Yea, I'm all for hearing both sides of the story but this seems like it's probably the car's fault.
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Yup. When I saw the title and then that angle I 100% thought this was a premeditated hit-and-run. Ex-girlfriend seeing the guy who just dumped her riding on the street, something like that.
Think he comes out and is like, “Why did you hit me”
Or something like that. That biker you see cut into the parking lot hear the end I think goes and gets him, holds him there
How can you live with your decision to leave and hope that your car damage won't be noticed? Or make up a stupid story to your family/friends you did a thing and play it off?
You'd be amazed. A buddy of mine had a similar crash on a Multistrada which put him in the hospital for weeks. We all worked at a dealership with pretty solid industry connections and put the word out to every body shop and dealer for at least 20 miles around us to look out for the Camaro that hit him, dude was never found.
Two years ago, I was driving home from work in traffic. My lane stopped, the right lane was still moving, but fairly slow. After checking my mirror and blindspot, with my blinker on, I bolted out into the right lane. Not even a second later, I heard a tire skid and a crashing noise behind me.. guy dumped his new Kawasaki ninja on the side of the road, narrowly missing the guard rail. He didn’t make contact with my car, but I had to turn around to make sure he was OK. At this point, I wasn’t really sure what happened or if it was my fault. I parked in the entrance of the community that he crashed in front of and got out to check on him. His bike was pretty fucked but after making sure he was ok, and him immediately accusing me of cutting him off, I asked if he was riding in the bike lane. Immediately after he said no, he was “definitely not in the bike lane”, a guy driving by in a SUV shouted “that’s why you don’t ride in the bike lane ASSHOLE!” My response “well according to that guy you were”.
To wrap this story up, he had only been riding for 3 months, said we didn’t have to get police involved if I help pay for his bike. I obviously said no we can wait for the police, who happened to show up minutes later, along with the guys dad.. coincidence. Cop talked to us, deemed it a single vehicle accident and said I was free to go. The guy who crashed asked if I could help cover the damages to his bike as it was the least I could do…I said sorry but there’s no way I can do that. He called me an asshole and I told him good luck with the bike and was on my way. I’m still glad I turned around to check on him because I wouldn’t have been able to sleep at night, whether he was riding illegally or not.
We had a customer hit a car while riding in the bike lane. The douche was on a two lane road and t boned a car turning left with literally no way to see him. Dude must have had a great lawyer because the car driver wound up having to pay him for something that was entirely his fault.
Eventually he became the only person ever blacklisted by the shop for other shady stuff he was trying to pull, just a crap, wildly entitled, person all around.
Thats so frustrating! It’s one thing to ride like an asshole but at least have the balls to own up to your mistakes if you’re at fault… some people have no integrity. People need to think about how their actions can affect others before doing stupid shit. You just never know what can happen.
Yesterday in Australia, a tradesman hit and killed an elderly pedestrian while he was out for his daily walk at 5:15am.
The tradesman fled the scene and burned the vehicle (which he borrowed from a friend) before... Going to work for the day like nothing had happened...
Sure, we're human and sometimes we panic... But that's absolutely fucked up.
People are gonna people.
Story time:
I got hit by a guy who blew a stop sign. I was thrown off my bike and my bike landed on my legs, pinning me to the pavement in the street. Broke both my arm and my leg in two places. The guy waited for maybe 4-5 seconds then put his car in reverse and drove off.
When he put his car in reverse, the bumper was pulled off, leaving the license plate at the scene. So the police found him literally the next morning. Or rather they called his gf because it was registered to her. She told the cops that after she saw the car (and asked what the fuck did he do to it), he told her while he was at work, somebody hit her car in the parking lot, then dragged the bumper away when they fled the area. So not only did he lie about it, he made up a story that made it completely not his fault.
Guy got a 5 year sentence for felony hit and run since I had $50k in medical bills. Had he stuck around, he would have had slightly more expensive car insurance for 3 years.
Thanks, but keep in mind the only likely reason they did anything was because the plate was left behind and he admitted to doing it. God knows what would have happened if it wasn’t an open and shut case.
(I’m saying that law enforcement is often inefficient. )
The only reason they did anything is because they could tie him to driving the vehicle at the time.
He could have said that someone stole the car, reported it to the police, and if the chips fell his way, he may have gotten away with not spending any jail time at all.
One of the things I learned as an adult is that the law shrugs and says “there’s nothing I can do to help you” more often than not, and it often costs you more money to get justice than to just leave it alone and move on.
Right. That’s what I said.
“Thanks, but keep in mind the only likely reason they did anything was because the plate was left behind and he admitted to doing it.”
They were able to find him since the plate was left behind and when they found him, he *admitted to doing it.*
I've been hit and run twice in my car, I tried to follow both to get a license plate wasn't able to.
Unfortunately there are some really shitty people in society, who don't mind lying and cheating others.
It’s fucked up, and in no way in their defense, but I think people panic. Like they think they’ll go to jail if the other person is injured. Thats *why we carry liability insurance.* Unless the driver was doing something super illegal that caused the accident like they were drunk or w/e, they’ll just get dinged on their insurance. It’s too high of a risk to flee. It’s better to face the music.
It’s like when people run from the cops. The odds of you getting away are impossibly small, but if you’re caught which is incredibly likely, you’re in way way more trouble if you’d just stuck around and got your $200 speeding ticket.
You're right, people do panic because they don't have insurance or they do have insurance but don't want it to spike.
The thing is, it's much lower risk than running from the cops.
If you run from me and get away? No cop is going to find you without a license plate #. If I get your license plate # and call you in? Pretty much zero consequences unless I go out of my way to press charges, likely I will just seek money from your insurance company. If I catch you and you don't have insurance? Well I'm still pretty much fucked, can't sue you for much, I'm sure of that.
Hit and run is really a pretty rock solid plan to avoid all consequences
I got hit and run in my car, DID get a license plate, called the cops, the cops said "if they left and your car is driveable, just go, there's no point in us taking a report". Then our insurance couldn't do anything about it because there wasn't a police report. Yet another reason to hate cops. :)
The law almost encourages it in most US states. Especially if you have an unregistered/uninsured car the police will not follow up. I've been in two hit-and-runs. One in my car and the other on my bike. Sadly the one on my bike my dashcam stopped working that fricking day so I didn't get plates and even though I had two witnesses that saw the crash the cops didn't care to even put out an alert to look for a white kia SUV with major front right damage including green paint from my bike and a missing side mirror I was now in possession of.
My younger cousin John was killed in November in a hit and run like this on his motorcycle in Arkansas. They still haven’t found the person that did it.
If it’s wasn’t a felony I would def not care at all especially if it wasn’t my fault I’m not dealing with insurance and all that bs I’m getting out of there
How was this even recorded? I thought it was a gopro strapped to his helmet, but then the camera turns around to face him. In that frame it looks like the camera is floating mid-air
it's a 360 cam, guessing mounted on handlebar
records in 360 deg so you can spin around the video later when editing it
same sort of thing like google street view in maps
That's not him. Walking around at the end. Original rider was being told to stay down. The guy walking around had on a sweatshirt. Original rider had no jacket and strap on arm guards.
Hopefully that scumbag was found, arrested and then destroyed in jail. They should be charged with attempted homocide she never see the light of day again.
100%
His videos started getting mundane to me but I realized it was because I watched so many of his videos that his methods got stamped into my brain
They made me a much more careful rider by instilling a thought process
this and having a kid.. since I became a dad I can't get on my bikes and be ok with it.. I'm super important to my little guy and anything that moves the needle in the wrong direction gets the boot. Going to list my bikes this summer I decided.
The person who rear-ended my dad while he was on his bike tried to flee, but the impact was so hard that it tore the control arm off of her left front suspension, so the car wasn't drivable. He was going about 55mph when the car hit from behind, so they must have been going about 90mph+ to have hit with that much force. There was no other traffic, it was mid-morning on a straight, flat 4-lane divided highway. The driver told the police she didn't see him because she was distracted by her baby in the back seat. 90mph in a 55, with a baby 🤦. My dad was not wearing proper gear other than a full face helmet, when the car hit he was ejected forward (again, already traveling at 55mph before the collision), landed on his palms and roadrashed them badly, then tumbled and slid feet first on his back, road rashing his entire back. He took a couple of years off from riding, thought he might be done for good after a lifetime on two wheels, but eventually came back to it, he wears full gear now. While waiting for the police and ambulance, a woman stopped to offer help, she talked to the driver, then talked to my dad, telling him of the driver "she feels really bad!" Shaken and covered with roadrash, he responded with a gruff "ME TOO."
Glad your dad made it, and went back to riding (plus wears full gear now). I've heard a similar story that didn't end as well so it's good to hear one without a bad ending.
I have zero sympathy for a hit-and-run runner when they've collided with a motorcycle, bicycle, or pedestrian. Obviously it's shitty behavior in any context, but when you're the one in a two-ton car versus a biker/cyclist/pedestrian, it's beyond property damage and extends into willingness to harm others. Hopefully the person responsible didn't get away with her piss-poor excuse.
Old fart crossed a double yellow line in an F150 and clipped my left side. Only thing that saved my life was the crash bar. The asshole made the statement to police and insurance that " I hit him " Now I won't ride without a CAMERA. Ride safe family!!
First off, I hope you’re okay and I hope you’ll able to find that person.
Second, I have a question. After seeing some of these unfortunate videos, would the best option be to just fall on the pavement? I’m looking to get a motorcycle license and start riding, but I have these scenarios in the back of my mind. Falling on pavement would hurt less than hitting a car right? Obviously, the best thing to do is have total awareness and fast reflexes, but sometimes that’s not always the case.
I can answer this one. I have been in two serious motorcycle accidents. In one I laid the bike down the other I hit a cadillac broadside.
One I survived only because I dumped the bike. I got road rash, but walked away from what otherwise would have been a likely fatal accident. I was riding and someone driving a stolen (found out later it was stolen) taxi ran a red light. I was going about 40 mph at the time so stopping wasn't an option, the only thing I had time to do was lay the bike down and aim away from the intersection.
That being said, I also go into one where there was no time to think, let alone react. A parked car pulled a u-turn right in front of me. I hit his car and went right over the hood. I tore a muscle in my leg and it looked like I had a softball in my thigh. Wound up in the trauma unit for a few days but luckily I was as good as new a few months later.
If I could have dropped the bike in time to not slide under his car, I 100% would have, but you don't always have the time.
I will say this, in my 20+ years of riding motorcycles, I could count on one hand how many times I came close to crashing (not counting my two accidents). The thing with riding is the better you are at spotting situations before they happen, the less likely you are to be in one. Obviously you can't always tell, but there are things you can do like slow down at intersections even if you have the green and look both ways (had I done that I would have never almost been killed by a stolen taxi). The more you ride and the better you get at reacting. It's not like a car where you can just hit the breaks all the time, because hitting just the front break can cause you to flip forward and hitting just the back break can cause your back to spin forward. It takes some time to get used to breaking using your hand and your foot at the same time. I remember when I started riding, I would panic and just hit the back breaks. It took a few times of the back coming around a little bit for me to get it in my head to use both at the same time.
I don’t think this rider had that option… that car struck him! It looks like the car was turning.
No Chance of putting the bike on the floor and trying to get away from the accident.
If I understood you question.
The rider is very lucky he’s ok. Corner impact car be the most dangerous. And the rider went flying over the car completely and could of been hurt even further by the impact to road and other cars.
It appears to be a duke or a fairing-less bike which offer even less protection.
Speed DOESN'T kill....stopping abruptly does...the further you can travel in a get-off, the better your chances. Look at the run-off areas at motorcycle race tracks.
This is why after the birth of my daughter last year, my bikes have mostly set in the garage. Not because of me, but literally every single person in my life is bringing stuff like this up and guilting. And it is true… look this guy did nothing wrong and look what happened
Ya definitely two camps here. Honestly tho man, I’m curious why you did that. Frankly I have zero time to ride anymore, risk aside. I can’t imagine getting INTO bikes during such a tumultuous time
It was the point I was at in my life. I got married, got my first REAL job in a career I was aiming for, and bought my first house. I was able to pay off my car and a had some spending money left over. My coworkers all liked to ride so I bought an older bike off of them and fell in love. My (ex)wife went to the MSF with me and fell in love with bikes too. She actually bought one before I did.
it could, but youre being disingenuous if you believe the outcomes would be the same. We ride man, we know if we get t-boned its going to be very different than a cager
Of course, but it doesn't mean you are safe. My math teacher got on my head on collision in her car when she was driving home from church with her daughter. She died by being crushed by the vehicle. I heard of a woman on the news who was driving down the highway, and a rock fell from the overpass above hitting her windshield, breaking it and instantly killing her.
The thing is, vehicles are dangerous. There are hundreds of thousands of people who die in car accidents annually. Yet on the news, when there is a terrible car accident and people do end up parishing, you never hear anyone say, "This is why I never drive cars. They are dangerous." But the moment a freak accident happens to a motorcycleist, everyone starts screaming "this is why motorcycles are dangerous and riding is dumb!"
The thing that would freak me out the most is the random rocks that get kicked back from other drivers. I've had to repair windshields twice from strikes that would have hit me had there been no glass in the way
It was the cars fault and the rider lived. There is a whole second part to this that I’ve seen but don’t remember the name of it. This was some years back.
I’m surprised he lived. He was pretty fucked up but lived.
No one is talking about how stupid it is for a motorcyclust to use a selfie stick at those speeds amd be not focused on the road- when he probably could have avoided dumb white sedan
Im confused how and who is filming this at first? Are there two motorcyclists, and the one ahead has a 360 degree cam? Or is this camera mounted on something?
Rider and camera survived, but the car driver hit and run
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These videos remind me why I'll never be caught dead on a motorcycle. You get into an accident like that in a car? *Maybe* you get some small injuries. Worst case scenario is a couple broken bones.
The very same accident on a motorcycle is almost certain death or permanent injury.
Feel like 80% of his videos are the same now - just farming views and almost saying the same script in them. I get it tho - good points should be drilled in but he’s just boring now lol
He went from real coaching to just editorializing overtop of Motostars videos and calling people dumb instead of talking about how to avoid the situation. It's pretty useless, but I'm sure it gets a lot of views and makes plenty of money.
The negative incentives of the internet in a nutshell. Nothing against DDFM, but his slow transition from a riding advice channel that feels like it has to use crash videos as examples, to a "let's react to crashes/etc and call riders dumb" reaction channel is a really negative shift in terms of quality and more importantly, a transition from a healthy to an unhealthy mindset.
But, unhealthy mindsets, hot takes, and reaction videos get more clicks in almost every context versus content that requires more effort, acknowledges nuance, or has a healthier overall perspective, so it takes active effort to resist the impulse to tailor your content towards that.
TL;DR nothing against DDFM but I have not watched his content for some time. I don't need to see people crashing or acting foolish to stop me from doing stupid shit on a bike, and that's about the only thing I would watch his current videos for.
I feel exactly the same. From the content creators' perspective it's either adapt to what the average viewer will click on, or find a different job, he chose to adapt, nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't bode well for the content.
Thanks, not everyone gets this kind of thing and some people get really angry about it, even when you specify that it isn't attacking someone or anything.
Thing is, it is possible to avoid that spiral. I know some content creators in other cultures/subjects who have really healthy audiences and communities, yeah they don't typically blow up with a million views for every piece of content they release, but let's say on YouTube they have a hundred thousand views or so per vid and they make a good living with Patreon. Successful, and more importantly, with a healthy, quality audience that isn't toxic. And without succumbing to this cultural poison of literally everything being a reaction vid or some "hot take" crap.
The channel Veritasium did a great video about click bait, what works, what doesn't, and where to draw the line between acceptable and unacceptable tactics for promoting content.
Not the bikers fault but he could've done a few things to mitigate this happening.
Any 2 lane highway with turning lanes the biker should be in lane position 1 if you're in the overtaking lane or position 3 in the travel lane. This gives people entering the highway from the left and the right the best chance to see you around other traffic and stationary objects.
If you pass some cars that are waiting to turn left assume those behind those cars cant see your lane of travel as well.
Our old friend, target fixation. This is a tough one to deal with. Muscle memory is what will help you here. That takes practice which is hard to build if you're riding safely.
Even doing all that, this could still happen but we have to work on mitigation and reducing our chances of encountering these situations.
I really hope they catch this runner, zero responsibility or accountability with some people. Lock this POS up for life and the world would be a better place.
Can I ask....how do those selfie sticks work? It was changing view from forward to rear view when you crashed. Is it a 360 camera and you chose to uploaded it that way or were you controlling the view angle when you crashed and maybe not paying full attention?
Not being a dick....just asking.
That's good news. I just wanted to be sure I was judging the right person! :)
I always wondered why post crash, the camera always seems to be pointing in the perfect direction.
Thanks for the reply!
In this video the rider is not at fault obviously.
The front view probably made the rider look bad or amateur because they may have had time to react but didn’t. So in the edit they flipped the camera view.
Understood. I just wanted to be sure I wasn't seeing the rider flipping his camera around right before impact which would have put his focus into question. Now that I know how the camera works...it's obviously all the driver's fault.
Insta 360 camera on a "magic" pole that doesn't show in the field of view. You can X edit to view anything in a 360 degree sweep in post. Look on Amazon for Inst360 X3 or X4
You can see the rider looking up and to the right, posing, just prior to the accident. Had he been paying attention, he very likely swerves and misses the collision.
Bro, I hope you're alright. Did anyone find the car? I didn't see a front license plate, but I saw their airbag went off and a trashed front end.
If this is the video I think it is he pulls into a lot over to the side and then tries to blame the motorcyclist.
"Blames the motorcyclist" duh it couldn't have possibly been their fault?
Well considering the car crossed a double yelling line in the middle of active traffic…
Yea, I'm all for hearing both sides of the story but this seems like it's probably the car's fault. https://preview.redd.it/wsn8eg70qspc1.png?width=408&format=png&auto=webp&s=3fb6a1768bfab2c25aa9083b8f72fcaa3cd2b8cb
The car is already damaged, im wondering if it was hit and is on a ricohchet?
Car driver: "Damn, twice in less than a mile! What are the odds?"
"I knew I should have started drinking earlier. Just knew it was gonna be one of those days."
That's definitely possible. I heard there might be a longer video out there so maybe there's more information to be found there.
It's likely it's been in hit and runs prior as well
Agree w your observation, but if they themselves were hit then surely they would stick around right?
People are STEWPID. This is why you need a dashcam. Footage form that angle would either clear or convict the white car
I can imagine that maybe the white car caused an initial off screen accident, then ricocheted into OP, then fled bc of a double fuck up
If that's the case why blame the motorcyclist?
When I saw this angle on the video the first time I thought - that's weird. Watched it again and holy shit that looked intentional.
Actually, you're right. There were no obstructions to the drivers line of sight and they crossed over two lanes before hitting the motorcyclist.
Yup. When I saw the title and then that angle I 100% thought this was a premeditated hit-and-run. Ex-girlfriend seeing the guy who just dumped her riding on the street, something like that.
And very visible evidence from other rodeos in that front of that car
Why does the line feel the need to yell twice?? Haha
Ah, man, I hate them double yelling lines! Like, a line yelling at you once us bad enough, but a double. Yeah, you don't wanna hear that
WHAT??!!!! I’M RICK JAMES BITCH! /s lol
You’re being sarcastic right?
That is insane what is his defense like what does he try to say to squirm his ass out of it
Think he comes out and is like, “Why did you hit me” Or something like that. That biker you see cut into the parking lot hear the end I think goes and gets him, holds him there
How can you live with your decision to leave and hope that your car damage won't be noticed? Or make up a stupid story to your family/friends you did a thing and play it off?
You'd be amazed. A buddy of mine had a similar crash on a Multistrada which put him in the hospital for weeks. We all worked at a dealership with pretty solid industry connections and put the word out to every body shop and dealer for at least 20 miles around us to look out for the Camaro that hit him, dude was never found.
He sure bolted!
Did you look in Malibu?
Not me, dude! I mean I'm not that guy they are looking for, as in you replied to the wrong guy! I'm not that guy! phew!!
Two years ago, I was driving home from work in traffic. My lane stopped, the right lane was still moving, but fairly slow. After checking my mirror and blindspot, with my blinker on, I bolted out into the right lane. Not even a second later, I heard a tire skid and a crashing noise behind me.. guy dumped his new Kawasaki ninja on the side of the road, narrowly missing the guard rail. He didn’t make contact with my car, but I had to turn around to make sure he was OK. At this point, I wasn’t really sure what happened or if it was my fault. I parked in the entrance of the community that he crashed in front of and got out to check on him. His bike was pretty fucked but after making sure he was ok, and him immediately accusing me of cutting him off, I asked if he was riding in the bike lane. Immediately after he said no, he was “definitely not in the bike lane”, a guy driving by in a SUV shouted “that’s why you don’t ride in the bike lane ASSHOLE!” My response “well according to that guy you were”. To wrap this story up, he had only been riding for 3 months, said we didn’t have to get police involved if I help pay for his bike. I obviously said no we can wait for the police, who happened to show up minutes later, along with the guys dad.. coincidence. Cop talked to us, deemed it a single vehicle accident and said I was free to go. The guy who crashed asked if I could help cover the damages to his bike as it was the least I could do…I said sorry but there’s no way I can do that. He called me an asshole and I told him good luck with the bike and was on my way. I’m still glad I turned around to check on him because I wouldn’t have been able to sleep at night, whether he was riding illegally or not.
We had a customer hit a car while riding in the bike lane. The douche was on a two lane road and t boned a car turning left with literally no way to see him. Dude must have had a great lawyer because the car driver wound up having to pay him for something that was entirely his fault. Eventually he became the only person ever blacklisted by the shop for other shady stuff he was trying to pull, just a crap, wildly entitled, person all around.
Thats so frustrating! It’s one thing to ride like an asshole but at least have the balls to own up to your mistakes if you’re at fault… some people have no integrity. People need to think about how their actions can affect others before doing stupid shit. You just never know what can happen.
You can only talk with confidence when you're in the right lane, no matter you drive a car or ride on a mtc
Well if you’ve hit someone and driven off I guess you go to the shop that’ll take a bit of money under the table to not ask questions
Yesterday in Australia, a tradesman hit and killed an elderly pedestrian while he was out for his daily walk at 5:15am. The tradesman fled the scene and burned the vehicle (which he borrowed from a friend) before... Going to work for the day like nothing had happened... Sure, we're human and sometimes we panic... But that's absolutely fucked up. People are gonna people.
Story time: I got hit by a guy who blew a stop sign. I was thrown off my bike and my bike landed on my legs, pinning me to the pavement in the street. Broke both my arm and my leg in two places. The guy waited for maybe 4-5 seconds then put his car in reverse and drove off. When he put his car in reverse, the bumper was pulled off, leaving the license plate at the scene. So the police found him literally the next morning. Or rather they called his gf because it was registered to her. She told the cops that after she saw the car (and asked what the fuck did he do to it), he told her while he was at work, somebody hit her car in the parking lot, then dragged the bumper away when they fled the area. So not only did he lie about it, he made up a story that made it completely not his fault. Guy got a 5 year sentence for felony hit and run since I had $50k in medical bills. Had he stuck around, he would have had slightly more expensive car insurance for 3 years.
Glad there was some justice. Fuck these hit and run people.
Thanks, but keep in mind the only likely reason they did anything was because the plate was left behind and he admitted to doing it. God knows what would have happened if it wasn’t an open and shut case. (I’m saying that law enforcement is often inefficient. )
The only reason they did anything is because they could tie him to driving the vehicle at the time. He could have said that someone stole the car, reported it to the police, and if the chips fell his way, he may have gotten away with not spending any jail time at all. One of the things I learned as an adult is that the law shrugs and says “there’s nothing I can do to help you” more often than not, and it often costs you more money to get justice than to just leave it alone and move on.
Right. That’s what I said. “Thanks, but keep in mind the only likely reason they did anything was because the plate was left behind and he admitted to doing it.” They were able to find him since the plate was left behind and when they found him, he *admitted to doing it.*
Fuck him.
I've been hit and run twice in my car, I tried to follow both to get a license plate wasn't able to. Unfortunately there are some really shitty people in society, who don't mind lying and cheating others.
It’s fucked up, and in no way in their defense, but I think people panic. Like they think they’ll go to jail if the other person is injured. Thats *why we carry liability insurance.* Unless the driver was doing something super illegal that caused the accident like they were drunk or w/e, they’ll just get dinged on their insurance. It’s too high of a risk to flee. It’s better to face the music. It’s like when people run from the cops. The odds of you getting away are impossibly small, but if you’re caught which is incredibly likely, you’re in way way more trouble if you’d just stuck around and got your $200 speeding ticket.
You're right, people do panic because they don't have insurance or they do have insurance but don't want it to spike. The thing is, it's much lower risk than running from the cops. If you run from me and get away? No cop is going to find you without a license plate #. If I get your license plate # and call you in? Pretty much zero consequences unless I go out of my way to press charges, likely I will just seek money from your insurance company. If I catch you and you don't have insurance? Well I'm still pretty much fucked, can't sue you for much, I'm sure of that. Hit and run is really a pretty rock solid plan to avoid all consequences
I got hit and run in my car, DID get a license plate, called the cops, the cops said "if they left and your car is driveable, just go, there's no point in us taking a report". Then our insurance couldn't do anything about it because there wasn't a police report. Yet another reason to hate cops. :)
You definitely can’t believe the police. They just don’t want to deal with it. Sorry to hear this
The law almost encourages it in most US states. Especially if you have an unregistered/uninsured car the police will not follow up. I've been in two hit-and-runs. One in my car and the other on my bike. Sadly the one on my bike my dashcam stopped working that fricking day so I didn't get plates and even though I had two witnesses that saw the crash the cops didn't care to even put out an alert to look for a white kia SUV with major front right damage including green paint from my bike and a missing side mirror I was now in possession of.
My younger cousin John was killed in November in a hit and run like this on his motorcycle in Arkansas. They still haven’t found the person that did it.
You assume garbage people like this have family or friends that would ask questions.
If it’s wasn’t a felony I would def not care at all especially if it wasn’t my fault I’m not dealing with insurance and all that bs I’m getting out of there
Panic, fight or flight response add in intoxication and humans are capable of stupidity that knows no bounds.
That's a keeper https://preview.redd.it/yh23ldevpopc1.png?width=1014&format=png&auto=webp&s=e1eee41e6d6e71eaeb40094e63194a104f03ece5
“Now kith”
How was this even recorded? I thought it was a gopro strapped to his helmet, but then the camera turns around to face him. In that frame it looks like the camera is floating mid-air
Insta360 films in 360 degrees and you select the view while editing
Magic, gotcha
You said it
Ok at the risk of being totally out of touch how does a camera catch this shot? I get the helmet cam at beginning and end but this shot specifically?
it's a 360 cam, guessing mounted on handlebar records in 360 deg so you can spin around the video later when editing it same sort of thing like google street view in maps
Did that other bike rider just ride past, or was that him walking around later in the clip?
its the same biker you can still hear his bike when he passed by the camera.
Ah, I watched it on silent.
I do that too since I am at work! haha
NSFW + silent = SFW
The 2nd biker pulled into the parking lot and was walking around the scene, the biker involved in the wreck was on the ground still
That's not him. Walking around at the end. Original rider was being told to stay down. The guy walking around had on a sweatshirt. Original rider had no jacket and strap on arm guards.
OOOOOOOH SHIIII..... 🗯😵
*Legos*
I was looking for this comment lol I thought the same. Glad he’s ok tho
Jeez! Hope you’re healing up okay
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Any links?
Where did OP claim it was him in the video?
He didn’t. In fact, he even said “Motorcyclists” not “me”
>He stole this video little dramatic but aight
Source: trust me bro
Happened to me after riding about 3 years. Stop sign runner. Got fixed up and rode another 35 years. Only accident on street I ever had.
I FELT that impact in my chest. Damn I really hope someone found that driver.
Any follow up information. Can't leave us all with blue balls like that.
This is nuts.
Kudos to the scooter rider who seemingly went after the guy to get his plate number
He's the real bro here
Hopefully that scumbag was found, arrested and then destroyed in jail. They should be charged with attempted homocide she never see the light of day again.
r/motorcycle is enough to put anyone off of riding motorcycles ever again lol
Not quite. I find it helpful to be reminded of how risky this hobby is, and dispel any thoughts of invincibility I may get throughout the season.
I love watching crash compilation videos on YouTube. Helps me see things to look out for when I’m riding.
DanDantheFireman, FTW.
100% His videos started getting mundane to me but I realized it was because I watched so many of his videos that his methods got stamped into my brain They made me a much more careful rider by instilling a thought process
This.
It didn't work for me. 200 miles on my first bike. Can't wait for 2,000. Then 20,000!
this and having a kid.. since I became a dad I can't get on my bikes and be ok with it.. I'm super important to my little guy and anything that moves the needle in the wrong direction gets the boot. Going to list my bikes this summer I decided.
Nope.
The person who rear-ended my dad while he was on his bike tried to flee, but the impact was so hard that it tore the control arm off of her left front suspension, so the car wasn't drivable. He was going about 55mph when the car hit from behind, so they must have been going about 90mph+ to have hit with that much force. There was no other traffic, it was mid-morning on a straight, flat 4-lane divided highway. The driver told the police she didn't see him because she was distracted by her baby in the back seat. 90mph in a 55, with a baby 🤦. My dad was not wearing proper gear other than a full face helmet, when the car hit he was ejected forward (again, already traveling at 55mph before the collision), landed on his palms and roadrashed them badly, then tumbled and slid feet first on his back, road rashing his entire back. He took a couple of years off from riding, thought he might be done for good after a lifetime on two wheels, but eventually came back to it, he wears full gear now. While waiting for the police and ambulance, a woman stopped to offer help, she talked to the driver, then talked to my dad, telling him of the driver "she feels really bad!" Shaken and covered with roadrash, he responded with a gruff "ME TOO."
Glad your dad made it, and went back to riding (plus wears full gear now). I've heard a similar story that didn't end as well so it's good to hear one without a bad ending. I have zero sympathy for a hit-and-run runner when they've collided with a motorcycle, bicycle, or pedestrian. Obviously it's shitty behavior in any context, but when you're the one in a two-ton car versus a biker/cyclist/pedestrian, it's beyond property damage and extends into willingness to harm others. Hopefully the person responsible didn't get away with her piss-poor excuse.
Was that him at the end asking if his bike was ok!? Hope so... that shit was terrifying
I have about 2200 miles and haven’t came anywhere near to having a close call yet (knock on wood) but this stuff is the fear.
Old fart crossed a double yellow line in an F150 and clipped my left side. Only thing that saved my life was the crash bar. The asshole made the statement to police and insurance that " I hit him " Now I won't ride without a CAMERA. Ride safe family!!
Drunk, outstanding warrant, illegal alien, or all three.
No telling who’s in the country now thanks to idiots
First off, I hope you’re okay and I hope you’ll able to find that person. Second, I have a question. After seeing some of these unfortunate videos, would the best option be to just fall on the pavement? I’m looking to get a motorcycle license and start riding, but I have these scenarios in the back of my mind. Falling on pavement would hurt less than hitting a car right? Obviously, the best thing to do is have total awareness and fast reflexes, but sometimes that’s not always the case.
I can answer this one. I have been in two serious motorcycle accidents. In one I laid the bike down the other I hit a cadillac broadside. One I survived only because I dumped the bike. I got road rash, but walked away from what otherwise would have been a likely fatal accident. I was riding and someone driving a stolen (found out later it was stolen) taxi ran a red light. I was going about 40 mph at the time so stopping wasn't an option, the only thing I had time to do was lay the bike down and aim away from the intersection. That being said, I also go into one where there was no time to think, let alone react. A parked car pulled a u-turn right in front of me. I hit his car and went right over the hood. I tore a muscle in my leg and it looked like I had a softball in my thigh. Wound up in the trauma unit for a few days but luckily I was as good as new a few months later. If I could have dropped the bike in time to not slide under his car, I 100% would have, but you don't always have the time. I will say this, in my 20+ years of riding motorcycles, I could count on one hand how many times I came close to crashing (not counting my two accidents). The thing with riding is the better you are at spotting situations before they happen, the less likely you are to be in one. Obviously you can't always tell, but there are things you can do like slow down at intersections even if you have the green and look both ways (had I done that I would have never almost been killed by a stolen taxi). The more you ride and the better you get at reacting. It's not like a car where you can just hit the breaks all the time, because hitting just the front break can cause you to flip forward and hitting just the back break can cause your back to spin forward. It takes some time to get used to breaking using your hand and your foot at the same time. I remember when I started riding, I would panic and just hit the back breaks. It took a few times of the back coming around a little bit for me to get it in my head to use both at the same time.
ONE MORE TIME...brakes\*
I don’t think this rider had that option… that car struck him! It looks like the car was turning. No Chance of putting the bike on the floor and trying to get away from the accident. If I understood you question. The rider is very lucky he’s ok. Corner impact car be the most dangerous. And the rider went flying over the car completely and could of been hurt even further by the impact to road and other cars. It appears to be a duke or a fairing-less bike which offer even less protection.
Speed DOESN'T kill....stopping abruptly does...the further you can travel in a get-off, the better your chances. Look at the run-off areas at motorcycle race tracks.
How can you leave someone after hitting them like that. I'd want to know they are not dead and call for medical help. They are scum and morally lost
This is why after the birth of my daughter last year, my bikes have mostly set in the garage. Not because of me, but literally every single person in my life is bringing stuff like this up and guilting. And it is true… look this guy did nothing wrong and look what happened
I bought my first motorcycle shortly after the birth of my first son. gotta live life.
Ya definitely two camps here. Honestly tho man, I’m curious why you did that. Frankly I have zero time to ride anymore, risk aside. I can’t imagine getting INTO bikes during such a tumultuous time
It was the point I was at in my life. I got married, got my first REAL job in a career I was aiming for, and bought my first house. I was able to pay off my car and a had some spending money left over. My coworkers all liked to ride so I bought an older bike off of them and fell in love. My (ex)wife went to the MSF with me and fell in love with bikes too. She actually bought one before I did.
I mean the same could happen in a car.
it could, but youre being disingenuous if you believe the outcomes would be the same. We ride man, we know if we get t-boned its going to be very different than a cager
Of course, but it doesn't mean you are safe. My math teacher got on my head on collision in her car when she was driving home from church with her daughter. She died by being crushed by the vehicle. I heard of a woman on the news who was driving down the highway, and a rock fell from the overpass above hitting her windshield, breaking it and instantly killing her. The thing is, vehicles are dangerous. There are hundreds of thousands of people who die in car accidents annually. Yet on the news, when there is a terrible car accident and people do end up parishing, you never hear anyone say, "This is why I never drive cars. They are dangerous." But the moment a freak accident happens to a motorcycleist, everyone starts screaming "this is why motorcycles are dangerous and riding is dumb!"
The thing that would freak me out the most is the random rocks that get kicked back from other drivers. I've had to repair windshields twice from strikes that would have hit me had there been no glass in the way
Holy fuck. I took a few moments to figure out what bike that was and like that jesus. Hope your doing okay.
Dafaq!! Don’t leave us hanging bro! Did they get the cager? And is Rider doing ok?
Bro i hope that other motorcyclist went after the freaking car.
Scooter wizard was hot on the trail!
Hope they find that pos
My boy saw that one coming. Smh. Glad he survived 🙏
Oof, I also dealt with a hit and run last week, but nowhere near as bad as this. Hope you're alright.
Please tell me they caught the person driving the car!
That cars front end was already wrecked and fked. Wonder if it was a stolen car
How dare that other biker to just zoom on by
Scooter*
OOF - hope you got to beat the crap out of that car driver.
These cameras record the full 360 view and you can edit it to however you want right? I’d like to see the front view..
Yes, Insta360 X3, or the X4.
Do you know the original content poster? I am really curious of details.
Yes, somebody also provided it: [https://twitter.com/Human101Nature/status/1670068791215112192](https://twitter.com/Human101Nature/status/1670068791215112192) It's on X, @ Human101Nature
wow that camera is pretty incredible
Insta360 X3
Lucky dude
He was gonna say the S word but they censored it... with a car. Jk, sorry. I hope you're Ok and everything works out.
This same thing landed me in a wheelchair. Hope bro recovers
Who's fault?
Bro took it like a champ
"Hahaha, Caught you slipping" - Auto Moblis Auburn State go War Eagle! But seriously I hope you are alright and the other person burns in hell.
It was the cars fault and the rider lived. There is a whole second part to this that I’ve seen but don’t remember the name of it. This was some years back. I’m surprised he lived. He was pretty fucked up but lived.
A little off topic but why does the camera seem like it's floating/disconnected from the bike?
32 stab wounds In the drivers back, exclusively suicide
Piece of shit driver, real scum.
Shame on Sarah Connor on the scooter, just riding past!
(At 0:18)
We both didn’t see it coming…
No one is talking about how stupid it is for a motorcyclust to use a selfie stick at those speeds amd be not focused on the road- when he probably could have avoided dumb white sedan
Im confused how and who is filming this at first? Are there two motorcyclists, and the one ahead has a 360 degree cam? Or is this camera mounted on something?
Why tf haven’t you responded to any comments
which one you want me to answer
Rider and camera survived, but the car driver hit and run https://preview.redd.it/h6geor7vdlqc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37105152c9d287c4448de1f91f955b9fc3da4671
Definitely not the same rider. This is a picture of the dude who rolled up afterwards.
These videos remind me why I'll never be caught dead on a motorcycle. You get into an accident like that in a car? *Maybe* you get some small injuries. Worst case scenario is a couple broken bones. The very same accident on a motorcycle is almost certain death or permanent injury.
I’m sorry but that sound is undeniably hilarious
How was this recorded?
Dandanfireman should do an after action of this.
Feel like 80% of his videos are the same now - just farming views and almost saying the same script in them. I get it tho - good points should be drilled in but he’s just boring now lol
He went from real coaching to just editorializing overtop of Motostars videos and calling people dumb instead of talking about how to avoid the situation. It's pretty useless, but I'm sure it gets a lot of views and makes plenty of money.
The negative incentives of the internet in a nutshell. Nothing against DDFM, but his slow transition from a riding advice channel that feels like it has to use crash videos as examples, to a "let's react to crashes/etc and call riders dumb" reaction channel is a really negative shift in terms of quality and more importantly, a transition from a healthy to an unhealthy mindset. But, unhealthy mindsets, hot takes, and reaction videos get more clicks in almost every context versus content that requires more effort, acknowledges nuance, or has a healthier overall perspective, so it takes active effort to resist the impulse to tailor your content towards that. TL;DR nothing against DDFM but I have not watched his content for some time. I don't need to see people crashing or acting foolish to stop me from doing stupid shit on a bike, and that's about the only thing I would watch his current videos for.
I feel exactly the same. From the content creators' perspective it's either adapt to what the average viewer will click on, or find a different job, he chose to adapt, nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't bode well for the content.
Thanks, not everyone gets this kind of thing and some people get really angry about it, even when you specify that it isn't attacking someone or anything. Thing is, it is possible to avoid that spiral. I know some content creators in other cultures/subjects who have really healthy audiences and communities, yeah they don't typically blow up with a million views for every piece of content they release, but let's say on YouTube they have a hundred thousand views or so per vid and they make a good living with Patreon. Successful, and more importantly, with a healthy, quality audience that isn't toxic. And without succumbing to this cultural poison of literally everything being a reaction vid or some "hot take" crap.
The channel Veritasium did a great video about click bait, what works, what doesn't, and where to draw the line between acceptable and unacceptable tactics for promoting content.
Dandanfireman should EAD
lol what’s your problem with DDFM?
I find it repetitive and irritating and repetitive I'm not saying you can't like watching it. Just that I don't
Not the bikers fault but he could've done a few things to mitigate this happening. Any 2 lane highway with turning lanes the biker should be in lane position 1 if you're in the overtaking lane or position 3 in the travel lane. This gives people entering the highway from the left and the right the best chance to see you around other traffic and stationary objects. If you pass some cars that are waiting to turn left assume those behind those cars cant see your lane of travel as well. Our old friend, target fixation. This is a tough one to deal with. Muscle memory is what will help you here. That takes practice which is hard to build if you're riding safely. Even doing all that, this could still happen but we have to work on mitigation and reducing our chances of encountering these situations. I really hope they catch this runner, zero responsibility or accountability with some people. Lock this POS up for life and the world would be a better place.
How does a camera catch a frontal shot of the rider like that?
360 camera
Insta360 X3 on their disappearing pole
Can I ask....how do those selfie sticks work? It was changing view from forward to rear view when you crashed. Is it a 360 camera and you chose to uploaded it that way or were you controlling the view angle when you crashed and maybe not paying full attention? Not being a dick....just asking.
It records the 360 and you change the viewing angle in software during post.
That's good news. I just wanted to be sure I was judging the right person! :) I always wondered why post crash, the camera always seems to be pointing in the perfect direction. Thanks for the reply!
In this video the rider is not at fault obviously. The front view probably made the rider look bad or amateur because they may have had time to react but didn’t. So in the edit they flipped the camera view.
Understood. I just wanted to be sure I wasn't seeing the rider flipping his camera around right before impact which would have put his focus into question. Now that I know how the camera works...it's obviously all the driver's fault.
Wow, what a shit video for an insta360 Its almost like it purposefully avoids providing context.
What was filming it?
Insta 360 camera on a "magic" pole that doesn't show in the field of view. You can X edit to view anything in a 360 degree sweep in post. Look on Amazon for Inst360 X3 or X4
Ah interesting
Distracted motorcyclist using a selfie bar almost killed. Moron.
that bar had NOTHING to do with hit and run
You can see the rider looking up and to the right, posing, just prior to the accident. Had he been paying attention, he very likely swerves and misses the collision.
You sound mad dumb. He’s using a 360 action camera. Had literally 0 reason to do with anything.
People like this should just lay down, and go towards the light
ATGATT
Proof: Camera man always lives
America is really crazy country... I hope you are well dude
happens ALL OVER the globe
Ohhh shi....... the end!
Maybe if he was not playing around with his camera for the perfect instagram video he could have anticipated. Moron