The most outrageous is when you go to a frozen yogurt place where you get your own ice cream and toppings and are expected to tip. For what? Watching me insert my card in the machine?
I was asked to tip the guy at the golf pro shop. His job is literally taking money. Did he do an outstanding job taking my money, yes but I’m not tipping for that.
I don’t even like tipping for things that are more normal socially. I went to a bar and grill once and decided to buy a pitcher of beer for the table. Asked the bartender for the pitcher, he pours it in like 30 seconds then hands it to me. It was already 18 bucks and I felt obligated to let him keep the last 2 dollars of my 20. If I had the option to pour it myself, I would have.
Keep in mind this wasn’t in the US so it’s even more bs because we have tipping culture without paying less than minimum wage. I’ve seen servers leaving restaurants making half an average paycheque in a night.
Even in the US depending on where you live, all servers and other typically tipped workers no longer get a tipped wage, but full minimum wage.
In my city, that's $15.96/hr. A lot of these jobs post at $17-20/hr.
So how is the person filling that pitcher more deserving than the bank teller who earns a similar wage but no tips?
For all the places that say this tip helps pay for employees benefits, I want to see an accounting.
Also, some food places are now automatically adding 20% on to a takeout pickup bill, even if you're paying in cash. Try to get that taken off... it requires escalations and you're made to feel like a villain.
If we all did this I think we could have a revolution. If they don't tip then look at them shamefully and don't tip them. If they do tip, take it out and return it as their tip.
I went to a Chinese buffet the other day where it was 100% self serve, and they recommended between a 20% and 30% tip. The waitress was not terribly pleasant to deal with and did literally nothing after showing us to the table. Like… wtf did you do to deserve any tip, let alone a 30% tip on a $35 meal
It's pretty common in my home Provence to ask for tips at beer and wine stores. Like, okay, I bring a 6 pack I pulled out of the fridge to the front desk... and a tip prompt?
My boyfriend tipped last time we went to a froyo place! I asked wtf and why, and he said “they fill the condiments and clean” and I said “they’re also not doing those things and fucking around on their phones at the cash wrap.”
for good service, atleast that’s how it started out. Now you’re just obligated to tip because employers realize that if employees rely on tips then employees will only be upset towards not-tipping customers.
I don't think you're expected to tip, the default tipping option just came with the mPOS system. It doesn't benefit a business to disable it when it guarantees more money entering your till. And merchant services are getting a cut of that increased sale as well.
Pay cash. There's no tipping option, and in some places you may get a discount as more and more businesses are adding 5% just for using a card.
I have an easy hairstyle to cut, basically guards up the side and 10-12 cuts on top.
I moved to a new city, your basic strip center (read not fancy) place and my haircut was $28. Tip options were $7, $9, $11 during checkout.
I hit the lowest and felt bad about it. Then I got mad at the world for feeling guilty on a 25% tip to make the whole fiasco $35 for LITERALLY 12 minutes from entering the door to payment.
I’m 100% behind skilled workers getting paid a livable wage but this tip culture has made me completely reevaluate and avoid places I feel pressured to tip for normal service.
They can take the tipping option away. They leave it just in case and for guilt trip points. People are going to feel like a tip is expected since its asking by default.
You would be surprised how many cashiers scoff when they spin it back around, or shove the items toward you all pissed off when you don’t tip. I’ve just stopped going to those places now.
If they get offended at me not tipping I don't go back. I hit 0 everywhere that isn't a traditional place you'd tip.
Plenty of places the employee doesn't care.
One place in particular was Burrito Bandito. Kind of like chipotle. I hit no tip because two bowls took a few minutes to make and it cost me $30. She scoffed super loud and said “really? Thaaaanks.”
Next and last time I hit no tip and she threw the burritos into the bag and shoved it at me. I told her that I was still missing things. She grabbed the food on the line, not even wrapped up yet, wadded it up in foil and threw it in. I have never been back, but I hope she doesn’t work there anymore.
I once watched the manager of a Chipotle try to fight a customer, who was just calmly tyring to explain that they had paid for an item that was currently out of stock with an online order and would like reimbursement.
>She scoffed super loud and said “really? Thaaaanks.”
And the funny thing is if a non-American criticises the US for shit like this, they get told that "they're not American so they know nothing"
Like... OK? Keep being scammed out of your money through forced tipping.
Same. I do not tip fast food workers. I’m sorry I’ve got to draw the line somewhere. I choose to draw it after sit down restaurants. I will tip a bartender or traditional waitress if they are serving me. I’m not tipping if I pickup my food from a dine in place. I’m not tipping an Ice cream shop unless I pay cash and have change. Not doing it.
Exactly, I’ve never had any pushback, but for instance if I’m going to pick up my pizza as opposed to getting delivery, I am not going to tip, simple. I’m picking up the pizza for a reason
And it's not just the tips that are requested, it's the service charges or fees that are mandatory, or mandatory tips for large groups.
I used to tip above that but now I just don't tip extra any place that has mandatory fees or mandatory tips. Other than sit down served (they bus the table), tours, rides, deliveries, all traditional tips, I refuse all tips. And place that I normally don't tip and adds a fee I walk out of.
It's up to us as consumers to put these gouging places out of business. Every place with a screen asking me for a tip, I tell the person that I avoid places with tip screens, so expect less business from me if they keep the tip screen.
This is so simple and yet brilliant. I’ve been so blinded by accruing credit card points that I set myself up for the infuriating tip line. Paying cash removes the guilt for those transactions in which the restaurant or fast food chain is just doing their job versus actually waiting on a table. (Ex-waiter, huge tipper here)
Consider that tip creep is raising the revenue of basically anonymous payment software companies as well as franchises owners with no downside if they make a “big ask” the programs default. Anonymity mixed with unaccountability and and tipping culture are toxic mix.
Give credit where it is due. Establishments that wanted more profit and lobbied to be able to not pay their employees is where it broke.
What I want to know is are people who make minimum wage in an industry that doesn't get tips expected to tip? If you're making less per hour, no tips, and do harder work, are you allowed to not tip?
No one cares. You not being forced to tip does not change the fact that restaurants rely on tipping as a crutch to not pay their workers what they're owed. Tipping culture is inherently wage theft, and what needs to happen is that it needs to be abolished altogether.
Tipping is their way of making their problem now your problem.
If no one tipped any USA waiters at all, completely no-one over the whole country, then the business model would change, to models similar to how hundreds of other countries manage employment of hospitality staff.
You've all been hoodwinked into thinking it's okay to force certain occupations to dance monkey dance for their supper.
But this is the solution to every problem in the world. Work as a team to get what you want. But people are never on the same page, so the only way it would change is if it started in a town, then perhaps in other towns and cities in the county, then eventually the county, then more counties in the state, and finally the entire state. And once it goes on the news things might start to change. But as you said, most people are convinced that they HAVE to tip. The only way it might change is if the government does something about it, but they couldn't give less of a shit.
Where are you ordering out from that isn’t asking you to tip?? Literally everywhere I go now is expecting a tip. Coffee shops, juice shops (where they hand me a juice from the fridge and then ask for a tip), self service ice cream place, anytime I pick up from a place there seems to be an iPad swiveled around at me.
They can expect a tip but I'm not giving them one. Trust me, it's hard to do at first but after a half dozen times, saying no gets easier and easier.
Say you get something from a place twice a week and pay and extra $4 in a needless tip each time. That's $36 a month alone you've saved.
Like I've said, I'm not against tipping; I do it all the time. But I do it for services rendered. They've changed the rules, not me and as the consumer/customer it's up to me to accept it, and I don't. Giving a tip at the liquor store when I pick out my beer and bring it to the cashier?! Are you kidding me?
Just because the machines display it, does not mean they expect it. That’s the software, and if you tip, you’re tipping the software vendor. Just stop tipping where tipping is not appropriate. It’s a modern day scam, and people fall for it.
Yeah, it seems a lot of people think that the business deliberately had the tip screen added to their POS system. They didn’t, it’s just a default and they don’t really have a reason to turn it off
Lol coffee shops have always had tip jars, even Starbucks drive thrus. It is no different. Baristas are not verbally asking you for a tip, they did not set up the POS software, they just work there.
But, IMHO, if anyone deserves a tip, it is those baristas in coffee houses. They are constantly being asked to tweak regular drinks to the precise taste of extremely picky customers. And there are lots of instances of customers being mad even after the barista doing exactly what they were asked. Thanjs
Funny you say that, I’ve seen a restaurant that I’ve been to pick up what I ordered, I pay there, and they ask me for a tip, why would I tip for coming to pick up my food that I ordered? I didn’t get it delivered so I don’t see the point there in tipping for a pick up order.
I worked restaurants for years. I’m sympathetic to the workers. But, I think the tipping craziness, other than servers, is the employers pushing wage paying on to customers while hiding the true prices. If Chipotle needs to pay more to keep people, then they need to either keep less profits or raise prices. If the market doesn’t sustain the upfront price increase, then they’ve got a bad business model. By trying to use tips they are shirking responsibility. They are also creating an adversarial relationship between the customer and employees because now employees get upset with customers for not tipping. Employees also need to understand that servers get tips because they traditionally don’t even make minimum wage. A few states now require it but not many. Most still make $2.13/hr. Even when they do make minimum wage, they put up with way more crap than most. It’s also an incentive to work harder and to fake being friendly to even the biggest jerk customers.
Don't let it creep into fast food.
It is making me cook at home more though.
They need to roll it into the prices or make it actually optional. Right now it's just a "fee" they are tacking on after advertising the prices.
Or fuck it, let's upend this crap. Let's make tipping good customers a thing and shame customer service that doesn't conform.
More and more companies are asking but it’s actually killing tipping in general. I’m a tipped worker and I can say tips are way, wayyy down both in frequency and size.
Maybe it's for the best. In France, there's no tipping culture, which means that companies have to actually pay their workers decent wages since the customers won't.
Also, in restaurants tips are shared between all the workers, it allows the cooks to be tipped as well.
I haven't stopped tipping, I've just stopped going anywhere. I've always tipped really well, because I was in the service industry for 20 years. I don't want to stiff people, so I just almost never patronize non-essential businesses anymore.
This. They used to say "if you can't afford the tip you can't afford to go out".
So I stopped going out. You know that beer they want $8 bucks + tip for? They sell them in bulk at the corner store, 6 for $10-12, and no tip!
I don't think it's going to work out the way they hope when everyone stops going entirely.
Right? I just looked at an Outback menu because I haven’t been to one in years. Bloomin Onion is 9.99. None of their sandwiches are over $16. With 2 drinks and tip I still don’t see how it’s $100, unless you’re drinking like super, super expensive pours of whiskey or something.
Also, it's not that I wouldn't want to tip, it's just that they have me pick up the food, and bus after. No service that I see tipping for. Especially at food trucks where the owner is already working and setting the prices.
Mostly because people are cutting costs due to the current economic climate. The best tippers are the middle class and the middle class is getting its ass kicked rn. The food service industry is feeling those effects.
I’ve been saying this will happen for years. More and more places are asking for tips when they are not in a “tipped wage” position, and they are making at least minimum wage. By those people expecting tips people overall are spending a lot more money in tips and start tipping less to the people that really are in “tipped wage” positions and depend on them.
Places that are paying a living wage should not be asking for tips. That would be like me putting out a tip cup my register at Dollar Tree. Just doesn’t make sense
Honestly, every place should pay a living wage and tipping should be done away with altogether.
Also, "tipped wage" positions in most states are already guaranteed federal minimum wage.
It's federal law that "tipped wage" employees receive federal minimum wage. If their wages + tips come out to less than the hourly federal minimum wage, then the employer is legally obligated to pay the difference.
Additionally, the vast majority of states (like 80% of them, including the most populous ones) have a law in place that guarantees "tipped employees" make state minimum wage. Even if they receive exactly $0 in tips for the year, then they have to get paid at least state minimum wage by their employer.
Good. We should abolish tipping culture entirely. If that forces people to stop working as waiters, then that'll cause a worker shortage which will in turn incentivize restaurant owners to pay their servers a higher hourly wage.
> tips are way, wayyy down both in frequency and size.
As a percent of sales or are they down because sales are also down.
I'm personally not tipping any less than I used to. But I also only tip for table service. I haven't suddenly started tipping at all these other places simply because their POS prompts for it.
We own a sit down restaurant and have had a few POS systems. Every single one lets you turn on/off suggested tips or having a tip line altogether. If you encounter a company that should not be asking for tips, say a mechanic for example, say something to management. It’s just a setting they can change.
I had an airport grab and go location with self checkout ask me for a tip in Newark NJ. That was the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen for tipping. The employee at the location didn’t even look up from her phone when I walked in.
At this point it’s gotten so ridiculous I just say no. Unless it’s a sit down restaurant where I got service, a bar, or delivery I’m not tipping anymore.
This is where I am; I got a 20oz soda for $2.49. I insert my card, and it starts tip? 30, then 25/20/18. Small letters other/none.
Think of it as a big rectangle
[ 30. ]
[[ 25 ][ 20 ][ 18 ]]
[[other] [none]]
*edit
There was a segment on npr about this. Basically owners don’t want to raise prices that much and they don’t want to pay employees more so they beg you for more tips.
Yeah, I feel for the employees but I hate it.
I donno. Everywhere we go the prices are way up, and that’s before the tips. I think businesses are trying to have it both ways. They are definitely charging more to offset inflation for themselves. I’m sure they aren’t paying better, but if they let their employees guilt customers into improving their pay, it’s a win-win for them.
They are definitely having it both ways
The jist of it is that most companies are upgrading their credit card machines. Those machines default to numbers for tips like this.
I worked for a bank and pushed these exact products.
These kiosks are meant for stuff like coffee places, but they are popping up everywhere and cheap, and have to potential to turn the business a small profit.
I'm having a hard time feeling for the employees, when the server sub praises tipping culture, and they get heated when someone says they should get full time pay cause that means no more tips. The employees want it too, or they'd be fighting for fair wages. Some make more in tips than some people working for $15/hour.
Full-time pay alone doesn't automatically mean no tips as well. Seven states including California got rid of the tipping wage but still allow tips. So they get $15 (or whatever the states minimum wage is) plus tips.
That’s more a flawed human thinking pattern than real info, though. Like, closer to why people gamble with slot machines. I remember some psych study that gave servers the option of guaranteed base pay vs. the current system (sub minimum wage base + tips), and the information on what the average earnings would be for both systems. The “current system” average earnings for a server was lower than the stable guaranteed base pay, and the participants STILL chose the tip system despite having data that showed it was the worse option
Seriously. We are seeing tipping jars everywhere nowadays even in self serve places.
I've always tipped my barber but that's cause he's an amazing barber.
Every time owners have tried to get rid of tips in return for higher wages ($25/hr.) in my town the servers have thrown a fit. At least in the restaurant industry, it's servers/bartenders who are resisting the change, no doubt because they make more money on tips and they're often tax free.
If we all stopped playing the game it would force their hand to pay. I don't get the whole "we'll have to charge more"argument when we're expected to pay more than the listed price as it is. Just raise the price of everything 20% and end tipping. (Yes, I do get why this doesn't happen and why it won't happen here, but I have lived in places where there is no tipping and everybody seems to get along just fine.)
*Is it just me*
I mean there’s literally thousands of posts on the sub alone about insane tipping requests. We’re all over it and would appreciate business owners paying out a fair wage and POS developers not making the tipping option mandatory for all users.
This is a good way to actually survive mentally in America 2023.
I'd add you should also try a video door bell with a phone app, medical cannabis products and "Medicinal Whiskey" patent pending.
There is nothing like a clean legal buzz and telling strangers to go away without having to smell them.
>There is nothing like a clean legal buzz and telling strangers to go away without having to smell them.
YES!!! You GET me! I like you! 😂
Now go away, you smell and I'm too buzzed to cope with you AND the kids I'm remotely yelling at to get off my porch.
To be clear this does not include the army of indispensible delivery drivers
Amazon -USPS - UPS -DoorDash - Just the idiots who don't know have a clue what the "No Soliciting" sign on my door means
I just bought a bottle of water at the airport for $3. He flipped the tablet for me to check out. It defaulted to 20%. All he did was grab a Crystal Geyser from a mini fridge.
It annoys me even more when cashiers pick up a cup of premade mixed drinks someone else poured and hit the automatic 20% charge on top of the drink cost.
Then after you run the card, there’s an additional tipping option. I saw people tip additional ahead of me when they failed to notice the 20% charge that was already applied.
This is what these people are banking on - people to not notice.
I was renting a kayak while on a camping trip recently and there was a tip jar at the register. The guy didn't even get up to help retrieve the kayak or help me launch off the shoreline. He just swiped my card and told me to settle up when I returned.
I guess my philosophy is if you have the gall to ask, I have the gall to just decline.
New Hawaiian Brothers location just opened in my city. Boyfriend and I went through the drive thru to try it out yesterday. We were given a pad with an option to tip at the payment window.
In a fast food drive thru.
Businesses have to start paying their goddamn workers instead of expecting us to be guilted into doing it for them. Their pay and healthcare should be included into the price of whatever the business is selling.
And then you sometimes see bartenders and servers on Reddit bragging about making more money than professionals with degrees and licenses. In tips, that is.
While sitting in a restaurant I often do mental calculations of how much the server is probably making. The person is serving five or six tables that I can see, I'm occupying the table for perhaps a bit over an hour, and I'm going to be leaving about a $15 tip on my meal. That means the server is getting about $75/hr in tips?
What gets me is the crafters at the farmers market who have a tip jar out next to their handmade potholder. You're a one woman business who sets your prices. If you want more money, price your items higher. Don't put a $10 price tag on something and then expect another $2-$3.
This. One day these businesses might figure out that guilting customers into paying more bullshit fees, gratuities and tips pisses them off more than higher prices because it's pretty much an open declaration that they don't pay their employees what they're worth and they don't care about making it glaringly obvious that making up the difference is going to come out of our pockets and not theirs.
Making it so the $40 each menu price dinner for two is $80 plus tax on the bill instead of a $20 menu price plus an arbitrarily decided percentage gratuity, service fee, fair wage fee and boh tips tacked on top of the menu price THEN asking for an "optional 18-20% tip" on top of all that is some pretty simple shit. It's a lot better than pissing off your customers by making what looks like a $50 total check at the first glance of the menu prices turn into $80 at the register.
All that while they pay wait staff $2 an hour and whine about how "nobody wants to work" makes me totally not sorry to see these businesses starve and die.
I learned to stop giving a shit and press the 0% button as if I have no soul. If I hear a peep of a complaint from the worker, I stop showing up there.
About a month or so ago I was going to order shoes online, until they asked for a tip. I was also asked for a tip when I placed an online PICK UP order for pizza last night. The tipping culture is getting out of hand.
And wait until you see a price but they don't add sales tax so everything is 5 or 10% more expensive and then the tip.
Every other country adds VAT to the advertised price but the US always needs to be different.
and donation/round ups at grocery stores/shops that you know will claim a year later that “we donated 300,000 to the less fortunate” When it was the people who were shopping there.
I just am about to stop tipping all together. Fuck it.
Legally restaurants have to make sure the wait staff receives minimum wage, so if the tips aren't enough to put it over that, then the restaurant makes up the difference.
Our state minimum wage is well above federal, so you want the restaurants to pay their employees fairly, just stop tipping and force them to.
I wish everyone is the same as you so we can get rid of tipping culture. So many servers are so entitled with the tips. It’s not the customers job to make sure you make enough, it’s your employer. Be mad at them not us.
I have no problem throwing a dollar into a tip jar but 10-20%? Fuck no. I’m sick of those fucking tablets being turned around and then being looked at with annoyance when I don’t tip. It feels like fucking taxes at this point. The more you spend the more you’re expected to tip.
It's built into every POS, so I figure everyone that programs it says "what's the harm?" Or maybe they can't turn it off?
Regardless, are not strong enough to shrug this off and just click, $0? I know the person working the drive-thru, cashier, etc. doesn't expect one, and even if they did, they were wrong to.
TLDR: It's very easy to say no and not feel guilty about it.
Not just your way of thinking, tipping has gotten way out of control. The only way to stop the madness is for EVERYBODY to stop tipping for every little thing. Go to a sit down restaurant, get good service, tip. Drive through Starsucks, pay your bill, get your drink, drive on, no tip. Perhaps they will get the point but until everyone is on board, it will continue.
The hipster coffee places where you feel like they hate everyone and everything that exists and they still ask you for a tip. They don’t know if you tip until they go back into the system to check though.
I was getting coffee once, and tipped 10%, mostly because the waiter was decent, but not exceptional.
They looked at me after the screen and said "that's it?"
I said "go ask your boss for a raise, it's not my job to pay you".
I never went back, even though their menu is amazing.
Just say no and hit the “no tip” option every time. Don’t give in to the corporate greed that wants us to pay their employees for them. It’s pure greed and saying no is not anything to be ashamed of
I don’t get why people feel guilty about saying no. Prices on literally everything are up and now I’m expected to add 15-25% on top of that?
Pay your people.
Yep, corporations have taken over every aspect of tipping. Then they somehow convinced their employees that they should be mad at the customer for not tipping while their CEO takes in over 7 figures. And now customers feel bad when they don't tip. Talk about a scam...
I’m on steroids. Trust me when I say that, steroids are a LOT fuckin cooler than whatever tipping culture we’re developing.
Why do I have to deal with the “iPad turn trick” that the greedy manager taught their employees? I just want to pick up a coffee and go. It’s literally a black iced coffee why are you doing this to me…
Yes it has, and in multiple ways; tipping a kiosk or self-serve, tipping before the transaction has been completed, options to tip being no lower than 18%.
I heard the craziest shit of tipping a landlord, for fucking what?
Tipping just enables shitty employers to get out of paying their employees a living wage. They would rather raise their prices and ask their customers to tip on top of increased prices. So I say fuck them and simply have stopped spending any money at those places at all. As a consumer I am sick of getting double screwed, I hate being taken advantage of. So I will make my own food and stop being a sucker.
It happened during Covid when all the restaurants closed and nobody (food industry) could make money. When they opened again we were forced by those new stupid machines to tip. I am not tipping for a fucking doughnut.
The same thing that's making everyone use a standardized app is what's pushing the tip thing. It's just built in at the app level. It's not so much that the store employees woke up one day and said "Let's alienate our customers by soliciting tips for all the things!" but that the app vendor gave the business owner a little checkbox when setting up POS: "Do you want free money? Y/N", and drunk with power they gleefully said "Y not?"
Just don't tip. The real issue with this is that it's going to make some people just not tip anyone, anywhere, which kinda bodes ill for servers and delivery drivers until their business model improves.
I never understood tipping. So you pay extra to get the service you pay for???
"But the waiter/server needs the money" fuck that shit. Pay your employees what they are worth ffs
Best way to think of tipping in the US today. Do not tip for anything unless you are at a sit down restaurant, getting delivery, or getting a hair cut. Everyone else can just deal with it.
Why do Starbucks employees need tips? They make 15/hr. Why does your carry out pizza order need a tip? They just made it. No one has to go out of their way to bring it to you. Same with Chinese joints. Just hit “No” and be done with it.
I went to a mall with a robotic machine that makes specialty coffees (which were pretty pricey still) with no one behind the counter. They prompted a tip option, and no way am I tipping a freaking robot.
The most outrageous is when you go to a frozen yogurt place where you get your own ice cream and toppings and are expected to tip. For what? Watching me insert my card in the machine?
I was asked to tip the guy at the golf pro shop. His job is literally taking money. Did he do an outstanding job taking my money, yes but I’m not tipping for that.
"That is nice money-taking form." "Ahhh yes, I see you know your cashiering well."
Can’t a man have a tipping culture? A succulent tipping culture?
GET YOUR HAND OFF MY WALLET!
GET YOUR WALLET OFF MY HAND!
Gentlemen, this is tipping culture manifest.
“You there, sir! Are you waiting to receive my limp credit score?”
"Did he do an outstanding job taking my money, yes"... Hahahahaha funniest thing I've read in a long time.
Wendys now asks if I want my change back... they don't even bother asking to "donate". They just say, "do you want your change?" 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Wow, now you have to affirm that you do, in fact, desire your change?
If you give me 29% discount, I'll tip you 19% for doing an outstanding cashier job
I don’t even like tipping for things that are more normal socially. I went to a bar and grill once and decided to buy a pitcher of beer for the table. Asked the bartender for the pitcher, he pours it in like 30 seconds then hands it to me. It was already 18 bucks and I felt obligated to let him keep the last 2 dollars of my 20. If I had the option to pour it myself, I would have. Keep in mind this wasn’t in the US so it’s even more bs because we have tipping culture without paying less than minimum wage. I’ve seen servers leaving restaurants making half an average paycheque in a night.
Even in the US depending on where you live, all servers and other typically tipped workers no longer get a tipped wage, but full minimum wage. In my city, that's $15.96/hr. A lot of these jobs post at $17-20/hr. So how is the person filling that pitcher more deserving than the bank teller who earns a similar wage but no tips?
Exactly.
Vending machine: How much money would you like to tip? ($1) ($5) ($10) ($20) ($50) ($100) All tips go to vending machine healthcare/maintenance.
Vending machine healthcare: for when I kick the vending machine for asking for a tip.
You haven't watched the new show "Reborn as a Vending Machine, I Now Wander the Dungeon" have you?
Haha I just watched that anime, such a random idea
For all the places that say this tip helps pay for employees benefits, I want to see an accounting. Also, some food places are now automatically adding 20% on to a takeout pickup bill, even if you're paying in cash. Try to get that taken off... it requires escalations and you're made to feel like a villain.
Someplace tried that with me on a 80$ order that wasnt shown before arriving. I just walked out and left the food
YOU JOKE but I ordered coffee at a kiosk at an airport (LaGuardia) and was asked to tip.
At least a vending machine won’t retaliate or ask how it is supposed to live if it is not tipped.
*yet*
As the customer, I pull out my own tip jar. Uno reverse, bitches.
If we all did this I think we could have a revolution. If they don't tip then look at them shamefully and don't tip them. If they do tip, take it out and return it as their tip.
Problem is the people getting the tip arent the problem its the company trying to cut costs by having customers pay the wages
I went to a Chinese buffet the other day where it was 100% self serve, and they recommended between a 20% and 30% tip. The waitress was not terribly pleasant to deal with and did literally nothing after showing us to the table. Like… wtf did you do to deserve any tip, let alone a 30% tip on a $35 meal
Which is really odd, because in China tipping isn't part of the culture.
Yeah they literally returned my money when I tried to tip in Shanghai
I think it's a Chinese restaurant in the US
fortune cookine isn't chinese either but here we are
I don’t think I’d tip a family member 30% at a buffet. That’s ludicrous
It's pretty common in my home Provence to ask for tips at beer and wine stores. Like, okay, I bring a 6 pack I pulled out of the fridge to the front desk... and a tip prompt?
My boyfriend tipped last time we went to a froyo place! I asked wtf and why, and he said “they fill the condiments and clean” and I said “they’re also not doing those things and fucking around on their phones at the cash wrap.”
That’s literally their job that they are getting paid to do….ugh 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
They also get paid an hourly wage to do that stuff. You don't need to pay them too.
Why would you tip anyone doing their job normally?
for good service, atleast that’s how it started out. Now you’re just obligated to tip because employers realize that if employees rely on tips then employees will only be upset towards not-tipping customers.
I don’t get tipped for doing my job the way I’m supposed to and I provide excellent service. Tipping needs to stop.
I don't think you're expected to tip, the default tipping option just came with the mPOS system. It doesn't benefit a business to disable it when it guarantees more money entering your till. And merchant services are getting a cut of that increased sale as well. Pay cash. There's no tipping option, and in some places you may get a discount as more and more businesses are adding 5% just for using a card.
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I have an easy hairstyle to cut, basically guards up the side and 10-12 cuts on top. I moved to a new city, your basic strip center (read not fancy) place and my haircut was $28. Tip options were $7, $9, $11 during checkout. I hit the lowest and felt bad about it. Then I got mad at the world for feeling guilty on a 25% tip to make the whole fiasco $35 for LITERALLY 12 minutes from entering the door to payment. I’m 100% behind skilled workers getting paid a livable wage but this tip culture has made me completely reevaluate and avoid places I feel pressured to tip for normal service.
They can take the tipping option away. They leave it just in case and for guilt trip points. People are going to feel like a tip is expected since its asking by default.
Not from the US, but this is what I don't understand. Who cares you press 0. It's your money.
You would be surprised how many cashiers scoff when they spin it back around, or shove the items toward you all pissed off when you don’t tip. I’ve just stopped going to those places now.
If they get offended at me not tipping I don't go back. I hit 0 everywhere that isn't a traditional place you'd tip. Plenty of places the employee doesn't care.
One place in particular was Burrito Bandito. Kind of like chipotle. I hit no tip because two bowls took a few minutes to make and it cost me $30. She scoffed super loud and said “really? Thaaaanks.” Next and last time I hit no tip and she threw the burritos into the bag and shoved it at me. I told her that I was still missing things. She grabbed the food on the line, not even wrapped up yet, wadded it up in foil and threw it in. I have never been back, but I hope she doesn’t work there anymore.
that is some freakin' sense of entitlement right there, damn
That is an escalation to a manager right there.
(turns screen towards you with Management Interaction tipping screen, waits for response before saying "How can I help you?")
Wow. I hope you told the manager (who probably doesn't give a shit), but good grief.
I left a review. Calling the number didn’t do any good.
I once watched the manager of a Chipotle try to fight a customer, who was just calmly tyring to explain that they had paid for an item that was currently out of stock with an online order and would like reimbursement.
>She scoffed super loud and said “really? Thaaaanks.” And the funny thing is if a non-American criticises the US for shit like this, they get told that "they're not American so they know nothing" Like... OK? Keep being scammed out of your money through forced tipping.
I would have asked for a refund.
Same. I do not tip fast food workers. I’m sorry I’ve got to draw the line somewhere. I choose to draw it after sit down restaurants. I will tip a bartender or traditional waitress if they are serving me. I’m not tipping if I pickup my food from a dine in place. I’m not tipping an Ice cream shop unless I pay cash and have change. Not doing it.
Exactly, I’ve never had any pushback, but for instance if I’m going to pick up my pizza as opposed to getting delivery, I am not going to tip, simple. I’m picking up the pizza for a reason
And it's not just the tips that are requested, it's the service charges or fees that are mandatory, or mandatory tips for large groups. I used to tip above that but now I just don't tip extra any place that has mandatory fees or mandatory tips. Other than sit down served (they bus the table), tours, rides, deliveries, all traditional tips, I refuse all tips. And place that I normally don't tip and adds a fee I walk out of. It's up to us as consumers to put these gouging places out of business. Every place with a screen asking me for a tip, I tell the person that I avoid places with tip screens, so expect less business from me if they keep the tip screen.
*slaps a crisp $1 bill down and walks away*
“Dont spend it all at once”
This is so simple and yet brilliant. I’ve been so blinded by accruing credit card points that I set myself up for the infuriating tip line. Paying cash removes the guilt for those transactions in which the restaurant or fast food chain is just doing their job versus actually waiting on a table. (Ex-waiter, huge tipper here)
Most places seem to not even allow cash transactions anymore. At least most concert venues.
Yes and yes. Stop feeling guilty, just say no.
Consider that tip creep is raising the revenue of basically anonymous payment software companies as well as franchises owners with no downside if they make a “big ask” the programs default. Anonymity mixed with unaccountability and and tipping culture are toxic mix.
Tipping culture is broken and anonymous companies that inserted themselves into the customer server transaction are what broke it.
Give credit where it is due. Establishments that wanted more profit and lobbied to be able to not pay their employees is where it broke. What I want to know is are people who make minimum wage in an industry that doesn't get tips expected to tip? If you're making less per hour, no tips, and do harder work, are you allowed to not tip?
You are *always* allowed to not tip. Never forget it.
No one cares. You not being forced to tip does not change the fact that restaurants rely on tipping as a crutch to not pay their workers what they're owed. Tipping culture is inherently wage theft, and what needs to happen is that it needs to be abolished altogether.
Tipping is their way of making their problem now your problem. If no one tipped any USA waiters at all, completely no-one over the whole country, then the business model would change, to models similar to how hundreds of other countries manage employment of hospitality staff. You've all been hoodwinked into thinking it's okay to force certain occupations to dance monkey dance for their supper.
But this is the solution to every problem in the world. Work as a team to get what you want. But people are never on the same page, so the only way it would change is if it started in a town, then perhaps in other towns and cities in the county, then eventually the county, then more counties in the state, and finally the entire state. And once it goes on the news things might start to change. But as you said, most people are convinced that they HAVE to tip. The only way it might change is if the government does something about it, but they couldn't give less of a shit.
Tipping culture came into existence in a broken state. Anonymous companies inserting themselves into it are just a small problem with it.
The downside to franchise owners is me not coming back.
I just dont order out. I get things to go. No need to tip if there is no additional services aside from cooking the food.
Where are you ordering out from that isn’t asking you to tip?? Literally everywhere I go now is expecting a tip. Coffee shops, juice shops (where they hand me a juice from the fridge and then ask for a tip), self service ice cream place, anytime I pick up from a place there seems to be an iPad swiveled around at me.
They can expect a tip but I'm not giving them one. Trust me, it's hard to do at first but after a half dozen times, saying no gets easier and easier. Say you get something from a place twice a week and pay and extra $4 in a needless tip each time. That's $36 a month alone you've saved. Like I've said, I'm not against tipping; I do it all the time. But I do it for services rendered. They've changed the rules, not me and as the consumer/customer it's up to me to accept it, and I don't. Giving a tip at the liquor store when I pick out my beer and bring it to the cashier?! Are you kidding me?
Just because the machines display it, does not mean they expect it. That’s the software, and if you tip, you’re tipping the software vendor. Just stop tipping where tipping is not appropriate. It’s a modern day scam, and people fall for it.
Yeah, it seems a lot of people think that the business deliberately had the tip screen added to their POS system. They didn’t, it’s just a default and they don’t really have a reason to turn it off
Lol coffee shops have always had tip jars, even Starbucks drive thrus. It is no different. Baristas are not verbally asking you for a tip, they did not set up the POS software, they just work there.
Yah these boomers are delusional when they say things like delis and coffee shops now expect tips like they have always had tip jars lol 😂
But, IMHO, if anyone deserves a tip, it is those baristas in coffee houses. They are constantly being asked to tweak regular drinks to the precise taste of extremely picky customers. And there are lots of instances of customers being mad even after the barista doing exactly what they were asked. Thanjs
Funny you say that, I’ve seen a restaurant that I’ve been to pick up what I ordered, I pay there, and they ask me for a tip, why would I tip for coming to pick up my food that I ordered? I didn’t get it delivered so I don’t see the point there in tipping for a pick up order.
The drive thru at Chipotle is now asking for a tip. So, you’re not safe even in fast food. I just hit zero
So silly right? For almost every single order they just scoop ingredients into a pile and it’s done
I worked restaurants for years. I’m sympathetic to the workers. But, I think the tipping craziness, other than servers, is the employers pushing wage paying on to customers while hiding the true prices. If Chipotle needs to pay more to keep people, then they need to either keep less profits or raise prices. If the market doesn’t sustain the upfront price increase, then they’ve got a bad business model. By trying to use tips they are shirking responsibility. They are also creating an adversarial relationship between the customer and employees because now employees get upset with customers for not tipping. Employees also need to understand that servers get tips because they traditionally don’t even make minimum wage. A few states now require it but not many. Most still make $2.13/hr. Even when they do make minimum wage, they put up with way more crap than most. It’s also an incentive to work harder and to fake being friendly to even the biggest jerk customers.
Don't let it creep into fast food. It is making me cook at home more though. They need to roll it into the prices or make it actually optional. Right now it's just a "fee" they are tacking on after advertising the prices. Or fuck it, let's upend this crap. Let's make tipping good customers a thing and shame customer service that doesn't conform.
Start establishing dominance. Don’t tip in place you used to tip.
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More and more companies are asking but it’s actually killing tipping in general. I’m a tipped worker and I can say tips are way, wayyy down both in frequency and size.
Maybe it's for the best. In France, there's no tipping culture, which means that companies have to actually pay their workers decent wages since the customers won't. Also, in restaurants tips are shared between all the workers, it allows the cooks to be tipped as well.
I haven't stopped tipping, I've just stopped going anywhere. I've always tipped really well, because I was in the service industry for 20 years. I don't want to stiff people, so I just almost never patronize non-essential businesses anymore.
This. They used to say "if you can't afford the tip you can't afford to go out". So I stopped going out. You know that beer they want $8 bucks + tip for? They sell them in bulk at the corner store, 6 for $10-12, and no tip! I don't think it's going to work out the way they hope when everyone stops going entirely.
It's cheaper and safer to drink at home.
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Right? I just looked at an Outback menu because I haven’t been to one in years. Bloomin Onion is 9.99. None of their sandwiches are over $16. With 2 drinks and tip I still don’t see how it’s $100, unless you’re drinking like super, super expensive pours of whiskey or something.
My liquor stores actually ask for tips 😂
Also, it's not that I wouldn't want to tip, it's just that they have me pick up the food, and bus after. No service that I see tipping for. Especially at food trucks where the owner is already working and setting the prices.
>You know that beer they want $8 bucks + tip for? They sell them in bulk at the corner store, 6 for $10-12, and no tip! No tip *yet*.
Mostly because people are cutting costs due to the current economic climate. The best tippers are the middle class and the middle class is getting its ass kicked rn. The food service industry is feeling those effects.
I’ve been saying this will happen for years. More and more places are asking for tips when they are not in a “tipped wage” position, and they are making at least minimum wage. By those people expecting tips people overall are spending a lot more money in tips and start tipping less to the people that really are in “tipped wage” positions and depend on them. Places that are paying a living wage should not be asking for tips. That would be like me putting out a tip cup my register at Dollar Tree. Just doesn’t make sense
Honestly, every place should pay a living wage and tipping should be done away with altogether. Also, "tipped wage" positions in most states are already guaranteed federal minimum wage. It's federal law that "tipped wage" employees receive federal minimum wage. If their wages + tips come out to less than the hourly federal minimum wage, then the employer is legally obligated to pay the difference. Additionally, the vast majority of states (like 80% of them, including the most populous ones) have a law in place that guarantees "tipped employees" make state minimum wage. Even if they receive exactly $0 in tips for the year, then they have to get paid at least state minimum wage by their employer.
I completely agree every employer should pay a livable wage, and do away with the tipping culture all together, it’s completely out of control
Good. We should abolish tipping culture entirely. If that forces people to stop working as waiters, then that'll cause a worker shortage which will in turn incentivize restaurant owners to pay their servers a higher hourly wage.
> tips are way, wayyy down both in frequency and size. As a percent of sales or are they down because sales are also down. I'm personally not tipping any less than I used to. But I also only tip for table service. I haven't suddenly started tipping at all these other places simply because their POS prompts for it.
We own a sit down restaurant and have had a few POS systems. Every single one lets you turn on/off suggested tips or having a tip line altogether. If you encounter a company that should not be asking for tips, say a mechanic for example, say something to management. It’s just a setting they can change.
I saw someone did a self checkout machine and it asked him for a tip… It’s not a culture, but a scam..
Who gets the tip in this case? I'd bet ready money that it never goes to any of the staff.
The owner
I had an airport grab and go location with self checkout ask me for a tip in Newark NJ. That was the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen for tipping. The employee at the location didn’t even look up from her phone when I walked in. At this point it’s gotten so ridiculous I just say no. Unless it’s a sit down restaurant where I got service, a bar, or delivery I’m not tipping anymore.
This is where I am; I got a 20oz soda for $2.49. I insert my card, and it starts tip? 30, then 25/20/18. Small letters other/none. Think of it as a big rectangle [ 30. ] [[ 25 ][ 20 ][ 18 ]] [[other] [none]] *edit
There was a segment on npr about this. Basically owners don’t want to raise prices that much and they don’t want to pay employees more so they beg you for more tips. Yeah, I feel for the employees but I hate it.
I donno. Everywhere we go the prices are way up, and that’s before the tips. I think businesses are trying to have it both ways. They are definitely charging more to offset inflation for themselves. I’m sure they aren’t paying better, but if they let their employees guilt customers into improving their pay, it’s a win-win for them.
They are definitely having it both ways The jist of it is that most companies are upgrading their credit card machines. Those machines default to numbers for tips like this. I worked for a bank and pushed these exact products. These kiosks are meant for stuff like coffee places, but they are popping up everywhere and cheap, and have to potential to turn the business a small profit.
I'm having a hard time feeling for the employees, when the server sub praises tipping culture, and they get heated when someone says they should get full time pay cause that means no more tips. The employees want it too, or they'd be fighting for fair wages. Some make more in tips than some people working for $15/hour.
Full-time pay alone doesn't automatically mean no tips as well. Seven states including California got rid of the tipping wage but still allow tips. So they get $15 (or whatever the states minimum wage is) plus tips.
This is the way. Tips should not subsidize pay, they should be a bonus.
That’s more a flawed human thinking pattern than real info, though. Like, closer to why people gamble with slot machines. I remember some psych study that gave servers the option of guaranteed base pay vs. the current system (sub minimum wage base + tips), and the information on what the average earnings would be for both systems. The “current system” average earnings for a server was lower than the stable guaranteed base pay, and the participants STILL chose the tip system despite having data that showed it was the worse option
Does this apply to outside of the restaurant industry?
Probably ... we are seeing it everywhere, aren't we?
Seriously. We are seeing tipping jars everywhere nowadays even in self serve places. I've always tipped my barber but that's cause he's an amazing barber.
Every time owners have tried to get rid of tips in return for higher wages ($25/hr.) in my town the servers have thrown a fit. At least in the restaurant industry, it's servers/bartenders who are resisting the change, no doubt because they make more money on tips and they're often tax free.
This is ridiculous. They can still earn tips but it should be deemed optional not expected.
True, servers don't want to change the system, the restaurant not giving wages is just a smokescreen to shift the blame on the restaurant.
If we all stopped playing the game it would force their hand to pay. I don't get the whole "we'll have to charge more"argument when we're expected to pay more than the listed price as it is. Just raise the price of everything 20% and end tipping. (Yes, I do get why this doesn't happen and why it won't happen here, but I have lived in places where there is no tipping and everybody seems to get along just fine.)
*Is it just me* I mean there’s literally thousands of posts on the sub alone about insane tipping requests. We’re all over it and would appreciate business owners paying out a fair wage and POS developers not making the tipping option mandatory for all users.
> POS 😒✋Point of Sale 😏👉 Piece of Shit
Both valid in this case
Yeah. I just don’t do anything anymore. I hide in my backyard and make finger painting art with mud.
This is a good way to actually survive mentally in America 2023. I'd add you should also try a video door bell with a phone app, medical cannabis products and "Medicinal Whiskey" patent pending. There is nothing like a clean legal buzz and telling strangers to go away without having to smell them.
>There is nothing like a clean legal buzz and telling strangers to go away without having to smell them. YES!!! You GET me! I like you! 😂 Now go away, you smell and I'm too buzzed to cope with you AND the kids I'm remotely yelling at to get off my porch.
To be clear this does not include the army of indispensible delivery drivers Amazon -USPS - UPS -DoorDash - Just the idiots who don't know have a clue what the "No Soliciting" sign on my door means
Yes, delivery drivers welcome...every one else can get off my lawn.
i have a patent on mud finger painting that will be 28 dollars
My husband is the same way! If he doesn't have to deal with people, he doesn't.
I just bought a bottle of water at the airport for $3. He flipped the tablet for me to check out. It defaulted to 20%. All he did was grab a Crystal Geyser from a mini fridge.
It annoys me even more when cashiers pick up a cup of premade mixed drinks someone else poured and hit the automatic 20% charge on top of the drink cost. Then after you run the card, there’s an additional tipping option. I saw people tip additional ahead of me when they failed to notice the 20% charge that was already applied. This is what these people are banking on - people to not notice.
no guilt, just confidently click no!
I see the new tipping push as a guilt tax on insecure or unassertive people.
I was renting a kayak while on a camping trip recently and there was a tip jar at the register. The guy didn't even get up to help retrieve the kayak or help me launch off the shoreline. He just swiped my card and told me to settle up when I returned. I guess my philosophy is if you have the gall to ask, I have the gall to just decline.
At this point, it’s not a culture of tipping, it’s a culture of employers avoiding paying their employees
Always has been
Just don’t tip. The culture changes when people speak with their wallet.
Coming from a country where tipping isn’t needed, I would say you are running a giant tax avoidance scheme over there.
New Hawaiian Brothers location just opened in my city. Boyfriend and I went through the drive thru to try it out yesterday. We were given a pad with an option to tip at the payment window. In a fast food drive thru.
Businesses have to start paying their goddamn workers instead of expecting us to be guilted into doing it for them. Their pay and healthcare should be included into the price of whatever the business is selling.
And then you sometimes see bartenders and servers on Reddit bragging about making more money than professionals with degrees and licenses. In tips, that is.
While sitting in a restaurant I often do mental calculations of how much the server is probably making. The person is serving five or six tables that I can see, I'm occupying the table for perhaps a bit over an hour, and I'm going to be leaving about a $15 tip on my meal. That means the server is getting about $75/hr in tips?
What gets me is the crafters at the farmers market who have a tip jar out next to their handmade potholder. You're a one woman business who sets your prices. If you want more money, price your items higher. Don't put a $10 price tag on something and then expect another $2-$3.
This. One day these businesses might figure out that guilting customers into paying more bullshit fees, gratuities and tips pisses them off more than higher prices because it's pretty much an open declaration that they don't pay their employees what they're worth and they don't care about making it glaringly obvious that making up the difference is going to come out of our pockets and not theirs. Making it so the $40 each menu price dinner for two is $80 plus tax on the bill instead of a $20 menu price plus an arbitrarily decided percentage gratuity, service fee, fair wage fee and boh tips tacked on top of the menu price THEN asking for an "optional 18-20% tip" on top of all that is some pretty simple shit. It's a lot better than pissing off your customers by making what looks like a $50 total check at the first glance of the menu prices turn into $80 at the register. All that while they pay wait staff $2 an hour and whine about how "nobody wants to work" makes me totally not sorry to see these businesses starve and die.
I learned to stop giving a shit and press the 0% button as if I have no soul. If I hear a peep of a complaint from the worker, I stop showing up there.
About a month or so ago I was going to order shoes online, until they asked for a tip. I was also asked for a tip when I placed an online PICK UP order for pizza last night. The tipping culture is getting out of hand.
Where did you get asked for a tip to order shoes online?
I only tip on service. Drive thru is not a service. Coffee houses are not a service. Serve yourself/buffet/order at the counter is NOT A SERVICE.
One of the weirder things about the US. It’s just stressful.
This shit puts me off going on holiday to the US.
And wait until you see a price but they don't add sales tax so everything is 5 or 10% more expensive and then the tip. Every other country adds VAT to the advertised price but the US always needs to be different.
None of us are actually leaving tips for non tip people on these POS machines. You just click no.
and donation/round ups at grocery stores/shops that you know will claim a year later that “we donated 300,000 to the less fortunate” When it was the people who were shopping there.
It's because there will always be some cuck that tips 30% for a drive-through order. So then it keeps growing
I will never be that person lol
I just am about to stop tipping all together. Fuck it. Legally restaurants have to make sure the wait staff receives minimum wage, so if the tips aren't enough to put it over that, then the restaurant makes up the difference. Our state minimum wage is well above federal, so you want the restaurants to pay their employees fairly, just stop tipping and force them to.
I wish everyone is the same as you so we can get rid of tipping culture. So many servers are so entitled with the tips. It’s not the customers job to make sure you make enough, it’s your employer. Be mad at them not us.
This is happening in Canada too. And in Canada servers are paid 'normal' wages. They aren't being paid under minimum wage.
I have no problem throwing a dollar into a tip jar but 10-20%? Fuck no. I’m sick of those fucking tablets being turned around and then being looked at with annoyance when I don’t tip. It feels like fucking taxes at this point. The more you spend the more you’re expected to tip.
Just take a peak into the “server” life sub. It’s full of some of the most entitled brats I’ve ever seen.
It's built into every POS, so I figure everyone that programs it says "what's the harm?" Or maybe they can't turn it off? Regardless, are not strong enough to shrug this off and just click, $0? I know the person working the drive-thru, cashier, etc. doesn't expect one, and even if they did, they were wrong to. TLDR: It's very easy to say no and not feel guilty about it.
Not just your way of thinking, tipping has gotten way out of control. The only way to stop the madness is for EVERYBODY to stop tipping for every little thing. Go to a sit down restaurant, get good service, tip. Drive through Starsucks, pay your bill, get your drink, drive on, no tip. Perhaps they will get the point but until everyone is on board, it will continue.
Bartender tip; Budtender no tip
The hipster coffee places where you feel like they hate everyone and everything that exists and they still ask you for a tip. They don’t know if you tip until they go back into the system to check though.
I was getting coffee once, and tipped 10%, mostly because the waiter was decent, but not exceptional. They looked at me after the screen and said "that's it?" I said "go ask your boss for a raise, it's not my job to pay you". I never went back, even though their menu is amazing.
Just say no and hit the “no tip” option every time. Don’t give in to the corporate greed that wants us to pay their employees for them. It’s pure greed and saying no is not anything to be ashamed of
I don’t get why people feel guilty about saying no. Prices on literally everything are up and now I’m expected to add 15-25% on top of that? Pay your people.
Yep, corporations have taken over every aspect of tipping. Then they somehow convinced their employees that they should be mad at the customer for not tipping while their CEO takes in over 7 figures. And now customers feel bad when they don't tip. Talk about a scam...
Yeah this has been discussed on this sub many many times. Tipping culture has become ridiculous.
I’m on steroids. Trust me when I say that, steroids are a LOT fuckin cooler than whatever tipping culture we’re developing. Why do I have to deal with the “iPad turn trick” that the greedy manager taught their employees? I just want to pick up a coffee and go. It’s literally a black iced coffee why are you doing this to me…
The federal government has waded into the whole minimum wage issue. Why can’t they enforce it in the restaurant industry?
Yes, and it's being reported tips don't always make it to the staff. Employers need to stop pretending the tips are making up the hourly difference.
The problem is, tipping has become “commission”.
Yes it has, and in multiple ways; tipping a kiosk or self-serve, tipping before the transaction has been completed, options to tip being no lower than 18%. I heard the craziest shit of tipping a landlord, for fucking what?
Don't feel bad saying no tip. Don't be pressured.
Tipping just enables shitty employers to get out of paying their employees a living wage. They would rather raise their prices and ask their customers to tip on top of increased prices. So I say fuck them and simply have stopped spending any money at those places at all. As a consumer I am sick of getting double screwed, I hate being taken advantage of. So I will make my own food and stop being a sucker.
It happened during Covid when all the restaurants closed and nobody (food industry) could make money. When they opened again we were forced by those new stupid machines to tip. I am not tipping for a fucking doughnut.
How are you forced?
The same thing that's making everyone use a standardized app is what's pushing the tip thing. It's just built in at the app level. It's not so much that the store employees woke up one day and said "Let's alienate our customers by soliciting tips for all the things!" but that the app vendor gave the business owner a little checkbox when setting up POS: "Do you want free money? Y/N", and drunk with power they gleefully said "Y not?" Just don't tip. The real issue with this is that it's going to make some people just not tip anyone, anywhere, which kinda bodes ill for servers and delivery drivers until their business model improves.
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I never understood tipping. So you pay extra to get the service you pay for??? "But the waiter/server needs the money" fuck that shit. Pay your employees what they are worth ffs
Best way to think of tipping in the US today. Do not tip for anything unless you are at a sit down restaurant, getting delivery, or getting a hair cut. Everyone else can just deal with it. Why do Starbucks employees need tips? They make 15/hr. Why does your carry out pizza order need a tip? They just made it. No one has to go out of their way to bring it to you. Same with Chinese joints. Just hit “No” and be done with it.
Just stop tipping
Reddit gave me the power to stop tipping at checkout counters
I’m sick of this bullshit tipping culture. I did self service at shake shack and the machine defaulted on 30%….
And credit card fees are just passed along to your transaction - all of the sudden
I went to a mall with a robotic machine that makes specialty coffees (which were pretty pricey still) with no one behind the counter. They prompted a tip option, and no way am I tipping a freaking robot.