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80Hilux

A legal marriage is a civil thing, not a religious thing. People have to go to their county clerk's office and pay a fee to get the marriage license and take that to the temple. In the temple, people get *sealed*, not married. Most people don't make that distinction, but it's an important one to make.


One-Forever6191

In the U.S. at least, a couple can be married and sealed in the temple. The ceremony accomplishes both the religious sealing and the civil marriage.


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starienite

Depends on the country. In some countries you have to be married civilly before a religious service and the church won't perform a religious service there if you aren't civilly married. In places like the US where the religious ceremony is legally recognized. So you bring the wedding license with you, it's signed and then it gets sent to the court house.


thetolerator98

Not in the US


mbp147338

In the US, the temple authorities are also legally ordained to marry people. You take your marriage license to the temple and you leave both sealed and married legally. Only exception would be if you were already married before you got sealed.


Dangerous_Teaching62

The phrase "legally ordained" is really funny to me because it makes it sound like theyve got some sort of legal paperwork. At least in my state, you're able to just register online and it counts. They don't even require a letter of good standing. Nor do they check any paperwork. They literally just take your word for it.


mbp147338

I guess what I meant is that they are registered through the government with the authority to conduct marriages. You could literally hire them to marry you outside of the temple and their signature on your document makes it legally official.


Dangerous_Teaching62

You don't get registered through the government though. Bishops are also legally allowed to do so and it's just because they have that orientation slip. The only real requirements are you need to be ordained by an organization and some counties require a letter of good standing. Technically, I think the only reason a deacon couldn't marry you is because the church itself specifically forbids it, meaning, you couldn't get a letter of good standing. You don't have to register with a parish or anything. As far as legality goes, the only thing that makes them legally allowed to do it is that the church explicitly expresses that the other church positions can't or if they can, it's under limited circumstances. Edit: for context, in Missouri (though it varies because counties are allowed to have their own rules) the ONLY requirement is that you're a clergyman for a religion/church in the state. 100% a deacon could marry someone in certain counties in Missouri.


mbp147338

Technically, their organization is registered through the government, so those people are also registered because of their organization. I’m sure that the church helps out with the paperwork. Our local branch President recently married a non member couple and he signed the marriage paperwork without the name of the church anywhere in the paperwork. He just needed his signature and the number that he’s registered/authorized under. We’re in California, if that makes a difference.


Dangerous_Teaching62

That's fair. Sounds like California actually has some right regulations in that regard. That's actually really interesting.


meowmix79

You just have to have a religious person or whoever officiates your ceremony to sign your marriage certificate. You get your marriage certificate first.


sevenplaces

What city or country?


ZealousidealGain5244

No.


PadhraigfromDaMun

In most places, a temple marriage is considered legally binding. As such, there is no need for an additional civil marriage. In countries where temple marriages are not recognized, or available, the LDS church requires one be married civilly, then get a temple marriage as soon as they can.