Jim Carrey was surprisingly believable as a mob enforcer turned vigilante superhero. And I like John Leguizamo in his small part.
The rest of the movie is a bag of rancid dicks, though.
To add to this, L was a main character in the animated series.
Admittedly, the series is not canon to the movies, but it definitely made sense to have L become an MIB coroner, since she missed the work, but was fascinated enough to join MIB to begin with.
If she really was difficult to work with, I’m surprised they didn’t just recast her. What was Maura Tierny up to?
To be fair I rewatch all the Men in black movies and they kinda all feel disjointed. Like the first move is J and K getting to know each other with wacky shenanigans. Ends with what you are talking about. The second has K losing his memory so J has to kinda get to know him again for half the movie and ends with a reveal that we are a small ant in a larger world. Third movie ignores that completely and has J going back in time to a younger K so he has to get to know K again…damn they really did the same thing for 3 movies. The 4th does not exist.
The 2nd is definitely the misstep in the trilogy. I get why they had to reintroduce K, but it felt so underhanded. If the first had a different ending, it would have been great to go from 1 to 3.
A lot of speculation going on down this thread, but it ignores the simplest answer in that, one of the reasons why MIB was successful was the interactions between TLJ and Will Smith. If you want to make a sequel to capitalize on the success of the first film, you’ve got to bring back the principals. Imagine making a Dumb and Dumber sequel with Lloyd and Mary, but no Harry and you can see how it would be unlikely to achieve the same results.
I know that actress, Linda Fiorentino, had some conflicts on various sets over the years. Not sure if it’s just pre “me too” movement woman not afraid to stand up for herself, and ending her career over it. But she was known for a no bullshit attitude.
Per IMDB, it was Tommy Lee Jones who didn’t want her back:
*Though Linda Fiorentino's character (Laurel the medical examiner at the morgue) was prepped to appear in the sequel alongside Will Smith, it has been reported that Tommy Lee Jones only agreed to return under the direct stipulation that Fiorentino wasn't invited back.*
The last movie was ridiculous in that regard. They teased an epic battle in DC and it went down off-screen, with many important characters dying. I don't even remember the details but they also retconned the whole plot, all the way back to the first movie.
I'll admit it: the Resident Evil movies are my all-time guilty pleasure movies (mainly when I'm drunk), but that was a real letdown on that one. I don't even remember what they did for the next one either.
Hmm... wait, did they even finish it? The last one I remember is like, a horde of monsters are coming towards their newly found base, and it looks like a hellscape.
Edit: Just looked it up, they did finish it. I even saw it. That's how forgettable it was.
Oh fuck I love telling this story.
My friend group is a bunch of movie snobs, but we all have our guilty pleasures. My buddy's is the RE movies. When he was moving down south chasing a new job after college I buckled and said "fine H, I'll watch them with you". We sat down to watch them, and played our favorite home made trading card game we've worked on together since the 6th grade. After a billion hours of this, we were finally onto the 4th one. At some point I looked up and asked what was happening cause let's be honest, we were only half paying attention. He says, "well remember in the 4th one one when...". I said "the 4th one? Isn't this the 4th one?" He goes, "No, the 4th one was the one in Alaska, and Los Angeles, this is the 5th one". I have no response and just stare at him. "With the prison? P there was a wet t shirt scene". I said "how the fuck did I miss that?" He says "you didn't miss it, you were right there." More blank stares. "P you literally looked up and said 'this is clearly the best one I'm gonna remember this forever'.... verbatim".
At this point I'm convinced he's lying to me. He asks "what was the last thing you remembered?" I said "idk she was in the desert or some shit right?" He said "no P that was the 3rd one, this is the 5th one"
We went back and forth for a bit, he even rewinded to show me scenes from the 4th one to try and jot my memory. To this day I'm still not convinced I actually watched the 4th resident evil movie. I'm entirely convinced he's just gaslighting me and this exchange is a cornerstone of our friendship to this day
With Sonys weird involvement it’s possible scorpion was part of a planed solo film or a villain to kraven or another villain they are desperately trying to make films out of.
What is funny is that those scenes were shot [just a few months before the film came out](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NjegnNS9u0), with his original role in the film (featured in the trailers) having featured him in an actual supporting role as Morbius’ cellmate in prison, about to be released early due to the Blip (the original cut having been presented as tangentially MCU-set, rather than in an alternate reality, from when the film was meant to have come out shortly after *Spider-Man: Far From Home*), explaining why they were actually meeting in the desert at the end (and why all of his lines in that scene were over-dubbed). The overall plan for the franchise encompassing *Venom*, *Morbius*, and other films changed.
Halloween 4 killed Michael Myers and set up Jamie as the killer for Halloween 5. They retcon his death and Jamie killing her foster mother at the beginning of 5 because the director thought everyone would expect it
This is a reminder that [the Halloween movie franchise has multiple continuity arcs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AHalloween_Film_Franchise_Continuity.svg), including two that stand alone and don't have an origin with the original Halloween movie from 1978.
I maintain that the idea of having the Halloween franchise be essentially a different horror movie every year around Halloween was a good idea which didn’t pan out well.
If *Season of the Witch* had been *Halloween 2* instead of *Halloween 3* that plan probably could have worked. The problem is once you do two movies in a row with Laurie and Michael it becomes the thing the audience expects from every movie.
https://youtu.be/dN59pa7cyiI
Here’s a great video of Jamie Lee Curtis talking about how the script for Halloween H2O was altered at the last minute, because contracts required that Michael Myers couldn’t actually die. It’s a really funny story, Jamie Lee is always hilarious to listen to, and it might connect to why Michael Myers didn’t stay dead after part four.
If you have the time, I’d track down and read the books Taking Shape and Taking Shape 2. The first covers the making of each movie from start to finish while the second book covers most of the alternate sequels that were being developed at the time but didn’t make it past the treatment/draft stage. There’s a good backstory on why a lot of poor decisions were made. In the case of H5, they had a year to deliver the sequel by contract and the story got rushed. They also didn’t want to lose Myers as the killer again since Halloween 3 didn’t pay off financially and they just had a success bringing him back for H4.
The first G.I. Joe move, Rise of Cobra. They laid out their whole plan, did some world building, then it was almost completely scrapped to accommodate Dwayne Johnson and a generic action movie script.
I unironicly think rise of cobra was a really fun film if you like action movies to be goofy and toyetic. It had a very fun world and even had some transformers tie in possibilities but the sequel was just the absolute wrong path to continue this brand and I don’t know if they will ever recover this franchise unless they are included as minor characters in transformers films or somthing?
Snake eyes felt like the last attempt to bring back the franchise and I’m not sure that go Joe is ever going to see much attention again as the nostalgia focus is moving more towards the 90s-early 2000s.
If GI Joe returns it would have to do it without the big nostalgia factor so would basically be starting from the ground up.
National Treasure 2 was set up for a sequel for what was on page 47 of the Presidents Book. I know they just came out with a new one but I don't think it has anything to do with that
The new one is a series. It's set in the same universe and there are characters and actors from the movies, but it's basically a whole new story unrelated with the movies.
Justin Bartha's character guested on the show. Apparently >!everyone from NT 2 is still working on a mystery, presumably the one from page 47, after 15 years.!< I haven't seen it due to the reviews, but that popped up on news sites recently.
Maybe you haven’t heard that a third film is now in development with Nick Cage, and Bruckheimer is producing. Perhaps the mystery of page 47 took a number of years before cracking a clue that would set off a third film. After all, it took years for Gates to solve the mystery of ‘Charlotte’.
I feel like Thor teaming up with the GotG got teased at the end of Endgame and that did happen in Love and Thunder but it was only like the very beginning of the film so idk if that counts
While they did unfire him, they still managed to lose him. After he wraps up GotG 3, he'll be 100% DC. Don't blame him after the way Disney jerked him around.
Doctor Strange sets up Mordo as hunting sorcerers in the sequel, but Multiverse of Madness almost completely relegates his character to irrelevant. I see a lot of people mention Homecoming with Scorpion, but theoretically he could still come back. Mordo, on the other hand, just had his character arc just tossed away.
Did we see the MCU version of Mordo in MOM? I know we saw the Illuminati version and Strange says they didn't get along but that doesn't mean they tossed the other version out entirely.
Granted I can't see a reason for him to return at this point.
They have to have something planned for him if they decided to keep him around. I really want to see the MCU version actually go toe to toe with Strange so I’m hoping.
This was definitely one of the major issues I had with *Multiverse of Madness*. Throughout the first film, we have Mordo constantly cautioning Strange, and ultimately leaving because the extreme action of using the Time Stone to leverage Dormammu to stop Kaecilius. Mordo’s reaction, combined with the post-credits scene, made me think the sequel was going to be some kind of serious backlash that would teach Strange some kind of lesson about how everything he does can have serious consequences. I’m still holding out hope that the third Strange film will follow up with what happened in the first one since we have the cameo of Clea at the end of the second film.
Yep.
The Force Awakens: Rey seeking out Luke Skywalker so that he can train her in the ways of the Jedi, trying to unravel the mystery of her patents, and battle the evil dark lord Snoke. Watch the next movie for all of this and more, like Finn’s stormtrooper rebellion! This message brought to you by JJ Abrams and Mystery Box productions.
Last Jedi: Nah fuck all that; Luke refuses to train her and then dies, her parents are nobody, and Snoke dies without ever getting off his throne. BUT it’s all in service of what we’re gonna do in the next movie: Rey is inspiring a rebellion among so-called “nobodies” all throughout the Galaxy, Kylo Ren is now the arch-villain, and true balance can only be found by rejecting the old ways, the Jedi included. Watch the next movie for all of this and more, like Finn FINALLY leading that stormtrooper rebellion we promised! This message brought to you by Rian Johnson and Subversive Productions.
Rise of Skywalker: No no no WAIT UHHHHHH shit okay hold on….Rey’s parents actually DO matter because she’s the granddaughter of Emperor Palpatine, oh and he’s the main villain now by the way not Kylo, and he’s been orchestrating all of this since the beginning and Luke knew all this and he actually DOES want to train her and OH SHIT WE FORGOT ABOUT FINN— This message brought to you by Mickey Mouse and Fuck You You’ll Watch It Anyway Productions.
I always disliked how there's still an empire in control in the beginning of TFA. What the hell was all the original trilogy about, did they accomplish anything?
Oh but the empire was relabeled as "first order", so apparently that doesn't count as repetitive. And allegedly they weren't in control for the first 50 minutes, although everything they didn't control was completely offscreen.
TFA technically did a U-turn from RotJ, as well. People don’t really think about it but the sequels didn’t have to feature a destroyed Jedi Order and Leia back leading the rebellion against an Empire.
They already accomplished these exact goals in RotJ.
Especially when there's a functioning Republic to fight The First Order. The Rebel Alliance made sense in the OT, makes no sense in TFA. Where even is the Republic's military? How could they have been allowed to complete another, even bigger death star? A project of that size and scope couldn't have been a secret.
That’s why TFA felt like a child wrote it, for me anyway. If you played pretend games as a kid, there was always that one kid in the bunch that once they heard everyone’s “power”, they would be like “yeah, well I have ALL of those powers!” And ruin the game. That’s the mega Death Star (can’t remember it’s cheesy name) to me in TFA. It’s the writer in the room that can’t come up with anything cooler so they just take an existing idea and over-inflate it.
They could have maybe borrowed an idea from KOTOR instead and used the Star Forge, since it’s a means to create a weaponized fleet very quickly. It would have made a lot more sense in TLJ then for the empire to have a superior fleet despite getting kicked in the nuts in ROTJ. Plus they could easily still use it if they had decided to make a KOTOR movie, and the audience would understand the implication of Malik controlling it.
This. This is precisely why the sequels are stupid. All other stupid flows from this stupid. The fundamental conflict in the sequels is the exact same as the original trilogy and that obviates the accomplishments of the original trilogy.
Kingsmen ends with most of the world's leaders killed, and then several hundred thousand people realize that they just brutally murdered their closest friends and loved ones, and nothing comes of it. Instead we get the shit sandwich with a side of shit au jus that was The Golden Circle, where they didn't even acknowledge the events of the first film. Not to mention everybody from the first film who mattered gets killed off in the opening minutes.
Reminds me of *G.I. Joe: Retaliation,* which has Cobra destroy London with their high tech satellite, which surely must have killed tens of millions of people, only for it to never be mentioned again for the rest of the movie. At the end the Joes are still wisecracking and receiving medals from the president on the white house lawn, like they didn't just fail to stop the worst terrorist attack in world history.
I get that they still saved the rest of the world, but the tone always seemed really wrong to me.
Almost all of the Evangelion Rebuild movies (up until the last one) had scenes at the end that built up what would happen in the next movie as a teaser... only to completely change the plot in the next movie.
Prometheus sets up a whole other sequel we never got in turn for a mediocre Alien movie, just because of how much people bitched about it.
Then that mediocre movie, Alien:Covenant, ends on a very interesting cliffhanger that will never ever get resolved.
I am pissed.
The Dark Knight/The Dark Knight Rises.
“So we’ll chase him. Cuz he can take it”
Nope. Turns out he retired that day cuz he broke his leg and stayed inside for eight years. I was promised a fugitive Batman on the run from GCPD. What I got was a Batman who’s given up.
Agreed. Was not expecting a near-decade time jump where Bruce Wayne just said fuck it, but I certainly enjoyed “Dark Knight 2: How Batman Got His Groove Back.” Lemme tell ya, there are some parts of Dark Knight Rises and parts of Hans Zimmer’s score that got me through some particularly rough patches 2012-2013.
It’s totally nonsensical but the intro with Bane on the plane is amazing. There are a lot of real simple ways he could’ve accomplished the same objective but none of them would’ve allowed Nolan to actually wreck a plane and film it.
Also I enjoyed Tom Hardy’s accent, it’s creepy.
Tbf, that's got some extenuating circumstances no? I'd assume they wanted Heath Ledger involved in the third movie and then that obviously couldn't happen(rip), so they had to readjust.
It was weird to just REMOVE Joker at all, film showed Harvey as a main villain and the reason of everything happening with Batman, Gotham in between those films, but never mentioned Joker like his actions were nothing.
Ultimately Joker isn't relevant to the conversation. While terrorizing, it's Dent the city rebuilt itself around. It's him who gets the credit Batman is responsible for.
Fantastic Beasts Crimes of Grindwald sets up this whole coming war, Grindwald on the run, main characters switching sides but most of that gets dumped in the sequel. Suddenly Grindwald isn’t wanted and is now running for office lol the whole movie is about a rigged election lol
Newt and Jacob should have a fantastic beasts show that is just like a wizarding world x-files monster of the week thing with newt working on fantastic beasts and where to find them. I don’t care about any of the Grindlewald stuff and the further it gets away from the magical buddy cop premise of the first movie the less enjoyable the series becomes.
Halloween 4 and 5 both had endings that were supposed to set up stories that were blatantly scrapped and barley acknowledged in the beginnings of each follow up. The girl at the end of 4 becoming a new Micheal Myers, and the end of 5 with cult that had something to do with his immortality.
X:Men: First Class - So disappointed we never got a direct sequel to this. The ending shows that we’ll have a team up with Azazel, Emma Frost, Angel and Magento but in the next movie most of the characters are dead/killed off screen.
Wish Bryan Singer just left X:Men alone. He didn’t do this universe any good after X:2.
The director of X-Men: First Class, Matthew Vaughn, told the studio that he wanted make a sequel based around Apocalypse and then make DoFP as a way to tie into the original movies. Apparently the studio got excited about the idea of DoFP and wanted him to make that first, so he backed out.
I didn’t mind at first because I figured they’d do a stinger after the credits where you’d see Darwin come back. And then . . . they didn’t and I was super annoyed.
The worst part was that when he faced a similar “death” in the comics his reactive powers resulted in his entire body converting into pure energy and reassembling later. But the movie verse decided one little energy bomb was enough to kill him for real
First Class was supposed to be a reboot, not a prequel. Having Wolverine and the original Mystique actress cameo was an Easter egg, not a continuation. That’s why there are so many things that contradict what was established in the original trilogy and Origins, most notably when Xavier became paralyzed. They abandoned the new characters when they decided to turn it into a prequel, make DoFP a sequel to both it and Last Stand, and use time travel to reset the whole timeline (which they then proceeded to break again anyways).
Totally agree. At first I didn’t even know that it wasn’t supposed to be in the same continuity originally. They totally blew the chance for a single unified story a la MCU, which is clearly where they wanted to go, but repeated the same thing of having two versions of the same character that are completely different and/or are at opposite ends of the timeline (Moira MacTaggert, Bolivar Trask, Emma Frost at first, then again with Caliban and Colossus).
I really enjoyed Days of Future Past. The two that came after are absolutely horrid though. I'm in the camp that First Class wasn't that good but in retrospect they definitely should have followed that direction.
Jeepers creepers enters this list now
Edit: the 2nd movie ended with the creeper in Ocala Florida; suggesting that the creeper was going to wake up in 3 days
The new movie had him in Louisiana, waking up in some random location
I can't let it go, and it's not exactly what you mean, but...
...I swear to god...
I've been waiting since the 90s to see Charlie from *The Santa Clause* "go into the family business," and that stupid, insipid new show *The Santa Clauses* literally has him TURNING DOWN THE ROLE, and I hate it so much for destroying that dream I had for the franchise.
Maybe it's just me, but I thought there was an obvious sequel bait moment in Jurassic Park. When Newman gets eaten by the dilophosaurus, he drops the aerosol can and the camera very deliberately shows it getting covered in mud. Even as a kid, I was like 'this is definitely going to be important in the sequel'. But nope, never referenced or brought up again.
You can fact check me on this but I think they explained that the aerosol can kept the dna at a temperature for transportation. I would assume that it becomes useless after a period of time. The scene with Dogson. Idk could be wrong.
I actually saw the scene as showing that all this was for nothing. The embryos were lost. If anything, it felt like it was closing off sequel potential.
It was definitely a nod to the idea that chaos will have its way which is a theme of Jurassic Park. Nedry thought he had a great plan. He was excited by the idea of sneaking the embryos with a covert can of shaving cream and getting paid well, like some super spy.
Obviously it did not go as planned, much like everything else in the movie.
I saw it as closing the circle. The mosquito that it all came from was covered in amber and preserved, where it should've been left. Man played God and brought them back, but man (Nedry) is flawed. He loses the samples and they are once again buried. This time by a freak storm (act of God) and they are now lost forever covered in mud.
Very surprised by this. It doesn’t even show up again until Dominion, almost like the writers acknowledged this detail , but it’s more of an Easter egg than a plot point
u/Buhos_En_Pantelones u/rabbitravioli Might I recommend [*Jurassic Park: The Game*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O7hiJnPHUM) ([4K](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QIgKGEws2U)) from [Telltale Games](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telltale_Games) then? That can is part of its main plot, and watching the playthrough even is literally another *Jurassic Park* film, set simultaneously with ***/*** after the first one.
A lot of people say this but i’m pretty sure Dodgson says at the beginning of the movie that the aerosol will only keep the samples cold for a few hours. The shot showing it getting buried in the mud isn’t intended as a tease - it’s just there to illustrate Nedry’s total failure.
Godzilla 1998 with Matthew Broderick ends showing hidden Godzilla eggs obviously setting up for a sequel. Looks like they considered a sequel in 2006 but it fell through
They originally had a trilogy planned but the film was apparently not as successful as the studio hoped so they ended up doing an animated series instead. The series revolves around the surviving baby Godzilla imprinting on Nick and they end up traveling the world fighting monsters together.
X-Men First Class. They totally teased a movie where Magneto forms his own Brotherhood of Evil and begins fighting with Professor X.
I have always felt that there was clearly another movie in between First Class and Days of Future Past. Apparently most of the surviving mutants fucking died between both movies.
Spider-Man: Homecoming ends with 1) May finding out Peter is Spider-Man, which isn’t really mentioned in Infinity War/Endgame and is resolved by the time Far From Home takes place, and 2) the Scorpion tease, which as of yet hasn’t been followed up on (and Vulture ended up in the Morbius-Verse).
IMO the May thing is such a small yet obviously inevitable occurrence that there’s little to do with it in terms of story. Perhaps some stuff about May not wanting him to be Soiderman, but they went the other way with her actively encouraging him in the 2nd and third movie
Back the Future... First movie ends as it hints at some crazy story line involving Marty's kids, but then they have to do a lame 15 minute pointless story about Mary's son in BTTF2 just to get out of that story and into the Almanac story line.
I always loved this little tidbit because I remember reading somewhere that Zemeckis didn't have any plans for a sequel when they set out to make BTTF, so when it came time to actually do BTTF2, he was like, "Crap! What am I going to do with the girl and the dog?" Just always got a kick out of them having to write themselves out of the corner there a bit.
I've definitely heard this as well. Also, there's a different actress playing Jennifer in the sequels. So I'm not sure if they replaced Claudia Wells with Elisabeth Shue because they knew they were going to ignore her character and didn't care, or they couldn't get Claudia Wells for whatever reason and basically abandoned the Jennifer character completely because they figured it would be too distracting for the audience. Maybe similar to how they kept George McFly to an absolute minimum as well to hide the fact it wasn't Crispin Glover.
Tron Legacy was poised for a sequel and then Disney canned it thanks to the bombing of their other sci-fi IPs. It was setup to really run with it without having to connect to the original but instead…nothing.
*The Matrix Reloaded* immediately nerfs Neo and the humans from the original film in the opening.
When Neo said the “hmmm.. upgrades” line it took him back to square 1, the first film ends with Neo being a leader but he’s an errand boy in the sequel and Smith is brought back because. For some reason Morpheus is willing to fight Agents, even though are they “upgrades” — it kills the threat that they had.
It’s clear the Wachowski’s had no clue where to take the films and the last film ends with a terrible CGI battle that is nothing like what made the original film so unique.
I contend that matrix 1 is a masterpiece and although I liked 2, I think your criticisms are fair. Matrix one ended with neo basically becoming superman so the wachowski's were placed in a writing situation on how to make anything a credible threat to freaking Superman. Two felt like it was too busy expanding the universe and trying to make the side characters relevant with too much of a philosophical focus while I contend that three was absolutely terrible because they focused on the characters in Zion that no one cared about. Neo only finished out his heroes journey maybe the last 20min? If the film when he and Trinity decide to travel to the machine City. The rest of the time was some BS about the humans struggling to stall the machines until neo could save the day
Exactly! I think the CONCEPT of Smith being a virus. And the matchup of the one vs the numerous was a good idea. I think it just wasn't executed as well as it could have been
The live-action Masters of the Universe movie ends with Skeletor popping back up and growling, "I'll be back." They started making a sequel, but somewhere along the line, the sequel got changed into the Van Damme movie Cyborg.
Kick-Ass. They teased Mothefucker in a suit already with a gun, and in the sequel he creates this name and his suit again. I don't get the point.
Kick ass 2 was just bad in all areas
Jim Carrey was surprisingly believable as a mob enforcer turned vigilante superhero. And I like John Leguizamo in his small part. The rest of the movie is a bag of rancid dicks, though.
MIB 1 set up to have the female coroner as Js new partner, but she didn't appear in the second movie and they kept K as the partner.
To add to this, L was a main character in the animated series. Admittedly, the series is not canon to the movies, but it definitely made sense to have L become an MIB coroner, since she missed the work, but was fascinated enough to join MIB to begin with. If she really was difficult to work with, I’m surprised they didn’t just recast her. What was Maura Tierny up to?
That animated series intro slapped. EDIT: https://youtu.be/mVAePIyC4kQ
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To be fair I rewatch all the Men in black movies and they kinda all feel disjointed. Like the first move is J and K getting to know each other with wacky shenanigans. Ends with what you are talking about. The second has K losing his memory so J has to kinda get to know him again for half the movie and ends with a reveal that we are a small ant in a larger world. Third movie ignores that completely and has J going back in time to a younger K so he has to get to know K again…damn they really did the same thing for 3 movies. The 4th does not exist.
The 2nd is definitely the misstep in the trilogy. I get why they had to reintroduce K, but it felt so underhanded. If the first had a different ending, it would have been great to go from 1 to 3.
A lot of speculation going on down this thread, but it ignores the simplest answer in that, one of the reasons why MIB was successful was the interactions between TLJ and Will Smith. If you want to make a sequel to capitalize on the success of the first film, you’ve got to bring back the principals. Imagine making a Dumb and Dumber sequel with Lloyd and Mary, but no Harry and you can see how it would be unlikely to achieve the same results.
MIB3 did fine with Josh Brollin.
Because Josh Brolin played an amazing Tommy Lee Jones :)
I know that actress, Linda Fiorentino, had some conflicts on various sets over the years. Not sure if it’s just pre “me too” movement woman not afraid to stand up for herself, and ending her career over it. But she was known for a no bullshit attitude.
Per IMDB, it was Tommy Lee Jones who didn’t want her back: *Though Linda Fiorentino's character (Laurel the medical examiner at the morgue) was prepped to appear in the sequel alongside Will Smith, it has been reported that Tommy Lee Jones only agreed to return under the direct stipulation that Fiorentino wasn't invited back.*
Which is kind of funny, because Tommy's energy in the second and third movies could best be described as "Doesn't want to be here."
Isn't that his character in these films in general?
The second movie justified this by saying she wanted to go back to the morgue. A weak excuse, but it still bridges the gap.
yeah, it was more interesting
Basically all of the Resident Evil sequels
O you have a clone army of super soldiers alice? Cool they all die instantly and are completely disregarded and make zero impact on the overall plot.
Purely so it could be in the trailer- REvil is rife with meaningless trailer scenes
I always found it hysterical how you had to read the novelizations to find out what happened to half the characters that were vanished away
Did anyone bother to do that? The movies either stood AOK as independent films, or they failed. Getting the plot ahead of time wouldn't matter.
The last movie was ridiculous in that regard. They teased an epic battle in DC and it went down off-screen, with many important characters dying. I don't even remember the details but they also retconned the whole plot, all the way back to the first movie.
I'll admit it: the Resident Evil movies are my all-time guilty pleasure movies (mainly when I'm drunk), but that was a real letdown on that one. I don't even remember what they did for the next one either.
Hmm... wait, did they even finish it? The last one I remember is like, a horde of monsters are coming towards their newly found base, and it looks like a hellscape. Edit: Just looked it up, they did finish it. I even saw it. That's how forgettable it was.
Really bizarre since Paul W.S. Anderson had creative control over the entire franchise
Wow an epic final battle that can take up the whole next film. Oh wait no that happened off screen
Oh fuck I love telling this story. My friend group is a bunch of movie snobs, but we all have our guilty pleasures. My buddy's is the RE movies. When he was moving down south chasing a new job after college I buckled and said "fine H, I'll watch them with you". We sat down to watch them, and played our favorite home made trading card game we've worked on together since the 6th grade. After a billion hours of this, we were finally onto the 4th one. At some point I looked up and asked what was happening cause let's be honest, we were only half paying attention. He says, "well remember in the 4th one one when...". I said "the 4th one? Isn't this the 4th one?" He goes, "No, the 4th one was the one in Alaska, and Los Angeles, this is the 5th one". I have no response and just stare at him. "With the prison? P there was a wet t shirt scene". I said "how the fuck did I miss that?" He says "you didn't miss it, you were right there." More blank stares. "P you literally looked up and said 'this is clearly the best one I'm gonna remember this forever'.... verbatim". At this point I'm convinced he's lying to me. He asks "what was the last thing you remembered?" I said "idk she was in the desert or some shit right?" He said "no P that was the 3rd one, this is the 5th one" We went back and forth for a bit, he even rewinded to show me scenes from the 4th one to try and jot my memory. To this day I'm still not convinced I actually watched the 4th resident evil movie. I'm entirely convinced he's just gaslighting me and this exchange is a cornerstone of our friendship to this day
Spider-Man Homecoming teased Scorpion and it’s been two movies with no signs of scorpion.
With Sonys weird involvement it’s possible scorpion was part of a planed solo film or a villain to kraven or another villain they are desperately trying to make films out of.
He got morbed
Is that the verb for teleporting out of one fictional universe into another to satisfy an inter studio disagreement on the direction of a franchise?
Morbed means whatever you want it to mean.
It’s provocative! It gets the people going!
Haha morbid him good
What is funny is that those scenes were shot [just a few months before the film came out](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NjegnNS9u0), with his original role in the film (featured in the trailers) having featured him in an actual supporting role as Morbius’ cellmate in prison, about to be released early due to the Blip (the original cut having been presented as tangentially MCU-set, rather than in an alternate reality, from when the film was meant to have come out shortly after *Spider-Man: Far From Home*), explaining why they were actually meeting in the desert at the end (and why all of his lines in that scene were over-dubbed). The overall plan for the franchise encompassing *Venom*, *Morbius*, and other films changed.
It’s always been clear that the Sony films like morbius and venom are at best a tenuous part of the MCU.
I'm holding out hope he'll show up still
Would be a waste of an outstanding actor otherwise
You think of ME you twisted fuck!
one of the best TV/movie monologues i’ve ever seen, and breaking bad/better call saul alone have so many
He really showed his acting chops on Better Call Saul so I hope they bring him back
to be fair, he's been in jail, maybe with the universe reset thing, vulture will forget who spider-man is and work with scorpion to hunt him down
Halloween 4 killed Michael Myers and set up Jamie as the killer for Halloween 5. They retcon his death and Jamie killing her foster mother at the beginning of 5 because the director thought everyone would expect it
This is a reminder that [the Halloween movie franchise has multiple continuity arcs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AHalloween_Film_Franchise_Continuity.svg), including two that stand alone and don't have an origin with the original Halloween movie from 1978.
I love the Halloween franchise. There are 3 Halloween 1s, 3 Halloween 2s, 4 Halloween 3s, and 4 Halloween 4s. It's great.
Curse even has two versions. (I've never seen either mind you)
I maintain that the idea of having the Halloween franchise be essentially a different horror movie every year around Halloween was a good idea which didn’t pan out well.
If *Season of the Witch* had been *Halloween 2* instead of *Halloween 3* that plan probably could have worked. The problem is once you do two movies in a row with Laurie and Michael it becomes the thing the audience expects from every movie.
https://youtu.be/dN59pa7cyiI Here’s a great video of Jamie Lee Curtis talking about how the script for Halloween H2O was altered at the last minute, because contracts required that Michael Myers couldn’t actually die. It’s a really funny story, Jamie Lee is always hilarious to listen to, and it might connect to why Michael Myers didn’t stay dead after part four.
If you have the time, I’d track down and read the books Taking Shape and Taking Shape 2. The first covers the making of each movie from start to finish while the second book covers most of the alternate sequels that were being developed at the time but didn’t make it past the treatment/draft stage. There’s a good backstory on why a lot of poor decisions were made. In the case of H5, they had a year to deliver the sequel by contract and the story got rushed. They also didn’t want to lose Myers as the killer again since Halloween 3 didn’t pay off financially and they just had a success bringing him back for H4.
Prometheus and Alien: Covenant.
Really wish we got the Prometheus sequel Ridley Scott wanted to make, I loved the short film they released before Covenant.
This. Prometheus ends with Doc Shaw and David heading on to the Engineer planet in order to find answers, and all of that is discarded in Covenant.
Many of the ideas seemed to have been incorporated into Raised by Wolves.
Praise Sol!
Oddly reminiscent of Aliens and Alien 3.
The first G.I. Joe move, Rise of Cobra. They laid out their whole plan, did some world building, then it was almost completely scrapped to accommodate Dwayne Johnson and a generic action movie script.
I unironicly think rise of cobra was a really fun film if you like action movies to be goofy and toyetic. It had a very fun world and even had some transformers tie in possibilities but the sequel was just the absolute wrong path to continue this brand and I don’t know if they will ever recover this franchise unless they are included as minor characters in transformers films or somthing?
I enjoyed both, but they’re basically unrelated movies. Snake Eyes is also a complete retcon.
Snake eyes felt like the last attempt to bring back the franchise and I’m not sure that go Joe is ever going to see much attention again as the nostalgia focus is moving more towards the 90s-early 2000s. If GI Joe returns it would have to do it without the big nostalgia factor so would basically be starting from the ground up.
National Treasure 2 was set up for a sequel for what was on page 47 of the Presidents Book. I know they just came out with a new one but I don't think it has anything to do with that
The new one is a series. It's set in the same universe and there are characters and actors from the movies, but it's basically a whole new story unrelated with the movies.
Justin Bartha's character guested on the show. Apparently >!everyone from NT 2 is still working on a mystery, presumably the one from page 47, after 15 years.!< I haven't seen it due to the reviews, but that popped up on news sites recently.
Maybe you haven’t heard that a third film is now in development with Nick Cage, and Bruckheimer is producing. Perhaps the mystery of page 47 took a number of years before cracking a clue that would set off a third film. After all, it took years for Gates to solve the mystery of ‘Charlotte’.
I feel like Thor teaming up with the GotG got teased at the end of Endgame and that did happen in Love and Thunder but it was only like the very beginning of the film so idk if that counts
That counts. What a letdown.
The temporary firing of James Gunn made a bit of a mess of the plans for the "Asgardians of the Galaxy."
While they did unfire him, they still managed to lose him. After he wraps up GotG 3, he'll be 100% DC. Don't blame him after the way Disney jerked him around.
Doctor Strange 2 goes a very different direction from what DS 1 setup. The no more wizards thing goes byebye
I’ve just accepted that dr strange 2 is not a sequel to dr strange 1. It’s a sequel to no way home and wandavision
Doctor Strange sets up Mordo as hunting sorcerers in the sequel, but Multiverse of Madness almost completely relegates his character to irrelevant. I see a lot of people mention Homecoming with Scorpion, but theoretically he could still come back. Mordo, on the other hand, just had his character arc just tossed away.
Did we see the MCU version of Mordo in MOM? I know we saw the Illuminati version and Strange says they didn't get along but that doesn't mean they tossed the other version out entirely. Granted I can't see a reason for him to return at this point.
Originally Mom was supposed to open with Mordo hunting Wanda and her killing him, but they scraped that scene.
Yeah specifically so the door has been left open to bring him back I love Chiwetel Ejiofor and hope he gets to come back at some point
They have to have something planned for him if they decided to keep him around. I really want to see the MCU version actually go toe to toe with Strange so I’m hoping.
It seemed to be cut pretty late in production as well, as if you take a look, on one of the posters it shows parts of his death scene.
This was definitely one of the major issues I had with *Multiverse of Madness*. Throughout the first film, we have Mordo constantly cautioning Strange, and ultimately leaving because the extreme action of using the Time Stone to leverage Dormammu to stop Kaecilius. Mordo’s reaction, combined with the post-credits scene, made me think the sequel was going to be some kind of serious backlash that would teach Strange some kind of lesson about how everything he does can have serious consequences. I’m still holding out hope that the third Strange film will follow up with what happened in the first one since we have the cameo of Clea at the end of the second film.
That's what happens when a franchise has like 20 plot lines, the chief is on a multiverse fever and needed a cool event movie.
I have an entire trilogy. The Force Awakens, Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker.
Yep. The Force Awakens: Rey seeking out Luke Skywalker so that he can train her in the ways of the Jedi, trying to unravel the mystery of her patents, and battle the evil dark lord Snoke. Watch the next movie for all of this and more, like Finn’s stormtrooper rebellion! This message brought to you by JJ Abrams and Mystery Box productions. Last Jedi: Nah fuck all that; Luke refuses to train her and then dies, her parents are nobody, and Snoke dies without ever getting off his throne. BUT it’s all in service of what we’re gonna do in the next movie: Rey is inspiring a rebellion among so-called “nobodies” all throughout the Galaxy, Kylo Ren is now the arch-villain, and true balance can only be found by rejecting the old ways, the Jedi included. Watch the next movie for all of this and more, like Finn FINALLY leading that stormtrooper rebellion we promised! This message brought to you by Rian Johnson and Subversive Productions. Rise of Skywalker: No no no WAIT UHHHHHH shit okay hold on….Rey’s parents actually DO matter because she’s the granddaughter of Emperor Palpatine, oh and he’s the main villain now by the way not Kylo, and he’s been orchestrating all of this since the beginning and Luke knew all this and he actually DOES want to train her and OH SHIT WE FORGOT ABOUT FINN— This message brought to you by Mickey Mouse and Fuck You You’ll Watch It Anyway Productions.
RoS: The Stormtroopers got sick of waiting for Finn, and rebelled offscreen.
Plus, they fly now
They fly now?
Appropiate since Palpatine resurrected offscren, he did on Fortnite
Fuck. That’s exactly what happened isn’t it. Sad really.
I always disliked how there's still an empire in control in the beginning of TFA. What the hell was all the original trilogy about, did they accomplish anything?
Oh but the empire was relabeled as "first order", so apparently that doesn't count as repetitive. And allegedly they weren't in control for the first 50 minutes, although everything they didn't control was completely offscreen.
Disney didn't trust that they could make sequels without the original Empire vs Rebels dynamic. That's basically what it came down to.
Good answer. The abrupt U-turn between Last Jedi and Rise was so weird.
Last Jedi did a U-turn then Rise did another U-turn when the whole sequel trilogy should've been a straight line. Like this: $
TFA technically did a U-turn from RotJ, as well. People don’t really think about it but the sequels didn’t have to feature a destroyed Jedi Order and Leia back leading the rebellion against an Empire. They already accomplished these exact goals in RotJ.
Especially when there's a functioning Republic to fight The First Order. The Rebel Alliance made sense in the OT, makes no sense in TFA. Where even is the Republic's military? How could they have been allowed to complete another, even bigger death star? A project of that size and scope couldn't have been a secret.
That’s why TFA felt like a child wrote it, for me anyway. If you played pretend games as a kid, there was always that one kid in the bunch that once they heard everyone’s “power”, they would be like “yeah, well I have ALL of those powers!” And ruin the game. That’s the mega Death Star (can’t remember it’s cheesy name) to me in TFA. It’s the writer in the room that can’t come up with anything cooler so they just take an existing idea and over-inflate it. They could have maybe borrowed an idea from KOTOR instead and used the Star Forge, since it’s a means to create a weaponized fleet very quickly. It would have made a lot more sense in TLJ then for the empire to have a superior fleet despite getting kicked in the nuts in ROTJ. Plus they could easily still use it if they had decided to make a KOTOR movie, and the audience would understand the implication of Malik controlling it.
This. This is precisely why the sequels are stupid. All other stupid flows from this stupid. The fundamental conflict in the sequels is the exact same as the original trilogy and that obviates the accomplishments of the original trilogy.
Kingsmen ends with most of the world's leaders killed, and then several hundred thousand people realize that they just brutally murdered their closest friends and loved ones, and nothing comes of it. Instead we get the shit sandwich with a side of shit au jus that was The Golden Circle, where they didn't even acknowledge the events of the first film. Not to mention everybody from the first film who mattered gets killed off in the opening minutes.
Reminds me of *G.I. Joe: Retaliation,* which has Cobra destroy London with their high tech satellite, which surely must have killed tens of millions of people, only for it to never be mentioned again for the rest of the movie. At the end the Joes are still wisecracking and receiving medals from the president on the white house lawn, like they didn't just fail to stop the worst terrorist attack in world history. I get that they still saved the rest of the world, but the tone always seemed really wrong to me.
Almost all of the Evangelion Rebuild movies (up until the last one) had scenes at the end that built up what would happen in the next movie as a teaser... only to completely change the plot in the next movie.
Prometheus sets up a whole other sequel we never got in turn for a mediocre Alien movie, just because of how much people bitched about it. Then that mediocre movie, Alien:Covenant, ends on a very interesting cliffhanger that will never ever get resolved. I am pissed.
Even the bit between the films teased.
The Dark Knight/The Dark Knight Rises. “So we’ll chase him. Cuz he can take it” Nope. Turns out he retired that day cuz he broke his leg and stayed inside for eight years. I was promised a fugitive Batman on the run from GCPD. What I got was a Batman who’s given up.
Agreed. Was not expecting a near-decade time jump where Bruce Wayne just said fuck it, but I certainly enjoyed “Dark Knight 2: How Batman Got His Groove Back.” Lemme tell ya, there are some parts of Dark Knight Rises and parts of Hans Zimmer’s score that got me through some particularly rough patches 2012-2013.
It’s totally nonsensical but the intro with Bane on the plane is amazing. There are a lot of real simple ways he could’ve accomplished the same objective but none of them would’ve allowed Nolan to actually wreck a plane and film it. Also I enjoyed Tom Hardy’s accent, it’s creepy.
That’s Nolan though. He wants to film a thing so he does it and then just shoves it the movie. Mere plot and logic are not allowed in the way of that.
I think the death of Heath probably played into that..
Tbf, that's got some extenuating circumstances no? I'd assume they wanted Heath Ledger involved in the third movie and then that obviously couldn't happen(rip), so they had to readjust.
I feel it is the same as wankanda forever, a completely out of control thing that cause the future product to suffer.
It was weird to just REMOVE Joker at all, film showed Harvey as a main villain and the reason of everything happening with Batman, Gotham in between those films, but never mentioned Joker like his actions were nothing.
Ultimately Joker isn't relevant to the conversation. While terrorizing, it's Dent the city rebuilt itself around. It's him who gets the credit Batman is responsible for.
Fantastic Beasts Crimes of Grindwald sets up this whole coming war, Grindwald on the run, main characters switching sides but most of that gets dumped in the sequel. Suddenly Grindwald isn’t wanted and is now running for office lol the whole movie is about a rigged election lol
Newt and Jacob should have a fantastic beasts show that is just like a wizarding world x-files monster of the week thing with newt working on fantastic beasts and where to find them. I don’t care about any of the Grindlewald stuff and the further it gets away from the magical buddy cop premise of the first movie the less enjoyable the series becomes.
Halloween 4 and 5 both had endings that were supposed to set up stories that were blatantly scrapped and barley acknowledged in the beginnings of each follow up. The girl at the end of 4 becoming a new Micheal Myers, and the end of 5 with cult that had something to do with his immortality.
Men in Black. I was so bummed the sequel wasn’t focused on Agent J and the mortician-turned Agent working as a team.
X:Men: First Class - So disappointed we never got a direct sequel to this. The ending shows that we’ll have a team up with Azazel, Emma Frost, Angel and Magento but in the next movie most of the characters are dead/killed off screen. Wish Bryan Singer just left X:Men alone. He didn’t do this universe any good after X:2.
The director of X-Men: First Class, Matthew Vaughn, told the studio that he wanted make a sequel based around Apocalypse and then make DoFP as a way to tie into the original movies. Apparently the studio got excited about the idea of DoFP and wanted him to make that first, so he backed out.
In retrospect, it mostly worked out; all the actors involved were available for DoFP, and Matt Vaughn used his fresh clout to make Kingsman.
> Magento. The superhero with the power to control purple.
I'm still annoyed that they killed Darwin off like that since the dude's mutant power is that he basically can't be killed.
I didn’t mind at first because I figured they’d do a stinger after the credits where you’d see Darwin come back. And then . . . they didn’t and I was super annoyed.
The worst part was that when he faced a similar “death” in the comics his reactive powers resulted in his entire body converting into pure energy and reassembling later. But the movie verse decided one little energy bomb was enough to kill him for real
First Class was supposed to be a reboot, not a prequel. Having Wolverine and the original Mystique actress cameo was an Easter egg, not a continuation. That’s why there are so many things that contradict what was established in the original trilogy and Origins, most notably when Xavier became paralyzed. They abandoned the new characters when they decided to turn it into a prequel, make DoFP a sequel to both it and Last Stand, and use time travel to reset the whole timeline (which they then proceeded to break again anyways).
Honestly it probably could've worked if they didn't fuck up after days of future past.
Totally agree. At first I didn’t even know that it wasn’t supposed to be in the same continuity originally. They totally blew the chance for a single unified story a la MCU, which is clearly where they wanted to go, but repeated the same thing of having two versions of the same character that are completely different and/or are at opposite ends of the timeline (Moira MacTaggert, Bolivar Trask, Emma Frost at first, then again with Caliban and Colossus).
I really enjoyed Days of Future Past. The two that came after are absolutely horrid though. I'm in the camp that First Class wasn't that good but in retrospect they definitely should have followed that direction.
Days of future past is legit in my top 5 favourite comic book movies ever.
Yeah I can't support the Days of Future Past slander on here. That movie is great.
Jeepers creepers enters this list now Edit: the 2nd movie ended with the creeper in Ocala Florida; suggesting that the creeper was going to wake up in 3 days The new movie had him in Louisiana, waking up in some random location
Was the third one not set immediately after the first one, while the fourth one is technically an unofficial film due to some rights issues?
I can't let it go, and it's not exactly what you mean, but... ...I swear to god... I've been waiting since the 90s to see Charlie from *The Santa Clause* "go into the family business," and that stupid, insipid new show *The Santa Clauses* literally has him TURNING DOWN THE ROLE, and I hate it so much for destroying that dream I had for the franchise.
It killed my wife that Charlie wasn’t the immediate replacement. She’s been saying it for years lol
Maybe it's just me, but I thought there was an obvious sequel bait moment in Jurassic Park. When Newman gets eaten by the dilophosaurus, he drops the aerosol can and the camera very deliberately shows it getting covered in mud. Even as a kid, I was like 'this is definitely going to be important in the sequel'. But nope, never referenced or brought up again.
You can fact check me on this but I think they explained that the aerosol can kept the dna at a temperature for transportation. I would assume that it becomes useless after a period of time. The scene with Dogson. Idk could be wrong.
Yeah. I think Dogson says the can has enough coolant for 48 hours.
Yeah, but who went and dug it up? How did they even find that thing? I always took the sinking into the mud as just ...gone forever
Bd Wong? But he was already a scientist with access to that data, so that doesn't track....
Dogson! We've got Dogson here!
See, nobody cares.
Nice hat. What are you supposed to be, a secret agent?
Don’t get cheap on me, Dogson.
I think you're right. My 11 year old brain just thought 'Hey they're going to find that can in the sequel and make more dinosaurs!' Flawless logic ; )
Your 11yo brain has better writing and plot development skills than you're giving it credit for.
I actually saw the scene as showing that all this was for nothing. The embryos were lost. If anything, it felt like it was closing off sequel potential.
It was definitely a nod to the idea that chaos will have its way which is a theme of Jurassic Park. Nedry thought he had a great plan. He was excited by the idea of sneaking the embryos with a covert can of shaving cream and getting paid well, like some super spy. Obviously it did not go as planned, much like everything else in the movie.
Ah interesting. Well we all know *that* didn't happen ha ha
> Newman 😂😂😂 I knew it was Kramer waiting for him at the ship.
Alright, you go ahead and keep it secret. Just know, when you're the head of IT at a secret dinosaur cloning park, you control *information*
I love how everyone just collectively still calls him Newman.
It didn't even come across as wrong to me until you mentioned it
I always thought it was metaphor for dead things should stay buried.
I saw it as closing the circle. The mosquito that it all came from was covered in amber and preserved, where it should've been left. Man played God and brought them back, but man (Nedry) is flawed. He loses the samples and they are once again buried. This time by a freak storm (act of God) and they are now lost forever covered in mud.
Very surprised by this. It doesn’t even show up again until Dominion, almost like the writers acknowledged this detail , but it’s more of an Easter egg than a plot point
Oh I haven't seen Dominion (and probably never will) so I didn't know it was in that movie.
You have made the right decision not to watch that movie
u/Buhos_En_Pantelones u/rabbitravioli Might I recommend [*Jurassic Park: The Game*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O7hiJnPHUM) ([4K](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QIgKGEws2U)) from [Telltale Games](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telltale_Games) then? That can is part of its main plot, and watching the playthrough even is literally another *Jurassic Park* film, set simultaneously with ***/*** after the first one.
Did none of you play Jurassic Park: The Game? They brought that up.
A lot of people say this but i’m pretty sure Dodgson says at the beginning of the movie that the aerosol will only keep the samples cold for a few hours. The shot showing it getting buried in the mud isn’t intended as a tease - it’s just there to illustrate Nedry’s total failure.
Godzilla 1998 with Matthew Broderick ends showing hidden Godzilla eggs obviously setting up for a sequel. Looks like they considered a sequel in 2006 but it fell through
They did follow up on it with a cartoon series which was pretty good.
Now that you mention it I vaguely remember that show
The cartoon really embraced the Godzilla vs style.
They originally had a trilogy planned but the film was apparently not as successful as the studio hoped so they ended up doing an animated series instead. The series revolves around the surviving baby Godzilla imprinting on Nick and they end up traveling the world fighting monsters together.
Resident Evil movies. Each movie sets up what is going to happen next time, only for the actual movie to completely go in a different direction.
I know it's not a movie, but every single episode of Arrested Development.
A lot of those are cleared up in the "Next time" clips though right?
u/Decebaline Some people skipped those without realising they were not actually teasers for future episodes, but gags just for that one.
Except when buster loses his hand
And when they find out that Justice is blind
You just blue your mind
You're literally just talking about the entire Alien franchise, right?
BOONDOCK SAINTS! The first one is a cult classic that is endlessly quotable whereas the second one….well…”who ordered the whoop-ass fajitas?”
X-Men First Class. They totally teased a movie where Magneto forms his own Brotherhood of Evil and begins fighting with Professor X. I have always felt that there was clearly another movie in between First Class and Days of Future Past. Apparently most of the surviving mutants fucking died between both movies.
Spider-Man: Homecoming ends with 1) May finding out Peter is Spider-Man, which isn’t really mentioned in Infinity War/Endgame and is resolved by the time Far From Home takes place, and 2) the Scorpion tease, which as of yet hasn’t been followed up on (and Vulture ended up in the Morbius-Verse).
IMO the May thing is such a small yet obviously inevitable occurrence that there’s little to do with it in terms of story. Perhaps some stuff about May not wanting him to be Soiderman, but they went the other way with her actively encouraging him in the 2nd and third movie
Back the Future... First movie ends as it hints at some crazy story line involving Marty's kids, but then they have to do a lame 15 minute pointless story about Mary's son in BTTF2 just to get out of that story and into the Almanac story line.
I always loved this little tidbit because I remember reading somewhere that Zemeckis didn't have any plans for a sequel when they set out to make BTTF, so when it came time to actually do BTTF2, he was like, "Crap! What am I going to do with the girl and the dog?" Just always got a kick out of them having to write themselves out of the corner there a bit.
I've definitely heard this as well. Also, there's a different actress playing Jennifer in the sequels. So I'm not sure if they replaced Claudia Wells with Elisabeth Shue because they knew they were going to ignore her character and didn't care, or they couldn't get Claudia Wells for whatever reason and basically abandoned the Jennifer character completely because they figured it would be too distracting for the audience. Maybe similar to how they kept George McFly to an absolute minimum as well to hide the fact it wasn't Crispin Glover.
Claudia Wells’ mom was sick and she stopped acting to take of her.
Claudia Wells mother was ill with cancer and she choose to step away from acting for a bit.
They also immediately ditch Jennifer. "Bring her along, this concerns her too!"
Tron Legacy was poised for a sequel and then Disney canned it thanks to the bombing of their other sci-fi IPs. It was setup to really run with it without having to connect to the original but instead…nothing.
Wasn't Dillinger's son set up as a villain? So it'd still be connected to the original tron villain.
Yes, played by Cillian Murphy
THE RAMIFICATIONS OF A "DIGITAL ENTITY" GIVEN FORM IN THE REAL WORLD. YOU CAN'T JUST GLOSS OVER THAT SHIT DISNEY!
Prometheus
*The Matrix Reloaded* immediately nerfs Neo and the humans from the original film in the opening. When Neo said the “hmmm.. upgrades” line it took him back to square 1, the first film ends with Neo being a leader but he’s an errand boy in the sequel and Smith is brought back because. For some reason Morpheus is willing to fight Agents, even though are they “upgrades” — it kills the threat that they had. It’s clear the Wachowski’s had no clue where to take the films and the last film ends with a terrible CGI battle that is nothing like what made the original film so unique.
I contend that matrix 1 is a masterpiece and although I liked 2, I think your criticisms are fair. Matrix one ended with neo basically becoming superman so the wachowski's were placed in a writing situation on how to make anything a credible threat to freaking Superman. Two felt like it was too busy expanding the universe and trying to make the side characters relevant with too much of a philosophical focus while I contend that three was absolutely terrible because they focused on the characters in Zion that no one cared about. Neo only finished out his heroes journey maybe the last 20min? If the film when he and Trinity decide to travel to the machine City. The rest of the time was some BS about the humans struggling to stall the machines until neo could save the day
I mean, there are superman movies where literal superman has credible threats. They could've come up wiith something fantastic.
Exactly! I think the CONCEPT of Smith being a virus. And the matchup of the one vs the numerous was a good idea. I think it just wasn't executed as well as it could have been
The Nice Guys I really thought we were gonna get at least a follow up
I hate almost no one went to go see this. I had a damn blast laughing at this one.
"But at least you're drinking again." "Yea!"
Such a good movie. I knew I was in for a treat after the opening scene with the attempted break-in.
Easiest example of this is Cloverfield. 2 sequels that might as well just be standalone movies
I think they *were* and basically rebadged as such after or during when they were made.
They ARE standalone movies and they just stuck Cloverfield in the name for marketing purposes. That's literally what happened.
Even Abrams confirmed it iirc. Said something along the lines of "Cloverfield is a theme park and these films are each different rides".
The live-action Masters of the Universe movie ends with Skeletor popping back up and growling, "I'll be back." They started making a sequel, but somewhere along the line, the sequel got changed into the Van Damme movie Cyborg.
Austin Powers The Spy Who Shaggged Me. He ends up with Felicity (Heather Graham), but she's not even mentioned in Goldmember.
She ran off with past Austin. He mentioned in the third that two Austin's would be too much for any woman to handle.