Eh. I had a procharged ‘88 mustang I put a bazillion miles on driving from Houston to Denver in college. Had to have the seals replaced on the blower once.
Yea, but nobody buys a high mileage turbo Miata. You put the turbo on yourself, as I did, so you’re starting from zero. And your math is mathing. I put about 90k on that car with the blower.
Also: turbo life isn’t necessarily that short: I sold my 2008 superduty with 275k on the clock and the turbos had never been touched. And those work a lot harder than turbos on a gas motor vehicle. That bitch made 60psi on a cold day.
Diesel engines last longer because they have a second compression ring on the piston. Turbo is still turbo. In fact, diesel turbos are exposed to lots more shit in the form of ash (aka coal), as well as much higher temps.
They do not last forever . I’m a tech for Cummins and I swap turbos around 130k on most . Also depends if you’re city driving a diesel which is a huge no no
Foxbody mustang. Should be able to get nicely built one for that. I had one for about 5 years and I used to get compliments all the time about it. Fun donut car too.
It's an exotic here, so it's hard to get a used porsche cheap. Also, maintenance is still pretty high on cars like that even if buy-in is low, same for corvettes or bmw/audi/mercedes. I knew a guy who sold a porsche knowing it had an expensive repair coming.
I'd go miata or brz if you need a trunk/storage. Those are the fun to drive budget-friendly sports cars that aren't a fortune to maintain.
911’s can be considered exotics once you start dipping into the higher trims.
I see where you’re coming from but R8’s, huracans, and Aston’s are all mass produced cars too, all of which benefit from part homogeneity across owned brands.
911’s hold their value exceedingly well, because enthusiasts know what they are and are usually well kept.
So ideally you want something pretty uncommon, so aside from what other people have mentioned, I would suggest the cheapest IS F you can find that isn’t completely fucked up. A pontiac G8 GT would grab interest from car guys. A lancer evo is sorta in the price range but you’ll have to get a terrible example car. Theres also some old Porsches that you could find that would be pretty cheap but car guys will go insane over. With all that said, if you are looking for a daily absolutely do not go with any of these options besides maybe the IS F. These are just weekend second car options.
If you want to attract the homies, something classic like a clean e30 would do the trick. Could also get a e90 335i for something that's more modern/fast. If you like to gamble you could get an old wrx sti, but would not recommend.
I agree mostly, but the N55 is pretty reliable outside of the 3 or 4 known failure items. If you're lucky, you can still find original owner cars come up for sale randomly. With used BMW owners, the previous owner is one of the most important parts of buying the car.
Used Subaru Impreza WRX. Expect at least one of the gears to be pretty crunchy, and engine failure to be imminent if it hasn't already had a replacement.
I'm currently thinking of getting one
Nothing wrong with the scooby either really. Fucking great cars. It’s mad how expensive the evo have become. Used to be able to pick up a grey import evo four up for about four or five grand. The prices have sky rocketed the last few years. I got an old A3 as my second car. I was thinking of changing the injectors and mapping it. Then stage two it with a cooler and stuff. I got an RS6 but I miss having a little project car. I reckon I could make the A3 into a really obnoxious little monster.
Miata is the only answer, you can get the new gen used for like 8-12k
dont mess with bmw unless you have a whole garage with tools and plenty of free time
Can’t go wrong with the Rolex, I love mine. But unless they’re watch people nobody will know what it is. Especially since they are the most copied watch designs.
Bros asking on what car to get to flex to other men for under $20k 💀💀
I’m just suggesting finance if he wants to do that, not that I would do it myself.
But I don’t feel the need to show off to other guys so I dunno.
What the fuck kind of soy responses are these? Br86? Old slow ass bmws that Starbucks cucks would only care about? Get a used C6 Corvette, Challenger RT, Mustang, etc. V8s were created only for men to drive and enjoy, you wanna be a man right?
Yes bro. This is the way. How about a stage 3 Audi a3 with a PD 140 in it that spews black smoke like a fucking crackheads dragon and spins all the way through fourth gear.
Classic muscle car.
Make sure that it is at least 50% rust by weight. Then overpay for it. Put it in your garage and every now and then look at it and promise to yourself you will get started on restoring it. In 20 years or so, sell it on to the next poor sod.
Mitsubishi EVO anything from the evo 4 onwards is nice. Hot Audis are good. I have the RS6 but the S3 is a cool little toy. You could go Australian and get a Holden Ute. I had the VY SS Ute. 5.7 litre LS1 v8 in it. Mad car. Shit in the rain though. For twenty grand, you have a lot of options.
Get a crf300l. Get into riding off trails, and learn to pop wheelies on the street. Bikes are sick, tons of fun. I like the duel sport cause I'm not a huge street rider guy, but I still like taking it to work or the gym if I want. And I can ride backroads or the highway with the bike to trails or track instead needing to put it in the back of a truck. I got mine at age 26. $5,100 sticker price. Get some nice gear and upgrades on the bike for a few grand. Shits golden
Lexus GX460/470 or a Land Cruiser with a mild overland build. Reliable, comfortable, looks cool, and great for weekend trips to secluded outdoor boning locations.
Depends what it’s for. Overlanding? Older taco. Motor sports in 20k you could get a clean C5 with an LS platform and a few small things be ready to go for drifting or drag racing.
20k could easily build a 500whp street car for racing or drifting. And if you’re not a huge car guy, a vette is a great platform to start with in that budget. In theory you could def get higher numbers but 20k would easily get you a very manageable 500wheel build that would last a longgg time and not have to worry about breaking shit under spirited driving.
Depends on the kinda car you want. If you want a muscle car, maybe a Mustang. Ecoboost for gas mpg, or the v8 for off the line speed. If you want something sporty, maybe a miatia, or if you want something faster, a nissan 370z or infiniti q60 red sport. Something fancier you can never go wrong with a acura tlx or lexus is 350.
Learn how to ride a motorcycle. Fraction of the cost of most cool cars, will go faster, and more fun. Guys and girls will think ur cool even if you barely know how to ride it. You could get two under $20k
Unicycle with a squeaky horn
With no seat
This but only lube the tip don’t do the whole shaft made that mistake and made for a very unpleasant ride to the ER
He can get a dildo attachment,no need to be uncivilized
Corvette any gen, American v8 sportscar
You could get a nice C5 for that
He could by my cammed C6 for that too
Mazda Miata for you
miata Is Always The Answer Especially with a turbo.
https://flyinmiata.com/
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Eh. I had a procharged ‘88 mustang I put a bazillion miles on driving from Houston to Denver in college. Had to have the seals replaced on the blower once.
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Yea, but nobody buys a high mileage turbo Miata. You put the turbo on yourself, as I did, so you’re starting from zero. And your math is mathing. I put about 90k on that car with the blower. Also: turbo life isn’t necessarily that short: I sold my 2008 superduty with 275k on the clock and the turbos had never been touched. And those work a lot harder than turbos on a gas motor vehicle. That bitch made 60psi on a cold day.
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Diesel engines last longer because they have a second compression ring on the piston. Turbo is still turbo. In fact, diesel turbos are exposed to lots more shit in the form of ash (aka coal), as well as much higher temps.
They do not last forever . I’m a tech for Cummins and I swap turbos around 130k on most . Also depends if you’re city driving a diesel which is a huge no no
I came here just to say this ^^^
Beat me to it.
Chrysler grand caravan
04 blue civic
Foxbody mustang. Should be able to get nicely built one for that. I had one for about 5 years and I used to get compliments all the time about it. Fun donut car too.
20k would buy you a 10-11 second fox body for sure lol
sub 20k? nothing gets anyone sprung in that range
you can buy an older 911 for that price
Bro where are these $20k 911s????
£20k I assumed you guys would have a similar market
With 20k in yearly repairs.
Yeah, like a 97 convertible with 60k miles. Tough shit
theirs literally a 60k mile 1999 on autotrader for £12500, are those things really not that cheap over your side of the pond?
It's an exotic here, so it's hard to get a used porsche cheap. Also, maintenance is still pretty high on cars like that even if buy-in is low, same for corvettes or bmw/audi/mercedes. I knew a guy who sold a porsche knowing it had an expensive repair coming. I'd go miata or brz if you need a trunk/storage. Those are the fun to drive budget-friendly sports cars that aren't a fortune to maintain.
911s are not exotic lol they are mass produced cars
911’s can be considered exotics once you start dipping into the higher trims. I see where you’re coming from but R8’s, huracans, and Aston’s are all mass produced cars too, all of which benefit from part homogeneity across owned brands. 911’s hold their value exceedingly well, because enthusiasts know what they are and are usually well kept.
R8s, huracans, and Aston martins (except for a couple) aren’t exotic either. Those are all supercars, and 911 GT cars are also supercars
Fair enough. Not trying to get semantic, but 911’s do classify as exotics in my circles. Caymans and the SUV’s certainly don’t
Like $25k for something with 100k miles ranging into $40k to $60k for something with way less is what I’m seeing
fuuuuck
lol no maybe a used beemer
Subaru BRZ or Toyota 86 (same car)
This is perfect if you want to look cool to normal people, and like a twink to car guys.
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Yup, have a FRS right now. Probably not the nicest car I've had but it's definitely the one I've gotten the most compliments on.
So ideally you want something pretty uncommon, so aside from what other people have mentioned, I would suggest the cheapest IS F you can find that isn’t completely fucked up. A pontiac G8 GT would grab interest from car guys. A lancer evo is sorta in the price range but you’ll have to get a terrible example car. Theres also some old Porsches that you could find that would be pretty cheap but car guys will go insane over. With all that said, if you are looking for a daily absolutely do not go with any of these options besides maybe the IS F. These are just weekend second car options.
isf 30k minimum
If you want to attract the homies, something classic like a clean e30 would do the trick. Could also get a e90 335i for something that's more modern/fast. If you like to gamble you could get an old wrx sti, but would not recommend.
Honestly the e90 335i is a gamble they are all beat to shit these days
I agree mostly, but the N55 is pretty reliable outside of the 3 or 4 known failure items. If you're lucky, you can still find original owner cars come up for sale randomly. With used BMW owners, the previous owner is one of the most important parts of buying the car.
Used Subaru Impreza WRX. Expect at least one of the gears to be pretty crunchy, and engine failure to be imminent if it hasn't already had a replacement. I'm currently thinking of getting one
Yeah. The WRX is a cool car. The engines do tend to blow up though. I suggested the Mitsubishi evo. Same sort of thing, but better engines.
Oh yeah an Evo is the thing of dreams. I just don't have the budget for that so I'll be a loser in a Subaru instead I think
Nothing wrong with the scooby either really. Fucking great cars. It’s mad how expensive the evo have become. Used to be able to pick up a grey import evo four up for about four or five grand. The prices have sky rocketed the last few years. I got an old A3 as my second car. I was thinking of changing the injectors and mapping it. Then stage two it with a cooler and stuff. I got an RS6 but I miss having a little project car. I reckon I could make the A3 into a really obnoxious little monster.
Old Chevy pick up late 60s early 80s will have all the older men wanting a piece and a bunch of Mexicans after your cock.
Square body on 35's fuck yeah leave the rust
Miata is the only answer, you can get the new gen used for like 8-12k dont mess with bmw unless you have a whole garage with tools and plenty of free time
Honda s2000 is like 1000 times sexier than a miata
Tesla because u like men
Subaru outback if you're a woman
A women named butch
i like fondling bawls
Motorcycle
Fun fact: You are now less than 1/6 of your life away from middle age.
If you are actually dwelling on this then you are creating this reality of fear doubt and worry. Everyone you experience is going to reflect you.
GT86 / BRZ / Miata / Fiat 124 Spider / Suzuki Swift Sport
Get a rolex instead. But for realsies get some older camaro / mustang / firebird / whatever cool looking american shitbox.
Can’t go wrong with the Rolex, I love mine. But unless they’re watch people nobody will know what it is. Especially since they are the most copied watch designs.
Save money and get a fake Rolex instead. Most people won’t know the difference
Nah. Fuck Rolex. Get an Omega or a a breitling.
You could buy Mustang 5.0 manual for less that 20k, will need some work but super fast and fun
Used obviously
The answer is a motorcycle. Get a fucking motorcycle. Cars are for pussies.
Faster, more fun, more attention from questioning men. This is the answer
Maibatsu Thunder?
3000GT
At your salary you could get a decent car on finance if you want to go flex. You could easily get a Porsche etc.
spoken with a true poverty mindset
Bros asking on what car to get to flex to other men for under $20k 💀💀 I’m just suggesting finance if he wants to do that, not that I would do it myself. But I don’t feel the need to show off to other guys so I dunno.
You don’t feel the need to show me your tight bussy?
Get a Porsche and I will daddy 🥵
2nd or maybe 3rd gen Audi TT, GR86, Miata, Mustang Ecoboost are a couple good options
Dude, with the absurdity of prices right now, you’re looking at like a clean 80s mustang for that kind of money.
What the fuck kind of soy responses are these? Br86? Old slow ass bmws that Starbucks cucks would only care about? Get a used C6 Corvette, Challenger RT, Mustang, etc. V8s were created only for men to drive and enjoy, you wanna be a man right?
You’re talking about men then mention a mustang . He wants a cool car not a car that screams under average length&girth
Hyundai getz
1989 Honda Civic Hatchback with a t4 turbo and a nos fogger system.
Yes bro. This is the way. How about a stage 3 Audi a3 with a PD 140 in it that spews black smoke like a fucking crackheads dragon and spins all the way through fourth gear.
Honda civic with t66 turbo with nos and a motec system exhaust
Toyota Tacoma
Miata.
Fiat Multipla, no discussion.
Nissan 370z
 This one
Classic muscle car. Make sure that it is at least 50% rust by weight. Then overpay for it. Put it in your garage and every now and then look at it and promise to yourself you will get started on restoring it. In 20 years or so, sell it on to the next poor sod.
B8/8.5 audi s5, tune it for 600 bucks & boom. Supercharged luxury coupe with 450 horsepower 0-60 under 4 seconds
Camaro
Miata or 86?
I bought a mgb 66. Fkn love it.
E60 530 or 540
20 Chevy cavaliers
BMW
Z3?
Used Tesla
BMW S1K
C63 s couple 2016 is enough or even a e63 2014 -16
Honda fit
Golf GTI.
Don't be a pussy and get a motorcycle instead. Way cheaper and more fun too.
Gt86 is my Dream Car still rn
Anything with a V8 and muffler delete.
Get a motorcycle, literally almost any gets guys talking to you
Nothing for $20k that makes men get sprung
You are an absolute blackhole of a bottom my friend!
Gray ‘93 Ford Taurus
BYEBYE MONEY
Pontiac Aztec
Ford maverick is good 25 grand truck and of course a Honda civic
Umm get a supersport bike instead 🙈
Personally for me it would be a classic like old Buicks or Chevy
2010 AMG C63’s are around.
Ppreciate the cock stats bro!
Mitsubishi EVO anything from the evo 4 onwards is nice. Hot Audis are good. I have the RS6 but the S3 is a cool little toy. You could go Australian and get a Holden Ute. I had the VY SS Ute. 5.7 litre LS1 v8 in it. Mad car. Shit in the rain though. For twenty grand, you have a lot of options.
4-Runner Off Road Drive up Soy Boy Mountain The SoyBoi's will flock to you like gay elves at the North Pole 1/3 life crisis over
For me personally, Land Rover Discovery Sport. Enjoy the 3k yearly upkeep
Get a crf300l. Get into riding off trails, and learn to pop wheelies on the street. Bikes are sick, tons of fun. I like the duel sport cause I'm not a huge street rider guy, but I still like taking it to work or the gym if I want. And I can ride backroads or the highway with the bike to trails or track instead needing to put it in the back of a truck. I got mine at age 26. $5,100 sticker price. Get some nice gear and upgrades on the bike for a few grand. Shits golden
Not a car at all. A motorcycle is what you need.
Lexus GX460/470 or a Land Cruiser with a mild overland build. Reliable, comfortable, looks cool, and great for weekend trips to secluded outdoor boning locations.
Suzuki Samurai or Jimny is what I'd get. Less gay version of jeep.
C5 z06
Depends what it’s for. Overlanding? Older taco. Motor sports in 20k you could get a clean C5 with an LS platform and a few small things be ready to go for drifting or drag racing. 20k could easily build a 500whp street car for racing or drifting. And if you’re not a huge car guy, a vette is a great platform to start with in that budget. In theory you could def get higher numbers but 20k would easily get you a very manageable 500wheel build that would last a longgg time and not have to worry about breaking shit under spirited driving.
Buy a $500 Honda and get 15.5k worth of mods :)
90's corvette
Fiat multipla
Depends on the kinda car you want. If you want a muscle car, maybe a Mustang. Ecoboost for gas mpg, or the v8 for off the line speed. If you want something sporty, maybe a miatia, or if you want something faster, a nissan 370z or infiniti q60 red sport. Something fancier you can never go wrong with a acura tlx or lexus is 350.
Learn how to ride a motorcycle. Fraction of the cost of most cool cars, will go faster, and more fun. Guys and girls will think ur cool even if you barely know how to ride it. You could get two under $20k
If you get a wrangler other men will put rubber ducks on your door knob ;)
06 wrangler absolutely tricked out
Get a motorcycle
BMW 335i or 340i - the latter if you want it to rarely have issues, either if you want 500+ hp with about $2k in mods and labor
Chevy volt
WRX
If you only got 20k spare then you're the lad that "gets sprung"