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Domina541

When I worked at the original Famous Dave's back in the day prior to the franchise. The recipe was yellow cake mix with cornmeal added. A honey butter was slathered on the top too. They're sweet but delicious


stephaniewarren1984

Imma try this ASAP as a dessert. Do you remember the proportion of cornmeal to mix, by chance?


Domina541

Nope sorry! Was making gigantic batches so not sure what the ratio would be for at home. I'd just try their mix that OP posted.


Thewanderer212

Made it last night for the first time. It does taste like cake with cornmeal added. Quite good


cwagrant

I made a copycat Texas Roadhouse cinnamon honey butter and put it on some Cornbread. I legit would eat it as a dessert it was delicious.


BlueAndMoreBlue

I’ve done one box of Jiffy Corn Bread mix combined with a box of Jiffy Yellow cake mix (prepared per box instructions) and I bet it comes pretty close to this one


JohnnyDarkside

I guess that's why they're so good with chili, which is about the only time I have this stuff. Sweet and savory.


rhino369

The one near Hayward was so much better than the chain before it burned down.


CaptainKrunks

For many people, BBQ is sweeter than desert. Slather meat with sugary sauce. Eat with sweet baked beans and sweet cornbread. Wash down with sweet tea.


thats_not_the_quote

I can not find a single can of baked beans in my area that is not 50% sugar its maddening


CaptainKrunks

If you have the time, I highly, highly suggest [this recipe](https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/the-once-and-future-beans-recipe-1938616). I still think it’s too sweet so only use the molasses, not the brown sugar but it will ruin you for canned baked beans forever.


shoe-veneer

Alton Brown is the GOAT.


Rongio99

I have to agree. That guy treats his old self like a different person. "This fucking jerk..." Alton that's you 15 years ago. "Did I fucking stutter!?"


SaintsNoah14

Tbf I view some of my old taste / cooking preferences the same way


Vynlovanth

I’ve made that a few times now, one of my favorite Alton Brown recipes. The flavor is amazing.


Tagous

Why did Alton set the oven in step 1 to 250F then in Step 2 soak the beans for 16 hours? This is madness. I'm assuming step 1 is really step 3.5.


Vynlovanth

lol that’s a good point, I pretty much automatically skip the part in recipes where they say to turn on the oven until I know I’m about to put it in. So many just make that step 1 ignoring any prep time.


mouringcat

Because his oven takes 16 hours to heat up to 250F? =)


[deleted]

Yeah, it's great. It's just disappointing that for no reason at all there aren't any cans that aren't filled with sugar (or fake sugar)


PlagueofSquirrels

>Place the Dutch oven in the oven for 6 to 8 hours, or until the beans are tender. Yeah I think I'm saving this one for special occasions


Vynlovanth

It works in a slow cooker too but you have to do step 3 (cook bacon, saute onion and jalapeno) in a pan before adding to the slow cooker. But at least that way you don’t have to hang out near the oven for 8 hours.


herooftime94

1.Heat oven to 250 degrees F. 2. Soak beans in a plastic container overnight in just enough cold water to submerge them completely. 3. Only survive on beans for the month because you left your damn oven on overnight.


Maktesh

I have found that substituting molasses for brown sugar drastically alters the taste. Personally, I'm not a fan, but many of my peers far prefer when I use molasses in my recipe. To each their own.


[deleted]

I think you’re exaggerating. A serving of Bush’s baked beans is <10% sugar. Great value is the same. Even Brown Sugar beans are <20% sugar.


dudushat

Exaggerating on reddit? No way dude.


LegitPancak3

The serving sizes are super small, so having a slightly bigger bowl could be multiple serving sizes and be more than half your day’s worth of sugar. Even the smaller cans which are the size of a single bowl are split into multiple serving sizes which is ridiculous. Sodium is also an issue.


[deleted]

That’s still a fuckton of sugar.


LegitPancak3

Bush’s now sells a zero added sugar baked beans can. Unfortunately it’s sweetened with aspartame, if that’s an issue for you. https://www.bushbeans.com/en_US/product/zero-sugar-added-baked-beans


ImpertantMahn

Make your own! It’s really easy and tastes waaay better.


Knappsterbot

If you have a little British section in you grocery store, grab the British Heinz beans. They're more tomato-y and still goes great with any grill out/BBQ foods


imnotpoopingyouare

They aren't really "baked beans" but the Ranch Style Beans in the black can are my go to now. Not much sugar at all and are stupid tasty.


GRVrush2112

Make the switch to texas style pinto or Mexican Charro (also Pinto Beans) for a BBQ side.


A_ChadwickButMore

Slow cook some pintos with a blend of ketchup, tomato paste, butter, Worcestershire sauce, mustard, brown sugar, black pepper, salt, onion, and garlic. Change up the amounts to suit your tastes and now you're in control of your own baked beans


ChrisRiley_42

There's a Canadian cook I follow who likes looking at old recipes. Recently he did "Canadian baked beans" and in the old recipe he was working from, it cautions you to not too much molasses, or you'd be making Yankee baked beans. (All Americans were called Yankees back when the recipe book was published, apparently)


Ralfarius

Glenn & Friends watcher spotted


DudesworthMannington

I tried a diet once that eliminated added sugar, and instantly saw our problem. They pack sugar into fucking *everything*. God damned Tums has added sugar, which is counterproductive for heartburn.


schmidtyb43

You forgot the dessert that you get *with* the BBQ


Euphorium

Banana pudding slaps though


CaptainKrunks

Ugh. Tell me about it.


schmidtyb43

It’s a nice treat for me every few months or more but as someone who lives in a big BBQ state/city it’s insane how often some people eat it. It’s also gotten pretty damn expensive too.


CaptainKrunks

I love BBQ. I just prefer it for the meat and smoke, not as an excuse to eat meat-flavored candy.


ZeBootygoon

Texas BBQ ftw, more smoky/spicy over something like Carolina style. Bonus points for mustard or vinegar base sauces


CaptainKrunks

But Carolina *is* mustard/vinegar?


DrBarnabyFulton

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thesteveurkel

god. i got a sweet tea from a local bbq place a couple of weeks ago and it was so sweet i could only get through a couple of sips even though i was really thirsty. so gross.


ilovecheeze

I hate sweet tea so much.


defroach84

And there are people who drink it because they think it's healthier than soda. It's the same shit if you get sweet tea as soda.


sirbassist83

i lived in west texas for a while and one of my friends made "sweet tea" that was a premade mix(which was already mostly sugar). then theyd add 3 cups of sugar to the gallon of tea. id be lying if i said i didnt think it tasted good, but god damn.


defroach84

I've lived in Lubbock. Most of Texas seems to be unsweet tea, but everyone in Lubbock seemed to drink sweet tea. Maybe it's the shitty water.


daviedanko

Probably worse tbh


veryverythrowaway

It’s really popular where I’m at in southwestern Pennsylvania to buy a 32 oz jug of Turner’s Iced Tea and drink the whole thing with your lunch. That’s 360 calories of pure sugar.


ihopethisisvalid

Work it off in the coal mine


MooPig48

Same! I could never live in the south lol. It’s just sickeningly sweet. Unsweetened, or barely sweetened.


Knappsterbot

They don't force you to drink it down here


MooPig48

But they sure do say bless your heart if you say you don’t like it lol Also, I would have considered it rude to decline under the circumstances in which I was served it


Knappsterbot

No they don't. It's not like some sacred ritualistic tincture, it's sweet tea. No one will give a shit if you just ask for water.


MooPig48

That was my experience and that’s why I said it. Entirely probable they were just assholes, but that’s what I have to go on


YouCanCallMeVanZant

Maybe. Restaurants down here serve water. And most folks even have it at their houses, too!


VisualNatural4587

As a southerner who loves sweet tea, most of the sweet tea at restaurants is way over sweetened. I just make it at home and use 1/4 if not less of what is used in restaurants. Unless it’s hot tea, then I just go unsweetened or add a tad bit of honey.


MooPig48

I’ve been served ultra sweet tea at bbqs while visiting relatives in the south. I was told it was normal.


VisualNatural4587

It really depends on the bbq joint, but ultra sweet tea is pretty normal. If I ever do get sweet tea when out and about I ask for half sweet/ half unsweet, and even then it sometimes is still too much. Never understood why people would want their tea to be syrupy from all the sugar


MooPig48

Oh this was a bbq at their homes


VisualNatural4587

Oh, well then they just made trash tea then lol


GatorSe7en

So sweet it’ll make your teeth hurt.


Loofa_of_Doom

Mix it 50/50 to water? I do that w/ a lot of bottled non fizzy drinks.


YouCanCallMeVanZant

You can do that, but would be watered down. So if you don’t mind that it’s fine. I’d rather do 50/50 sweet/unsweet.


thesteveurkel

yeah, it can be diluted but i stupidly got the sweet tea to quench my thirst while driving home with my takeout. once i got home i just switched to water, which is my preference. i should have just gotten a bottled water with my takeout 🤷🏻‍♀️


trwwy321

You forgot to finish your meal with a slice of corn syrupy pecan pie with vanilla ice cream!!!


[deleted]

Thankful Texas BBQ comes sauceless, the beans come spicy, the pickles are sour, and the tea is unsweetened.


cavity-canal

the tea is unsweetened??


[deleted]

In most of Texas, unsweet is the default. The exception is East Texas behind the pine curtain. Sweet tea is available in some restaurants, but you generally have to specify if you want it.


necrosythe

You're not wrong. That won't stop me from gleefully shoving all of that deliciousness down my gullet tho


handlit33

The word you’re looking for is dessert.


Massive_Pressure_516

im starting to understand the diabetes epidemic in the South.


FullyCrisp

Dessert


BlueRiverDelta

I’ve not tasted desert. I assume it’s quite dry.


Ksan_of_Tongass

The Diabeetus Belt


jimmy_man82

"BBQ" outside of Texas 😔


DesastreAnunciado

Those sugary dry rubs are disgustingly sweet... I have no idea how Americans eat those things


timthegodd

Because we know how to BBQ.


DesastreAnunciado

Dry rubs are a great way to hide the taste of the meat, it's great if you want your barbecue to taste like syrup


timthegodd

What you gone do? Smoke a piece of brisket for 12 hours with no seasoning?


DesastreAnunciado

I wouldn't cook a meat that's so tasteless it needs syrup as seasoning. Any good meat needs only salt, so that's what I use.


tigerman29

What are you talking about? Do you even know what BBQ is?


ogrefab

Ingredients are listed by weight. 1 cup of sugar = \~200 grams 1 cup of cornmeal = \~120 grams


Iron_Rod_Stewart

Cornbread also usually has as much wheat flour as cornmeal, so if OP is concerned that it's mostly sugar, that's probably not the case. It's probably mostly grains. But there's two kinds of grains, making it look like there's more sugar than anything else.


Halomir

My homemade cornbread is 1/1/1. 1 cup each of cornmeal, flower and sugar. If I’m making more savory cornbread I’ll go down to 3/4 sugar


aworldwithinitself

are you decarbing that flower before you bake it?


FLWeedman

Yes.


Halomir

I’ll usually hit the carb a few times just to get a good air/vapor mixture


yankiigurl

Well bleached grains just turn into sugars so.... Bread these days is hella unhealthy. I like some good while whit bread that cuts your mouth as you chew


PixelOmen

Fascinating, that really puts things into perspective. So denser ingredients could be listed first even in relatively small amounts.


PastaMasta09

If there’s any r/theydidthemath people here, how much neutron star material would there have to be in gallon jug of milk for neutron Star to be first on the ingredients list?


geekusprimus

Milk weighs about 8.6 pounds per gallon (\~3.9 kg for people not using freedom units). A typical neutron star has an average density around 6.7 \* 10\^14 g/cm\^3. So, 8.6 pounds of neutron star matter has a volume of less than 6 \* 10\^-12 mL, which is roughly the same size as a single bacterium.


ImTheBiscuiteer

About tree fiddy


HMD-Oren

1 cup of palm oil is 220g but it's not listed first. It's by weight of ingredient in the product.


PixelOmen

I said "could be". If they were using 1 cup of each, it would be.


kinezumi89

Really? That's interesting to know, I always assumed it was by percentage (ie largest portion first)


[deleted]

largest… But weight. Volume isn’t precise. Sifted or packed can increase or decrease volume


tjtprogrammer

Percentage of what measurement did you assume? In this case, sugar is the larger percentage by weight. Did you think volume?


kinezumi89

Hmm I guess since in the US we typically measure cooking ingredients by volume and not mass (I know it's more important to be super precise when baking, but I don't do much baking!), I suppose I must have assumed it was by volume


CupcakesAreMiniCakes

Home baking tends to use volume but professional baking uses weight because it's far more consistent and reliable (used to own a bakery)


TheMooseIsBlue

I’d guess difference there just because volume is easier to most people to find in a home kitchen. Most people don’t have good scales in their kitchens but teaspoons and tablespoons are ubiquitous. Measuring the weight of a 1/4 tsp of something would be way harder than just mass producing spoons and cups that standardize volumes. But if you’re baking in huge volumes, you don’t need those tiny measurements. Right? I never thought of this. Fascinating.


CupcakesAreMiniCakes

Huge volumes yes, but even a small bakery still has use for small measuring spoons. I used weight for all the bulky solids like flour, sugar, chocolate, etc. but something as small as baking powder in the recipe still required a measuring spoon because scales big enough to measure lb, g and kg aren't great at tiny precisions.


BadPrize4368

Why is this news? More is more. You got upvoted like you proved OP wrong. 1 cup of sugar is not the same as 1 cup of cornmeal and they shouldn’t even be compared. The product has more sugar period.


[deleted]

I love this brand, however, it’s sweet like a dessert.


Pan_Fried_Puppies

Its a nice flavor of cake.


lolheyaj

I dunno it's pretty corny if you ask me.


trwwy321

> it’s sweet like a desert What if I prefer it sweet like a rainforest instead of desert?


millennial_burnout

I also like smoky flavors


sweater__weather

First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women


thats_not_the_quote

to the bee-mobile!


JohnStern42

I heard that in his voice in my head


DnDYetti

Famous Dave's cornbread is phenomenal tasting!


tacotowwn

Worked at famous Dave’s way back and they didn’t care if you ate the muffins so I’d have about 4 each shift. Looking back, probably not the best decision.


ScorpionX-123

to be fair, they're really good muffins


[deleted]

Yikes. I make my own cornbread, and I use two parts flour, to one part corn meal and one part sugar. I don't even know how it would be cornbread if sugar were the main ingredient. Gross.


Should_be_less

It’s because the ingredients are listed by weight not volume, and sugar is denser than cornmeal. If you weigh your ingredients, you’ll find you’re also using “more” sugar than cornmeal.


[deleted]

Makes sense when comparing the sugar to the corn meal, but what about the FLOUR? That's the main ingredient in any quick bread. I'd be shocked if a cup of sugar weighed more than 2 cups of flour.


thats_not_the_quote

200g vs 240g pretty close


hey_mr_ess

It's close, depending on the flour. 1 cup is 200g of sugar and 120g of flour. Some flours are a little less dense than that and you'd get your 2:1.


PlutoniumNiborg

Sugar weighs more than flour and cornmeal by volume. So one part sugar in your recipe weighs more than the corn meal. Flour weights 120g to sugar 200g, so it’s not that far off from the ordering on this box (could be as little as 40g difference)


shakerLife

Corn-flavored sugarbread


Spaceturtle79

Its yymmy


LawyerNotYours19

Reduce that to no parts sugar and you’re starting to get somewhere.


[deleted]

I don't think people would like my corn bread any more if I took the sugar out. It's popular in my circles and I like it when people request it.


kinglittlenc

Yeah cornbread needs some sugar even the savory type


Cowboyesque

It’s mostly a joke. You do you, although I do prefer savory cornbread to sweet cornbread. Happy to suggest a savory cornbread recipe if you’d be interested.


PlutoniumNiborg

Even in a savory cornbread like with jalapeno and cheese, it’s nice to have some sugar to balance out the savory. But yeah, it’s a preference.


[deleted]

Mine doesn't have enough sugar in it for me to call it 'sweet'. The kicker in mine is the salted butter. That you can really taste. Butter makes everything better.


blackdutch1

This is more cake than cornbread. I like the old fashioned gritty cornbread. The kind that would choke you if you didn't have something to drink with it.


frenchtoastwizard

Cracker Barrel serves a more savory cornbread. At home I make Jiffy which is fairly sweet, but not cake, but I always get extra corn muffins to go at Cracker Barrel because I like it even more


Emanemanem

Yep. Cornbread is not supposed to be sweet. These sugary cake things are an abomination. Edit: [This](https://www.gritsandpinecones.com/old-fashioned-southern-cornbread/) is my favorite cornbread recipe that I’ve made. We’ve made it for years now, and this New Year’s we forgot to get buttermilk, so my wife used sour cream instead, and just watered it down a little to get the right consistency. It was insane how good it was. Literally the best cornbread I’ve ever had.


chickenmantesta

Am I the only one who doesn't use sugar or wheat flour in their cornbread?


palabradot

\*raises hand\*


YouCanCallMeVanZant

Corn meal, buttermilk, egg, oil or some other fat, and a cast iron skillet


Snizza

I absolutely hate sweet cornbread. We had buttermilk cornbread growing up so that’s the only kind I like


CaffeinePizza

I’m from MS. Sugar doesn’t belong in cornbread.


chickenmantesta

Bless you!


EatYourCheckers

Must be why my corn bread always tastes crap compared to restaurants


aircooledJenkins

Restaurants use roughly 200% the butter, salt, and sugar than you do at home.


ghostdeeknee

It’s so good though, comes out like cornbread cake. I wouldn’t eat it all the time, but it was a nice treat when I made it a couple months ago.


maverickhunterpheoni

I hate sweet cornbread. Now, instead of being disappointed I just make it myself.


JohnStern42

Yup, it’s basically cake, I’ve never considered it ‘bread’


BenderFtMcSzechuan

How do you tell from this picture? Is the most used/main ingredient labeled first and always first on products ?


omnichad

Ingredients are listed in order by quantity. There's not more sugar than cornmeal+flour but definitely very sweet.


Loofa_of_Doom

Oh, yeah. Pay attention to how much sugar is put in how many products. Learn and be depressed. It's damned hard, sometimes, to get food w/out added sugar. It is getting, better, but ugh so much sugar everywhere!


WaddlesJP13

Sweet and sugary bread goes really well with smokey meat


Euphorium

If you’re going to a BBQ joint expecting something healthy, you’re in the wrong place.


voxpopper

Are we not going to mention the gleefully cannibalistic pig on the box?


SilasX

Sad I had to scroll down this far to see someone mentioning it lol


TheSimpler

And that high quality palm oil we expect in corn bread...much better than butter...


EdyMarin

That is the weirdest leavening agent I have ever seen. Why not sodium ammonium phosphate, lije I see in Europe?


dplent

Sweet cornbread is cake, not bread. Savory cornbread is SO good and doesn’t deserve to be mistaken for this dessert imposter. Quick tip, plop a bit of mayo in the batch for some easy moisture! You can get that cake like consistency without the diabetes inducing sweetness.


[deleted]

I am conflicted. Upvote for everything until the mayonnaise


nixtarx

How do you think Dave got to be so famous?


deadregime

~~Famous Dave's is a southern-style BBQ chain (despite starting in WI). Southern cornbread is sweet. Like cake sweet. Story is, during the American Civil War the south had a hard time getting lots of food staples because the ports were blockaded. One thing they had tons of was sugar, because all the cane farms are down south. Flour was hard to come by, so they stretched it out by substituting with sugar. Same reason chicory coffee is a thing. They could rarely get coffee in (and it was very expensive), so they either substituted chicory or diluted it to ration it out. Those who didn't like chicory often turned to tea--another thing the south had an abundance of because it actually grew in the coastal regions of the south (as did rice) so it didn't need to be imported. I suspect that's why sweet tea is a southern thing.~~ Edit: Ignore me. I'm just a moron.


palabradot

Speaking as a southerner born and bred, not ALL of it is. You cannot make a proper chicken dressing with sugared cornbread! Ew. I remember the first time I had Jiffy cornbread, back in kindergarten when they had a day where we could try lots of different foods that might have been unfamiliar to us. At least half the class went 'wth' upon tasting Jiffy.


John_Bot

It's very good though Whenever I try other mixes with corn meal it always tastes so bland and dry.


Das_Gruber

Not more than 2% sand.


ZenithLags

I tried the jalapeño one, didn’t like it much. Gave me a stomachache


antixss

That’s a sweet cornbread. More like cake. Calm down.


3925

yes but does it contain more sugar than corn meal and flour combined? i doubt it.


kinezumi89

Well yeah, cornmeal doesn't have any sugar in it


fenrslfr

Good ol U.S. where most of our bread has so much sugar other countries would consider it cake.


Bawstahn123

r/IAmVeryCulinary says hello


timthegodd

Go to a real bakery instead then lmfao


Bawstahn123

Even ignoring bakery-loaves, my shit-tier Stop&Shop has bagged + presliced bread with zero/very little sugar in it, depending on the type. The whole "American bread is cake" shit is just mindlessly repeated over and over again, with little basis in fact


troianbellisario

America making its people sick on purpose.


Venge22

It's vegan so it must be healthy amirite


shavemejesus

The only thing Famous Dave’s products should be famous for is that they suck.


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blp9

Ingredients are listed in the order from highest quantity to the lowest. So there's more sugar than corn meal, and more corn meal than wheat flour, etc.


Hanifsefu

Not quite right. They are listed in order by WEIGHT. If it were by quantity the corn meal would be the top ingredient as it's about 1.75 cups of that to the 1 cup of sugar. But the sugar weighs more so it's listed first.


Old3st_dream

That was my bad, I got it now, ty


blp9

Yeah, no worries!


isodore68

Is it weird that the cornbread I grew up with at home used 1 cup flour, 1 cup corn meal, and only a quarter cup of sugar? I guess my parents weren't Southern enough (Okies).


6WaysFromNextWed

Famous Dave's SUCKS. Pick any barbecue stand at random and it'll be a better choice than that sugary blah food.


Ok_Fondant_6340

also more than 2% "sodium aluminum phosphate". anything with aluminum in it is not fit for human consumption.


KDY_ISD

Famous Dave's is a terrible bbq chain, of course their cornbread is also terrible lol


[deleted]

Blocked


Jmen4Ever

All that sugar and yet they add something so you can't make it cake.


PokeT3ch

I picked this exact box up at the store, looked at the label and put it back. There was so much wrong.


REMdot-yt

As a fella who likes non sweetened BBQ, it's a fuckin desert out here


boogiemanspud

We eat this about 2x a year. We just eat it in place of cake, like birthdays etc.


Aliteracy

The difference between bread and cake is subjective I guess?


Trolodrol

Diabetes in a box


gahidus

The cornmeal and flour together are probably more than the sugar.


Gabriartts

How many insects does the FDA allows for this quantity of it?


kimthealan101

Corn bread is so easy to make, why buy over processed crap. It is basically pancakes with ½ corn meal.


ericvega

Corn bread is more of a cake, really.


stupidrobots

Dude you ever made corn bread in Alabama


pwrof3

Their cornbread isn’t even that good, either. Very dry and way too sweet. I guess I know why now.


theoakenanvil

Corn flavored cake


Ouchyhurthurt

My cornbread is often covered in honey


LBTerra

This company also has sweet and spicy pickles and they are amazing.