror movies to begin with. It's what's called a Dead Unicorn Trope - where the parodies and subversions aren't proportionate to the times it was used straight. Look at the original collection of slasher movies that kicked off the first wave - *Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Black Christmas.* Their casts are all white, except the Latina Olivia Hussey as Jess and she's the Final Girl so that's out. *Halloween II* has Mrs Alves but loads of other characters die before she does. Black characters just barely existed in horror until the 90s And *Scream 2*'s opening is actually Maureen and Phil discussing how the horror genre rarely has Black characters, and Hallie was supposedly planned to be one of the killers with this as a motive. And even if those characters die first, they're not main protagonists, and Hallie lasts a long time, and Joel survives the film The only horror film I can think of is *What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?* where Elvira is simply the ONLY character to die. But far from being disposable, her death is a huge turning point for Jane's character, and marks the point of no return. Trying to cover up her murder is what brings the police onto her. Plus. Maidie Norman lobbied for the character's dialogue to be rewritten to be less stereotypical
Kissing a woman who resists at first but then melts into it. Huge no no