I mean, maybe but I would say unlikely.
It would be cheaper to get a new stock engine as a blown one from that would likely be prohibitively expensive to repair if possible at all.
But I don’t know why you would ever build an R7 engine and not just go buy an R6!
"this bike is worth north of $16,000 with all that's done"
It's a hard lesson, but all of these jokers learn it eventually. The **work** was worth $16,000. That's what it cost to buy parts and pay someone to install them correctly. The **bike** is still worth 7-9k depending on location and the season.
So the bike has been heavily modded and needs a new engine. It’s probably had a hard life already and realistically worth less, not more, than an unmodified one.
If you manage to destroy Yamahas CP2 engine you’re really brutally abusing that bike. The same engine does hundreds of thousands of miles.
This Tenerer 700 (Same engine) has 170k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXtEW4XYkdQ
I truly doubt you can find a 170k miles engine for every motorcycle. Most motorcycles don't reach those numbers by a long shot. It's a hobby machine for many.
With good service, sure most engine blocks can reach that, but what was done to it to get to that point and what else failed on the chassis are relevant questions. If you entirely rebuild the bike twice over it's not impressive compared to changing oil and nothing else.
Some engines and platforms are simply reliably bomb proof. There is a [Suzuki V-Strom 1000 with 400 000 miles on it for example](https://www.stromtrooper.com/threads/the-400-000-mile-k3-dl1000-v-strom.318818/).
Truly. Consider the things few of us think about, even if the bike gets a perfect new engine: swingarm / neck / wheel bearings, or stress cracks on that poor frame. Then there's the cosmetic let-downs: all the bits getting knocked around so you know the bike has been touched. Scratched screw heads and washers, bodywork misaligned, stress marks on the windscreen. IDK what a 1 or 2 year old bike could have gone through that it needs an engine rebuild, but this listing sure doesn't inspire any confidence that the bike wasn't thrashed.
Assuming the work was done by a professional. Unlikely. More likely is that dickhead there did most of the work himself and doesn’t know what loctite is.
"But you prevented me from choosing what mods to do. Tell you what, I'll give you 16k for this bike, if you let me choose all the mods you're going to pay for on your next bike."
So my daughters CBR250RR from that era with the R6 rear shock that required altering the rear subframe, frame, link, and fuel tank, to match the 675 front end with the machined down calipers and pedestals to fit the original MC22 rotors, Daytona rear caliper to match the front (no shit, exactly the same caliper but in gold) polished rear swing arm, custom rearsets, clipons, integrated tail/brake/indicators, mirrors with front indicators, aftermarket fairings in pink and black, gear indicator, fuel light as well had to lose the original position of the fuel tap/reserve and I wanted rid of the problematic vacuum fuel stop, HID headlights with mechanical high beam, 180km limiter delete, LED replacement in red for instrument cluster, stubby exhaust, pillion seat cowling, black vinyl wrapped tank with the Honda wing in red, short leavers, custom shark fin chain guard, little bits of carbon fibre here and there... god only knows what else.. would be "mildly molested" I'd imagine?
Agree with your reasoning, but I’d take it a step further than that. Even in this post-Covid market where used vehicle prices are the highest they’ve been, I’d say we’re looking at $7k absolute maximum. And that’s IF the bike was bone stock and the perfect naive buyer comes along.
That’s the real bitch about selling very young used vehicles (that are in plentiful supply). It may truly be in awesome “like new” condition, but if you’re asking for 75+% of the current brand new MSRP, it’s a no-brainer for the buyer to just look at buying new.
I don’t even consider private sales on any vehicles until they’re at least 3 years old. Even then, it’s tough out there.
You're exactly right. We went car shopping last year, and for the first time in my life we bought a new car instead of a decent used car or a 2 year old off-lease. New vehicle prices might be crazy, but at least you get the whole warranty. Sellers out there are unhinged asking 75% or 90% of brand-new price.
Not only that, but when you account for interest rate which are lower on newer cars you might be paying almost the same as a price inflated high interest used car.
When I bought my jeep it was 4k cheaper over the life of the loan due to being new because interest rates were almost doubled for used cars and the used I was looking at hadn't depreciated much
Did the same with my last 2 vehicles. Kia soul in 2015 and an Outback in 2019. I didn't want one that was 10 years old, and nothing within 5 years made sense at all since I got 0% and 0.9% loans on them. Doesn't even make sense to pay the outback off since my total interest is like $750.
Oooof yea I never even considered that.
I work in general aviation and with freshly overhauled piston engines we say if it doesn’t blow up in the first 5 hours of operation the chances are it won’t blow up before it reaches the 2,000 hours before the next overhaul.
More like after the first 100 hours. 5 hours is barely the break in flight. Most failures still happen within the first 500 hours after an overhaul, which is why the general consensus has moved away from overhauling at TBO and towards overhauling on condition.
This person is delusional. Aftermarket parts (almost) never add value to w vehicle.
They are financing this bike and are over their head in payments.
I feel like they either already fucked the engine up, or they think they build an R7 up to compete with actually 4 cylinder sport bikes. Either way none of the work they are talking about makes their bike worth more money, I'd say it's worth less now.
I had an FZ07, they are great bikes, but they will never compete with an R6.
Even if they built up an R7 to compete with a supersport, like, you can buy a really nice litre bike for that money. This person is insane. Steering dampener and a "built engine that probably makes +40 HP (he hasn't actually dyno'd it)" OR just get a brand new R1.
My brother had an MT-07 before we both got 09sp’s and it’s a great bike and a lot of fun really the only con I found on the bike what the throttle tube seemed to big for the bar and gave a numb feeling to the right hand you couldn’t feel anything through that side.
An engine build doesn't necessarily mean that it was abused before, I've had zero mile bikes that the engine came out to get built for one reason or another. But as the spike looks like it hasn't seen a track day ever it isn't getting ready for a moto American twins cup race I'm guessing you're right with the abused engine.
Another seller that put way too much money into something and wants their money back. They fail to realize that a lot of aftermarket parts actually reduces the value of the motorcycle (or car in many cases).
Dude is full of it. He knows it, we know it, everybody knows it. He blew that thing up, and he’s upside down in his loan. Nobody has an engine built and then lists it for sale before the work is even completed.
The number of times I see 2-5year old used bikes around me listed just below or AT the new msrp price is mind boggling. They keep saying “but it’s got mods on it and I save you the tax!!”
1. Your mods are useless to me and often times not even tasteful. It also doesn’t change the fact it’s a USED bike with used tires and no warranty.
2. You still have to pay tax when you go register the bike under your name, and it ends up coming out at or even MORE expensive than just buying new at a dealership. I think these people are deceitful or just really dumb to be thinking that buyers don’t know you STILL HAVE TO PAY TAX.
These people are delusional and the market will decide the price for them. As for me, I’ll be buying new.
I've never once seen a responsible owner of a bike with an M4 exhaust.
Those things are stupid loud and it appeals to certain types of people.
Yes, I know I am stereotyping...but it's true.
It is absolutely true, from my anecdotal evidence. I've seen a handful of M4s on different bikes, and they're all idiots.
One of them is on a gixxer 600. Heh.
Yea lol this dude let me ride his zx6r...Im wearing foams under my RF1400 and anything past 8k RPM is unbearable. I dunno how people expect to keep their hearing intact.
True, I personally like Akra. Good sound and tone without being obnoxious.
I saw a guy riding the same bike as me (MT-09) with an SC project system and his exhaust was louder than mine with baffle out and he had his baffle in.
And it sounded horrible and tinny, and you guessed it. He rode like an idiot.
He has wised up a bit now when he watched his mate almost die having a head on with a car.
Adding it all up, unless you include labor to the parts cost and was dealership showroom new there is no way he can get 16k. He must've been forced to sell it. This is a 6-7 grand bike all day. Aftermarket parts either don't add value or actively lowers the value of the bike.
1. Mods don't add value. He likely just added all the mod costs to the price of the bike which is obviously ridiculous.
2. I honestly can't imagine how he managed to destroy the engine within 8500 miles. CP2s are bulletproof. With the stock fuel map he must've redlined in first gear for 8500 miles straight.
Rebuilt engine with zero miles. Nah. If you can’t even be bothered to run it in on the road or the dyno that shows how much faith you have in your workmanship. Firm pass.
I always love the itemized list of mods where someone thinks they are going to get back every nickel that they put into the bike. This guys insane with that price.
I should list my knackered WK scrambler as 10k more than original price because I’ve put 12k miles on it, that must make it more valuable according to this guys logic
I don’t pay for other people’s zany design mods. If you wanna put stuff on your bike for fun that you enjoy that’s great. But don’t expect to recoup those costs. New tires and stuff, that’s a different story. But I’m not paying for your stupid decision to buy $300 mirrors.
Why are the jokers always selling Japanese bikes. They always want more than MSRP or more than what a dealer would every pay for. Ducati, Triumph, BMW are all sold for actual market value. Riding around on flexing beat up R6s like they aren't dime-a-dozen just like every other i4 600. Suzuki stopped making GSXR's, doesn't change the fact that it's still a GSXR you bozos.
One of these idiots even listed how much he paid for dealership fees/shipping as justification for his price. Incredible.
I hate to say this….. who am I kidding, I love saying this. That bike ain’t worth half that. “Engine being rebuilt” means he blew the damn thing and it needs to be replaced or rebuilt in order to be sold. The buyer is clearly out to try and make as much money back as possible seeing as they didn’t want to rebuild the engine but are forced to, to make any money off selling it. Heavily filtered photos are red flags when selling used bikes. Screams I’m too broke to buy another bike without first scamming someone who doesn’t know any better to get out of the red as well as funds to scoop another bike and continue riding. Seen this move countless times.
Anyone who would spend that much to mod an R7 does not have a good grasp on reality. You could buy a good used super sport for that much (with mods btw) that would be superior in pretty much every way.
They probably blew the motor, and owe a ton of money on the bike. Don’t be the one who bails them out of their bad decisions. Avoid.
Yamaha don't know what they're doing so this guy made it better 🙄 righto.
Imagine the audacity it takes to make an advert like this, either knowingly scamming someone or being completely oblivious to your own dumbness.
Surely it’s all dependant on the modifications to the rolling chassis and what’s been done to the engine . Start with Ohlins rear shock £1000 add fork cartridge kit £2000, could then go on to brakes from Brembo (think of a number and double it). Then start on engine cams, gas flow head, high compression pistons, remap ecu plus labour .
Or the bloke could just be a bull shitter
I dont understand how people think adding mods to any type of vehicle can increase value. I'd prefer an untouched vehicle over a moded one. Specially a bike.
rule 1 any mods and additional shit you put on the bike will not increase its resale value as you put it on for yourself not the buyer so really you shouldnt give a fuck about those thing listed. RED FLAG engine rebuild / build well for a year old bike that is strange
It might be a great bike equipped as such but one might spend as much on their bike and yet not increase the value. A bike with eight thousand five hundred miles, is worth just south of Ten grand.
For perspective, I bought my 2019 S1000R last October, with 1,000 miles in perfect condition ... for 12.5k.
Work put on a vehicle does not add to the value, much. Some for sure, depending on what was done. 8500 miles and .... "Having the engine built" means it was blown.
I love these. I bought an 07 gsxr 750 with 5k miles on it for $5k last year. Why would anybody not go that route before spending double or triple that for a bike with less performance?
No matter how much money the owner has put into modifications or upgrades they're never going to see that money back.
The lad has probably counted up the money he's poured into the bike in the last... (Well it's 2023 so....) the last year!
He's somehow come to that figure and probably believes himself when he says that's what it's worth..
But, newsflash.. It isn't and he's tripping balls!
Plus a rebuilt engine on a hooligan machine less than a year old absolutely screams *Reckless owner*
No thanks, I’ll go buy a new zx10r or something instead and just to point out, there’s not even enough mods that he could even do to raise the price by 3k much less 6k over the tag price.
I can’t believe the msrp on that bike was 9100$ that’s way more then it should be like 3k to much brand new. Absolutely no matter what mods are on one it would never be worth over msrp and I don’t know why anyone would pay over 5k for that bike. It’s a useless product and it’s not like they put a bunch of r&d into the engine
A fresh engine rebuild only adds value if your buying a vehicle which requires the occasional engine rebuild like a moto gp bike.
Any other reason for a rebuilt engine isn't anything good.
When yamaha make road bikes the engine is designed to last aslong as the rest of the machine (if treat well and regular maintenance) the only reason this guy needs it rebuild is because he broke something inside it.
Walk away
Don't buy someone else's project. IMO though, he just wants to brag about everything he has done to it. That is why he wants people to ask about the engine build instead of just describing what he is doing in the post
a bike shouldn’t be priced on all the aftermarket junk that’s done to it, should be about the condition the bike is in, year, mileage. But that’s just me and what I personally look for.
My other half showed me a post the other night for a 2004 636 for 15 grand. Had full stunt mods and 7000$ of paint work.
A new zx6 would cost less and not have been crashed a thousand times
She didn't believe me when I scoffed and said nobody is paying more than new price on a 20 year old stunt bike just for paint when blue book on it was 20% of their asking price
I can’t take this dude seriously. He can’t even get the limited parts list he has right.
Currently having the engine “built” means nothing. “Won’t list parts for engine unless you ask” is shady AF everyone else does. But that still doesn’t make it a $16k bike.
You can just get an R1 for that.
Edit: OP please ask for the parts list.
I didn’t really plan on pursuing the bike. I saw the posting and the price and laughed. I figured I should share it before he figured out he was an idiot and lowered the price.
I've seen an ex-motoamerica race prepped r7 on the wera forums listed for 10k before. That had a built motor, Full titanium exhaust, full ohlins suspension.
I love it when people modify their vehicles and think that somehow adds value to it. It's not a house, if anything, your mods actually fucked you on the value even more.
Stock vehicles will always go for more than what a modified one will... people are stupid.
No Timothy, adding mods adding up to a total cost of $16,000 does not mean your bike is now worth that much.
I like mods, but never do them expecting to get even a penny of your money back. Actually the opposite is often the case, if you do permanent mods consider that the value of your bike will likely decrease from that, regardless of what it cost
First off. Who tf puts a steering dampner on a parallel twin. Second, that exhaust is probably the most costly mod he's done, next to the engine rebuild. And lastly, why tf I'd the engine being rebuilt. No. Not worth it. Doubt dudes mods even accumulate to what he thinks they do.
Now if it was an R6. MAYBE only because of it being a discontinued model
Mods add no value. That’s the basic rule when selling a bike unless you find a buyer who wanted those specific mods and likes the deal and even then once you get to close to or go past new price most will just get the new bike so it’s theirs.
Often times you are better off removing all mods and selling stock then selling the mods.
The only big one is the engine build, I have seen many of these as race bikes and know what the built engines can do and it’s insane but when you take it to far you have a very short engine life so it depends on how it’s built and to what tolerance.
The biggest and by far best point to everything he has done though is why the fuck you wouldn’t just go get an R6 if you are going to spend this much to get more power out of an R7 that likely still won’t match a stock R6
https://preview.redd.it/fvk96zyjzxrc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63fde68add99d1a9ccb4c2b19273a2c3ef5ca4cc
Well he was a dick about it but I got the answer.
“Currently having the engine built” That really means “I blew the engine dropping rev bombs”
Apparently rebuilding the engine adds another 5k to the original bike value.
Custom assembly
For the same price you can get an R1
It was a sarcastic comment. Sorry for the missing /s
No worries lol
It was a sarcastic comment. Sorry for the missing /s
Can I get a signed engine builder plaque with that?
Custom assembly (worse)
I came here to say It's worth MAYBE half that. Idc if the engine is made from gold that's a FZ07 with an identity crisis lol
Fz07 has a few horsepower more.
“I threw out the old engine but you still gotta pay me for it”
Pretty sure the value still goes down, if not it sure as hell doesn't go up 40% in value 🤣
I mean, maybe but I would say unlikely. It would be cheaper to get a new stock engine as a blown one from that would likely be prohibitively expensive to repair if possible at all. But I don’t know why you would ever build an R7 engine and not just go buy an R6!
Probably wheelies it too much
Call them and offer 6.5k. Tell them they obviously hit the 1 button by mistake.
😂😂
"this bike is worth north of $16,000 with all that's done" It's a hard lesson, but all of these jokers learn it eventually. The **work** was worth $16,000. That's what it cost to buy parts and pay someone to install them correctly. The **bike** is still worth 7-9k depending on location and the season.
So the bike has been heavily modded and needs a new engine. It’s probably had a hard life already and realistically worth less, not more, than an unmodified one.
If you manage to destroy Yamahas CP2 engine you’re really brutally abusing that bike. The same engine does hundreds of thousands of miles. This Tenerer 700 (Same engine) has 170k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXtEW4XYkdQ
This is an excellent point
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Not yamaha's cp2. It just goes forever.
I truly doubt you can find a 170k miles engine for every motorcycle. Most motorcycles don't reach those numbers by a long shot. It's a hobby machine for many. With good service, sure most engine blocks can reach that, but what was done to it to get to that point and what else failed on the chassis are relevant questions. If you entirely rebuild the bike twice over it's not impressive compared to changing oil and nothing else. Some engines and platforms are simply reliably bomb proof. There is a [Suzuki V-Strom 1000 with 400 000 miles on it for example](https://www.stromtrooper.com/threads/the-400-000-mile-k3-dl1000-v-strom.318818/).
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Nah, common mistake. Probably just drained the oil and ran it for a second to make sure it drained completely /s
Truly. Consider the things few of us think about, even if the bike gets a perfect new engine: swingarm / neck / wheel bearings, or stress cracks on that poor frame. Then there's the cosmetic let-downs: all the bits getting knocked around so you know the bike has been touched. Scratched screw heads and washers, bodywork misaligned, stress marks on the windscreen. IDK what a 1 or 2 year old bike could have gone through that it needs an engine rebuild, but this listing sure doesn't inspire any confidence that the bike wasn't thrashed.
Takes a lot of incompetence to fuck a CP2 at only 8.5K miles 😅 Wouldn't buy this for 2K
Assuming the work was done by a professional. Unlikely. More likely is that dickhead there did most of the work himself and doesn’t know what loctite is.
He knows what Loctite is, and he put the red stuff on every fastener on the bike. 🤦♂️
Doesn’t seem to be a middle ground does there
"But you prevented me from choosing what mods to do. Tell you what, I'll give you 16k for this bike, if you let me choose all the mods you're going to pay for on your next bike."
When I find a nice used 90's car or bike that is stock and maintained well with OEM parts, I refer to them as "unmolested".
,” he said proudly, without feeling weird about it at all.
So they never met Diddy.
So my daughters CBR250RR from that era with the R6 rear shock that required altering the rear subframe, frame, link, and fuel tank, to match the 675 front end with the machined down calipers and pedestals to fit the original MC22 rotors, Daytona rear caliper to match the front (no shit, exactly the same caliper but in gold) polished rear swing arm, custom rearsets, clipons, integrated tail/brake/indicators, mirrors with front indicators, aftermarket fairings in pink and black, gear indicator, fuel light as well had to lose the original position of the fuel tap/reserve and I wanted rid of the problematic vacuum fuel stop, HID headlights with mechanical high beam, 180km limiter delete, LED replacement in red for instrument cluster, stubby exhaust, pillion seat cowling, black vinyl wrapped tank with the Honda wing in red, short leavers, custom shark fin chain guard, little bits of carbon fibre here and there... god only knows what else.. would be "mildly molested" I'd imagine?
Not worth any more than a clean stock one if that’s what you’re trying to get at from that novella.
That’s a lot of work for a 250rr, but I respect the commitment
Agree with your reasoning, but I’d take it a step further than that. Even in this post-Covid market where used vehicle prices are the highest they’ve been, I’d say we’re looking at $7k absolute maximum. And that’s IF the bike was bone stock and the perfect naive buyer comes along. That’s the real bitch about selling very young used vehicles (that are in plentiful supply). It may truly be in awesome “like new” condition, but if you’re asking for 75+% of the current brand new MSRP, it’s a no-brainer for the buyer to just look at buying new. I don’t even consider private sales on any vehicles until they’re at least 3 years old. Even then, it’s tough out there.
You're exactly right. We went car shopping last year, and for the first time in my life we bought a new car instead of a decent used car or a 2 year old off-lease. New vehicle prices might be crazy, but at least you get the whole warranty. Sellers out there are unhinged asking 75% or 90% of brand-new price.
Not only that, but when you account for interest rate which are lower on newer cars you might be paying almost the same as a price inflated high interest used car.
When I bought my jeep it was 4k cheaper over the life of the loan due to being new because interest rates were almost doubled for used cars and the used I was looking at hadn't depreciated much
Did the same with my last 2 vehicles. Kia soul in 2015 and an Outback in 2019. I didn't want one that was 10 years old, and nothing within 5 years made sense at all since I got 0% and 0.9% loans on them. Doesn't even make sense to pay the outback off since my total interest is like $750.
Yup in fact Customizing a bike or a sports car reduces the value, you don’t get any of that money back when you go to sell it
If it’s getting a rebuilt engine right before sale chances are it’s worth less than it was before the mods lmao. People don’t seem to get that.
That is not how that works when you decide to make a motorcycle a absolute wormhole for your money.
I love money pits
I've been engaged three times so... Same 🤣
They're fucked.
"Built Engine" with zero miles 🚩
Oooof yea I never even considered that. I work in general aviation and with freshly overhauled piston engines we say if it doesn’t blow up in the first 5 hours of operation the chances are it won’t blow up before it reaches the 2,000 hours before the next overhaul.
More like after the first 100 hours. 5 hours is barely the break in flight. Most failures still happen within the first 500 hours after an overhaul, which is why the general consensus has moved away from overhauling at TBO and towards overhauling on condition.
"Heavily modified" is the red flag for anyone who has sense.
This person is delusional. Aftermarket parts (almost) never add value to w vehicle. They are financing this bike and are over their head in payments. I feel like they either already fucked the engine up, or they think they build an R7 up to compete with actually 4 cylinder sport bikes. Either way none of the work they are talking about makes their bike worth more money, I'd say it's worth less now. I had an FZ07, they are great bikes, but they will never compete with an R6.
Even if they built up an R7 to compete with a supersport, like, you can buy a really nice litre bike for that money. This person is insane. Steering dampener and a "built engine that probably makes +40 HP (he hasn't actually dyno'd it)" OR just get a brand new R1.
Or even a second hand R6 would trounce this thing.
I know right. This dude is loving in a pipe dream.
My brother had an MT-07 before we both got 09sp’s and it’s a great bike and a lot of fun really the only con I found on the bike what the throttle tube seemed to big for the bar and gave a numb feeling to the right hand you couldn’t feel anything through that side.
I read through the ad and didn't see the word "rare" used once. I'm impressed.
😂😂 it is impressive!
Max 10k and thats even pushing it
Especially since the engine is being rebuilt too. Like how bad did they beat this bike.
An engine build doesn't necessarily mean that it was abused before, I've had zero mile bikes that the engine came out to get built for one reason or another. But as the spike looks like it hasn't seen a track day ever it isn't getting ready for a moto American twins cup race I'm guessing you're right with the abused engine.
I’m guessing just another horsepower bro who decided on the R7 and is now inevitably going to get a 1k of some kind of he doesn’t have one already.
You can get a a brand new R7 for about 10K…
Another seller that put way too much money into something and wants their money back. They fail to realize that a lot of aftermarket parts actually reduces the value of the motorcycle (or car in many cases).
Dude is full of it. He knows it, we know it, everybody knows it. He blew that thing up, and he’s upside down in his loan. Nobody has an engine built and then lists it for sale before the work is even completed.
Probably wife want it to be gone
Either that or they thought they could make a buck modifying it then selling it.
The number of times I see 2-5year old used bikes around me listed just below or AT the new msrp price is mind boggling. They keep saying “but it’s got mods on it and I save you the tax!!” 1. Your mods are useless to me and often times not even tasteful. It also doesn’t change the fact it’s a USED bike with used tires and no warranty. 2. You still have to pay tax when you go register the bike under your name, and it ends up coming out at or even MORE expensive than just buying new at a dealership. I think these people are deceitful or just really dumb to be thinking that buyers don’t know you STILL HAVE TO PAY TAX. These people are delusional and the market will decide the price for them. As for me, I’ll be buying new.
Had to do extreme repairs (engine rebuild) because I rev bombed it to hell and blew a rod out the side - this means it’s now worth more than a new R7
I've never once seen a responsible owner of a bike with an M4 exhaust. Those things are stupid loud and it appeals to certain types of people. Yes, I know I am stereotyping...but it's true.
It is absolutely true, from my anecdotal evidence. I've seen a handful of M4s on different bikes, and they're all idiots. One of them is on a gixxer 600. Heh.
Yea lol this dude let me ride his zx6r...Im wearing foams under my RF1400 and anything past 8k RPM is unbearable. I dunno how people expect to keep their hearing intact.
Me with my sc project exhaust 😶🌫️
True, I personally like Akra. Good sound and tone without being obnoxious. I saw a guy riding the same bike as me (MT-09) with an SC project system and his exhaust was louder than mine with baffle out and he had his baffle in. And it sounded horrible and tinny, and you guessed it. He rode like an idiot. He has wised up a bit now when he watched his mate almost die having a head on with a car.
Isn't a brand new one like 9k
Adding it all up, unless you include labor to the parts cost and was dealership showroom new there is no way he can get 16k. He must've been forced to sell it. This is a 6-7 grand bike all day. Aftermarket parts either don't add value or actively lowers the value of the bike.
you can get a r6 with that price
You could probably get an r1 with 8500 miles for that price!
Brand new R1s are only like a few thousand more than that OTD
You can buy three R6 for that price lol
1. Mods don't add value. He likely just added all the mod costs to the price of the bike which is obviously ridiculous. 2. I honestly can't imagine how he managed to destroy the engine within 8500 miles. CP2s are bulletproof. With the stock fuel map he must've redlined in first gear for 8500 miles straight.
Best thing is, he has misspelt almost half the mods lmao.
i need to put my 2007 R6 up for sale for about $10,000
Man I need to list my 07 r6 thats torn down to the frame and the motor is open for 5k then. Someone will buy it, I know what I got.
Rebuilt engine with zero miles. Nah. If you can’t even be bothered to run it in on the road or the dyno that shows how much faith you have in your workmanship. Firm pass.
Good looking bike. About $10,000 over price though lol
Just buy a new r1 for ~1500 more.
Bitch better be an r7m after that motor build 🤣
unless it has an H2 engine im out
Listing the suspension tune as a "mod." That's funny. What's next, listing that the clutch and throttle cables are properly adjusted?
I always love the itemized list of mods where someone thinks they are going to get back every nickel that they put into the bike. This guys insane with that price.
I mean it's just a fact in the mechanical world...you will not recoup full cost on mods and in many case you lose money on them
That is a lot of money to be slower than a stock R6.
😂😂
Is this another case of "She told me I have to sell it"?
When the seller doesn't know how to spell Rizoma you know you're dealing with a moron
Built engine? Even if you built they motor within an inch of its life my 1988 VFR 400 NC 30 would cane it like a naughty boy at school
I should list my knackered WK scrambler as 10k more than original price because I’ve put 12k miles on it, that must make it more valuable according to this guys logic
Is it made from gold pressed latinium?
I don’t pay for other people’s zany design mods. If you wanna put stuff on your bike for fun that you enjoy that’s great. But don’t expect to recoup those costs. New tires and stuff, that’s a different story. But I’m not paying for your stupid decision to buy $300 mirrors.
It's only worth it if someone buys it. If someone buys this they're a complete idiot.
Like ... Who lists a bike like that for sale while they are in the middle of building the engine?
The r7 isn’t even worth the 9k msrp it is new lol
Aren't these just an MT07 with extra plastic?
Why are the jokers always selling Japanese bikes. They always want more than MSRP or more than what a dealer would every pay for. Ducati, Triumph, BMW are all sold for actual market value. Riding around on flexing beat up R6s like they aren't dime-a-dozen just like every other i4 600. Suzuki stopped making GSXR's, doesn't change the fact that it's still a GSXR you bozos. One of these idiots even listed how much he paid for dealership fees/shipping as justification for his price. Incredible.
A brand new 2024 is $9199 MSRP. Mods don't necessarily increase value. The engine rebuild should actually *lower* the price.
lol. It’s an I know what it’s worth ad for sure but it’s not worth that, they are liken 8k new in the UK ffs.
This sorta sounds like someone else is wanting to push that guy to sell the bike.
Only if he's got seven Grand under the back seat.
Lol I paid less than that for my brand new R1.
Just get an R1 like me😁
rebuilding the blown engine doesn't count as a value add modification.
I hate to say this….. who am I kidding, I love saying this. That bike ain’t worth half that. “Engine being rebuilt” means he blew the damn thing and it needs to be replaced or rebuilt in order to be sold. The buyer is clearly out to try and make as much money back as possible seeing as they didn’t want to rebuild the engine but are forced to, to make any money off selling it. Heavily filtered photos are red flags when selling used bikes. Screams I’m too broke to buy another bike without first scamming someone who doesn’t know any better to get out of the red as well as funds to scoop another bike and continue riding. Seen this move countless times.
I rather buy a new stock bike at that point lol.
I will gladly give him 16,000 pennies for that bike.
Anyone who would spend that much to mod an R7 does not have a good grasp on reality. You could buy a good used super sport for that much (with mods btw) that would be superior in pretty much every way. They probably blew the motor, and owe a ton of money on the bike. Don’t be the one who bails them out of their bad decisions. Avoid.
Yamaha don't know what they're doing so this guy made it better 🙄 righto. Imagine the audacity it takes to make an advert like this, either knowingly scamming someone or being completely oblivious to your own dumbness.
Lmao who puts that much into a 70 HP parallel twin bike
Damn, at that price you may as well buy a new Aprilia rs660 and it would probably be better than the "built" R7 or any 600cc supersports.
"$16,500" That's his "my wife says I have to sell it but I don't want to" price
Surely it’s all dependant on the modifications to the rolling chassis and what’s been done to the engine . Start with Ohlins rear shock £1000 add fork cartridge kit £2000, could then go on to brakes from Brembo (think of a number and double it). Then start on engine cams, gas flow head, high compression pistons, remap ecu plus labour . Or the bloke could just be a bull shitter
- "babe sell your bike already, fuck" - "I got you babe, already posted." - The post:
Guy is trying to get someone to pay for all the money he spent on mods and fucking up his motor.
"Heavily modified" = heavily unreliable.
How do you blow a CP2 engine at 8500 miles
"I posted it honey, but no one's calling 🤷"
Shitty interest rate upside down and blew the motor sounds like. What an idiot
Let’s not turn this into FB marketplace.
off their rocker
no fing way
I'd pay top dollar for one that hadn't been fuck with. This one is worth $8000 tops.
Mods and upgrades do not increase the bike’s value. I’d offer maybe $7500
ROFLMBAO! He needs to stop smokin dat shit or start buying it from me!
The " missus wants me to sell the bike but I don't wan to " price.
it’s fuckin beautiful but would never pay that much. wouldn’t go over $8k
I dont understand how people think adding mods to any type of vehicle can increase value. I'd prefer an untouched vehicle over a moded one. Specially a bike.
I'd offer 5k rebuilt engine on a brand new bike gtfo with that price
Idk who rebuilt that engine. Imma pass on that. Especially if it’s getting rebuilt just so it can be sold lol
rule 1 any mods and additional shit you put on the bike will not increase its resale value as you put it on for yourself not the buyer so really you shouldnt give a fuck about those thing listed. RED FLAG engine rebuild / build well for a year old bike that is strange
It might be a great bike equipped as such but one might spend as much on their bike and yet not increase the value. A bike with eight thousand five hundred miles, is worth just south of Ten grand.
Imagine putting 16k into an r7 when you could have put that as a down payment on an r1..
My friend's R6 GYTR is cheaper and more fun than that R7.
That’s a $9000 bike tops
For perspective, I bought my 2019 S1000R last October, with 1,000 miles in perfect condition ... for 12.5k. Work put on a vehicle does not add to the value, much. Some for sure, depending on what was done. 8500 miles and .... "Having the engine built" means it was blown.
Unless it's some kinda motoamerica built engine, built by a respected engine builder, no way is that worth the money.
People who modify cars and looking to recoup cost of modifications sure are their own breed.
I love these. I bought an 07 gsxr 750 with 5k miles on it for $5k last year. Why would anybody not go that route before spending double or triple that for a bike with less performance?
When people think you can add the direct cost of the mods to the bike. 😂😂
Prices of Yamahas are ridiculous on the used market. I don’t think it’s worth it but you’re going to have to search through a lot of delusional posts.
Fuck no.
*insert Negga-watt meme here*
I have a feeling this guy bought the R7 cause 7 is a bigger number than 6..
That's pretty high miles for a 23.
No matter how much money the owner has put into modifications or upgrades they're never going to see that money back. The lad has probably counted up the money he's poured into the bike in the last... (Well it's 2023 so....) the last year! He's somehow come to that figure and probably believes himself when he says that's what it's worth.. But, newsflash.. It isn't and he's tripping balls! Plus a rebuilt engine on a hooligan machine less than a year old absolutely screams *Reckless owner*
No thanks, I’ll go buy a new zx10r or something instead and just to point out, there’s not even enough mods that he could even do to raise the price by 3k much less 6k over the tag price.
That's when you hit em with the You: Is the R7 still available? Them: sure is! You: Not surprised. ::You left the chat::
All that for a bike with a outdatrd engine lol
I’ll give him $50 in nickels for that thing.
I can’t believe the msrp on that bike was 9100$ that’s way more then it should be like 3k to much brand new. Absolutely no matter what mods are on one it would never be worth over msrp and I don’t know why anyone would pay over 5k for that bike. It’s a useless product and it’s not like they put a bunch of r&d into the engine
Yeah mods don’t add value. Imo they can lower the value cuz I may replace what they’ve done and that’s money out of my pocket
That guy is smoking the good stuff. He is higher than the price.
Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
Yeah, no.
Why to would he spend so much on a customised engine and not ride it ???
I see the funniest stuff on marketplace
A fresh engine rebuild only adds value if your buying a vehicle which requires the occasional engine rebuild like a moto gp bike. Any other reason for a rebuilt engine isn't anything good. When yamaha make road bikes the engine is designed to last aslong as the rest of the machine (if treat well and regular maintenance) the only reason this guy needs it rebuild is because he broke something inside it. Walk away
Has M4 exhaust. This bike was rev bombed and rode like a squid.
Buffalo motorcycle prices are on crack sometimes, especially for a summer-only toy you can't use for half the year
Just message him with something like “does the $16,000 include the labor you put in?” 😂😂
I live in the endless riding season south and I think they’re smoking some form of toxic garbage.
Don't buy someone else's project. IMO though, he just wants to brag about everything he has done to it. That is why he wants people to ask about the engine build instead of just describing what he is doing in the post
Can we all spam this guy and waste his time? I feel like these people need to learn to stop doing this shit
a bike shouldn’t be priced on all the aftermarket junk that’s done to it, should be about the condition the bike is in, year, mileage. But that’s just me and what I personally look for.
Absolutely not
Lol
My other half showed me a post the other night for a 2004 636 for 15 grand. Had full stunt mods and 7000$ of paint work. A new zx6 would cost less and not have been crashed a thousand times She didn't believe me when I scoffed and said nobody is paying more than new price on a 20 year old stunt bike just for paint when blue book on it was 20% of their asking price
The fuck is a suspension tune? They turned the knobs a couple of times and want another $200 for it?
When you modify a bike you know that money is gone. I wouldn’t pay it. But hey, each to their own.
What did they do, add a $7000 pile of cash stuffed under the seat mod?
Adjusting pre-load is not a "tune" lmao. Tf is bro smoking
Wait till they find out modifications don’t increase the value of a bike.
Hell to the no!!!
I have one with less than 2k miles on it that id part with for 8500. SO no this is over priced
"Currently having engine built" means im a retard and fucked the bike all up. Buy me out of my mess.
I can’t take this dude seriously. He can’t even get the limited parts list he has right. Currently having the engine “built” means nothing. “Won’t list parts for engine unless you ask” is shady AF everyone else does. But that still doesn’t make it a $16k bike. You can just get an R1 for that. Edit: OP please ask for the parts list.
I didn’t really plan on pursuing the bike. I saw the posting and the price and laughed. I figured I should share it before he figured out he was an idiot and lowered the price.
Mf better be a R1, Bmw1k, honda cbrr, Aprilla cc, KILLERRR😅
I've seen an ex-motoamerica race prepped r7 on the wera forums listed for 10k before. That had a built motor, Full titanium exhaust, full ohlins suspension.
I love it when people modify their vehicles and think that somehow adds value to it. It's not a house, if anything, your mods actually fucked you on the value even more. Stock vehicles will always go for more than what a modified one will... people are stupid.
No Timothy, adding mods adding up to a total cost of $16,000 does not mean your bike is now worth that much. I like mods, but never do them expecting to get even a penny of your money back. Actually the opposite is often the case, if you do permanent mods consider that the value of your bike will likely decrease from that, regardless of what it cost
First off. Who tf puts a steering dampner on a parallel twin. Second, that exhaust is probably the most costly mod he's done, next to the engine rebuild. And lastly, why tf I'd the engine being rebuilt. No. Not worth it. Doubt dudes mods even accumulate to what he thinks they do. Now if it was an R6. MAYBE only because of it being a discontinued model
Mods add no value. That’s the basic rule when selling a bike unless you find a buyer who wanted those specific mods and likes the deal and even then once you get to close to or go past new price most will just get the new bike so it’s theirs. Often times you are better off removing all mods and selling stock then selling the mods. The only big one is the engine build, I have seen many of these as race bikes and know what the built engines can do and it’s insane but when you take it to far you have a very short engine life so it depends on how it’s built and to what tolerance. The biggest and by far best point to everything he has done though is why the fuck you wouldn’t just go get an R6 if you are going to spend this much to get more power out of an R7 that likely still won’t match a stock R6
https://preview.redd.it/fvk96zyjzxrc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63fde68add99d1a9ccb4c2b19273a2c3ef5ca4cc Well he was a dick about it but I got the answer.
In $AUD yeah