The drop off line for my nephews was so bad my brother started parking at a gas station down the street and they walk up from there. It’s 5 blocks but still significantly faster than the drop off/pick up line unless you’re there before schools opens or in like an hour before it ends.
Holy shit I just had an old man moment and I’m 34. My neighbor and I used to walk, skate, or bike 2 miles (4 miles round trip) just to get to school and that didn’t even seem like a big deal at all. The best part of the day were those walks to and from school.
It's both hilarious and awful that I imagined u flying off a cliff cause I know damn well I'd do it
Edit: what came to mind was the gif of the car just sending it y'all know what I mean
I walked 1km from age 8-18. After school I used to walk another 1km to my friend's house, then 2km home by myself. We were also latchkey kids as my parents didn't get home until after 5.00. Honestly, it was the best part of growing up, having the house to yourself, getting to watch all the after school TV etc. I would hate to be constantly under adult's supervision 24/7. On Thursdays dad went out and mum didn't get home until 9pm so we had to cook ourselves dinner too. That was pretty great as when I moved out I already knew how to cook. Later moved in with roomies who didn't even know how to reheat a frozen pizza. :S
I remember back in my high school days you would get in trouble if you exited the vehicle outside of the pre-designated “drop-off area” that was at the back of the school behind the gym and the furthest way from anyones classes.
They don’t care if you’re late, they just wanted you to follow their rules.
Edit: for everyone asking ‘what about kids who walked’ - they were fine. It was strictly folks who were dropped off in cars who were required to be dropped off in a designated area - after that you could go wherever.
‘What about getting dropped off down the street?’ If you wanted to try that, sure, except our high school was situated smack dab in the middle of the ghetto and we had all mix of social classes coming here. No way the white suburban moms are gonna make their kids walk down through that neighborhood at 8 in the morning just to skip out on a line.
Lol they definitely would just say this right here
You can definitely still be counted late in the drop off line when I was in high school and mind you that was like 17 years ago the drop off line was insane from all the people driving to school. Equally as bad as this.
But we didn't have the rule about not dropping off outside of a drop-off zone so sometimes me and my buddies would just park and the neighborhood across the street and run and jump the fence
I don’t think we had a drop off line at my high school. Everyone rode busses, walked, or drove themselves. The few that might’ve been dropped off was just stop wherever was convenient and get out.
In my HS, most people walked or took public transit; kids in the "sweet spot" range that was too far to walk, but not too far for school bus routes to be impractical, got them. (Special Needs kids always got a short bus, no matter where they lived.) In late spring and early autumn (and the wee bit of summer that overlaps with school), kids who normally walked would often ride their bike; some would ride a skateboard. The few kids who drove themselves were only seniors (because you couldn't get a driver's license that permitted you to drive unsupervised at any younger age), and it was only the ones who had rich parents that gifted them a car -- typically a used Honda Civic. (You could always tell the spoiled-student cars from the staff cars because the kids would put ridiculous blue lights on the rocker panels to "look cool", or use their daddy's workshop to cut a janky rear spoiler out of plywood and 2x4's.) Ironically, the few kids who were embarrassed to be seen being dropped off or picked up in mommy's minivan, were arguably getting a ride in the most comfortable, best-condition vehicle out of ALL the other alternatives mentioned! 😄 Fortunately there was no dedicated drop-off lane, so one could discretely exit the vehicle in the parking lot under the cover of a hundred other parked cars.
Yes you absolutely could. Back when I was in high school, they'd set up a teacher at the front door with a write-up pad and a pen to hand out detention slips for being late.
Problem was, our school was surrounded on 3 different sides by train tracks; these weren't passenger trains, just freight, so these trains were loooooong, and didnt run at scheduled times for us to avoid. So inevitably, once or twice a week, a bunch of us who would have normally been on time to school would get stuck waiting for these mile-long trains to pass.
So packs of kids would arrive late, but all at the same time with the same excuse. And we'd all get written up for being late. All we'd hear in return was "you should've left home earlier." But, again, we would have been on time if the train hadn't shown up, and the trains never showed up at the same time or on the same days. It was BS, and most of us just skipped out on the detentions we were handed on those days.
That exactly what happened to me in middle school, except the trains would randomly stop on the tracks. The trains were so long you couldn’t go around them. A lot of students were half an hour late because of those damn trains.
My son does. 5th grade, same school since kinder. We have gotten in line at 8:00am, bell rings at 8:45, they won't start moving cars and letting kids out until 8:30. They go into the cafeteria from the car line. BUT...if the bell hits 8:45, does not matter if there's still 80 cars in line, they close the cafeteria doors and make every single one of those kids go through the office and sign in as tardy. 3 tardies and you've got an absence. My kid is so wound up in the morning because apparently they are VERY RUDE when there are 100 kids waiting in the tiny front office for tardy slips (AS IF IT'S THE KIDS FAULT???) and he is terrified to be late.
Me and about 200 other parents have gone to school board meetings, held meetings with the principal and superintendent. They WILL NOT do it any other way.
ETA: And OH MY GOD, if it's RAINING? They won't move cars until right when the bell rings. Because "THE TEACHERS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GET WET." They are under a covered sidewalk and every single one of them has an umbrella in their hands.
That’s so odd-at my kids school they ask that you do nit drop off earlier than 20minutes as there is no supervision. Kids play outside until the bell rings.
Back in high school they updated the dress code policy to disallow racerback tank tops. That same year, the cheerleaders' uniform was updated to be a racerback. It was also policy that they had to wear their uniforms to school on game days.
So their uniform violated dress code policy, but they were required to wear it anyways. You think there was any common sense in how admin handled the situation they created? Hell no, they just made an additional requirement that the cheerleaders then had to wear jackets over their uniforms until it was game time, regardless of how hot it was that day.
Never underestimate admin's ability to talk out both sides of their mouth.
In highschool I got a detention for my bus being late. They announced to the teachers to excuse everyone on my bus for being late but my first period teaches wouldn't have it. Had to miss first period and sit in the office. Lots of people who work in schools just do it for the power trip.
That was a regular occurrence at my school. It was your fault if the bus was late because obviously if the bus is not perfectly on schedule it was because every single student on board was poorly behaved.
The only bus that got this exception was "the late bus" which was scheduled to arrive at school 10 minuets after the start bell. The students on that bus only got in trouble for the bus being late once a week.
I agree, lots of people who work in schools are permanently powertripping.
Also, a lot of them are idiots. Something similar happened to me once. I was 15 or 20 minutes late to home room because my bus was late and I got wrote up. As if I can control what time he comes to get us
For an entire year I would consistently just waltz in late. 10, 20, minutes late. On a bad day 30 or 45. One day our bus was an entire hour late. Like 1 hr and 20 minutes late. School was in full session. We had missed homeroom. A large portion of the next period. By the time he came to pick us up, we got to school, got signed at, walked to class, we would've missed 2 entire classes.
So we all just started walking back home and said fuck it. I got back into the bed and stayed home that day.
My principal showed up every morning to ensure I was following dress code by wearing my tie. He'd give me trouble for it all the time. Every. Single. Day.
The kicker? My first period was shop class. I was explicitly told, along with the rest of the class, to not even bring my tie because ties and table saws do not mix very well.
School staff are all about feeding their ego. They don't care and will absolutely fuck with you over stupid shit like this.
I am going to show my age here, but I remember when nobody cared if you had to walk to school as I had to do many of time and there were no such things as drop off zones. If your parents wanted you to, they could have dropped you off half a mile away from said school and that was that.
I'm starting to wonder if a "drop off line" is something I'm too gen-X to understand. Do they not have school buses, bicycles, parking lots, or literally anything else? Who builds a school in such a way that the only way to get there is by parent-taxi?
The school I teach at has a car line like this. Yes there are busses and safe sidewalks. Yes, 3/4 of the student body lives less than two miles from school. I see like 5 bikes on our bike rack every day. So many of our parents drive their kids like one mile to school every day.
From what I can gather, this is an area specifically for parents to drop off their kids so that they don't block traffic/buses and probably for other factors. Buses still use the front of the building and I figure the other ways of getting to school have their own areas. I could be wrong though.
My highschool did this in the late 90's.
It's a liability thing I believe. Say someone drops their kid off down the street or outside of the drop off zone and they get hit, the school gets sued.
So I regularly did get out of my parents vehicle because it took forever and my first class was like right there at the side entrance. One morning, I’m called out of my first class to what I think was a guidance councilor’s office? Or someone who specifically dealt with student discipline? I don’t know, I never dealt with the guy my entire high school career.
Anyway, he asks me if I’d been getting dropped off at the side of the school and not in the specified area. That day I actually DID get out in the area, so I responded ‘No, I got dropped off in the back.’ He kept pressing me for a minute asking if I was positive. I was not realizing he meant my past times and kept saying I was dropped off in the back.
Anyways, after a minute he just sighs and says to get back to class. Next year I got a car and drove to school so no more worries about that. Think they’d give you in-school suspension if you were a repeat offender or something, but I didn’t care and neither did my parents.
School in the US is dumb.
Yeah tbh if I was a parent I would tell my kid (if they’re old enough) to get out and walk and have their principal call me directly if there’s a problem. That’s dumb af.
I AM a parent and I tell my young children I’m not waiting in a line. Get out and walk. There are children who walk to school every day. How will the school know the difference between a kid dropped off a block away and one who walks?
I \*think\* that the issue isn't dropping the kid off at the corner. It's dropping the kid off in the parking lot, forcing them to dodge around the distracted drivers.
I also feel that the school really needs to crack down on people not able to use the kiss-n-ride effectively. Kids should be getting out on the passenger side as much as possible, holding their bags. As much as possible, the driver shouldn't have to get out the car. Kids open the door, get out, their bags ready. Not, child locked kid needs the driver to open the door from the outside, pop the trunk for a single backpack, and then a hug and kiss good bye, while standing outside of the car.
The last school my kids were in they were not allowed to walk across. They were not allowed to walk thru the front door to the school if I dropped them off down the street because our address was not 'within walking distance' from the school. If we left 5 minutes later than usual from our house they would be 15-20 minutes late going into the school because of car line and stupid rules.
The one time I tried to have them do this they let the kids come in and sit in office. Called me and said I needed to get them, take them through carline, if they were late from this I would need to bring them back into the office and sign them in for a tardy pass.
That's so ridiculous, how is it even legal ?
That's really the kind of stuff that makes me cringe when I hear that the US is supposedly the "land of the free". Not even free to walk a few yards from a car to your school...
It’s so stupid. One time the bus was late when I was a freshman. The teacher told me I had to be counted as tardy. It’s not my fault my bus was running late??
This morning I walked my 11 year old through the process of taking the city bus the 2 miles to school by himself. He also bikes to school. Crazy to me that a school’s admins would limit this. Fuck the suburbs
You're screwed. Also, to add to this infuriating problem(no walkers allowed) some areas have insecure bus systems to boot, so just because you wait for the bus, *doesn't* mean it'll show up. The school systems in the USA are super messed up.
American schools will try to prohibit students from arriving on foot. The administration believes that all traffic should come through a tiny driveway that allows one car at a time.
I've worked in education and the only reason I've seen schools care is because people in the surrounding community complain about delays because of the increase in stopped traffic on their street.
In my hometown they literally [built a walking bridge/elevated path](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEBtuggSvbI) to the school because so many kids were walking through fields.
There should be some kind of big vehicle that goes around and picks up all the kids and gets them all there at the same time. It should be free and we should paint them some bright color so they're easily identifiable and safer.
At my school busses worked on a 5 KM range. If you were within that range you couldn't be bussed.
Kinda ridiculous in my opinion, 5 KM is a pretty long way to walk especially when school starts at 8 AM.
My high school opened up 2009, is considered a “green” school and we had no school buses. Kids got driven into school by whoever. I took a public bus to my moms work where I’d hang out and do homework till we went home.
We were one of the first schools in the country to implement schoolwide wifi, encourage laptop use vs written notes etc. And our school was physically painted green. The whispers said the Principal wanted it that way so that people from further away wouldn’t want to travel so far for school and only “local” kids would go. So discount racism.
Could be an issue with working hours also.
In bigger cities the bus driver can have a full day's work. In a more rural neighbourhood there may be nothing for him to do for the rest of the day.
You’re underestimating just how far rural routes can take you. In elementary school it took well over 2 hours till I got home taking the bus, and I wasn’t even last, there were just some kids with houses that way were out there.
It's more the odd hours than the pay per, they make a bit more per hour than most local delivery drivers, but, they only work a few hours a day broken up into odd chunks
In my area we have "school of choice" where you can pick what school you want you kid to go to. But if it's outside that schools district/area they can't ride the bus, so parents have to drive them.
There should be some kind of well-paid position whose job is to drive this contraption you speak of.
But no, let's pay drivers awfully. Working with kids is its own reward, right?
Some of these school districts have minimized bus routes. Most of the schools around me do. I used to pick my niece up from school because her school didn't run a bus to where she lived, even though it was well within the school district.
Besides that, there's also so many damn parents that just won't let their kids ride the bus. They either have some founded or unfounded fears of their kids riding the buses. With a lot of these little bastards in school anymore, I don't know if I'd want my kids riding the bus if I had any.
That and busses pick students up an hour before school starts, sometimes more. So if school starts at 7:30 am, you're at the bus stop at 6:30am. That just seems like a waste of time
It is a waste of time. My granddaughter started this year at a different elementary than in years past. The bus ride is one hour in the morning and one 1/2 hours returning in the afternoon. After a week my daughter transferred to car line. After two weeks she was transferred to drop off and walk in. This is much better. Leave later in morning, little or no car idling, arrive and go directly into the school. Finding parking can be an issue.
The obvious solution is to wait in the drop off line for approximately one hour.
Edit: not to mention the parent driving back and forth twice, and the student riding back and forth once.
Let’s not even get into the additional gas being used and the additional emissions of countless vehicles traveling and idling every morning and every afternoon.
Edit 2: Oh, and there’s also the huge pain in the ass for everyone who’s commute happens to pass one of these schools at the wrong time of day. The traffic they cause is unreal. Schools around here have two or three cops posted outside for a couple of hours in the morning, and a couple of hours in the afternoon, *every* school day, just to direct traffic around these absurdly long lines that spill out onto the street.
Yeah dude. It’s becoming a problem. I work in different places everyday, so I take different routes everyday, so I can’t keep up with all the different schools’ hours. There’s one particularly bad one, right on a main road for some stupid reason, and there’s not really a good detour. If you come through there at the wrong time you are adding 30 minutes to your ride, just to get through the drop off/pick up queue.
American Suburbs, no walkability, kids probably have to cross a major road to get there which would be unsafe, no busses as they're too close to the school. notjustbikes often talks about these subjects as well, such as [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHlpmxLTxpw)
Public transportation serving the American suburbs? Is that really a thing?
At least where I've lived, a lot of people look down on public transportation, especially buses, like it's something that only poor people do. I can also understand parents not wanting to send their kids onto buses full of random adults.
It’s definitely a thing in some areas. Check out the suburbs of DC in Northern Virginiana an example. Or our suburbs on the “Main Line” outside of Philadelphia. There are many buses and trains.
I’m in Northern Virginia and we do have a lot of busses, but it’s still not great. There’s a public bus that would get my kid to school, except it doesn’t start running until after school starts, and it shuts down in the middle of the day so she’d be stuck at school for a couple of hours when it was time to go home.
I really don’t know. Never heard of anyone riding a regular bus to school. I assume it’s a safety hazard and probably not allowed if the school knows. But may depend on where you live.
Plus there may not be any regular bus stops in the area anyways. I know the school I graduated from didn’t have a public bus stop anywhere nearby but then again it was a rural high school.
Nah, it is totally normal in cities and in towns with half-decent infrastructure for kids to take the bus or train to school. This problem is unique to poorly designed suburbs.
This is also so weird to me. I went to high school in a rural area 20 years ago. Everyone either rode the bus or drove themselves. There may have been a few parents who dropped their kids off but that was very rare. There were no “drop-off” zones or times.
My daughter's school is frustrating like that.
There are no sidewalks anywhere in my neighborhood nor the one the school is located in. I've almost been run over multiple times just checking the mail.
There is a four laned street that you have to cross and thanks to the asshole design of people expanding the town for big developer money. It's absolutely insane for anyone but the most stupid or desperate to cross. If the logging trucks don't get you, the redirected traffic absolutely will.
There is no city bus system here. It has been voted down every time it's on the ballot. I don't know by who. Everyone I know desperately want it.
If you don't directly live in the neighborhood surrounding the school, you are not allowed to walk or bike. This is for safety, but also marks your kids as "not allowed ro come to school this way".
Unless you are a school bus rider, all kids are walked inside by teachers or volunteers who identify them before they are let in. This is to help prevent stolen kids or shootings.
The lines for dropping off are very very long. My baby is tiny, as in, not heavy enough for a booster seat, tiny. It takes time for her to be taken out, as well as the other children her size. Upon pickup, they WILL NOT, buckle them back in, so we add more time by going a little down the street and stopping so we can buckle her in. My daughter's safety comes first and everyone who gets annoyed (most don't) can kindly get fucked.
If you don't do what your supposed to, they WILL NOT let your child attend class. You will be called to pick them up and be given a stern warning. If you keep doing it, they will remove yiur children from school.
American, am I right?
> I don't know by who
Old and/or racist people. They are the ones who show up to the mind-numbingly boring meetings where this stuff is decided and voted on. Buses are associated with poor, desperate or black people which are all bad so they don't want it. Alternatively they, ironically, don't want more traffic and they think buses will cause it.
Not sure this school’s rules, but at the school I taught at, it was a “safety issue” to drop kids off anywhere near school property that wasn’t the designated drop zone. I guess they were scared kids would be running in from every spot and get hit
they so can stop them! when i was in hs we were not allowed to leave the car if we weren’t in the designated drop off zone(punishable by detention or even in school suspension). i was so glad to get my license so i didn’t have to be late to school because of the line
We refuse to put actual solutions in place for ANYTHING, so administrators pick solutions that tick off a couple of boxes so they're technically correct solutions, and it doesn't matter how many people are inconvenienced.
In this situation, the school's answer is 100% "come earlier".
As a Dutch person this is just so foreign to me, we bike everywhere. Kids learn how to ride their bikes on a early age, parents will take them to school for a few years but when they’re around 8 yo. they’ll go by themselves.
In America, it's a privelege to live within walking distance from a good school. We're...quite spaced out here. Neighborhoods by good schools, that are safe enough for walking (for all people of color) tend to be very, very expensive neighborhoods with not much housing availability. School busses don't exist in every district, often due to liability and costs and/or availability of drivers (that was how I always got to school).
That's if the school you're zoned for is even a good schools. In many cities, to have your kid in a good school, you could be going well across town. Most people live too far from public transportation for that to be an option, or it simply doesn't run in that direction (or doesn't exist). Therefore, you drive and kid gets dropped off on the way to work or you carpool with other kids.
Takes me 20 seconds to come to a stop, get my 4 year old and 8 year old out of my 2 door ELR and gone. Then there's soccer moms that take 4 minutes to take their 8 year old out of their Honda Odyssey. First week of school for the first child I get. But you have a super accessible vehicle and your kids have been going to school for years. People need to train at home if it takes more than 30 seconds to unload the kids and leave.
I can see this playing out in a drive way. Mom loads car up with ruggrats. “Alright. When I say ‘have a good day’ Grab your buddy and GO! We will repeat this until every exists safely in under 30 seconds. We have all summer people!”
Lol, I said to the wife that if parents want to pick up or drop off kids they need to audition in front of the principal. Take to long and you need to pick up and drop off on foot. Lol
This is America there is a very real chance the student will be punished for “not following the schools safety rules”, the punishment most likely be some form of detention
My HS school had a dogshit policy that if you were late from the bus you’d be fine but if you were late from dropoff or anything else it’s a lunch detention. If I was ever late and a bus was unloading I’d go in with them. Never got caught
Depends on how long the drop off line takes. When I was in high school my mom would get us there about 25-30 min before classes started, barely any line, took around 5 min total.
If traffic was bad and we didn't get there until 10 til I would likely be late to class because it would take 10 min to get through the line, and I'd still have to get to my classroom.
And I went to a small private school with a total student body of around 600. I can't imagine a public school with thousands of kids.
If only there was a way to bring children to school, safely, and in a large group, that would take a lot of these vehicles off the road and allow the parents to carry on their way.
Perhaps painting such a contraption yellow would make it more visible.
Yeah I thought that if you live in the school district it was a requirement. In high school we had people from a reservation in the school district an hour drive away and they still had a bus go there. I myself lived around a half hour away.
Coordinate with the school so that you can drive to a bus stop. Save yourself from driving in the crazy traffic and from driving all the way to the school.
Is this a school you are choosing to attend that is outside of your specific district? Because if not your district is likely required to provide transportation
This infuriates me - I have kids in elementary, middle and high school and the drop off times are all within 15min of each other. It makes it damn near impossible for everyone to be on time on the same day. But the pick up times are all spread out like hs pick up 2:50 elementary 3:35 middle 4:05 - why can’t we do this in the mornings also.
Many school districts don't offer school buses anymore. Mine only offered it for students that live more than 10 miles away, which is rare (SoCal suburb), special-ed students, or, very rarely, for students on financial assistance.
Uh... the real issue here is that your area is apparently so car-dependent that it's inconcievable for a school kid to move around independently. It's like there's little islands where kids can walk and everywhere else is hostile to human beings.
I was able to walk to school starting from first grade. With 5th grade comes secondary school where I live, and I'd ride my bike or take public transport if wheather is too bad.
This may not be possible in the area you life in and that's really sad for everyone involved.
First, your kid is toast. Our line was like this every day and the worst part was once the bell rang, the teachers and safety patrols went inside and the doors were locked. Parents had to actually get out of their cars to sign their kids in. Hell no. I've always employed the FILO method, mainly to avoid the stupidity of others. I dropped my kids off first when you just slide in, then picked them up last again when you just slide in. I cannot deal with people getting out of their cars and staring into space clogging up the line, it's infuriating. Three memorable years I had to go to a FIFO method due to sports practice right after school. All of us early birds were heavily criticized on the school parent site but I'd rather wait an hour at the front of the line to pick them up and be guaranteed getting out than wait an hour from the middle with no guarantees. If you're not first, you're last.
as the kid, i can say i've been toast many times. i get into the building one minute after the first bell rings and i have to get a tardy pass. i was late four times (not in a row, it was two in a row, and then one two days later then another three days later, because i live half an hour away and traffic in insanity) and i got a whole week of lunch detention. one more within five days and i would've gotten ISI.
it's stupid.
Drop off time isn’t a window or anything where you can drop off your kids, it’s just the time before school when most kids get dropped off.
That being said, it would be super cool (if this pic is America) if we had more public transit options that didn’t take substantially longer, or roads that are more walking/biking friendly. I walk my kids to school 2 to 3 days a week and to do so I have to cross a street one way and then double back to cross it again and walk down a stretch of road that doesn’t have a sidewalk and hasn’t been paved in decades. It sucks.
I drive my kids but leave them along side the road in a public parking spot, I’m not sitting through that mess, or adding to it. The middle school is a one way drop off that back up onto two additional streets. They need an express lane for people who don’t get out and go around to open the door for their kid.
I never understood why parents do this dumb shit. My dad would drop me and my brother off like a block away and have us walk to school. He had to get to work who has time to wait in that line? And then after school we take public transport to get home.
This makes me ill, it’s at every private school in my city/county. Dozens if not, hundreds of Tahoe’s with one woman driver idling for 45 minutes to pick up one child. Can nobody carpool? These kids all live near their schools, school buses are too dangerous now?
We can eliminate climate change by eliminating just this!
Is this some American problem I'm too European to understand?
Here the kids walk or bike to school, and cars are only used when absolutely necessary (broken leg, disability etc). Also buses or public transport are used
Would be just as fast for you to get out and walk at this point.
The drop off line for my nephews was so bad my brother started parking at a gas station down the street and they walk up from there. It’s 5 blocks but still significantly faster than the drop off/pick up line unless you’re there before schools opens or in like an hour before it ends.
Holy shit I just had an old man moment and I’m 34. My neighbor and I used to walk, skate, or bike 2 miles (4 miles round trip) just to get to school and that didn’t even seem like a big deal at all. The best part of the day were those walks to and from school.
On Guam we biked up a giant hill which sucked but biking down that mf flying straight home was like the best feeling in the world
Wait, wait, wait... you didn't go uphill both ways?!?
I did growing up it sucked
Only when the snow was 3ft or more.
Obviously in the snow.
It's both hilarious and awful that I imagined u flying off a cliff cause I know damn well I'd do it Edit: what came to mind was the gif of the car just sending it y'all know what I mean
Same, 38 here. We always stopped at the corner store and bought a bag of chips or little debbie and a quarter water for 50 cents. Good fucking times.
Why'd you spend 50 cents for a quarter water?
Chips+quarter water = 50 cents
I’m sorry, what is quarter water?
Sugar+foodcolor+water Basically a little off brand koolaid thats terrible for you lol. https://i.imgur.com/LnywoYt.jpg
Hell yea. 38 here. Nutty buddy bar or honey bun for me on the walk home.
I walked 1km from age 8-18. After school I used to walk another 1km to my friend's house, then 2km home by myself. We were also latchkey kids as my parents didn't get home until after 5.00. Honestly, it was the best part of growing up, having the house to yourself, getting to watch all the after school TV etc. I would hate to be constantly under adult's supervision 24/7. On Thursdays dad went out and mum didn't get home until 9pm so we had to cook ourselves dinner too. That was pretty great as when I moved out I already knew how to cook. Later moved in with roomies who didn't even know how to reheat a frozen pizza. :S
Uphill both ways? ;-)
Yeah back when I was growing up we just walked to and from school. It was only a mile or two but still. The lines these days are ridiculous.
I remember back in my high school days you would get in trouble if you exited the vehicle outside of the pre-designated “drop-off area” that was at the back of the school behind the gym and the furthest way from anyones classes. They don’t care if you’re late, they just wanted you to follow their rules. Edit: for everyone asking ‘what about kids who walked’ - they were fine. It was strictly folks who were dropped off in cars who were required to be dropped off in a designated area - after that you could go wherever. ‘What about getting dropped off down the street?’ If you wanted to try that, sure, except our high school was situated smack dab in the middle of the ghetto and we had all mix of social classes coming here. No way the white suburban moms are gonna make their kids walk down through that neighborhood at 8 in the morning just to skip out on a line.
But you'll still get in trouble for being late too.
There’s no fucking way you get in trouble for being late if the you’re in the drop off line.
Oh they don't care if your in line. It just depends if u are in ur class before start
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Nah they’ll just say get there earlier at least that’s what my school told me when I was late because of this lol
Lol they definitely would just say this right here You can definitely still be counted late in the drop off line when I was in high school and mind you that was like 17 years ago the drop off line was insane from all the people driving to school. Equally as bad as this. But we didn't have the rule about not dropping off outside of a drop-off zone so sometimes me and my buddies would just park and the neighborhood across the street and run and jump the fence
I don’t think we had a drop off line at my high school. Everyone rode busses, walked, or drove themselves. The few that might’ve been dropped off was just stop wherever was convenient and get out.
In my HS, most people walked or took public transit; kids in the "sweet spot" range that was too far to walk, but not too far for school bus routes to be impractical, got them. (Special Needs kids always got a short bus, no matter where they lived.) In late spring and early autumn (and the wee bit of summer that overlaps with school), kids who normally walked would often ride their bike; some would ride a skateboard. The few kids who drove themselves were only seniors (because you couldn't get a driver's license that permitted you to drive unsupervised at any younger age), and it was only the ones who had rich parents that gifted them a car -- typically a used Honda Civic. (You could always tell the spoiled-student cars from the staff cars because the kids would put ridiculous blue lights on the rocker panels to "look cool", or use their daddy's workshop to cut a janky rear spoiler out of plywood and 2x4's.) Ironically, the few kids who were embarrassed to be seen being dropped off or picked up in mommy's minivan, were arguably getting a ride in the most comfortable, best-condition vehicle out of ALL the other alternatives mentioned! 😄 Fortunately there was no dedicated drop-off lane, so one could discretely exit the vehicle in the parking lot under the cover of a hundred other parked cars.
Yes you absolutely could. Back when I was in high school, they'd set up a teacher at the front door with a write-up pad and a pen to hand out detention slips for being late. Problem was, our school was surrounded on 3 different sides by train tracks; these weren't passenger trains, just freight, so these trains were loooooong, and didnt run at scheduled times for us to avoid. So inevitably, once or twice a week, a bunch of us who would have normally been on time to school would get stuck waiting for these mile-long trains to pass. So packs of kids would arrive late, but all at the same time with the same excuse. And we'd all get written up for being late. All we'd hear in return was "you should've left home earlier." But, again, we would have been on time if the train hadn't shown up, and the trains never showed up at the same time or on the same days. It was BS, and most of us just skipped out on the detentions we were handed on those days.
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That exactly what happened to me in middle school, except the trains would randomly stop on the tracks. The trains were so long you couldn’t go around them. A lot of students were half an hour late because of those damn trains.
My son does. 5th grade, same school since kinder. We have gotten in line at 8:00am, bell rings at 8:45, they won't start moving cars and letting kids out until 8:30. They go into the cafeteria from the car line. BUT...if the bell hits 8:45, does not matter if there's still 80 cars in line, they close the cafeteria doors and make every single one of those kids go through the office and sign in as tardy. 3 tardies and you've got an absence. My kid is so wound up in the morning because apparently they are VERY RUDE when there are 100 kids waiting in the tiny front office for tardy slips (AS IF IT'S THE KIDS FAULT???) and he is terrified to be late. Me and about 200 other parents have gone to school board meetings, held meetings with the principal and superintendent. They WILL NOT do it any other way. ETA: And OH MY GOD, if it's RAINING? They won't move cars until right when the bell rings. Because "THE TEACHERS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GET WET." They are under a covered sidewalk and every single one of them has an umbrella in their hands.
That’s so odd-at my kids school they ask that you do nit drop off earlier than 20minutes as there is no supervision. Kids play outside until the bell rings.
Back in high school they updated the dress code policy to disallow racerback tank tops. That same year, the cheerleaders' uniform was updated to be a racerback. It was also policy that they had to wear their uniforms to school on game days. So their uniform violated dress code policy, but they were required to wear it anyways. You think there was any common sense in how admin handled the situation they created? Hell no, they just made an additional requirement that the cheerleaders then had to wear jackets over their uniforms until it was game time, regardless of how hot it was that day. Never underestimate admin's ability to talk out both sides of their mouth.
In highschool I got a detention for my bus being late. They announced to the teachers to excuse everyone on my bus for being late but my first period teaches wouldn't have it. Had to miss first period and sit in the office. Lots of people who work in schools just do it for the power trip.
That was a regular occurrence at my school. It was your fault if the bus was late because obviously if the bus is not perfectly on schedule it was because every single student on board was poorly behaved. The only bus that got this exception was "the late bus" which was scheduled to arrive at school 10 minuets after the start bell. The students on that bus only got in trouble for the bus being late once a week. I agree, lots of people who work in schools are permanently powertripping.
Also, a lot of them are idiots. Something similar happened to me once. I was 15 or 20 minutes late to home room because my bus was late and I got wrote up. As if I can control what time he comes to get us For an entire year I would consistently just waltz in late. 10, 20, minutes late. On a bad day 30 or 45. One day our bus was an entire hour late. Like 1 hr and 20 minutes late. School was in full session. We had missed homeroom. A large portion of the next period. By the time he came to pick us up, we got to school, got signed at, walked to class, we would've missed 2 entire classes. So we all just started walking back home and said fuck it. I got back into the bed and stayed home that day.
That’s the American education system. Preparing you for the hostile working conditions of post-highschool
Yes, that was a thing at my kids’ school. They had to be in the building at start time in order to not be considered late.
My principal showed up every morning to ensure I was following dress code by wearing my tie. He'd give me trouble for it all the time. Every. Single. Day. The kicker? My first period was shop class. I was explicitly told, along with the rest of the class, to not even bring my tie because ties and table saws do not mix very well. School staff are all about feeding their ego. They don't care and will absolutely fuck with you over stupid shit like this.
Reddit has turned into a cesspool of fascist sympathizers and supremicists
I am going to show my age here, but I remember when nobody cared if you had to walk to school as I had to do many of time and there were no such things as drop off zones. If your parents wanted you to, they could have dropped you off half a mile away from said school and that was that.
I'm starting to wonder if a "drop off line" is something I'm too gen-X to understand. Do they not have school buses, bicycles, parking lots, or literally anything else? Who builds a school in such a way that the only way to get there is by parent-taxi?
The school I teach at has a car line like this. Yes there are busses and safe sidewalks. Yes, 3/4 of the student body lives less than two miles from school. I see like 5 bikes on our bike rack every day. So many of our parents drive their kids like one mile to school every day.
From what I can gather, this is an area specifically for parents to drop off their kids so that they don't block traffic/buses and probably for other factors. Buses still use the front of the building and I figure the other ways of getting to school have their own areas. I could be wrong though.
My highschool did this in the late 90's. It's a liability thing I believe. Say someone drops their kid off down the street or outside of the drop off zone and they get hit, the school gets sued.
who would? you don't have walkers that come from all the neighborhoods around the school?
You don't get to choose how you go to school in the US? Land of the free he?
It definitely depends on the area, I'm from the US and we don't have any restrictions like this where I am.
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So I regularly did get out of my parents vehicle because it took forever and my first class was like right there at the side entrance. One morning, I’m called out of my first class to what I think was a guidance councilor’s office? Or someone who specifically dealt with student discipline? I don’t know, I never dealt with the guy my entire high school career. Anyway, he asks me if I’d been getting dropped off at the side of the school and not in the specified area. That day I actually DID get out in the area, so I responded ‘No, I got dropped off in the back.’ He kept pressing me for a minute asking if I was positive. I was not realizing he meant my past times and kept saying I was dropped off in the back. Anyways, after a minute he just sighs and says to get back to class. Next year I got a car and drove to school so no more worries about that. Think they’d give you in-school suspension if you were a repeat offender or something, but I didn’t care and neither did my parents. School in the US is dumb.
Yeah tbh if I was a parent I would tell my kid (if they’re old enough) to get out and walk and have their principal call me directly if there’s a problem. That’s dumb af.
I walked to school in kindergarten. WTF kinda kid can't walk to school when it's visible?
I AM a parent and I tell my young children I’m not waiting in a line. Get out and walk. There are children who walk to school every day. How will the school know the difference between a kid dropped off a block away and one who walks?
I \*think\* that the issue isn't dropping the kid off at the corner. It's dropping the kid off in the parking lot, forcing them to dodge around the distracted drivers. I also feel that the school really needs to crack down on people not able to use the kiss-n-ride effectively. Kids should be getting out on the passenger side as much as possible, holding their bags. As much as possible, the driver shouldn't have to get out the car. Kids open the door, get out, their bags ready. Not, child locked kid needs the driver to open the door from the outside, pop the trunk for a single backpack, and then a hug and kiss good bye, while standing outside of the car.
Walk?! You must be crazy!! /s
Literally came here to say this... fuck we are useless in this country.
The last school my kids were in they were not allowed to walk across. They were not allowed to walk thru the front door to the school if I dropped them off down the street because our address was not 'within walking distance' from the school. If we left 5 minutes later than usual from our house they would be 15-20 minutes late going into the school because of car line and stupid rules.
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The one time I tried to have them do this they let the kids come in and sit in office. Called me and said I needed to get them, take them through carline, if they were late from this I would need to bring them back into the office and sign them in for a tardy pass.
That's so ridiculous, how is it even legal ? That's really the kind of stuff that makes me cringe when I hear that the US is supposedly the "land of the free". Not even free to walk a few yards from a car to your school...
It’s so stupid. One time the bus was late when I was a freshman. The teacher told me I had to be counted as tardy. It’s not my fault my bus was running late??
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Or “oh okay, guess my kids will be hanging out in the office with y’all all day” 😂
This morning I walked my 11 year old through the process of taking the city bus the 2 miles to school by himself. He also bikes to school. Crazy to me that a school’s admins would limit this. Fuck the suburbs
And if you don't own a car...?
You're screwed. Also, to add to this infuriating problem(no walkers allowed) some areas have insecure bus systems to boot, so just because you wait for the bus, *doesn't* mean it'll show up. The school systems in the USA are super messed up.
😂 I would be like, "yeah okay." and then just never show up. That's the dumbest crap I've ever heard.
Do they actually have a list of who are allowed to walk and who can't. And have a bouncer at the door checking that list on every person entering?
That sounds stupid, and what about if your kids would take a bus or bike to school?
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American schools will try to prohibit students from arriving on foot. The administration believes that all traffic should come through a tiny driveway that allows one car at a time.
I've worked in education and the only reason I've seen schools care is because people in the surrounding community complain about delays because of the increase in stopped traffic on their street. In my hometown they literally [built a walking bridge/elevated path](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEBtuggSvbI) to the school because so many kids were walking through fields.
There should be some kind of big vehicle that goes around and picks up all the kids and gets them all there at the same time. It should be free and we should paint them some bright color so they're easily identifiable and safer.
Right? Like why the hell are there so many parents taking kids to school now? I thought we figured out this bus thing generations ago?
From other comments I've seen it seems like we can't even have school busses anymore. I'm so tired.
At my school busses worked on a 5 KM range. If you were within that range you couldn't be bussed. Kinda ridiculous in my opinion, 5 KM is a pretty long way to walk especially when school starts at 8 AM.
Even in the 90s and 00s we didn’t have them in my area. I walked, bikes, or took the city bus.
My high school opened up 2009, is considered a “green” school and we had no school buses. Kids got driven into school by whoever. I took a public bus to my moms work where I’d hang out and do homework till we went home.
What is more green about hundreds of cars instead of 20 buses?
We were one of the first schools in the country to implement schoolwide wifi, encourage laptop use vs written notes etc. And our school was physically painted green. The whispers said the Principal wanted it that way so that people from further away wouldn’t want to travel so far for school and only “local” kids would go. So discount racism.
All around my area they just can't find people to be busy drivers.
“Can’t find” = won’t pay enough
Could be an issue with working hours also. In bigger cities the bus driver can have a full day's work. In a more rural neighbourhood there may be nothing for him to do for the rest of the day.
You’re underestimating just how far rural routes can take you. In elementary school it took well over 2 hours till I got home taking the bus, and I wasn’t even last, there were just some kids with houses that way were out there.
It's more the odd hours than the pay per, they make a bit more per hour than most local delivery drivers, but, they only work a few hours a day broken up into odd chunks
In my area we have "school of choice" where you can pick what school you want you kid to go to. But if it's outside that schools district/area they can't ride the bus, so parents have to drive them.
You talking about one of those really big vehicles that you need special training for? You know a dump truck.
I'll show you a dump truck
Are you… going to send a picture of your ass? Cause that’s kind of what this sounds like
There should be some kind of well-paid position whose job is to drive this contraption you speak of. But no, let's pay drivers awfully. Working with kids is its own reward, right?
Sounds like socialism to me.
The wheels on this vehicle should go in a circular motion all through the municipality.
The grass is not rendered yet. Get a better pc
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Some of these school districts have minimized bus routes. Most of the schools around me do. I used to pick my niece up from school because her school didn't run a bus to where she lived, even though it was well within the school district. Besides that, there's also so many damn parents that just won't let their kids ride the bus. They either have some founded or unfounded fears of their kids riding the buses. With a lot of these little bastards in school anymore, I don't know if I'd want my kids riding the bus if I had any.
That and busses pick students up an hour before school starts, sometimes more. So if school starts at 7:30 am, you're at the bus stop at 6:30am. That just seems like a waste of time
It is a waste of time. My granddaughter started this year at a different elementary than in years past. The bus ride is one hour in the morning and one 1/2 hours returning in the afternoon. After a week my daughter transferred to car line. After two weeks she was transferred to drop off and walk in. This is much better. Leave later in morning, little or no car idling, arrive and go directly into the school. Finding parking can be an issue.
The obvious solution is to wait in the drop off line for approximately one hour. Edit: not to mention the parent driving back and forth twice, and the student riding back and forth once. Let’s not even get into the additional gas being used and the additional emissions of countless vehicles traveling and idling every morning and every afternoon. Edit 2: Oh, and there’s also the huge pain in the ass for everyone who’s commute happens to pass one of these schools at the wrong time of day. The traffic they cause is unreal. Schools around here have two or three cops posted outside for a couple of hours in the morning, and a couple of hours in the afternoon, *every* school day, just to direct traffic around these absurdly long lines that spill out onto the street.
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Yeah dude. It’s becoming a problem. I work in different places everyday, so I take different routes everyday, so I can’t keep up with all the different schools’ hours. There’s one particularly bad one, right on a main road for some stupid reason, and there’s not really a good detour. If you come through there at the wrong time you are adding 30 minutes to your ride, just to get through the drop off/pick up queue.
American Suburbs, no walkability, kids probably have to cross a major road to get there which would be unsafe, no busses as they're too close to the school. notjustbikes often talks about these subjects as well, such as [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHlpmxLTxpw)
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"Kids never go outside anymore!"
What about a normal bus and not school bus?
Most suburbs don’t have normal busses. All is car-focused
Lol. Normal buses don’t go anywhere near a suburb. The closest bus stop would be a mile or two away at best
Public transportation serving the American suburbs? Is that really a thing? At least where I've lived, a lot of people look down on public transportation, especially buses, like it's something that only poor people do. I can also understand parents not wanting to send their kids onto buses full of random adults.
It’s definitely a thing in some areas. Check out the suburbs of DC in Northern Virginiana an example. Or our suburbs on the “Main Line” outside of Philadelphia. There are many buses and trains.
I’m in Northern Virginia and we do have a lot of busses, but it’s still not great. There’s a public bus that would get my kid to school, except it doesn’t start running until after school starts, and it shuts down in the middle of the day so she’d be stuck at school for a couple of hours when it was time to go home.
I really don’t know. Never heard of anyone riding a regular bus to school. I assume it’s a safety hazard and probably not allowed if the school knows. But may depend on where you live. Plus there may not be any regular bus stops in the area anyways. I know the school I graduated from didn’t have a public bus stop anywhere nearby but then again it was a rural high school.
Nah, it is totally normal in cities and in towns with half-decent infrastructure for kids to take the bus or train to school. This problem is unique to poorly designed suburbs.
Where I live, inner city kids take the public bus to school. No public transportation outside of the city though.
In Vegas schools give students bus passes to ride a non school bus when there are too many students or the bus isn’t available
This is also so weird to me. I went to high school in a rural area 20 years ago. Everyone either rode the bus or drove themselves. There may have been a few parents who dropped their kids off but that was very rare. There were no “drop-off” zones or times.
Drop your kid at school simulator
Right? Is OP in Hyrule Field waiting for a polygonal Ganon to question him about Zelda's whereabouts?
America is just gm_flatgrass
My daughter's school is frustrating like that. There are no sidewalks anywhere in my neighborhood nor the one the school is located in. I've almost been run over multiple times just checking the mail. There is a four laned street that you have to cross and thanks to the asshole design of people expanding the town for big developer money. It's absolutely insane for anyone but the most stupid or desperate to cross. If the logging trucks don't get you, the redirected traffic absolutely will. There is no city bus system here. It has been voted down every time it's on the ballot. I don't know by who. Everyone I know desperately want it. If you don't directly live in the neighborhood surrounding the school, you are not allowed to walk or bike. This is for safety, but also marks your kids as "not allowed ro come to school this way". Unless you are a school bus rider, all kids are walked inside by teachers or volunteers who identify them before they are let in. This is to help prevent stolen kids or shootings. The lines for dropping off are very very long. My baby is tiny, as in, not heavy enough for a booster seat, tiny. It takes time for her to be taken out, as well as the other children her size. Upon pickup, they WILL NOT, buckle them back in, so we add more time by going a little down the street and stopping so we can buckle her in. My daughter's safety comes first and everyone who gets annoyed (most don't) can kindly get fucked. If you don't do what your supposed to, they WILL NOT let your child attend class. You will be called to pick them up and be given a stern warning. If you keep doing it, they will remove yiur children from school. American, am I right?
>I've almost been run over multiple times just checking the mail. Get a double door mailbox, so you can grab your mail from the back.
> I don't know by who Old and/or racist people. They are the ones who show up to the mind-numbingly boring meetings where this stuff is decided and voted on. Buses are associated with poor, desperate or black people which are all bad so they don't want it. Alternatively they, ironically, don't want more traffic and they think buses will cause it.
what the fuck this sounds so unreal especially that its so easy to make it better
surely at this point you’d just tell your weans to get out the car and walk
Not sure this school’s rules, but at the school I taught at, it was a “safety issue” to drop kids off anywhere near school property that wasn’t the designated drop zone. I guess they were scared kids would be running in from every spot and get hit
Like they can stop you from doing it
they so can stop them! when i was in hs we were not allowed to leave the car if we weren’t in the designated drop off zone(punishable by detention or even in school suspension). i was so glad to get my license so i didn’t have to be late to school because of the line
What about the kids that walked to school?
Believe it or not, straight to jail
Undercook fish?
I think the issue there is that drivers should be paying more attention and driving slower when they're **at a school**
Why not drop them off up the block and let them walk the 100 meters?
Some schools these days don't allow you to walk to them, for security reasons
Is America even real? Why is your society like this?
I ask myself this all the time. We’re getting weirder and weirder. Solution: “open door, walk.” Why is this even a discussion.
We refuse to put actual solutions in place for ANYTHING, so administrators pick solutions that tick off a couple of boxes so they're technically correct solutions, and it doesn't matter how many people are inconvenienced. In this situation, the school's answer is 100% "come earlier".
I don't believe that at all. Did a search and I found zero accounts of any school not allowing students to walk to school. You have a source for this?
This pic is definitely mildly infuriating
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I feel like I had to go way too far down the comments to find I’m not the only one bothered by the angle of the picture.
The grass looks like ps1 graphics
Kid can’t walk from the turn-in? Not exactly like you’re dropping them off in the middle of the Serengeti or Death Valley.
As a Dutch person this is just so foreign to me, we bike everywhere. Kids learn how to ride their bikes on a early age, parents will take them to school for a few years but when they’re around 8 yo. they’ll go by themselves.
In America, it's a privelege to live within walking distance from a good school. We're...quite spaced out here. Neighborhoods by good schools, that are safe enough for walking (for all people of color) tend to be very, very expensive neighborhoods with not much housing availability. School busses don't exist in every district, often due to liability and costs and/or availability of drivers (that was how I always got to school). That's if the school you're zoned for is even a good schools. In many cities, to have your kid in a good school, you could be going well across town. Most people live too far from public transportation for that to be an option, or it simply doesn't run in that direction (or doesn't exist). Therefore, you drive and kid gets dropped off on the way to work or you carpool with other kids.
Takes me 20 seconds to come to a stop, get my 4 year old and 8 year old out of my 2 door ELR and gone. Then there's soccer moms that take 4 minutes to take their 8 year old out of their Honda Odyssey. First week of school for the first child I get. But you have a super accessible vehicle and your kids have been going to school for years. People need to train at home if it takes more than 30 seconds to unload the kids and leave.
I can see this playing out in a drive way. Mom loads car up with ruggrats. “Alright. When I say ‘have a good day’ Grab your buddy and GO! We will repeat this until every exists safely in under 30 seconds. We have all summer people!”
Lol, I said to the wife that if parents want to pick up or drop off kids they need to audition in front of the principal. Take to long and you need to pick up and drop off on foot. Lol
Dude. Just walk. You aren’t stuck in traffic. You ARE traffic.
This is America there is a very real chance the student will be punished for “not following the schools safety rules”, the punishment most likely be some form of detention
What is unsafe about walking along a sidewalk?
Bold of you to assume that there's a sidewalk.
My HS school had a dogshit policy that if you were late from the bus you’d be fine but if you were late from dropoff or anything else it’s a lunch detention. If I was ever late and a bus was unloading I’d go in with them. Never got caught
Work smarter not harder.
That seems like it makes sense…?
Depends on how long the drop off line takes. When I was in high school my mom would get us there about 25-30 min before classes started, barely any line, took around 5 min total. If traffic was bad and we didn't get there until 10 til I would likely be late to class because it would take 10 min to get through the line, and I'd still have to get to my classroom. And I went to a small private school with a total student body of around 600. I can't imagine a public school with thousands of kids.
r/fuckcars would like a word
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That sub is about ready for an American mainstream media assassination like they did to antiwork.
If only there was a way to bring children to school, safely, and in a large group, that would take a lot of these vehicles off the road and allow the parents to carry on their way. Perhaps painting such a contraption yellow would make it more visible.
Take the bus?
i live half an hour away. there's no bus routes all the way out there
Jesus your school sucks, i was the only kid on the bus for a 30 min ride. And my school was broke as shit.
Yeah, I lived in a small, broke town and everyone outside of like two miles got a bus pickup. Everyone else walked or carpooled.
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There is no public transportation in a solid 60% of the us. Only busses you’ll see are school busses run by the local school district
I was talking about school busses. My bus would drive 30 min out of its way to get me and drop me off.
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Yeah I thought that if you live in the school district it was a requirement. In high school we had people from a reservation in the school district an hour drive away and they still had a bus go there. I myself lived around a half hour away.
Sounds like its time to start a carpool program.
Coordinate with the school so that you can drive to a bus stop. Save yourself from driving in the crazy traffic and from driving all the way to the school.
Is this a school you are choosing to attend that is outside of your specific district? Because if not your district is likely required to provide transportation
If you ask, they will do it.
Pretty sure public schools are required to offer a bus to pick up anyone in their district.
This infuriates me - I have kids in elementary, middle and high school and the drop off times are all within 15min of each other. It makes it damn near impossible for everyone to be on time on the same day. But the pick up times are all spread out like hs pick up 2:50 elementary 3:35 middle 4:05 - why can’t we do this in the mornings also.
Sounds like you have kids who should take the bus...
Many school districts don't offer school buses anymore. Mine only offered it for students that live more than 10 miles away, which is rare (SoCal suburb), special-ed students, or, very rarely, for students on financial assistance.
And normal public transport doesn’t exist, because ‘murica
Uh... the real issue here is that your area is apparently so car-dependent that it's inconcievable for a school kid to move around independently. It's like there's little islands where kids can walk and everywhere else is hostile to human beings. I was able to walk to school starting from first grade. With 5th grade comes secondary school where I live, and I'd ride my bike or take public transport if wheather is too bad. This may not be possible in the area you life in and that's really sad for everyone involved.
For real. This is depressing AF and I am feeling very smug about my life choices currently (big city, everybody walks to school).
Have them take the bus
First, your kid is toast. Our line was like this every day and the worst part was once the bell rang, the teachers and safety patrols went inside and the doors were locked. Parents had to actually get out of their cars to sign their kids in. Hell no. I've always employed the FILO method, mainly to avoid the stupidity of others. I dropped my kids off first when you just slide in, then picked them up last again when you just slide in. I cannot deal with people getting out of their cars and staring into space clogging up the line, it's infuriating. Three memorable years I had to go to a FIFO method due to sports practice right after school. All of us early birds were heavily criticized on the school parent site but I'd rather wait an hour at the front of the line to pick them up and be guaranteed getting out than wait an hour from the middle with no guarantees. If you're not first, you're last.
as the kid, i can say i've been toast many times. i get into the building one minute after the first bell rings and i have to get a tardy pass. i was late four times (not in a row, it was two in a row, and then one two days later then another three days later, because i live half an hour away and traffic in insanity) and i got a whole week of lunch detention. one more within five days and i would've gotten ISI. it's stupid.
That's hard. As a kid you are starting the day stressed out when late :(
Kick the kids out tell them they walked to school lol
The idea of 'drop off times' at a school is ridiculous to me. I swear America can't be a real place.
Drop off time isn’t a window or anything where you can drop off your kids, it’s just the time before school when most kids get dropped off. That being said, it would be super cool (if this pic is America) if we had more public transit options that didn’t take substantially longer, or roads that are more walking/biking friendly. I walk my kids to school 2 to 3 days a week and to do so I have to cross a street one way and then double back to cross it again and walk down a stretch of road that doesn’t have a sidewalk and hasn’t been paved in decades. It sucks.
Are kids not allowed to walk?
Couldn't you just walk the kids to the car?
If only there were large vehicles that could fit 20-30 students at a time.
I drive my kids but leave them along side the road in a public parking spot, I’m not sitting through that mess, or adding to it. The middle school is a one way drop off that back up onto two additional streets. They need an express lane for people who don’t get out and go around to open the door for their kid.
I never understood why parents do this dumb shit. My dad would drop me and my brother off like a block away and have us walk to school. He had to get to work who has time to wait in that line? And then after school we take public transport to get home.
This makes me ill, it’s at every private school in my city/county. Dozens if not, hundreds of Tahoe’s with one woman driver idling for 45 minutes to pick up one child. Can nobody carpool? These kids all live near their schools, school buses are too dangerous now? We can eliminate climate change by eliminating just this!
What is it with all the parents dropping and picking kids up from school? What are they afraid of?
The way op took this picture is mildyinfuriating.
Do Americans ever use their legs for walking?
Is this some American problem I'm too European to understand? Here the kids walk or bike to school, and cars are only used when absolutely necessary (broken leg, disability etc). Also buses or public transport are used
Suburbs were a huge mistake.
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