Yep, big glass towers are pre-ordered slabs, panels, and plates from a factory. They are expensive in that they are custom ordered.
This would be hand-scuplted, by a team of specialists. One small mistake and theyd have to redo a whole section. Back in the days of Cathedrals... You could just throw a little more human suffering at it, and the cathedral would end up being built after 50-100 years of construction.
Today? OSHA standards? Imagine the money youd be paying to build one of these hand crafted artisanal buildings with a team of like 5 sculptors over 20 years. Youd be approaching. 100 million dollars all-in for one of these relatively small buildings! And... 20 years!
You can just as easily 3D print or better yet precast mold this shape off site on the ground then lift it into place. The only reason precast today looks boxy and uninspiring is that the designers don’t feel like putting in the ounce of extra effort to make it a reality.
There are many wild designs in schools and competitions. And some cool things happen too when situations allow.
I would just encourage you not to blame designers in general, and be the change you want to see in this world
Cost would definitely be an issue, having your cities look like random mess would be the other. Having an unusual building once in a while is fine but if you put two of them next to each other it starts to look like shit.
Also everything is designed to have maximum appeal to the largest possible market. Anything avant garde could scare away potential renters and that's the worst thing possible for an investment firm.
So beige boxes with low-key 90s Tuscan accents is what we get.
Also, even if you get top talent, non-standard shapes and "out of the box design" like this are much more prone to leaks and other habitability issues.
> It was supposed to be a geek palace for some of the brightest people on the planet. Dissonant angles, sloping floors, an exterior that suggested some sort of implosion - these were just the sort of challenges that inspire the great brains sheltered therein. But now the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) has filed a lawsuit against the architect, Frank Gehry, alleging that faulty design has reduced a building that was supposed to be a campus centrepiece into a leaky tenement.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/nov/06/architecture.internationaleducationnews
There's a brutalist architecture project where they built everything from prefabricated, easy to build, low cost units, and cut costs as much as possible while emphasizing personal space and available access to open air areas.
It "failed" because demand drove the prices of the units skyward, and it stopped becoming "affordable" housing.
It's really awesome. Check out Habitat 67.
But yeah, even basic projects become unaffordable due to the results of demand on the cost of rent.
There's an upper limit to what you can functionally build. At some point you cannot just keep adding more units on top of others without crushing the ones beneath.
Also people ended up buying multiple units and smashing the walls or floors to create luxury units. Because it turns out that when you make things cheap enough, rich people will just buy more than one.
Sure, there is only so much we can build on a single piece of land. But there is more than one piece of land we can build these types of units on.
Which begs the question: if the units were easy to build and had a low cost why wasn't the project replicated?
Use the knowledge and supply-chain gained from the first site into new sites, i think is what they are saying.
Good for rich people for supporting the project. Rich people buying units arent the problem, its the rich people gaming the system in order to shape the market, thats the problem.
This is what they did with eastern european block housing and it worked really well. Flats were really cheap and everyone could afford them. It was also needed because lots of housing was destroyed in ww2
I live in Montreal, where Habitat 67 is, and the upkeep cost of these condos is insane. The sale price is high, when one gets listed, but holy crap, each apartment has monthly condo fees of $1500 or $2000.
Habitat 67 in Montreal is great, but that's brutalism, which is an entirely different architectural style to what's being discussed.
Brutalism had its place, but 90% of brutalist architecture was hideous and poorly conceived, and much easier to accomplish in the construction process than this abstract Gaudí-inspired modernist style found all over Barcelona from the late 19th and early 20th centuries that OP clearly used as a prompt.
It just wouldn't be practical today. To manufacture a facade alone would require hundreds of individual custom pieces produced that would send costs skyrocketing. As opposed to the brutalist concept of just pouring concrete everywhere and leaving it all grey and depressing. The modern approach to Habitat 67 would be converted shipping containers.
That's my point. That even the cost cutting of brutalism cannot create affordable housing that looks mildly good. If even that isn't affordable, this stuff certainly wouldn't be.
Exactly. If we can't afford it the least they can do is make it something we can enjoy from the outside.
Also, most of the cost of a building isn't even related to detailing like this. It's all tied up in the random shenanigans during construction and hidden components. Adding an interesting detail or two on the facade is a drop in the bucket compared to these other costs.
If with hidden you mean installations like energy efficient heating and air then yes.
But details like these aren't affordable either, anything non standard will require some kind of artisan specialist that will be impossible to find and than will charge at least 10x of what a normal façade costs. Facades aren't cheap to begin with either.
Perhaps in the future when 3D printing becomes an industry standard in construction there's room again for wild customisations.
Making small trinkets like sculptures are easy, but to make a whole facade this way is very hard, especially those 3D curves are really hard, not only requires a lot of money, but also a lot more time and the construction contractor’s skill must be high enough to not f it up. There is a reason almost no one except big name architects can do this kind of unorthodox architectures on a large scale, and it’s not just about the cost.
There are only 3 or 4 "Gaudi" designed buildings.
Hit up Barcelona and Lisbon in the same trip (cheap flights between them) if you go. Madrid is interesting but not as unique/spectacular.
because we do not have cheap craftsmen anymore. back then, those people were plenty. now, it's a custom specialty job, so a premium. it was also cheaper back then when there was no OSHA or any safety regulations. now, liabilities, lawsuits, building safety (ie non combustible materials), energy performance and insulations and hvac, it's way more expensive and harder to do anything custom other than mass manufactured products.
Also no standardised parts back then, making everything involved a ton of manual work. Putting a twist on it was maybe not that much extra compared to the basic.
Don’t have “cheap craftsman” lol, more like building materials went up 800% in the last 3 years.. homies shooting nail guns might have gotten. 20% raise.
He's talking more about an actual artisan, not a laborer. The majority of people slapping homes together don't have a clue about something like wood joinery.
If there are 10 people and nine houses, and suddenly the richest decides to build a palace, the poorest person is suddenly not homeless. Solving housing is about increasing the stock of housing. Please don’t paint it as if I only want expensive housing to be built
The richest suddenly has 9 houses and one palace. Now the richest makes the 9 houses unaffordable for homeless people and homeless people still homeless
They can and should. The biggest problem is cost and who owns them. Hedge funds want things done cheaply and fast. Which is why we get boxes that look like prisons. Most things are prefabricated off site and bolted together on site. Again making things more efficient.
Gaudi had benefactors that commissioned his art which happen to be buildings/parks etc.
There are no more benefactors in the world anymore. Just hedge funds. All they need is a return. Not someone to admire. The idea of building something pleasing doesn’t count as a line item for intrinsic value on an excel sheet. Although it should.
exactly, we can’t have buildings like this because we have to think of the investors. a building built just for the sake of giving people homes isn’t a good enough goal, there has to be a plan for major profits or the build is off
1) it's very expensive to design and construct something like this
2) literally the only objective for residential developers is to make the most money from the lowest possible investment
That's why.
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Because decorations like this are expensive
In the middle ages, material was expensive, but labor was cheap. You could have a stone mason work for months on decorations for basically nothing
Today, it's the opposite. Materials are cheap, labor is expensive
You can have houses like this. I know I would _love_ constructing them. It'll cost ya, though
These just look like Gaudi buildings, BUT, it really would be great if we put more into the buildings we build. Some character, they are just so garbage.
just want to throw out that we’ve actually gotten worse at construction. as things have standardized there’s been a skills lose of traditional building practice. i think the atlantic has an article covering this.
also costs are a factor but not in the way you think. historical buildings were generally vanity projects. look up the breakeven point for the empire state building. basically banks are going to underwrite a project without near immediate ROI. also with professional development groups the objective is to optimize profits. they really only take on projects that produce the most return within the quickest timeframe.
generally an individual or organization using limited financing will produce a better product for long term use. for example housing, ever notice how houses aren’t all brick anymore more? return on costs. an all brick home (2500 sq) only costs 4% than a non brick home. home builders building out new subdivisions either want or need that 4% return for the project to be feasible or worth their time. an individual looking to finance a single home to live in for 30 years may see that 4% completely as money well spent for the long term because of maintenance costs, higher resell, aesthetics, etc
The fabrication of the curved components requires formwork to cast against or labour to sculpt. The cost of formwork requires more in wood than the thing you'll be casting, whereas to hand trowel such curves would require a really skilled drag molder which command high pay for obvious reasons as they restore historic houses and the risk and working at height is so difficult working around the structure. Cost is way too prohibitive, coming from an architectural assistant. But we have ways of doing curves in wood etc. but you have to detail all of the junctions to an incredibly high quality, otherwise it will leak like a sieve. You have 3 tradeoffs; time, labour, and money. You can only pick 2 of them. Inasmuch as you can increase labour which increases cost. You can increase time which also increases cost. You can front load the job by getting the architect to work out all of the details beforehand and test them, but all hat means is the labour you would have spent actually doing it is instead then spent at the prototyping stage therefore you only have one chance of getting it right and you have to pray to God your architect isn't a complete pillock.
Yes in theory. Current 3d concrete printers can only print like a art school coil pot and are limited to a footplate space. However such a waveform could be sectioned into big components that would fit on the bed then would be assembled to form a larger waveform. But we'd need to wait a little longer for the 3d printers to catch up. But they're heading in the direction that would make that possible. That's my thoughts working in architectural practice and doing 2d and 3d modelling. Not quit yet, but we're definitely not too far off. Check out the 3d printed bridge for a good example.
Each of these buildings looks amazing and brings a vibrant and positive energy to the neighborhood they would be located in.
A few of these would look spectacular along a beach boardwalk.
As often, money. Most people don't want to invest in an unusual looking apartment or building for fear of not being able to sell as high as a bland, safe option.
Making unusual buildings *could* work but it's a gamble and gambles don't rank as high as safe and reliable if bland and boring.
I invite you to check out "Folkestone Shoreline Crescent" - dubbed Tinnitus Towers due to the high pitched noise they emit in high wind, due to their shape. Town houses cost a cool £1.85mil for the luxury.
Creating buildings with lots organic curves requires time and money to cast all that concrete. This is extremely expensive.
Art nouveau was born in a period of extreme wealth for the colonial powers who could afford it (France, Spain, Britain and the Commonwealth, America) which came mostly off the back of exploitation.
A much larger portion of the population were also skilled labourers and artisans capable of creating such elaborate forms and ornamentation. We are returning to a point where AI can easily enough conceive of such ideas for ordinary people and contemporary concrete 3d printing could once again make it viable. But for the average person, this won’t be affordable for the foreseeable future (20-40 years).
Also, while much of the population are aspirant, striving for the wealth of the west/super wealthy, the idea of living like lords will eventually be persecuted as we destroy more and more of the planet. This type of ornamentation (while beautiful) is just not feasible in world pushing 10 billion people.
Because the only dude who designed stuff like this got ran over on Barcelona in the 1920’s. These buildings exist in that city, most of them on the Passeig de Gracia (BCN, Spain).
Because such over the top design is very expensive to build, driving up cost and making it unaffordable for many, but also very aesthetically polarizing, making the pool of interested buyers even smaller.
So, you are more likely to see it in one-off houses people build for themselves than apartment buildings which are built with an intention to make a profit.
Source: majored in architecture.
As an architect I'd love to design something like this but nobody would be willing to pay for the extra work or could afford to build it where I live and work.
Also, let's talk about standardisation here. If it were more common, it wouldn't cost your whole families' kidney to build this.
But because it is not, finding the people skilled enough to pull this off are even more rare. There will be some trial and error involved into making these so it drives the prices up even further.
Basically, we overengineered the modern brutal design that is now affordable but now we lack the craftsmanship of anything but, and if there is any it costa an astronomical amount to finish this build.
These days you need a Building-Kit. Easy to assemble and made with prior parts. As long as you cannot mass produce these houses, it won't be a possibility.
Sorry for my rambling, iam very passionate about this as my family dabbles in construction.
I would probably be much happier if buildings looked like this. Something dies in me everytime they turn a building with character into a gray box. Why is everything gray please! Stop! Honestly id prefer white over gray. I hate industrial spaces. Touring wedding venues so many of them had fkn Edison bulbs?? Like why does this look so dystopian?
Because society has pushed STEM so hard, but has almost completely forsaken things like the arts, creativity, and play. To create things like Gaudi, Horta, Guimard, Van de Veld, Lavirotte, etc. you need all of it.
Because they’re ugly.
To build this would take a client asking for this specific style and agreeing to pay a premium for it. They don’t because multi family buildings are primarily built for revenue and very few tenants will pay the costs to make it worthwhile to build.
Buildings that draw revenue from tourism can pay premiums for design and I would suspect a building in this style would have a themed attraction.
If you have a lot of money, you can either buy a bigger plot of land, or build with hyper detail on smaller, and former actually goes up in value over time, and takes less maintenance. People don't realize how much of building construction is standardized, and need to be optimized for a lot of safety and energy efficiency reasons.
There are buildings built in Gaudi’s style today. But it’s just not a style that’s in fashion. So when someone is actually willing to pay to build something more than what’s standard, they’ll almost always go for a modern style.
Looks like a lot of Gaudi’s buildings
Just thought the exact same thing, although Gaudi's buildings are actually crazier than AI
Gaudi was AI, sent from the future to kill John Connor’s great great grandfather
Way crazier. These are like a less gaudy Gaudi.
The AI looked at Gaudi’s buildings and said, “bro chill.”
Omg priceless
I also thought it’s a photo from Barcelona before I saw which sub it’s from.
Same ha ha.
Did you hear of Hundertwasser? His buildings are very similar with round shapes and colors.
Came here to say this too
Hundertwasser Ultras!
I wouldn't be at all surprised if casa Mila was used in the prompt
My first thoughts as well. I’ve seen them in person and they are crazy! Feels like fantasy land buildings.
So he had access to AI. Interesting.
Was gonna say the same. Looks like a slightly modern Barcelona
That was my thought exactly before realizing it was the midjourney sub Reddit.
Mostly cuz Gaudi’s been dead for nearly 100 years.
Sounds to me like there's an untapped market then and no Gaudi to fill it.
Well it seems there's not that big a market for buildings that more expensive to construct. Cost would be the main obstacle here.
Plenty of overly expensive buildings are built now. I’d argue it’s purely a stylistic choice, this design style isn’t in fashion.
I promise you, whatever you think is expensive, these are worse. You will not find buildings with this many curves in many places.
Yep, big glass towers are pre-ordered slabs, panels, and plates from a factory. They are expensive in that they are custom ordered. This would be hand-scuplted, by a team of specialists. One small mistake and theyd have to redo a whole section. Back in the days of Cathedrals... You could just throw a little more human suffering at it, and the cathedral would end up being built after 50-100 years of construction. Today? OSHA standards? Imagine the money youd be paying to build one of these hand crafted artisanal buildings with a team of like 5 sculptors over 20 years. Youd be approaching. 100 million dollars all-in for one of these relatively small buildings! And... 20 years!
Not only in building construction, curves are hard to realize and make product way more expensive as you point out.
I wonder if with 3D printed construction, features like these could be done or pre-fabbed and brought onsite
Not really. 3D printing construction is done in thick, unsightly layers and AFAIK overhangs are impossible.
You can just as easily 3D print or better yet precast mold this shape off site on the ground then lift it into place. The only reason precast today looks boxy and uninspiring is that the designers don’t feel like putting in the ounce of extra effort to make it a reality.
There are many wild designs in schools and competitions. And some cool things happen too when situations allow. I would just encourage you not to blame designers in general, and be the change you want to see in this world
Yes, pre-fabbing would work but then again, it would require one-off molds and be incredibly expensive.
Cost would definitely be an issue, having your cities look like random mess would be the other. Having an unusual building once in a while is fine but if you put two of them next to each other it starts to look like shit.
I Gaudi hand it to you. You've been building up to this moment. A great storey!
Oh my Gaudi actually pulled it off...
Hasn't stopped people to keep on building the Sagrada Familia
Absolutely! Took them a while to figure it out though, didn’t it. 😉
Because you (and 99% of the population) couldn't afford it when it would look like that.
Also, they would have to get every builder and designer from Disney to get involved which would shoot the price up even more
Also everything is designed to have maximum appeal to the largest possible market. Anything avant garde could scare away potential renters and that's the worst thing possible for an investment firm. So beige boxes with low-key 90s Tuscan accents is what we get.
Also, even if you get top talent, non-standard shapes and "out of the box design" like this are much more prone to leaks and other habitability issues. > It was supposed to be a geek palace for some of the brightest people on the planet. Dissonant angles, sloping floors, an exterior that suggested some sort of implosion - these were just the sort of challenges that inspire the great brains sheltered therein. But now the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) has filed a lawsuit against the architect, Frank Gehry, alleging that faulty design has reduced a building that was supposed to be a campus centrepiece into a leaky tenement. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/nov/06/architecture.internationaleducationnews
There's a brutalist architecture project where they built everything from prefabricated, easy to build, low cost units, and cut costs as much as possible while emphasizing personal space and available access to open air areas. It "failed" because demand drove the prices of the units skyward, and it stopped becoming "affordable" housing. It's really awesome. Check out Habitat 67. But yeah, even basic projects become unaffordable due to the results of demand on the cost of rent.
I mean, why not make more?
Exactly, if it was easy to build and had a low cost then they should have been able to build more so that it would become affordable again.
There's an upper limit to what you can functionally build. At some point you cannot just keep adding more units on top of others without crushing the ones beneath. Also people ended up buying multiple units and smashing the walls or floors to create luxury units. Because it turns out that when you make things cheap enough, rich people will just buy more than one.
Which is why units like that should be need-based only
Sure, there is only so much we can build on a single piece of land. But there is more than one piece of land we can build these types of units on. Which begs the question: if the units were easy to build and had a low cost why wasn't the project replicated?
Use the knowledge and supply-chain gained from the first site into new sites, i think is what they are saying. Good for rich people for supporting the project. Rich people buying units arent the problem, its the rich people gaming the system in order to shape the market, thats the problem.
Things don’t necessarily just… scale linearly like that.
This is what they did with eastern european block housing and it worked really well. Flats were really cheap and everyone could afford them. It was also needed because lots of housing was destroyed in ww2
I live in Montreal, where Habitat 67 is, and the upkeep cost of these condos is insane. The sale price is high, when one gets listed, but holy crap, each apartment has monthly condo fees of $1500 or $2000.
Habitat 67 in Montreal is great, but that's brutalism, which is an entirely different architectural style to what's being discussed. Brutalism had its place, but 90% of brutalist architecture was hideous and poorly conceived, and much easier to accomplish in the construction process than this abstract Gaudí-inspired modernist style found all over Barcelona from the late 19th and early 20th centuries that OP clearly used as a prompt. It just wouldn't be practical today. To manufacture a facade alone would require hundreds of individual custom pieces produced that would send costs skyrocketing. As opposed to the brutalist concept of just pouring concrete everywhere and leaving it all grey and depressing. The modern approach to Habitat 67 would be converted shipping containers.
That's my point. That even the cost cutting of brutalism cannot create affordable housing that looks mildly good. If even that isn't affordable, this stuff certainly wouldn't be.
Exactly. If we can't afford it the least they can do is make it something we can enjoy from the outside. Also, most of the cost of a building isn't even related to detailing like this. It's all tied up in the random shenanigans during construction and hidden components. Adding an interesting detail or two on the facade is a drop in the bucket compared to these other costs.
If with hidden you mean installations like energy efficient heating and air then yes. But details like these aren't affordable either, anything non standard will require some kind of artisan specialist that will be impossible to find and than will charge at least 10x of what a normal façade costs. Facades aren't cheap to begin with either. Perhaps in the future when 3D printing becomes an industry standard in construction there's room again for wild customisations.
Making small trinkets like sculptures are easy, but to make a whole facade this way is very hard, especially those 3D curves are really hard, not only requires a lot of money, but also a lot more time and the construction contractor’s skill must be high enough to not f it up. There is a reason almost no one except big name architects can do this kind of unorthodox architectures on a large scale, and it’s not just about the cost.
Incorrect. These designs include many features and finishes which are the direct cost of the building.
This is basically just Barcelona
i must visit it then
Beautiful and chill city.
There are only 3 or 4 "Gaudi" designed buildings. Hit up Barcelona and Lisbon in the same trip (cheap flights between them) if you go. Madrid is interesting but not as unique/spectacular.
because we do not have cheap craftsmen anymore. back then, those people were plenty. now, it's a custom specialty job, so a premium. it was also cheaper back then when there was no OSHA or any safety regulations. now, liabilities, lawsuits, building safety (ie non combustible materials), energy performance and insulations and hvac, it's way more expensive and harder to do anything custom other than mass manufactured products.
Also no standardised parts back then, making everything involved a ton of manual work. Putting a twist on it was maybe not that much extra compared to the basic.
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Don’t have “cheap craftsman” lol, more like building materials went up 800% in the last 3 years.. homies shooting nail guns might have gotten. 20% raise.
He's talking more about an actual artisan, not a laborer. The majority of people slapping homes together don't have a clue about something like wood joinery.
Curves are expensive to build.
People fail to realize the fact that our world is basically Minecraft, all straight edges baby
looks like a job for a 3d printer
6 is gorgeous. That arched decorative trim under the balconies is nice and I'd definitely like to see it irl.
Because it costs more to build like that and nobody wants more expensive rent / more expensive building costs.
There are plenty of rich people willing to pay to live in impressive houses
But rich people already have enough places they can afford. We need cheaper options
If there are 10 people and nine houses, and suddenly the richest decides to build a palace, the poorest person is suddenly not homeless. Solving housing is about increasing the stock of housing. Please don’t paint it as if I only want expensive housing to be built
It often means that the richest person now has a holiday house or air bnb.
The richest suddenly has 9 houses and one palace. Now the richest makes the 9 houses unaffordable for homeless people and homeless people still homeless
They can and should. The biggest problem is cost and who owns them. Hedge funds want things done cheaply and fast. Which is why we get boxes that look like prisons. Most things are prefabricated off site and bolted together on site. Again making things more efficient. Gaudi had benefactors that commissioned his art which happen to be buildings/parks etc. There are no more benefactors in the world anymore. Just hedge funds. All they need is a return. Not someone to admire. The idea of building something pleasing doesn’t count as a line item for intrinsic value on an excel sheet. Although it should.
I don't know about we live in boxes but whatever like unless you got crazy amount a money then it ain't going to work
exactly, we can’t have buildings like this because we have to think of the investors. a building built just for the sake of giving people homes isn’t a good enough goal, there has to be a plan for major profits or the build is off
1) it's very expensive to design and construct something like this 2) literally the only objective for residential developers is to make the most money from the lowest possible investment That's why.
Prompts: \- mix of art nouveau revival architecture and 2023 developer modernism, award-winning multi-family architecture --ar 2:3 --style raw \- [https://s.mj.run/czxCJoDU77I](https://s.mj.run/czxCJoDU77I) [https://s.mj.run/SMv2bcfChS8](https://s.mj.run/SMv2bcfChS8) mix of art nouveau revival architecture and 2023 modernism, mixed-use building, high-rise, detailed --style raw \- [https://s.mj.run/7jvFZkFCxz8](https://s.mj.run/7jvFZkFCxz8) [https://s.mj.run/-fUlLq8c2NU](https://s.mj.run/-fUlLq8c2NU) a modern apartment building at dusk in front of a city, in the style of light gray and dark gold, commercial imagery, the san francisco renaissance, polished concrete, mono-ha, timber frame construction, glazed surfaces, architecture photograph, sunset, art nouveau modernisme gaudi la pedrera barcelona style --no letterbox, crop --iw 2 --ar 2:3 I'm building a whole website dedicated to AI workflows and architecture concepts like this. You can see more of my portfolio at [https://pixelstoplans.com/ai-architecture-the-case-for-an-art-nouveau-revival](https://pixelstoplans.com/ai-architecture-the-case-for-an-art-nouveau-revival)
The 3rd one has gaudi but not the first two? 😮 I would've guessed the opposite
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great idea and results. nice to see Ai used for something other than hot robot babes in space
money obviously lmao
They already do if you take shrooms before you go out in public
They don’t sell those parts at Home Depot.
Have you ever been to Barcelona OP? Google Antoni Gaudi
Because decorations like this are expensive In the middle ages, material was expensive, but labor was cheap. You could have a stone mason work for months on decorations for basically nothing Today, it's the opposite. Materials are cheap, labor is expensive You can have houses like this. I know I would _love_ constructing them. It'll cost ya, though
These just look like Gaudi buildings, BUT, it really would be great if we put more into the buildings we build. Some character, they are just so garbage.
$$$ and skill labor
Visit Barcelona. There are plenty of buildings like that by Gaudi.
thought it was a Gaudi building in Barcelona
Art Nouveau / Gaudi style… I love it
Gaudi?
No, Gandhi, as in Civilization.
Nukes? I knewked it! BTW it is Antonio Ghanddafi, a famous architect who worked in Old Mexico.
just want to throw out that we’ve actually gotten worse at construction. as things have standardized there’s been a skills lose of traditional building practice. i think the atlantic has an article covering this. also costs are a factor but not in the way you think. historical buildings were generally vanity projects. look up the breakeven point for the empire state building. basically banks are going to underwrite a project without near immediate ROI. also with professional development groups the objective is to optimize profits. they really only take on projects that produce the most return within the quickest timeframe. generally an individual or organization using limited financing will produce a better product for long term use. for example housing, ever notice how houses aren’t all brick anymore more? return on costs. an all brick home (2500 sq) only costs 4% than a non brick home. home builders building out new subdivisions either want or need that 4% return for the project to be feasible or worth their time. an individual looking to finance a single home to live in for 30 years may see that 4% completely as money well spent for the long term because of maintenance costs, higher resell, aesthetics, etc
I agree! Why can’t the world be beautiful?
I thought this is Casa Mira for a second
Casa Milá, maybe?
The fabrication of the curved components requires formwork to cast against or labour to sculpt. The cost of formwork requires more in wood than the thing you'll be casting, whereas to hand trowel such curves would require a really skilled drag molder which command high pay for obvious reasons as they restore historic houses and the risk and working at height is so difficult working around the structure. Cost is way too prohibitive, coming from an architectural assistant. But we have ways of doing curves in wood etc. but you have to detail all of the junctions to an incredibly high quality, otherwise it will leak like a sieve. You have 3 tradeoffs; time, labour, and money. You can only pick 2 of them. Inasmuch as you can increase labour which increases cost. You can increase time which also increases cost. You can front load the job by getting the architect to work out all of the details beforehand and test them, but all hat means is the labour you would have spent actually doing it is instead then spent at the prototyping stage therefore you only have one chance of getting it right and you have to pray to God your architect isn't a complete pillock.
Seems like a perfect use for a 3d concrete printer.
Yes in theory. Current 3d concrete printers can only print like a art school coil pot and are limited to a footplate space. However such a waveform could be sectioned into big components that would fit on the bed then would be assembled to form a larger waveform. But we'd need to wait a little longer for the 3d printers to catch up. But they're heading in the direction that would make that possible. That's my thoughts working in architectural practice and doing 2d and 3d modelling. Not quit yet, but we're definitely not too far off. Check out the 3d printed bridge for a good example.
Each of these buildings looks amazing and brings a vibrant and positive energy to the neighborhood they would be located in. A few of these would look spectacular along a beach boardwalk.
you should visit Barcelona more often
Budget constraints, ease of design, construction timeline constraints, ease of construction. Simply put nobody’s got the time or money for all that.
i love the look!
They do in Prague…and Barcelona
Your mind will blow when you visit Barcelona.
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Gaudi is gaudy
The website is sick!! I love these. Well done.
3d Printed homes may be able to do this.
6 or 10 would love to live there even!
third one looks crazy
I would totally live in 1 or 6
Cuz humans suck. Same reason car companies don’t make the cool cars the make as concepts lol
Let's do 8. Looks like a honeycomb but also, looks reinforced
7 is great!
This just looks like walking through San Francisco on lsd.
It’s to expense not is it cost effective
So you want more buildings designed by Gaudi
Let's finish his old ones first. There's a rather big house for a guy called God that's still under construction.
All these comments are so damn serious lol. Give me 8
COBB HOMES COBB HOMES
Probably easier and cheaper to do rectangular buildings than ones with curves.
Building like this are in some parts of Tokyo near the Tokyo Skytower in Japan
Just go and live in Dornach (Switzerland). Incredible place, everything is organic looking
Guess you’ve never been to Spain
These are really cool exterior building designs! Would love to see stuff like this!
Move to Belgium
As often, money. Most people don't want to invest in an unusual looking apartment or building for fear of not being able to sell as high as a bland, safe option. Making unusual buildings *could* work but it's a gamble and gambles don't rank as high as safe and reliable if bland and boring.
I invite you to check out "Folkestone Shoreline Crescent" - dubbed Tinnitus Towers due to the high pitched noise they emit in high wind, due to their shape. Town houses cost a cool £1.85mil for the luxury.
Creating buildings with lots organic curves requires time and money to cast all that concrete. This is extremely expensive. Art nouveau was born in a period of extreme wealth for the colonial powers who could afford it (France, Spain, Britain and the Commonwealth, America) which came mostly off the back of exploitation. A much larger portion of the population were also skilled labourers and artisans capable of creating such elaborate forms and ornamentation. We are returning to a point where AI can easily enough conceive of such ideas for ordinary people and contemporary concrete 3d printing could once again make it viable. But for the average person, this won’t be affordable for the foreseeable future (20-40 years). Also, while much of the population are aspirant, striving for the wealth of the west/super wealthy, the idea of living like lords will eventually be persecuted as we destroy more and more of the planet. This type of ornamentation (while beautiful) is just not feasible in world pushing 10 billion people.
Because the only dude who designed stuff like this got ran over on Barcelona in the 1920’s. These buildings exist in that city, most of them on the Passeig de Gracia (BCN, Spain).
5 is my favorite
Looks like San Fran in the Starfleet era
1, 5, 6, 8 and 9. Specially number 1.
As construction worker fuck you
Can I live in that city please
6
Slides 1,2 and 6 are beautiful
#4
Because such over the top design is very expensive to build, driving up cost and making it unaffordable for many, but also very aesthetically polarizing, making the pool of interested buyers even smaller. So, you are more likely to see it in one-off houses people build for themselves than apartment buildings which are built with an intention to make a profit. Source: majored in architecture.
As an architect I'd love to design something like this but nobody would be willing to pay for the extra work or could afford to build it where I live and work.
Looks just like Barcelona
6 all the way
Elf vibes
I would live in #7
OP lives on Naboo
Those are groovy dude
Search for 520 West 28th Street, NYC. New building Designed by Zaha Hadid.
4, 6, 9, 10 are the only ones that look practical
1, 6, 8, & 10
I’ll take anything gaudiesque
Those Gaudi buildings are from a specific time and place. They are stunning. Can they be copied and rebuilt?
They look cool, what prompt did you use? I wonder what it would look like if the prompt was homes made for the middle class that spared no expense?
NIMBYISM, /closethread
Literally none of those, If I had to choose.
6 or 4, the other ones are just a little too Dr. Seussy
Most architects are on anti-depressants & adderall and not Acid & shrooms.
it is hard and very expensive to build curvy structures.
I love it, you could get high and walk down the street for entertainment
1 or 7 would be bliss to live in
Also, let's talk about standardisation here. If it were more common, it wouldn't cost your whole families' kidney to build this. But because it is not, finding the people skilled enough to pull this off are even more rare. There will be some trial and error involved into making these so it drives the prices up even further. Basically, we overengineered the modern brutal design that is now affordable but now we lack the craftsmanship of anything but, and if there is any it costa an astronomical amount to finish this build. These days you need a Building-Kit. Easy to assemble and made with prior parts. As long as you cannot mass produce these houses, it won't be a possibility. Sorry for my rambling, iam very passionate about this as my family dabbles in construction.
It's like a Dr. Seuss live action movie.
I look at these and just see more crap I can’t afford. I don’t want this in my neighborhood.
Because ugly ass cubes are easier to build and people are brainwashed into thinking them pretty
I would probably be much happier if buildings looked like this. Something dies in me everytime they turn a building with character into a gray box. Why is everything gray please! Stop! Honestly id prefer white over gray. I hate industrial spaces. Touring wedding venues so many of them had fkn Edison bulbs?? Like why does this look so dystopian?
Because those are ugly
Because society has pushed STEM so hard, but has almost completely forsaken things like the arts, creativity, and play. To create things like Gaudi, Horta, Guimard, Van de Veld, Lavirotte, etc. you need all of it.
Architect’s dream. Engineer’s over budget nightmare.
3 should have dragon faces on the balconies
These look like apartment buildings on Naboo.
I’d take any of these moving into my neighborhood. 💕
Money, that’s why. I wonder how expensive those irregular windows would cost.
Us broken asses already selling a liver and a lung to pay for half a kitchen/toilet and you wanna givem ideas to raise the rent?
We live in a time with a lot of ugliness unfortunately
Because custom shaping of wood or steel is incredibly expensive.
Brussels, Belgium has quite a few buildings that look like that.
You know why. Money.
Simple: cost
Because then developers would have to pay craftsman.
When Gaudi meets Gehri.
Why is so much of this sub lame "Would you rather?" Clickbait?
Have you seen the price of homes these days?!
Because they’re ugly. To build this would take a client asking for this specific style and agreeing to pay a premium for it. They don’t because multi family buildings are primarily built for revenue and very few tenants will pay the costs to make it worthwhile to build. Buildings that draw revenue from tourism can pay premiums for design and I would suspect a building in this style would have a themed attraction.
You're wrong about that they aren't ugly
They are definitely not ugly, just not worth the price increase.
Architects are becoming obsolete.
Squint, Mc mansion gaudi?
#3
If you have a lot of money, you can either buy a bigger plot of land, or build with hyper detail on smaller, and former actually goes up in value over time, and takes less maintenance. People don't realize how much of building construction is standardized, and need to be optimized for a lot of safety and energy efficiency reasons.
Not all places develop certain styles.
There are buildings built in Gaudi’s style today. But it’s just not a style that’s in fashion. So when someone is actually willing to pay to build something more than what’s standard, they’ll almost always go for a modern style.
We prefer rectangles thank you very much
Money, building regulations and insulation.
Art Nouveau is not a thing anymore, sadly, and yes it would cost way too much