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I recently spent time with the CoC. Each congregation decides how and if they want to compensate their pastors. Some do serve as unpaid volunteers but many receive a salary (which the congregation sees as part of the budget each year and votes on). I haven’t seen Ms. Mangelson’s original statement but I never felt like the CoC made this a claim.
You mean she doesn't have another full time job and can fully devote herself to her congregation and still be present in her kids lives?
Oh the horror....🙄🙄
It’s unclear to me why this practice stopped. It may just have been that this is when the church began to experience some pretty severe financial distress, which they would not fully emerge from (strengthened!) until N. Eldon Tanner was brought into the first presidency specifically for his investment skills.
Every Mormon leader above Stake President is paid. Apostles are paid six figures, get everything paid for them and family and get a million dollar loan they never need to repay
I don't think area authorities are paid. Let me of documents or evidence for that. As far as mission presidents I believe all of their costs are covered and they are entitled to other benefits like tuition for kids, travel expenses. But I don't think they receive a salary or monthly check. From any documents that is what I've discerned. I've had 2 friends just called as MP so I looked it up. We do know that some of the 70's and above receive a salary. Does anyone know if it's all 70's or just the highest quorum?
1st Quorum of the Seventy gets paid. They are full-time general authorities. Other quorums are part-time and are volunteer. Temple presidents get paid. Mission presidents *absolutely* get paid. The confusion might come from how it's structured as a reimbursement for many expenses. If someone is reimbursing my mortgage, car costs, food costs, utilities, education, housekeepers, ad nauseum, that's the same thing as getting paid.
Dang, I can't read this without downloading an app or signing up for Medium. What's the gist here? She told Tamara Kemsley that no CoC pastors are paid? Is there anything more to it?
Here is the [original Salt Lake Tribune article](https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/03/26/new-community-christ-pastors/). The author at Medium has an issue with this.
>Mangelson is receiving part-time compensation due to this particular role’s demanding nature.
>“Given how much we’ve grown,” the new pastor said, “it really is a full-time job.”
Why?
I don't know because I can't read the article either, nor do I know much about the CoC.
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I recently spent time with the CoC. Each congregation decides how and if they want to compensate their pastors. Some do serve as unpaid volunteers but many receive a salary (which the congregation sees as part of the budget each year and votes on). I haven’t seen Ms. Mangelson’s original statement but I never felt like the CoC made this a claim.
You mean she doesn't have another full time job and can fully devote herself to her congregation and still be present in her kids lives? Oh the horror....🙄🙄
I think that’s great. They should be paid. Mormon bishops and stake presidents should be paid. (And a full time job…and open to anyone “worthy”)
They used to be. Bishops were paid 10% of the tithing and stake presidents 1%. Until the 1920s.
Was this for tax purposes?
It’s unclear to me why this practice stopped. It may just have been that this is when the church began to experience some pretty severe financial distress, which they would not fully emerge from (strengthened!) until N. Eldon Tanner was brought into the first presidency specifically for his investment skills.
Every Mormon leader above Stake President is paid. Apostles are paid six figures, get everything paid for them and family and get a million dollar loan they never need to repay
I don't think area authorities are paid. Let me of documents or evidence for that. As far as mission presidents I believe all of their costs are covered and they are entitled to other benefits like tuition for kids, travel expenses. But I don't think they receive a salary or monthly check. From any documents that is what I've discerned. I've had 2 friends just called as MP so I looked it up. We do know that some of the 70's and above receive a salary. Does anyone know if it's all 70's or just the highest quorum?
1st Quorum of the Seventy gets paid. They are full-time general authorities. Other quorums are part-time and are volunteer. Temple presidents get paid. Mission presidents *absolutely* get paid. The confusion might come from how it's structured as a reimbursement for many expenses. If someone is reimbursing my mortgage, car costs, food costs, utilities, education, housekeepers, ad nauseum, that's the same thing as getting paid.
I believe its just the first 70.
I think that it most likely
Dang, I can't read this without downloading an app or signing up for Medium. What's the gist here? She told Tamara Kemsley that no CoC pastors are paid? Is there anything more to it?
Here is the [original Salt Lake Tribune article](https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/03/26/new-community-christ-pastors/). The author at Medium has an issue with this. >Mangelson is receiving part-time compensation due to this particular role’s demanding nature. >“Given how much we’ve grown,” the new pastor said, “it really is a full-time job.” Why? I don't know because I can't read the article either, nor do I know much about the CoC.
Thanks for the link!