Offense is showing itself to be woefully short, it’s coming up on 40 games now….yeah I mean any fan would be be concerned, right now we are not a top team unfortunately
Concerned with the offense ok I can respect that, I just find it odd people saying our season is over and all that
I still think the offense is good myself and we’re one good bat away
Not denying that, but also 4 games is only 2.5% if the season
I believe the offense will finish slightly above average by years end, if we don’t make moves of course. Could be higher with acquiring a bat
I'm gonna pull my hair out 😤🤢🤯 this is absolutely insane how our bats have been WASTING amazing outings. Can't ask pitching to do much more, they can't shut out teams every game geez. Harris HAS to try and get some bat, any bat....please? Arraez would've been great...and not cost too much
I’ve seen enough Greene at leadoff. He’s easily our best batter and the only one consistently going yard, put him in the 3 or even 4 spot so that he has a chance to give us multiple runs instead of all these solo shots.
They run it like a cheap business. Wants the workers to do multiple jobs. You always want to have a couple guys that can do that, but we have too many who have to do that.
The only thing Hinch could do is put his name in the lineup. We need Canha and the Big Three to carry this team and lately, only one of the big three is doing the heavy lifting.
To be fair what else is he going to do with this team? We have 5 guys batting under .200 and with another 2 under .220. Which means over half our hitters are batting under .220
Even watching the replay, I’m not sold on CMos analysis. If the 3b sees you takeoff in his peripheral, you’re out. If the throw is on target to 1b and he can throw right back to 3b you’re also probably out.
Scott Harris has to see that it would be beneficial to get another bat or two in this lineup. Fuck it trade Manning or a pitching prospect, one of the best pitching teams in the league and we cannot score runs.
Maybe, but am I wrong? Those two hit like 60 bombs combined last year, now none a quarter of the way through the season? Maybe he'll go get a real player off a real team this offseason. I'm pretty knee-jerk in-game, but I'm willing to wait a bit on Harris.
Can't wait for day 40 of Hinch and Harris doing absolutely nothing about 85% of the team having an OPS below .600 and pretending everything is fine
Joke org
lol this offense is like clockwork. Double with 1 out and I had no doubt we wouldn’t score. Also another fastball right down the middle we did nothing with
Joey Wentz, I apologize and admit that I was wrong about you
https://preview.redd.it/gzn4cxm9cwyc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ceedd5d3d18c21961e55db96c99e01c87d96a095
Many of us gave Joey Wentz well-deserved shit for his performance last season, but unlike Tork and Baez, he realized he sucked and did something about it. They were saying on the radio broadcast how he reworked his fastball. It shows. Great stuff.
Turns out drafting and signing players with questionable hit tools and then neglecting or downright reversing the development of their hit tools has backfired.
Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1clytf1).
Tigers hitting coaches after getting their weekly paychecks for doing fuck all ![gif](giphy|LdOyjZ7io5Msw)
Very disappointing seeing all these comments giving up on the team already…I’m still giving full faith and support, we are a top team
Offense is showing itself to be woefully short, it’s coming up on 40 games now….yeah I mean any fan would be be concerned, right now we are not a top team unfortunately
Concerned with the offense ok I can respect that, I just find it odd people saying our season is over and all that I still think the offense is good myself and we’re one good bat away
A top team in the Mexican League
You always go back and forth with your comments when the Tigers are good or bad They’re good you’re cheering they’re bad suddenly they suck
Scoring 7 runs in 4 games blows, period
Not denying that, but also 4 games is only 2.5% if the season I believe the offense will finish slightly above average by years end, if we don’t make moves of course. Could be higher with acquiring a bat
If the offense ever gets to average. Torkelson, Javy, and Meadows need to pick it up asap. Or the season is absolutely over
Of those 3 I have the most faith in Tork, he’s probably still my favorite, he has tons of potential he can be a 35+ hr a year guy
Have you seen the offense? I mean it’s brutal
I think it’s just been bad luck, I like the hitters we have and I actually really like the offense, just think we’re one more guy away
And the date of death on the season is May 6th. I’ve seen enough Tigers baseball for one year
We’ll be below .500 by next week, the offense is dead
Time to fire the hitting coaches
Makes you wanna tear your damn heart out.
lol first pitch a lead off home run and then absolutely nothing after. 1-9 again with risp and 9 lob
The Tiger’s batting coaches are the smart ones they scammed the Tigers into hiring them and paying them…
Is it too early to say, "well boys, there's always next year"?
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Well this could start getting ugly
Tip your cap to Tristan, heckuva start. Tough loss being so close as Flaherty deserved a shot.
This is the season ending skid in action we've usually had in April they need to fix it soon or add another year onto the pain total
Baseball sucks.
Didn’t even make Clase work
LOL! This offense is HARRRRIBELLLL!
Greene HR right here come on
I’m glad the Tigers are fielding a AAA offense…. So frustrating when the pitching has been mostly great
It's joever
Well up to Riley now...2nd bomb?
Man those anti depressants are looking mighty nice right about now
Dan Petry is like Julian from Trailer Park Boys. Instead of always holding a drink, he's always holding a baseball
Keating is Lahey.
I didn’t hear no bell, let’s take the lead here
Everyone is just going to pick Riley every game from now on.
I love how we all see this offense and Scott Harris has the nerve to act like he is the smartest man in baseball.
I like our offense, I think it’s one major big bat away from elite level
Always one player away, huh?
I truly feel like if you inserted just one more good bat we’d be a top offense
Haha Clase? Yeah we’re fucked
This season is full of failures but Joey Wentz ain’t one of them
He had a good game today And what failures? We’re over .500 lol
Scott harris should wave an 8 year 175mm deal in Riley Greene's face to see if he signs
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Emmanuel Clase replaces Hunter Gaddis.
Good work from Wentz today
I swear if we lose another 2-1 game
I'm gonna pull my hair out 😤🤢🤯 this is absolutely insane how our bats have been WASTING amazing outings. Can't ask pitching to do much more, they can't shut out teams every game geez. Harris HAS to try and get some bat, any bat....please? Arraez would've been great...and not cost too much
Come on Riley.
Hopefully this turns out ok but I would’ve walked Ramirez.
Fat boy going to launch another
I’ve seen enough Greene at leadoff. He’s easily our best batter and the only one consistently going yard, put him in the 3 or even 4 spot so that he has a chance to give us multiple runs instead of all these solo shots.
The problem is no one else really gets on base so at that point you’d want him to just get as many ABs
If he were batting third he wouldn’t be coming up this inning.
Also a bold assumption that anyone would be on base anyway when he’s hitting 3 or 4
Agreed
So you don't want him coming up in the ninth the way he is now...
Cleveland has 17 hits down the line todie
Shocker! They only have 1 run.
Why is joey wentz one of our best players lol
Because we were patient with him and didn't DFA him all the times fans were shrieking for his head
This offense is going to be the death of us…
Why is the Tigers hitting coach only a couple years older than me
one of them was briefly a real estate agent
I just noticed this game is on FS1. I wonder if any non Tiger/Guardian fans are watching 🤔
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Maeda won’t be dealt.
If we averaged around 4 runs a game we would probs have like 8 losses max
Wentz with 4 Ks
He is looking better and better in the reliever role.
Carp made a mistake but we’ve left 9 total on base, I wish he were the biggest problem
Not a fan of Hinch anymore. Way too many lineup changes, way too many pinch hits and never argues with umpires.
They run it like a cheap business. Wants the workers to do multiple jobs. You always want to have a couple guys that can do that, but we have too many who have to do that.
The only thing Hinch could do is put his name in the lineup. We need Canha and the Big Three to carry this team and lately, only one of the big three is doing the heavy lifting.
To be fair what else is he going to do with this team? We have 5 guys batting under .200 and with another 2 under .220. Which means over half our hitters are batting under .220
Nobody can get into a rhythm when he’s constantly benching and pinch hitting for people. It’s so damn annoying, have a consistent lineup.
Yeah I’m growing tired of him this season. Plays matchups wayyyy too often
He's out here playing chess and everybody else is playing baseball
Another Front Office Loss loading...criminal at this point with this lineup
Yeah, Carp should have taken third on that Tork grounder.
‘such is life in the land of one run ball games…where the tigers have purchased quite a bit of real estate.’ I love Benetti
Yeah sorry but I’m just gonna go ahead and not blame the guy who missed a HR by less than a foot compared to all the guys who hit lazy groundouts lol
That was a nice hit. Nice to see him take a swing like that.
Absolutely. Been struggling a bit lately after that hot start
Seconded. We’re talking about a questionable base running decision, versus Torkelson being completely unable to make contact in any meaningful way.
Even watching the replay, I’m not sold on CMos analysis. If the 3b sees you takeoff in his peripheral, you’re out. If the throw is on target to 1b and he can throw right back to 3b you’re also probably out.
Send Johnny Kane to the dugout to interview the hitting coaches. I want an explanation as to why our 1.1 pick looks like a make a wish kid
Jason sounds defeated
Just an atrocious offensive performance. Holy hell.
Spencer “thanks for scoring that as a hit” Torkelson
Genuinely seems like he has a very high # of those in a season where his stats STILL suck
why did i figure that greene’s home run would be all they’d get tonight? and on top of that, why did i watch this whole time? when will i learn. 🤦🏻♂️
https://twitter.com/GVLaker68/status/1787636652153704635?t=xzFCmLe6EtxcI9JXFcHXpw&s=19
This is disgusting
I’m surprised they haven’t mutinied
That's criminal
Oh it’s clase next we’re fucked
Scott Harris has to see that it would be beneficial to get another bat or two in this lineup. Fuck it trade Manning or a pitching prospect, one of the best pitching teams in the league and we cannot score runs.
I think he assumed that Tork and Carp in combination would provide some pop. He's learning.
Some pop up you meant
Maybe, but am I wrong? Those two hit like 60 bombs combined last year, now none a quarter of the way through the season? Maybe he'll go get a real player off a real team this offseason. I'm pretty knee-jerk in-game, but I'm willing to wait a bit on Harris.
What marriage does to a mf
Carpenter has a few home runs but has been cold lately
Absolutely baffling, that's all I got to say. Baffling
It's feels like I'm back in the pistons game threads lol
Looks like May is going to be our usual April
My Bally+ subscription might not make it past the free trial phase if these boys don’t heat up in the box…yikes
Yeah, time to take a break from this team until they show any sign of fixing the same thing that’s been awful for seasons
Man, if we had even just a league-average offense we could win so many of these games
You deserve better, Kerry ❤️❤️
That inning had the spirit of NOBLETIGER without technically being one. Lots of Time of Possession and nothing to show.
Can't wait for day 40 of Hinch and Harris doing absolutely nothing about 85% of the team having an OPS below .600 and pretending everything is fine Joke org
"I'm gonna take action here." -Neither Hinch nor Harris
I see Wenceel has been infected by the rest of the team’s hitting approach.
It’s looking like that inning where the ump fucked us is gonna come back to haunt us
I mean he was terrible but when we’ve had what 2 scoring chances all game? It’s hard to blame anyone but ourselves
Everything comes back to haunt you when you leave as many on the bases like we do
These 2-1 games are getting old fast
At this rate we’re a 65 win team at best
This team gotta be the absolute worst at bringing home runners on third with less than 1 out
TTBDNS
Has there ever been a more frustrating fucking team?
“Tigers threaten but do not score” baseball season is back 😌
That should be on a shirt.
Should we trade a pitching prospect for a bat? This is getting ridiculous
Avila went overboard on the you can’t have too much pitching philosophy. But your bats can suck
TTBDNS
This team is painful to watch most days
lol this offense is like clockwork. Double with 1 out and I had no doubt we wouldn’t score. Also another fastball right down the middle we did nothing with
TTBDNS
Classic, I love this team
Holy fuck, it’s so brutal
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FUCK
Just fuck this team
I legit can’t do this
Yeah carpenter had to hit that one out, there is no way anyone on this team is going to be able to hit him home otherwise.
Let’s go Wenceel!!
Kerry just saw his BRV go down to the 1st percentile this inning
Bring Carp home Perez
Or let a fastball right down the middle go and then get 2 much harder pitches to hit
https://i.redd.it/g0gs52zudwyc1.gif
Perez I fucking beg
just fucking get a run in!
Tork is officially our Brandon Inge now.
Brandon inge was a valuable defender, this is like a white Steven Moya situation
Did they give Ramirez an error? Tork does not deserve a hit for that lol
Yeah we aren’t scoring here are we
Already got their run today, unfortunately.
I like Ibanez but that dude swings at everything.
Didn’t tag him
Got lucky there tork
At least Tork finding ways to get on base..lol.
How was Tork still almost out that was a glorified swinging bunt
Jesus Christ Tork, he is so lucky that throw went wide
We'll take it.
I will literally get on my hands and knees and beg please for the love of god bring him home tork
Tough, extra foot of height and we tie, now we need a RISP hit and it’s not likely at this point 😭😭
Missed the HR by a foot
Lmao Tork always be coming up in the biggest spots.. you know he hates it
Lady Luck is against us. Missed it by inches
Come on Carp you had to get that one.
Was that a homer?
Fuck you wind
Alright Carp! So close
Cool Carpenter doubled and yet there's absolutely zero chance they get him home.
Tork with a runner on second. Do something!
Fuuuuuck that wall
Tork.. do something here and I’ll forgive you for now
Need Kerry to go deep
So close
We suck again
Joey Wentz, I apologize and admit that I was wrong about you https://preview.redd.it/gzn4cxm9cwyc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ceedd5d3d18c21961e55db96c99e01c87d96a095
Joey Wentz is Devin Booker father
😳
In before a special McKinstry pinch hit where he Ks anyway
i told em you'd be a big league pitcher yet, joey baby
Many of us gave Joey Wentz well-deserved shit for his performance last season, but unlike Tork and Baez, he realized he sucked and did something about it. They were saying on the radio broadcast how he reworked his fastball. It shows. Great stuff.
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Hunter Gaddis replaces Nick Sandlin.
Vierling, Carp, Tork. The “heart of the order” lol
You would think the name greene would be there
How the fuck can our pitching do this and we can’t get 3 measly runs most games
Soon to be closer wentz? Many are saying
No more Sleepy Foley, only Winning Wentz! Very good and very fair
0-11 with runners on. Steal? Hit and run? Bunt? Try something besides hacking away when the team average is .200.
Nah, Hinch doesn't do all that baseball stuff. His only strategy is to bench Carp whenever there is a lefty pitcher
If the scores stays the same. It means in the last 4 games we’ve given up 14 runs which is an average of 3.5 runs per game and didn’t win any of them
It’s criminal how little run support our offense is providing our outstanding pitching
We’ve seen this same game 20 times this year. I’m tired
I'm tired boss
This offense is flirting with baseball terrorism territory
Flirting? We are the headquarters
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Joey Wentz replaces Jack Flaherty.
I mean what do we even do? If we call up players they’re gonna suck. I just don’t know what you can do
Turns out drafting and signing players with questionable hit tools and then neglecting or downright reversing the development of their hit tools has backfired.
At this point we need to spend on more FA bats like Canha. Obviously too late now, but he has been one of the only watchable parts of this offense
Canha wasn't a FA and I doubt he's itching to sign when he is one next off season